HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-0929; CWIC2To: CCC Plan Special Committee
From: CWIC2
Date: September 30, 2008
Re: Part 3
Land Classification Map, page 45. Suburban Residential is inappropriate in Carmel West at:
1. Land south of 116th between Michigan Rd & Shelborne Rd. Proposed as Suburban
Residential, with density between 2.0 to 4.9 two subdivisions:
a. Includes homes with acreage as well as two subdivisions with very low
densities—Brandywine (0.61 u/a) and Woodhaven (0.77 u/a). Each was built
when lots were required to be a minimum of 1 acre and the expectation was 1
acre lots for the area. The expectation for large lots was reinforced with the
2020 Comp Plan.
b. Directly east of Brandywine is Bridleborne at a density of 0.40 u/a and
English Oaks with 1.26 u/a. To the south is a church and then a fire station
on the corner. While these uses are different from the surrounding
developments, their abundance of green space and low intensity of use is
much more compatible than a subdivision with a 4.9 density.
c. The highest density in the entire quadrant is Weston at 2.14, barely over the
Suburban Residential category. But that is misleading: Weston has several
sections, each with very different densities. As part of its approval under the
1st Cluster Ordinance, it was required to “transition” its density, lowering the
u/a as it went eastward. Weston Village, the section farthest west, abuts the
commercial area. It is the densest section, above 2.14. Weston Park, the
section between Weston Village and Brandywine, is less dense with houses
abutting Brandywine on 1/3 acre lots. North of Brandywine is Weston Ridge,
with ½ acre lots. It is appropriate to include the section of Weston closest to
the commercial area in Suburban Residential, but not appropriate to include
the rest of this quadrant. This quadrant should be divided into different
zoning classifications that more appropriately fit what currently exists.
(Marilyn: “I have a personal stake in this. I live in Brandywine on a 1 acre
lot. I would never have bought and built in an area zoned for even a 2.0 u/a.”)
d. Between 96th and 106th west of Shelborne are single family estate lots abutting
106th St. and two subdivisions with densities of 1.76 and 2.13. An argument
could perhaps be made that this section is more appropriately zoned Low
Intensity Suburban Residential, with a density of 1.0 to 1.9. That is more
compatible with the Estate Residential category to its east.
2. West of Towne Road abutting the Village of WestClay is the Fortune Property, now
platted as Trillium at a density of 1.76. The approved density clearly fits the Low
Intensity Suburban Residential category. Why isn’t it labeled as such? The ground is
still bare so this category could easily result in Adams & Marshall vacating that
approved plan and returning with a new plan at 4.9 u/a that would then legally have to
be approved. This classification violates the promises of containing the VWC’s
density within its property and no more transitioning. City Council upheld this
promise when they approved the project only after lowering the density to 1.76. This
is just completely inappropriate.
3. Northwest corner of Towne Road & 131st (Guerrero Property). We’ve had this fight
before—you know the issues. As part of its approval, the VWC was promised to be
the exception in the area and was promised to be contained. Zoning this as Suburban
Residential violates the promises and should not be done.
4. East side of Towne Rd from about 136th to 141st. Every surrounding subdivision has
a density of less than 1.42 with an average of 1.33. Suburban Residential would
almost quadruple the density. Where’s the compatibility? How would you like to
own a home that now backs up to this drastic change from what was expected.
5. Two locations along 146th St. Density of adjoining subdivisions averages approx.
1.48 u/a. The proposed density is about 3.5 times as high. Where is the
compatibility?
Land Classification Map, page 45, Low Intensity Suburban Residential
1. Carmel west of Springmill Rd. currently averages approx. 1.22 u/a. South of 116th St.
averages approx. 1.05 u/a. while north of 116th St. averages approximately 1.28 u/a.
2. Reducing the top density to 1.5 u/a is helpful, but the intent is in conflict with the plan for
incentives. With a zoned density of 1.5 u/a, any development of any quality could be
developed at 1.5 u/a. Incentives would not have any value, since they only work if the
developer gains something he otherwise could not do. If the density is 1.5 u/a but
density is used as an incentive, it can be expected that some developments would end up
closer to the 1.9, even though that supposedly is not the intent.
3. Except for where the map correctly classifies currently existing development/zoning, all
land west of Springmill Rd needs to be zoned Estate Residential. Estate Residential is in
keeping with the character of the area, in keeping with the current zoning that people
believed they were getting when they invested in their homes, and in keeping with what
the vast majority of the residents in the area strongly desire
Land Classification Map, page 45. Community Vitality Node
1. The VWC area with this classification is not compatible with the surrounding area that
currently fits Low Intensity Suburban Residential. Community Vitality Node is not listed
as an appropriate adjacent classification.
2. The VWC area with this classification has a lot of acres with no buildings. This invites
Brenwick to return with a new ordinance using the new classification. The only limit on
the commercial intensity is “the maximum building envelope, maximum impervious
surface, and on-site parking requirements.” We do not believe the City really wants a
Merchants Square or West Carmel Center (examples cited) at this location. Area
residents do not. This area is a red-hot button issue for area residents and increasing the
intensity will heat the flames for many residents.
3. This classification would also permit residential density up to 10 u/a, surrounded by
homes at a much, much lower density.
4. If this classification remains, the to-be-expected increase in intensity of use would result
in pressure to change intensity of use on surrounding land.
5. “Location” for Community Vitality Node says it is most appropriate near major
thoroughfares. Michigan Rd is a major thoroughfare and is designed for the truck traffic
that a large commercial area requires. Towne Road is not planned to become a Michigan
Rd and the required truck traffic would change the quality of life for those near Town
Road and for those driving through on their way to and from their homes in the area.
6. Since the Community Vitality Node would allow this area to become much more intense
than ever planned, this land does not fit this category. While the approved plan may be
larger than the next lower classification, Neighborhood Service Node, reclassifying it to
NSN would be much less apt to result in Brenwick asking for a new plan that changes
what has already been approved. Neighborhood Service Node is also much more in
keeping with the approval it was granted and promises made by City Council to not allow
this area affect surrounding properties.
Land Classification Map, page 45. VWC’s Urban Residential
CWIC2 support’s Dee Fox’s comment—inadvertently omitted in our submission.
Undeveloped land remains so Brenwick could return with a new ordinance requesting much
higher density, using this classification as the intent of the new Comp Plan.
Part 4: Transportation Plan, page 50-62
CWIC2 acknowledges that the needs of residents that live along thoroughfares must be
balanced against the needs of the greater community for efficient and effective traffic movement.
We support connectivity as a guiding principle and roadways constructed to handle the traffic
demand. We support the bike lanes since we know all too well how much one bike rider can
back up traffic on the current roadways. Gridlock benefits no one.
We do ask that you do everything possible to minimize the impact on the affected
neighbors. Please consider carefully the following:
1. Can the medians required for trees be reduced while still maintaining healthy
trees? Perhaps some good street trees require less space.
2. Are side paths to take 10 feet each side of the roads or is this for both? (Totaling
the numbers in the illustrations does not come to the right-of-way numbers). We
support side paths and do not wish them to be too narrow, but neither do we wish
them to be “expansive.” Ten foot each side seems much beyond what is needed.
3. There is right-of-way extending some distance past the paths. Please explain the
use of this right-of-way. Can this be reasonably reduced?
4. Areas where homes and neighborhoods were established before the existing
Thoroughfare Plan was developed usually lack the needed right-of-way. Those
residents would sometimes have to give up significant pieces of their yard. We
ask that the proposed Plan be sensitive to this and make every reasonable
accommodation to treat the road in context with its surroundings. For example:
Keystone, Hazel Dell, 116th St., and Towne Road are all classified as Primary
Parkway. Obviously Keystone is of a different magnitude than Hazel Dell, and
Carmel West is different in character from Carmel East.
Transportation Plan Map – page 63
There is a description for Residential Parkway 2-lane and Residential Parkway 4-lane,
but these are not distinguished on the map. Please identify where each is planned.
Part 4: Transportation Plan – page 75
The map identifies an “Enhanced Sidewalk,” but where is the descriptor of what that is?