HomeMy WebLinkAboutComments Packet 07, October 31 - Nov 11From: patrice4632@sbcglobal.net [mailto:patrice4632@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:31 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Subject: Re: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Also look at the wording in the Homeplace Subarea. The wording says the east/west connection
between Westfield and Penn is "essential" etc. Pat
From: patrice4632@sbcglobal.net [mailto:patrice4632@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:28 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Subject: Re: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Hi Adrienne -- the Land Classification map should include The Retreat area which includes the
ROW for 96th St. extension to the Monon. It should also include all the way over to Keystone
from 96th to 99th. Was this overlooked? The map in this section correctly brackets over to
Keystone. There is still no change in the wording on p.88 in the East/West Connectivity. I
thought I heard Brad say that it would be re-worded to be more cohesive. Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: Keeling, Adrienne M
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Good Afternoon:
A few edits were made at the Comprehensive Plan Committee meeting on
Tuesday, October, 28. A supplemental draft, dated October 31, is now available
which includes only the pages that changed. This supplement is to be used in
conjunction with the October 23 draft. They are available for review at:
• City’s Website:
http://www.ci.carmel.in.us/services/DOCS/DOCScccpp08/DOCScccpp08.
html
• DOCS Office, Carmel City Hall, Third Floor
The Committee is scheduled to meet again on Wednesday, November 12 in
the City Hall Council Chambers at 6pm. In preparation for the meeting, we
request that all written comments be received by Friday, November 7.
If you have additional questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
Adrienne Keeling
Planning Administrator
Carmel Department of Community Services
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
317-571-2417
Keeling, Adrienne M
From: Barbara Layton [b-layton@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:52 AM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Subject: Re: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Page 1 of 2
11/7/2008
Adrienne, please distribute the following to the Mayor, all members of City County, and members of
the Plan Commission. Thanks so much. :-)
Oh dear. We have a situation here....
We were PROMISED by City Council when the Clarian rezone was granted that residential would
remain along Spring Mill Road west of Illinois Street. Surrounding lands were specifically discussed,
and we were PROMISED that, in particular, the Pittmans would not be allowed to claim
hardship/domino as a result of the Clarian rezone and also have their land rezoned. FYI, the land to the
west of Spring Mill is currently for sale at commercial rates. Suppose that owner is also hoping for a
broken promise as well?
The latest Comp Plan draft has Pittman's land designated as an Area for Special Study, which when
translated, is step one for a rezone. City Council PROMISED this would not be allowed to happen.
Please honor the PROMISES made and do not reclassify either the Clarion or Pittman land. Both need
to remain and be developed residentially. Thanks so much. Barbara Layton
----- Original Message -----
From: Keeling, Adrienne M
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Good Afternoon:
A few edits were made at the Comprehensive Plan Committee meeting on Tuesday,
October, 28. A supplemental draft, dated October 31, is now available which includes only
the pages that changed. This supplement is to be used in conjunction with the October 23
draft. They are available for review at:
z City’s Website:
http://www.ci.carmel.in.us/services/DOCS/DOCScccpp08/DOCScccpp08.html
z DOCS Office, Carmel City Hall, Third Floor
The Committee is scheduled to meet again on Wednesday, November 12 in the City Hall
Council Chambers at 6pm. In preparation for the meeting, we request that all written
comments be received by Friday, November 7.
If you have additional questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
Adrienne Keeling
Planning Administrator
Keeling, Adrienne M
From: Dan Oldiges [danoldiges@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:32 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Page 1 of 1
11/7/2008
Adrienne,
10 foot high buildings on Meridian Street? I live in the Spring Mill Place Subdivision and it seems to me that no
one in Carmel cares about US!!! You want to put the land north of us into commercial (North of 111th) and you
want us to wake up every morning to see a large office complex. Carmel just recently annexed us and it seems
that all they want to do is make our lives miserable. This is a neighborhood with homes not office complexes. If
you are going to force things upon our neighborhood at least contact our neighborhood association and let us
know what your plans are before you decide to have last minute meetings to change your minds.
IE.....Designation of north of 111th as a "study" area!!!!
Make the buildings shorter and stop having meetings to keep changing your minds when we are not there!!!
I realize this is not your fault and that you are just being the messenger but some one has to tell the zoning
commission to stop this nonsense. I would appreciate it if you can pass this on to the correct people on the
board.
Thank you Adrienne,
Dan Oldiges
351 Spring Mill Court
Keeling, Adrienne M
From: carolynbs4@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:31 AM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Subject: US 31 Corridor Plans
Page 1 of 1
11/7/2008
It is our hope that the plans for the US 31 Corridor would not include 10 story buildings. Buildings of
this heighth would ruin so much of the beauty of our neighborhood. Please RESPECT OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD and OUR FAMILIES by keeping the proposed buildings to no more than the 6
stories.
Carolyn Scott
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Keeling, Adrienne M
From: Gerry [ggolden@goldenv.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:35 AM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Cc: Ron F Houck
Subject: Re: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Page 1 of 1
11/7/2008
Adrienne,
With our Spring Mill Place group pushing this concern, why can't the engineers develop a graphic that represents
OUR area? That area is between Springmill and Meridian and between 106 and 111 th streets.
We can't correctly respond unless we see an actual graphic with correct buffer area and type as outlined in
resolution.
The engineers keep putting this off as they do not want the council and us to see "reality"?
WIth that graphic it will become obvious that even an 8, 9 or 10 story building next to Meridian across from us will
be too tall because of sight lines from homes on east side of Spring Mill Place.
I am unable to attend the Wed 12th meeting.
Gerry Golden
308 Spring Mill Court
President
Golden Ventures, Inc.
317.872.2705
www.ceramabryte.com
Keeling, Adrienne M
From: Ron F Houck [HOUCK_RON_F@LILLY.COM]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:54 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Subject: Re: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Page 1 of 3
11/7/2008
Adrienne,
The graphic added to Part 5 in the US 31 Corridor section is misleading. Although it is probably designed to be generically applied, it does not accurately
represent the circumstances of our neighborhood with a 100 foot buffer. Additionally, the buffer area that is shown west of Illinois Street shows deciduous
trees taller than a two-story home. To not have a negative impact on our neighborhood, the buffer must provide total visual screening year round. This
would mean mounding and coniferous trees. The average specimens planted are usually 6-8 foot in height. Even with mounding, this only provides a 10-
12 foot height in the buffer area. To the graphic attached here, I added a typical line-of-sight from a home to the 10-story building in the cross-section. A
view of the upper stories of high buildings is unacceptable, if our property values are to be protected. For buildings fronting onto US 31 and near adjacent
residential areas the building height should not exceed six stories and for the 3-story and 6-story buildings there should be a maximum height restrictions
of 45 feet and 80 feet, respectively.
Keeling, Adrienne M
From: Hart, Kathleen [khart@boselaw.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:40 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Subject: Carmel comprehensive plan
Page 1 of 1
11/12/2008
Ms. Keeling,
I repeat my prior comments and request that the City of Carmel and Plan Commission restrict
the existence and/or height of commercial buildings in the Meridian Street Corridor and
anticipated Illinois Street segment near our neighborhood, Spring Mill Place (located between
106 and 111 Streets on Spring Mill Road) and take all other measures to comply with the
Resolution No. CC-12-17-01-02 that requires our neighborhood to have a "continuous visual
and sound buffer" from the development vis a vis coniferous, deciduous trees and variable
mounding, as well as realignment of Illinois Street right-of-way if necessary. Thank you.
Kathleen Hart
11009 Spring Mill Lane
Carmel, IN 46032
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From: jcl [jliebe@ameritech.net]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:48 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Cc: houck_ron_f@lilly.com
Subject: FW: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Page 1 of 2
11/12/2008
Dear Adrienne:
We are in agreement with Ron Houck (my neighbor in the Spring Mill Place subdivision) and his comments (per the "Part 5 in the US 31 Corridor."
John and Tammy Lieberman
10989 Spring Mill Lane
Carmel, IN 46032
From: Ron F Houck [mailto:HOUCK_RON_F@LILLY.COM]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:15 PM
To: Baques,J; Belcher, D; Byrne, J; Clark, Jack; Clark, Shirley; Diehr, M; Diehr, M; Gardiner, D; Glesing, S; Golden, B; Golden, G; Hagen, R; Harry, W; Hart, K; Healey, P; Hile, J; Hile,
K;
Houck, P; Houck, R; Jehs, D; Jenkins, L; Kirsh, J; Kirsh, S; Lamie, V; Lieberman, J; Marsh, A; Marsh, R; Mason, A; McKenna, R; Murray, R; Oldiges, D; Oldiges, L; Pearson, L; Pearson,
R;
Perry, K; Perry, M; Roach, D; Roach, S; Schnitz, M; Scott, C; Sergi, J; Sergi, J; Sharp, M; Sharp, M; Sharp, M; Skarbeck, E; Thompson, L; Wagner, G; Williams, B; Williams, K; Zimmerman,
B; Zimmerman, J; medland@aol.com
Subject: Re: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
To all neighbors:
FYI. I sent the email below to Adrienne, feel free to borrow or supplement with your own words. They have requested that all comments be submitted by today. The meeting will be next
Wednesday (12th) and your attendance is necessary.
Ron
Adrienne,
The graphic added to Part 5 in the US 31 Corridor section is misleading. Although it is probably designed to be generically applied, it does not accurately represent the circumstances
of our
neighborhood with a 100 foot buffer. Additionally, the buffer area that is shown west of Illinois Street shows deciduous trees taller than a two-story home. To not have a negative impact
on
our neighborhood, the buffer must provide total visual screening year round. This would mean mounding and coniferous trees. The average specimens planted are usually 6-8 foot in
height. Even with mounding, this only provides a 10-12 foot height in the buffer area. To the graphic attached here, I added a typical line-of-sight from a home to the 10-story building
in the
cross-section. A view of the upper stories of high buildings is unacceptable, if our property values are to be protected. For buildings fronting onto US 31 and near adjacent residential
areas
the building height should not exceed six stories and for the 3-story and 6-story buildings there should be a maximum height restrictions of 45 feet and 80 feet, respectively.
Ron
Good Afternoon:
A few edits were made at the Comprehensive Plan Committee meeting on Tuesday, October, 28. A supplemental draft, dated October 31, is now available
which includes only the pages that changed. This supplement is to be used in conjunction with the October 23 draft. They are available for review at:
Ron F Houck/AM/LLY
11/06/2008 06:53 PM
To "Keeling, Adrienne M" <AKeeling@carmel.in.gov>
cc
Subject Re: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages AvailableLink
"Keeling, Adrienne M" <AKeeling@carmel.in.gov>
10/31/2008 04:18 PM
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Subject Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Keeling, Adrienne M
From: Andy Marsh [amarsh@solutionshealthcare.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 4:08 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Subject: FW: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
Page 1 of 3
11/12/2008
I agree with Ron Houck's comments below. Being at the back of a cul-de-sac and having woods behind our lot which
will face Illinois street and the buildings, we want a reasonable amount of buffer betweeen our back yard and the
road/buildings. There needs to be discussion with the homeowners as to the exact amount of buffer/trees, etc that will
be utilized. Thanks. Andy
Andy
Andrew E. Marsh, MHA
Vice-President, Practice Consulting
Solutions Healthcare Management
5224 South East Street, Suite 3
Indianapolis, Indiana 46227
Office: (317) 781-3604 ext. 105
Mobile: (317) 341-4393
Fax: (317) 780-3121
Email: amarsh@solutionshealthcare.com
From: Ron F Houck [mailto:HOUCK_RON_F@LILLY.COM]
Sent: Fri 11/7/2008 3:15 PM
To: Baques,J; Belcher, D; Byrne, J; Clark, Jack; Clark, Shirley; Diehr, M; Diehr, M; Gardiner, D; Glesing, S; Golden, B;
Golden, G; Hagen, R; Harry, W; Hart, K; Healey, P; Hile, J; Hile, K; Houck, P; Houck, R; Jehs, D; Jenkins, L; Kirsh, J;
Kirsh, S; Lamie, V; Lieberman, J; Andy Marsh; Marsh, R; Mason, A; McKenna, R; Murray, R; Oldiges, D; Oldiges, L;
Pearson, L; Pearson, R; Perry, K; Perry, M; Roach, D; Roach, S; Schnitz, M; Scott, C; Sergi, J; Sergi, J; Sharp, M;
Sharp, M; Sharp, M; Skarbeck, E; Thompson, L; Wagner, G; Williams, B; Williams, K; Zimmerman, B; Zimmerman, J;
medland@aol.com
Subject: Re: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages Available
To all neighbors:
FYI. I sent the email below to Adrienne, feel free to borrow or supplement with your own words. They have requested
that all comments be submitted by today. The meeting will be next Wednesday (12th) and your attendance is
necessary.
Ron
Ron F Houck/AM/LLY
11/06/2008 06:53 PM
To "Keeling, Adrienne M" <AKeeling@carmel.in.gov>
cc
Subject Re: Comprehensive Plan - Supplemental Pages AvailableLink
Adrienne,
The graphic added to Part 5 in the US 31 Corridor section is misleading. Although it is probably designed to be
generically applied, it does not accurately represent the circumstances of our neighborhood with a 100 foot buffer.
Additionally, the buffer area that is shown west of Illinois Street shows deciduous trees taller than a two-story home.
To not have a negative impact on our neighborhood, the buffer must provide total visual screening year round. This
would mean mounding and coniferous trees. The average specimens planted are usually 6-8 foot in height. Even with
mounding, this only provides a 10-12 foot height in the buffer area. To the graphic attached here, I added a typical line-
of-sight from a home to the 10-story building in the cross-section. A view of the upper stories of high buildings is
unacceptable, if our property values are to be protected. For buildings fronting onto US 31 and near adjacent
residential areas the building height should not exceed six stories and for the 3-story and 6-story buildings there should
be a maximum height restrictions of 45 feet and 80 feet, respectively.
Ron
Good Afternoon:
A few edits were made at the Comprehensive Plan Committee meeting on Tuesday, October, 28.
A supplemental draft, dated October 31, is now available which includes only the pages that
changed. This supplement is to be used in conjunction with the October 23 draft. They are
available for review at:
z City’s Website: http://www.ci.carmel.in.us/services/DOCS/DOCScccpp08/DOCScccpp08.html
z DOCS Office, Carmel City Hall, Third Floor
The Committee is scheduled to meet again on Wednesday, November 12 in the City Hall Council
Chambers at 6pm. In preparation for the meeting, we request that all written comments be
received by Friday, November 7.
If you have additional questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
Adrienne Keeling
Planning Administrator
Carmel Department of Community Services
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
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Keeling, Adrienne M
From: Linda Oldiges [linoldiges@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:09 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Page 1 of 1
11/12/2008
Adrienne,
The graphic added to Part 5 in the US 31 Corridor section is misleading. Although it is probably designed to be
generically applied, it does not accurately represent the circumstances of our neighborhood with a 100 foot buffer.
Additionally, the buffer area that is shown west of Illinois Street shows deciduous trees taller than a two-story
home. To not have a negative impact on our neighborhood, the buffer must provide total visual screening year
round. This would mean mounding and coniferous trees. The average specimens planted are usually 6-8 foot in
height. Even with mounding, this only provides a 10-12 foot height in the buffer area. To the graphic attached
here, I added a typical line-of-sight from a home to the 10-story building in the cross-section. A view of the upper
stories of high buildings is unacceptable, if our property values are to be protected. For buildings fronting onto US
31 and near adjacent residential areas the building height should not exceed six stories and for the 3-story and 6-
story buildings there should be a maximum height restrictions of 45 feet and 80 feet, respectively.
Linda Oldiges
Keeling, Adrienne M
From: Rhonda Marsh [rmarsh@healthyindy.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:31 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Subject: SpringMill Place Neighborhood
Page 1 of 1
11/12/2008
Dear Adrienne,
I just wanted to agree with the email you received from Ron Houck regarding the potential building
height of the proposed buildings to line the new section of Illinois Street. It will pass along the back of
our property. Currently we enjoy a quiet view out of our backyard windows with the ability to view
wildlife and nature daily. Please don't ruin this view with 6-10 story buildings! The main reason we
purchased this home for our family with 2 young children was our 2 acre wooded, quiet, safe lot!! We
are very concerned about what these proposed changes will do to our yard, view and property value. We
are asking that the height of these buildings be limited to under 6 stories maximum!
Thank you for your consideration on this most sensitive matter!! Please forward this email to the
appropriate council members!
Sincerely,
Rhonda Marsh
317 Spring Ridge Court
580-0908
Keeling, Adrienne M
From: Carmel Clay Historical Society [cchistory@indy.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:03 AM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M
Subject: Plan Commission
Page 1 of 2
11/12/2008
Dear Adrienne:
Please distribute the following letter to members of the Plan Commission. This is a
statement giving the position of the Carmel Clay Historical Societ regarding the Plan
Commission's ongoing consideratoin of construction practices in Carmel which
impact historic character districts, and individul sites now occupied by historical
structures (such as the Monon Depot Museum t 211 First St. SW.
Also, the Society would like to make available to the Commission a new
informational source which we have just received which can aid them in their
awareness of historical structures in Old Town: an architectural survey by the Ball
State University Architecture School just received here at the Society office. Thank
you.
Tom Rumer
CCHS Historian
Plan Commission Members:
The Carmel Clay Historical Society supports an "Urban Residential" zoning
designation for the site of our Monon Depot Museum and grounds at 211 First St.
SW, and the entirety of the surrounding neighborhood. It is also essential that
"Character Areas" in Carmel be described clearly in official language as banning
townhomes, and that the rule of five (5) units per acre be strictly adhered to during
future development.
Infill housing of greater than five units per acre would clearly be in stark contrast to
the historic context of this unique urban area. Since the Plan Commission recently
refused to rezone part of this Character sub-area, specifically to safeguard three
properties on First St. SW because of the negative impact such a rezoning would
have on this predominantly one-story neighborhood, it is now essential that all
Character Areas be firmly and permanently designated "Urban Residential" on the
City Land Use Map, and that townhomes not be allowed within these residential
areas.
We also alert the Commission to a new informational resource which the Society
has just acquired that can be of significant help to the Commission in identifying
historic structures in Carmel. The Architecture School at Ball State University is
finalizing an extensive historic architecture survey of Old Town. This study shows
that the majority of homes in the Character Area contribute to the historical
character of residential Old Town and that they are a valuable asset due to their
uniform and consistent urban form, as well as their massing, style, and history. This
survey is available to the Commission at any time; it is also a primary technical
sourse which we will make available to Old Town property owners who want to
continue to invest substantially in their historic residences.
Maintaining our cultural heritage, as represented in long existing notable
architecture as in Old Town, most assuredly should be an interest which the Plan
Commission consistently supports.
Thank you,
The Carmel Clay HIstorical Society
Nancy Childs, president
dchilds@indy.rr.com
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