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The undersigned agrees that any construction, reconstruction, enlargement, relocation or
alteration of structure, or any change in the use of land or structures requested by this
application will comply with, and conform to, all applicable laws of the State of Indiana,
and the "Zoning Ordinance of Carmel, Indiana 1980 adopted under the authority of Acts
of 1979, Public Law 178 Sec. 1 et seq, General Assembly of the State of Indiana, and all
Acts amendatory thereto.
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REQUIRED APPROVALS: PCLk, /P, Lg BZA J AD NONE 17C; C: C?
ORDINANCE SECTION GOVERNING THIS SIGN:
OLD T0WNE YES cNO
SIGN DATE �,j4,,,
SIGN TYPE: 7 7/ (See Page 2)
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CERTIFICATION /9/
I CERTIFY THAT THIS SIGN WILL BE ERECTED AND MAINTAINED IN ACCORDANCE: WITH ZONING
ORDINANCES OF CARMIEL /CLAY TOWNSHIP, HAMILTON COUNTY, AND ERECTED WITHIN SIX (6) MONTHS
OR THIS PERMIT IS NULL AND VOID.
APPLICANT FURTHER CERTIFIES BY SIGNING THIS APPLICATION THAT HE HMS 3EEN ADVISED THAT ALL
REPRESENTATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF.COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ARE ADVISORY ONLY AND THAT
APPLICANT SHOULD RELY ON THE LEGAL ADVICE OF HIS ATTORNEY.
Estimated Date of Cletilon
IMPROVEMENT LOCATION PERMIT
SIGN STRUCTURE PERMIT
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Carmel Clay Township, Hamilton County, Indiana
Sign Permit Application
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Hunan Gourmet
Specictlizing in HUN 6 MANDARIN Ctrisrne
Prescribed by State Board of Accounts
CARMEL, IND.
RECEIVED FROM
THE SUM OF
ON ACCOUNT OF
BUILDING COMMISSIONERS OFFICE
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permit: 1/19/83
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permit: 1/19/83
CITY OF CARMEL
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Hunan Gourmet
2340 E. 116th St.
Hunan Gourmet
2340 E. 116th St'.
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John Shaw (Hsia)
846-9192
Ralph Wilfong-partner
A.E. BOVCC co,. muriciE. N. GENERAL FORM NO. 2Z
Shopping Center
Keystone Square
N2 14665
s/ 73
DOLLARS
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Mr.. Anderson that the site plan will have to be approved by the
City`eEngineer .and that, if other studies are ,:iecessary, it would go to W.C.
Nfr Litvan said that she prefers a rezone and that she sees no hardship
of the land and it should be used for what it is zoned for and that
she would'not be able to vote for the proposal.
Mr. Adler cited a case which states that, if a use is proper and the
Boarct.agrees and. the applicant feels it is proper, then one should not be
a slave to its rules.
Mr. Marsh.moved that V 16 -81 be approved as submitted, contingent upon
the City Engineer's approval of the site plan. Seconded by Mrs. Skeens.
Finding of fact forms were completed and the vote was 5 For, 1 Against
(Mrs. Litvan voting NO) Mr. Marsh voted FOR
3h'. 8:00 P.M., Public Hearing on Docket No. V 17 -81, Sign Variance Appli-
cation for sign,. which does not meet size requirements as set forth i
Carmel City Code, Ctlapter 27.05 (b) 2, for Estridge's Charcoal steak
House, 2340 E. 116th' St in B -4 zoning.
Filed by Scott Estridge.
The public hearing opened at 8 :45 with Mr. Estridge making the present-
ation to keep the larger size sign than permitted by ordinance for the
building. The color scheme will be the same as in the Keystone Square
Center. There will be one sign on the front of the building only (ivory a
bronze). A rendering was shown of the 160 sq. ft. sign.
No remonstrators were present and the public hearing closed at 8 :48.
Mrs. Skeens moved that V 17 -81 be approved as stated. Seconded by Mrs.
Book.
..Finding of:fact'forms were completed and the vote was 6 For, 0 Against
with Mr. harsh oting For. Motion carried.
8 :15 P :Vtt Public Hearing on Docket No. V 18 Sign Variance Appli-
cation- o'r off premises sign for Brookshire Development Corp., which
.eequires} variance from Carmel City Code 27.04 (c). Zoning is R -1.
Filed ':b Hughey.
The public- _hearing opened at 8:50 with Mr. Hughey making the presentation
asking, for permission to change the wording on a double faced sign to read
"Brookshire_ Lakes Model Homes A temporary variance is requested for 3
years with an option for renewal.
No remonstrators were present and the public hearing closed at 8 :53.
Mr. Hughey said that he would not be opposed to renewing in one year.
Mr. Marsh moved to approve V 18 -81 for a one year renewable variance.
Seconded by Mr. Ross.
Finding of fact forms were completed and the vote was 6 For, 0 Against
with Mr. Marsh :voting For. Motion carried.
5h. 8 :30 P.M., Public Hearing on Docket No. V 19 -81, Use Variance Appli-
cation for addition to Ceramics by Marvelle, to be located at 108th
St. and McPherson St. in R -3 zoning.
Filed by Georgia Ketterman.
1The public' hearing opened at 9:05 with Mrs. Ketterman making the present-
ation for perrission to join two buildings and build a classroom and rest-
room.
No remonstrators were present and the public hearing closed at 9:07.
Mrs. Skeens to approve 19 -81 as presented. Seconded by Dr. Dowell.
Finding- of fact forms were completed and the vote was 6 For, 0 Against
with Mr. Marsh voting For. Motion carried.
1. Old Business
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SHOPPING CENTER LEGEND
SPACE
GLA
A D PPR IMENS OXIMAT IONS E
TENANT
A• 1
4397
45 x 97
A•2
2716
28 x 97
A•3
3104
32 x 97
A•4
3224
31 x 97
WOODEN KEY No.5
A 5
5 51
1 8 x 3 1
FREE SHOP
A•6
650
25 x 26
AYR WAY SNACK BAR
A -7
1188
27 x 44
A•8
191 4
33 x 66
RADIO SHACK
B• 1
1 8 4 8
24 x 77
GREINER'S SUB SHOP
B •2
663
1 7 x 39
BALDWIN PIANO 8 ORGAN
B• 3
9 3 6
24 x 39
CARMEL FLOWER MAR^
B
48 0
2 0 x 24
PEANUT SHACK
8•5,6
3134
53 x 73
ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT
6 7
7 7 0
15 x 51
B•8
4365
458 97
C •1
D•1
D -2
D•3
D•4
D
D -6
E•1
E -2
E •3
E •4
E
E•7
F•1
F•2
F•3
F•4
F -6
2821
1676
2055
1370
511
1 461
1576
1964
2146
13 70
1370
1713
1370
3612
4000
3500
2500
2400
F•5- 1200
1020
30 x 93
29 X 56
30x66
20 x 68
77 x 65
21 •68
23 a 68
29 68
31 a 60
70 x 68
20 x 68
25 x 68
20 x 68
55 x 65
40 a 100
35.. 100
31 x 60
30 x 80
20 x 60
1 7 x 60
BOOKWORM
CHECKERBOARD
PAUL HARRIS
JUNGLE JIM
SHIRT SHACK
CLASSIC CASUALS
SHOE GALLERY
SHAMARAY, LTD.
FAYVA SHOES
SOUND PRODUCTION
WOODEN KEY CARD GIFT
SCHOCK'S TOY HOBBY
SOPHISTICATES LADIES APPAREL
BASKIN ROBBINS
CAMERA SHOP
8-9 2942
G•1
G•
G -3
G•4
G•5
G•6
G -7
H•1
H -2
H• 3
H•
1
1 •2
1.3
1
1::.• 6
1 6
1 7
1. -8
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2400
1200
1440
1 8 II 8
800
1536
1265
IS 94
1138
1102
2275
1057
SOO
1363
940
1692
1504
846
2 S 311
30 x 80
15 x 60
ID x 00
55 Al 34
15 x55
28 x55
23 x 5S
29 65
1 7 x 65
1 7 x 65
35 x 65
21 150
16 SO
27
34x50
47x50
22 150
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FOGLE'S G/O
TUCHMAN CLEANERS
INTERNATIONAL HAIRPORT
UNION FEDERAL SAVINGS 6 LOAN
KEYSTONE SOUARE BARBER
BURGHER JEWELERS
COLONIAL FLORISTS
SWEET TOOTH
CARMEL TRAVEL
ANIMAL EMPIRE
LEEDS OPTOMETRIST
HERMAN'S BOOTERY
FRAMES Rr TATNGS
NEW LEAF
TOO SHOP
BRIDAL BOUTIQUE
TUX SHOP
JEANS PLUS
30 x 97 j
MARSH
Drive
Ayr -Wey
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HAAG
DRUG
Service Drive
F•1
F•2
AYR -WAY
F•4 v,
Ayr -Way
entrance
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D•5
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A 5
A•6
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B•7
8•6
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E 2
E •3
8
5.5
E 6
E'7
A-1
A.2
A•3
A•4 1
B
8•8
B-9
A 7
A-8
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east mall
entrance
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0.7
G•6
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HARDWARE
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WOODLAND TWIN
THEATER
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NEW AYR WAY MALL CENTER
SPACE GLA
AYR -WAY
UNIT A SHOPS
UNIT 8 SHOPS
UNIT C SHOPS
81.339 e.l
15.500
14.500
2.821
TOTAL 115. 160 ,.l.
KEYSTONE SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER
MARSH 26 400 1
HAAG 10.200
UNIT D 13.000
UNIT E 13.000
UNIT F 14,620
UNIT G 10 5 29
WOODLAND TWIN 9.200
ANTHONY 8.000
UNIT H SHOPS 6.409
UNIT 1 SHOPS 11.862
TOTA
GRAND TOTAL
173 81
238,380 at
PARKING RATIO 5.5 CARS PER 1000 a.l. GLA
116 th STREET KEYSTONE AVENUE
CARMEL INDIANA
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5 RMEL PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 18, 1983
any sign permits can be issued depending upon the status of the. Sign
Ordinance at the time that they apply for the sign.
Seconded by Mr. Boone.
Mrs. McMullen questioned if residents across the street had been
notified as requested.
Mr. Senefield said that they had and that neither property owner has
responded to their letter as of this date.
Mrs. Litvan said that some date should be set after which, if they
have not responded, the'petitioner is not responsible for providing these
plantings. Mrs. Litvan suggested that this should be stated in the motion.
Mr. Senefield said the projected date of occupancy is for late fall or
early winter of 1983.
Mr. Boone amended the motion to include if there has been no response
to the letters 60 days from todays date, the petitioner is not respons-
ible for providing plantings, and with another notice to be sent out.
Seconded by Mr. Story.
Mr. Senefield said that, if it is the Commission's request, he will
notify the two property owners again by registered mail.
Mr. Terry said he feels that sufficient notice has been given to the
property owners.
Mr. Senefield said he would like to give the property owners two weeks.
Mr. Terry moved to amend the motion to include that, if the petitioner
does not hear from the property owners in two weeks, the matter of the
plantings is closed.
Seconded by Mrs. McMullen
Motion carried.
K. New Business
Page 2
lk. Commission to consider Sign Application for Hunan Gourmet, 2340
E. 116th St. (formerly Charcoal Steak House) in Keystone Square
and B -4 zoning. Proposed sign larger than allowed by Carmel Sign
Ordinance. Proposed sign is 40' x 4' or 160 sq. ft. Sign allowed
by Ordinance is 50 sq. ft. Design, color and logo conform to Key-
stone Square Sign Package. Also to be determined is if the current
sign can is grandfathered as to size allowed. If it is not, a
Variance will be required.
Filed by Jack Johnson and Harold Eggars for Hunan Gourmet.
Mr. Eggars made the presentation. A sign rendering was passed to
members.
Mrs. McMullen questioned why the Commission is looking at this sign
when last month a Sign Package for this area was passed by the Commission
stating that if this sign conformed to the ordinance requirement and was
only oversized, that only the BZA would look at the matter.
Mr. Eggars said they are before the Commission because they feel that
the sign is grandfathered- a legal non conforming issue.
Mrs. Litvan said that, if this sign was erected for the original Sign
Ordinance in 1973, then it is grandfathered.
Mr. Eggars cited page 22 of the Sign Ordinance, paragraph 25- Non -Con-
forming Signs.
Mr. Eggars said they were not advised on certain dates, as stated in
the ordinance, that these signs are non- conforming and they feel that they
are a legal non conforming sign in Keystone Square.
Mr. Eggars said they feel they are not changing the sign. The can re-
mains the same and they are only changing the copy.
The rendering passed to members shows the copy to be in the can and Mr.
Eggars stated that he cannot get a permit from Mr. Kiphart to put in this
new copy.
Mrs. Litvan explained the circumstances for the former Estridge sign
and lights there, stating that a Variance was granted for the sign to say
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES JANUARY 18, 1983 Page 3 55
"Estridge's Charcoal Steakhouse but that she does not recall whether the
Variance was granted for the can to stay on the building. It will be
necessary to pull the file in order to determine the matter. (Mr. Kiphart
went to City Hall for the file)
Mrs. Badger questioned ownership of the sign cans.
The Commission will continue this issue with Mr. Eggars later in the
meeting, at the end of the agenda, when Mr. Kiphart returns with the
necessary information regarding the former Variance.
2k. Commission to consider Architectural Design, Lighting and Signage
Sign Approval for proposed Standard Food sign completely different
than approved Sign Package for Keystone Square Shopping Mall, locat-
ed where Green Basket Food Store was in Keystone Square Shopping Mall,
116th Street side.
a. larger than allowed.
b. individual letters not a box sign.
c. not trapezoidal in shape.
d. logo is larger than allowed.
e. different colors than approved in Sign Package.
Filed by Robin Arnold for Standard Food Stores.
Mr. Jim Nelson made the presentation.
Ms. Robin Arnold and Bill Chance, from the Real Estate division, were
present.
Mr. Nelson related that items d and e in the agenda can be eliminated.
A rendering of the 26,400 sq. ft. building with signage in place was
shown.
The ordinance allows 90 sq. ft. of signage for this location.
Mr. Nelson said they request a Variance because this space was intended
for an anchor tenant for the center and they feel they should have identi-
fication available to them the same as their competition in the community
has. Also, they feel they need identification as a new competitor in the
Carmel market. They are 631 ft. back from 116th St. and unless the
Variance is granted they will not have the visibility needed.
Robin Arnold explained the sign dimensions.
Mr. Gundersen questioned why the Commission is hearing this request
for a Variance.
Mr. Merrill related that we are looking at the architectural design.
Ms. Arnold passed a photo to show what the sign will look like and
stated that it will be smaller than the former Marsh or Green Basket signs.
Letters are to be 48" and 58" high and the sign will be internally lighted.
The sign will have a dark background with ivory letters.
Mrs. Badger questioned logo size. The logo size does not meet ordin-
ance requirements.
Mr. Merrill said the purpose tonight is to give an opinion on archi-
tectural design.
Mrs. McMullen moved to suspend the rules and vote on this item this
evening.
Seconded by Mr. Terry.
Motion carried.
Mr. Terry moved to approve the architectural design.
Seconded by Mrs. McMullen.
Mrs. McMullen stated she feels that looking at this this evening has
been a waste of time and of no help to the BZA.
Mr. Gundersen asked how many signs in the center are not trapezoidal.
Mr. Nelson said Target, Haag and the former Green Basket.
Mr. Kiphart stated that he feels the signs approved should meet the
previously approved Sign Package for Keystone Square.
Ballots were cast.
The vote was 7 For, 6 Against. Motion carried.
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES DECEMBER 21, 1982 Page 3 1 j;
Mr. Merrill asked that this be reviewed by Mr. Kiphart.
Sidewalks are on the plat.
The petitioner will return to the Commission for sign approval.
The motion carried unanimously.
2h. Commission to consider Architectural Design, Lighting and Sign Appli-
cation for Jim Dandy Restaurant to be located at 715 E. Carmel Drive
(formerly Sambo's) in B -4 zoning. Sent to Industrial and Commercial
Committee for review and report.
Filed by Harry Reasner, Jr. for Jim Dandy.
Mr. Reasner was present.
Mrs. Litvan gave the Industrial and Commercial Committee report (which
is a part of the official minutes and attached to the master copy). The
committee recommended approval, but Mrs. Litvan felt it was necessary to
address the directional sign, and Mrs. Litvan so moved.
Seconded by Mr. Boone.
Discussion followed.
The vote was unanimous for approval.
3h. Commission to consider Docket No. 16 -82 Z, Rezone Application for
7.75 acres located at S.E..corner of 116th St. and Range Line Rd.
(surrounding Mobil Oil Co.), from R -1 to B -5 classification. Sent
to Land Use and Technical Advisory Committees for review and report.
Filed by Robt. Hughes for T.K. Stevens and 4.R. Fisher.
This item was tabled at the petitioner's request until the February
subcommittee and regular meetings.
I. New Business
li. Commission to consider Amendment to Final Plat for Winterwood Sub-
division concerning relocation of easement for access to common area.
Filed by Chris White for Mid States Engineering.
Mr. White made the presentation. Agreement modifying covenants and
restrictions for Winterwood was presented to members. Amendments were given
and explained.
Mr. White requested approval.
Mr. Merrill asked to be excused from this petition.
Mr. Gundersen chaired and Mrs. Litvan moved to approve this item subject
to Technical Advisory Committee approval and that their approval be placed
in the TAC minutes.
Seconded by Mrs. Badger. Motion carried.
3i. Commission to consider Sign Package for two outlying buildings of
Keystone Square Shopping Center. The buildings involved are south-
east of mall.
Filed by Harold Eggar for Keystone Square Shopping Center.
Mr. Eggar made the presentation for signage to be trapezoidal, cream
and brown in color and to the disgression of the Sign Ordinance and the
Department of Community Development.
Mr. Eggar related that item 2i, Sign Application for Hunan Gourmet,
meets these requirements.
Mr. Eggar requested that, if the signs on the strip buildings meet the
Ordinance, trapezoidal configuration, color schemes- that the Director of
Community Development be authorized to issue a permit for that sign.
Mrs. Litvan stated she feels that this is an excellent idea and that
there is need for the record to get a sign package approval by the Commission.
Mrs. Litvan moved to accept as a sign package for Keystone Square Shop-
ping Center, that is not already dealt with by the Variance which is on