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Home My WebLink AboutMinutes SpecStdy 12-01-09G\ P 4 RTNERy -j OF CAP FoRT�n� City of arme /ND I AN P CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE TUESDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2009 CAUCUS ROOMS, 2nd FLR CARMEL CITY HALL ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, IN 46032 6:00 PM Members Present: Woody Rider, Rick Ripma, Madeleine Torres, Susan Westermeier Members Absent: Heather Irizarry DOCS Staff Present: Director Michael Hollibaugh; Christine Barton Holmes; Rachel Boone; John Molitor, Legal Counsel. Also Present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary The Special Studies Committee considered the following items: 1. Docket No. 09100003 ADLS Amend: Alexandria Apartments Signage The applicant seeks design approval for 1 new identification sign. The site is located at the SE corner of Pennsylvania and Main St. and is zoned OM/MF- Old Meridian District Multi- Family. Filed by Nancy Long of A -1 Expeditors on behalf of Edward Rose Companies. Present for Petitioner: Nancy Long, A -1 Expeditors Overview: Existing sign located at 1411 Fairfax Manor Existing sign is 5 feet tall, 8 feet wide, verbiage is 9 square feet Request secondary sign on the north side of street across from Fairfax Proposed sign will be at secondary entrance to complex Proposed sign is non illuminated, brick, "Alexandria" in the middle of the sign Proposed sign is double -sided Dept Report, Rachel Boone: Original proposal did not have a sign at this entrance One sign is allowed per public street Sign is within size allowed by Ordinance Dept recommends positive consideration Motion: Woody Rider "to approve Docket No. 09100003 ADLS Amend, Alexandria Apartments Signage," seconded by Sue Westermeier, voted 4 -0 Motion Approved S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /SpecialStudies /2009 /PC -SS dec 01 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Docket No. 09110029 ADLS Amend: Carmel Marketplace (previously "The Fountains Signage The applicant seeks approval for a new monument identification sign for the complex. The site is located at 502 E. Carmel Dr. and is zoned B -8. Filed by Matt Griffm of Buckingham Companies. Present for Petitioner: Matt Griffin, Buckingham Companies, Indianapolis. Overview: Signage being requested for 502 East Carmel Drive Site is previously known as The Fountains Site is permitted a ground sign —never requested previously Sign is 75 square feet, limited to 5 tenant panels on either side The Fountains tenant will probably be listed at top of sign Petitioner is installing sign on larger island to the east of the site Petitioner will remove "For Lease" sign and install proposed ground sign Landscape plan includes small landscape shrubs— replaced annually Balance of landscaping is small shrubbery Dept Report, Rachel Boone: Proposed sign does not have to list every tenant Dept is OK with design and brick columns Proposed sign will help identify the center Name of Center being changed to "Carmel Marketplace" Landscape plan provided by petitioner Sign Panels are white with black routed letters —will shine white at night Dept recommends approval Motion: Sue Westermeier "to approve Docket No. 09110020 ADLS Amend, Carmel Marketplace," seconded by Woody Rider, voted 4 -0 Motion Approved Docket No. 09110030 ADLS Amend: Meridian Technology Center, Firestone Global Research and Development Lab. The applicant seeks approval for signage, exterior building modifications, and a bio -swale /rain garden. The site is located at 11799 College Dr. and is zoned 13-2 /13usiness. Filed by Joe Scimia of Baker Daniels for Firestone Industrial Products, LLC. Present for Petitioner: Joe Scimia, attorney, Baker Daniels, 600 East 96"' Street. Overview: Use of property will be for global research and development laboratory Similar existing facility will be re- located into a single development lab at this location Property will be occupied by approx 60 engineers ADLS amendment will accommodate exterior building modifications Replace parking with bio -swale /rain garden Two signs are proposed for this site Proposed wall sign will be 74.8 square feet -115 square feet is allowed by Ordinance Wall sign will be individual, internally illuminated red letters centered over the building entrance Proposed ground sign will be 65 square feet and six feet tall Ground sign will be individual aluminum dimensional letters mounted to a decorative wall Changing several existing windows to overhead doors S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /SpecialStudies /2009 /PC -SS dec 01 2 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Upgrading HVAC system to add chiller cooling tower Removing surface parking and replacing with landscape area Significant up- grades to property Up- lights are ground- mounted Will install landbank for parking Dept Report, Christine B- Holmes: Changes are primarily cosmetic and functional Property is well- screened Dept commends petitioner for bringing property back to its natural state Dept will look at parking as to whether or not a variance is needed Confirmed: 60 Engineers total at this location Petitioner proposes 280 parking spaces with 140 spaces land banked Dept has no concerns with site or building modifications Signage Report, Rachel Boone: Two signs proposed for the site Wall sign is 74.8 square feet; 115 square feet is allowed Wall sign will have individual, internally illuminated red letters centered over bldg entrance Proposed Ground Sign is 65 square feet, 6 feet tall allowed by Ordinance Sign wil be individual, aluminum dimensional letters on a decorative wall Letters will be black and externally illuminated Ground sign will be up- lighted, ground mounted Dept is OK with signage and lighting Committee Comments: Likes concept of returning property to natural state If parking is changed, what happens years down the road? Note: Parking ratio based on use1 space for every 250 square feet —would depend on use after Firestone vacated Joe Scima states that parking can be restored to intensive use petitioner has made plans to restore to intense use in the future Motion: Sue Westermeier "to approve Docket No. 09110030 ADLS Amend, Meridian Technology Center, Firestone Global Research, as presented to the Committee," seconded by Woody Rider, voted 4 -0 Motion Approved. 4. Docket No. 09110028 ADLS Amend: East 96th St Auto Park, lot 3 Tom O'Brien The applicant seeks approval for an architectural arch to be added to the building. The site is located at 4630 E 96th Street and is zoned B-3/Business. Filed by Tom O'Brien of Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep. Present for Petitioner: Tom O'Brien, Jr.; Jack Gannon, Chrysler Corp. Overview: Chrysler request Committee consideration regarding installation of architectural arch to the fagade of the building Chrysler requests luckabon material —shiny metallic material Arch would be 4 feet higher than existing roof line S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /SpecialStudies /2009 /PC -SS dec 01 3 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Examples of other dealerships shown with luckabon— metallic look Department Report, Christine B- Holmes: Prior Minutes speak for themselves Project only requires committee vote Committee Comments: Absolutely not in favor of shiny silver Ditto previous comments on shiny silver Arch looks like a silly add -on —not in favor Motion: Kevin Woody Rider "to DENY Docket No. 09110028 ADLS Amend, East 96 Street Auto Park, Lot 3, Tom O'Brien," seconded by Madeleine Torres, voted 4 -0 MOTION DENIED At this time, formal motion was made to re -order the Agenda. The following item was heard out of Agenda sequence. 5. Docket No. 09090017 OA: 116' and College PUD (116' Street Centre, Ph 2). The applicant seeks approval to amend Ordinance Z- 484 -05; 116"' Street Centre Planned Unit Development (PUD). The site is located at the northeast corner of 116"' St. and College Ave. and is Zoned PUD. Filed by Steve Hardin of Baker Daniels, LLP for J.C.Hart Company, Inc. Present for Petitioner: Steve Hardin, attorney, Baker Daniels; Randy Sherman, John Hart, Todd May, Mark Zuckerman. Overview: Petitioner has worked with staff regarding revisions, connectivity, buffering, screening Petitioner reached an understanding with staff, revisions submitted Randy Sherman: Changes made from original proposal Straightened north end of property and designated future right -of -way Removed northern most building from site plan eliminating 15 units Reduced number of buildings to two Buildings will be 3- stories with drive -under parking Buildings will have store -front character Buildings will give mixed -use appearance along College Ave Amenity Building moved farther west Moving building shifted office use out of neighbors back yard Petitioner removed connectivity and head -in parking Petitioner also developed character of building architecture to north neighbors Dept Report, Christine B- Holmes: If favorable consideration from Committee, item would return to full Plan Commission for final vote Full Development Plan and ADLS would come for review with Site Design Current proposal is part of a PUD approved 4 years ago—balance of site would be developed as S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /Speci2lStudies /2009 /PC -SS dec 01 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 initially planned Number of dwellings increased from 80 townhomes to 196 apartments Little difference in building mass proposal includes several one bedroom units Dept continues to work with petitioner on conceptual site plan Neighbors to the north will be buffered with some pedestrian connectivity Dept recommends favorable consideration Committee Comments Site Plan tied to PUD conceptually Where is the parking Suggest buffering over connectivity Switch from townhomes to apartments--design difference Density not seen as an issue —will not affect neighbors to the north Design of building front favorable Future right -of -way may be a street Steve Hardin: Building parking to the rear and front streets head -in parking limited Parking in place for all units as drawn Actual acreage being expanded for units rather than retail Ordinance states 15 trees for every 100 feet —would bring back to full Commission if otherwise Dept, Christine Barton Holmes: Project has been through TAC review and emergency vehicle access concerns addressed Neighbors: Judy Hicks—proposal looks like it addresses connectivity and buffering— pleased with changes Jeremy Long—connectivity was biggest concern—proposal is excellent Dan Connor —would still prefer less dense population; would like to see more detail; does not understand need for clubhouse, given close proximity of Monon Center Motion: Woody Rider "to forward Docket No. 09090017 OA, 116 and College PUD (116 Street Centre, Ph 2) to the full Plan Commission with a positive recommendation." The motion was seconded by Madeleine Torres, voted 4 -0, Motion Approved. 6. Docket No. 09090018 CPA: 96 Westfield Subarea Plan Comprehensive Plan Amendment The applicant seeks approval to amend the Carmel Clay Comprehensive Plan (C3 Plan 2009), to adopt Land Classifications and a Subarea Plan for the 96th Street Westfield Boulevard Special Study Area, which is located south of 99th St. north of 96th St., east of the Monon, and west of Keystone Pkwy. Filed by the Department of Community Services, on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission. Present for Petitioner: Brad Johnson, Ground Rules Red, high lighted section of document reviewed with proposed changes. Non substantive changes can be addressed at a later date. S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /SpecialStudies /2009 /PC -SS dec 01 5 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Public Comments: Lucy Hunter wants sidewalks on north side of 96 Street because of trees Pat Rice different color on Wild Cherry Corners map legend John Tintera Favor with changes thus far No further public input closed Connectivity is a huge issue-2 lots deep from the north side of 96 Street. Residents want cul -de -sacs explored and street opening onto Westfield Boulevard via 99 Street. Residents favor a buffer in the form of a wall rather than earthen berm. Residents would like historic property preserved NOTE: Document is Conceptual, not final. 96 and Westfield Sub -Area Comp Plan Amendment was continued to the January 5, 2010 Special Studies Committee Meeting. Rick Ripma, Chairperson Ramona Hancock, Secretary S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /SpecialStudies /2009 /PC -SS dec 01 6 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417