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CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
THURSDAY, JANUARY 21, 2010
Council Chambers, 2nd floor
Carmel City Hall
One Civic Square
Carmel IN
6:00 pm
Members Present: Leo Dierckman, JayDorman, Brad Grabow, Judy Hagan, Heather
Irizarry, Nick Kestner, Kevin "Woody” Rider, Rick Ripma, Madeleine
Torres, Susan Westermeier
Members Absent: Steve Stromquist
DOCS Staff Present: Director Michael Hollibaugh, Angie Conn, Adrienne Keeling, Legal
Counsel John Molitor
Also Present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary
Swearing In: New Members Judy Hagan and Nick Kestner
Election of Officers and Appointments:
President: Leo Dierckman
Vice President: Rick Ripma
Member at Large: Judy Hagan
Appointment to BZA: Madeleine Torres
Appointment to Hamilton County Plan Commission: Sue Westermeier
The Minutes of the December 15, 2009 meeting were approved as submitted.
Legal Counsel Report, John Molitor: The Plan Commission has prevailed in the litigation involving
the Holiday Inn Express. The adversary declined to appeal the decision and the Carmel Plan
Commission decision is upheld.
Department Reports /Announcements, Angie Conn: The Carmel SmartCode Rezone item has been
Withdrawn. The SmartCode Ordinance Amendment will still be heard.
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Currently, no development plans for Lot #4
Lot #4 could be no more than single lot for single family home without going thru additional process
Single family home would require a permit from DNR for a driveway
No current plans -would require another public hearing process in future
Regarding Access: previous developer's proposal was for a road that would serve a public
purpose —this proposal is not the case.
Able to build in a flood plain as long as not built above base split elevation and can build a driveway
in flood plain for single family residential use
Dept, Angie Conn:
No opposition to Waivers requested
Outstanding issues with Carmel Engineering Dept re stormwater detention and sight /distance in
relation to driveway cut
Recommend referral to February 02 Subdivision Committee
Commission Comments /Questions:
Monies paid to City non reverting Thoroughfare Plan Fund —for a 10 -foot wide path or property all
the way to the Monon, even piece not owned?
Homes placed within the flood zone?
Where is Meridian Overlay boundary on the property?
Potential access to Lot 4 if combined with another project
No irrigation using City Water or possible self contained irrigation using recycled water on site?
Map should show where the US 31 Corridor line is located
Committee to explore commitment from petitioner as to one single family unit per lot in perpetuity
Response, Justin Moffitt:
City Engineering uses a formula based on number of foot frontage; property frontage is broken —City may
do a project in coming years and maybe use the funds to improve the entire side of the street. Lots 2 and 3,
the homes are placed out of the flood zone; Lot #1, placement shown is where we believe we can build once
the map is revised. Until the FEMA map is revised, would not build on Lot #1. The Meridian Overlay
slices through Lot 4 —yes, there could be access if combined with another project
Docket No. 09110035 PP, Reading Tree Park Primary Plat was referred to Subdivision Committee for
further review on Tuesday, February 02, 2010.
8. Docket No. 09120022 CPA: Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Thoroughfare Plan Map
The applicant seeks approval to amend the Thoroughfare Plan Map of the Carmel Clay
Comprehensive Plan (C3 Plan 2009). Filed by the Department of Community Services, on behalf of
the Carmel Plan Commission.
Present for Petitioner: Adrienne Keeling, Dept of Community Services
Overview:
Minor changes to Thoroughfare Plan Map
6 Items
Re- aligning the Legacy Development
Propose to extend Veteran's Way into First Avenue (through City Center, connecting down to
Carmel Drive
Grand Boulevard designation
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Add connection from Pennsylvania Parkway, curving north through the Browning Development into
Old Meridian
Addition of round abouts along 106 Street at Ditch, Town, and Shelborne Roads
96 Street and Commerce Drive, a round -about is proposed that should be added to the map
If recommended for approval, these changes will be forwarded to the City Council; if further review is
needed, referred to Committee.
Public Remonstrance: None
Public Hearing Closed
Commission Comments /Questions:
Do the map changes coincide with the Browning property and what is intended at that location?
Round -about at 96 Shelborne
Response, Adrienne Keeling:
The map changes reflect what is being proposed on the Browning site; no history on 96 Shelborne
round about —what is proposed is being designed by the County.
Motion: Jay Dorman "to suspend the Rules to vote on Docket 09120022 CPA, Comprehensive Plan
Amendment, Thoroughfare Plan Map," seconded by Woody Rider, approved 10 -0.
Motion: Jay Dorman "to approve Docket No. 09120022 CPA, Comprehensive Plan Amendment,
Thoroughfare Plan Map and send on to City Council," seconded by Woody Rider, approved 10 -0
I. Old Business
1. Docket No. 09090018 CPA: 96 Westfield Subarea Plan Comprehensive Plan
Amendment
The applicant seeks approval to amend the Carmel Clay Comprehensive Plan (C3 Plan 2009), to
adopt Land Classifications and a Subarea Plan for the 96th Street Westfield Boulevard Special
Study Area, which is located south of 99th St. north of 96th St., east of the Monon, and west of
Keystone Pkwy. Filed by the Department of Community Services, on behalf of the Carmel Plan
Commission.
Present for Petitioner: Brad Johnson, Ground Rules, Inc., Zionsville, Indiana.
Overview:
Petitioner appeared for Committee review three times
Buffer language has been clarified
Transition area added
Clarified redevelopment potential along Westfield Boulevard
Along 99 Street, a pedestrian facility should be recognized on the north side
Northern pedestrian facility should be the side path, the southern piece should be a side walk due to
the mature trees on the south side
Maple Street is now a non through street but made sure it was still a strong pedestrian connection to
99 Street
96 Street has been down graded in the Thoroughfare Plan from a Primary Arterial to a Primary
Parkway —still carries a lot of traffic but would have a green median
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