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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes BZA 08-23-99CARMEL /CLAY BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AUGUST 23, 1999 The regularly scheduled meeting of August 23, 1999 of the Board of Zoning Appeals was called to order with the Pledge of Allegiance at approximately 7:00 PM in the Council Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana. Members present were: Pat Rice and Charles Weinkauf The Mayor appointed Kent Broach as alternate to the Board in order to achieve a quorum for this evening's meeting. Kent Broach was administered the Oath of Office by John Molitor, counsel. The minutes of the meeting of July 28 were carried over to the September meeting for approval. John Molitor reported that the Plan Commission has been working on amendments to its Rules of Procedures. Upon adoption of the Plan Commission's amendment to the Rules, the BZA will review its Rules of Procedure in order to correspond with changes made by the Plan Commission. In addition, Mr. Molitor stated that the Plan Commission has asked the Department of Community Services to review the text of the various Overlay Zone Ordinances for U.S. 31, U.S. 421, and Keystone. The review is to determine whether or not there are provisions within those ordinances regarding development standards that the Plan Commission should have the authority to waive. In effect, this could lessen the workload of the Board if the Plan Commission amends the ordinances and the Council agrees to give the Plan Commission the authority to grant waivers from certain standards within those Overlay Zones. The Board will be up -dated on progress. Terry Jones introduced Laurence Lillig as the new City Planner in the Department. Pro Care Landscaping (UV- 31 -99) was inadvertently omitted from the Agenda and will be heard this evening as an Add -On Item. The public hearing remains open. Items 8h. and 9h. were TABLED BY THE PETITIONER. H. Public Hearing: lh. The Retreat (SU- 52 -99) Petitioner seeks approval (Special Use) to construct a multifamily residential development on 70 acres known as The Retreat. The site is located northwest of the intersection of Westfield Boulevard and E. 96 Street. The site is zoned 5- 2/Resideence. Filed by James Nelson of Nelson Frankenberger. S:\BZA\Minutes \1999aug 1 Jim Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, Carmel, appeared before the Board representing the applicant, Gibraltar Properties. Also present were Ed Elliott and Harry Todd. The residential community to be known as The Retreat will contain a series of residential buildings, each designed to simulate a luxury home uniquely arranged around an 8 acre lake and containing both public and private recreational components. The parcel was re- classified from S -2 to R -4 on August 2, 1999 with adoption of Ordinance Z -337 by the City Council. Both the Plan Commission and the City Council conducted public hearings on the rezone request. The site plan was displayed on the overhead projector. The 71 acre parcel has been identified as the "Fuller property." The perimeter boundaries of the real estate (with the exception of Vera Hinshaw's home to the north and the individual homes on the east side of Westfield Boulevard) are described by either recreational or vehicular or pedestrian corridors. To the north is the Sunrise Golfcourse; to the east is Westfield Boulevard; to the south is I -465; to the west is the Monon Trail and another small lake created with the construction of I -465. A small part of the real estate exists south of 465, triangular in shape, approximately 2.5 acres. The triangular portion of the real estate is not a part of the request for The Retreat and is intended to be dedicated to the City of Carmel as a Trailhead for the Monon Corridor. That commitment is set forth in the written commitments provided to the Department and the Commission members. The Retreat buildings are designed to simulate a luxury home, each building will contain between 6 to 8 leased apartment units. There are three different designs: the Estate, the Mansion, and the Cobblestone. The building materials will be predominately brick and stone and will exist within three color schemes. Overall, there are nine possible exterior views that provide an assurance of diversity as far as appearance. The points of ingress /egress are from Westfield Boulevard. Once within the site, the main focal point from the primary drive is the Community /Clubhouse facility. The Clubhouse will contain a swimming pool and other recreational opportunities that is a part of the Special Use request. The frontage on Westfield has been given special attention in regard to setbacks and landscaping. No building will be located nearer than 125 feet from the center line of Westfield Boulevard; within this area a landscaped corridor will be provided. A small neighborhood park is being provided in the southeast corner, approximately 3 acres in size. The park is being created by Gibraltar and is being made available to the public. The park will be offered to the Parks Department; however, if not accepted, Gibraltar's commitment is that it will continue as a neighborhood park maintained by Gibraltar. The internal roadway system is predominately east /west around the 8 acre lake. A primary feature of the plan is the pedestrian pathway that provides for pedestrian access S:\BZA\Minutes \1999aug 2 around the lake to the neighborhood park, and from the neighborhood park along the southern boundary over to the Monon Trail. Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to this petition; no one appeared. Terry Jones reported that all issues have been addressed at this time, and the Department is recommending approval. Pat Rice moved for the approval of SU- 52 -99, The Retreat. Pat Rice asked about lifeguards at the Pool. Mr. Nelson responded that a lifeguard would be on duty at all hours that the pool is open. The community is predominately older, and a very, very small portion of the population is children. However, there is a lifeguard on duty at all times the pool is open. The public hearing on SU -52 -99 was then closed. SU- 52 -99, The Retreat, was APPROVED 3 -0. 2h. Altum Gardens (SU- 53 -99) Petitioner seeks approval (Special Use) to provide an enclosed sales area and office for a landscape contracting business known as Altum Gardens. The site is located at 11335 North Michigan Road (US 421.) The site is zoned B -3 /Business and is located within the US 421 Overlay Zone. Filed by Adam L. DeHart of Keeler -Webb Associates. Adam DeHart, project manager with Keeler -Webb Associates, 486 Gradle Drive, Carmel, appeared before the Board representing the applicant. Approval is being requested for special use and amendment to the site plan previously approved in 1995 for Altum Gardens on Michigan Road. The request is to modify the Phase II portion of the project that is the eastern portion of the project. Altum Gardens is currently using the facility for a landscape garden/retail center and outdoor sales of landscaping and plant materials. Phase II has partially been completed in accordance with plans presented to both the Plan Commission and the BZA. All of the phase I area is currently being occupied and in use as shown. The northern portion of phase II is currently being utilized as a planting /storage material area consisting of gravel drives and trees and planting material still in ball and burlap to be installed in the sales area and gardening business. Originally, the plan called for some additional gravel areas; those areas have been asphalted with a hard surface. Also, the southeast portion of the property was to have been an 8,000 square foot storage/barn/office facility for the landscaping /contracting business. There was also an outdoor storage of bulk materials, approximately 3 to 4 times as large as that being presented this evening. S:\BZA\Minutes \1999aug 3 Overall, that portion of the property in the southeast corner being amended has been reduced by approximately 20% in regard to size and bulk outdoor storage. This facility will be used for enclosed storage of equipment and equipment repair. Some materials will be stored inside this structure during inclement weather and during the winter season. The structure will also function as an office for the landscape /contracting business and provide parking for the employees adjacent to the structure. There are previous commitments on the property. A variance was approved for pavement and curbing based on the fact that the majority of the eastern end of the property is not open to the public and is only used by the employees. The proposed building consists of 6,000 square feet of shop area and enclosed equipment storage area, and approximately 1200 square feet of general office to be used by the landscape business. The structure will consist of architectural metal wall panel on the exterior, and will be oriented so that the doors will face the employee parking lot and a small, bulk exterior storage area. The exterior lighting provides for wall packs to shine immediately in front of the man doors and overhead doors and will be used exclusively for security and for those times of the year that employees come and go at twilight hours. The plantings previously approved along the existing berm on the southeast portion of the property will be installed as a part of this project. Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one appeared. The Department reported no outstanding issues at this time and recommends approval. In response to Chuck Weinkaufs questions, Adam DeHart stated that the petitioner is planning to asphalt and concrete the employee parking lot lying east of the facility, but not curbing. The petitioner asks that they be subject to the previous variance that waived curbing. Kent Broach moved to approve SU- 53 -99, Altum Gardens. APPROVED 3 -0. 3h. Ameritech Tower (SU- 54 -99) Petitioner seeks approval (Special Use) to construct a wireless telecommunications facility consisting of wall- mounted antennae and an in- building equipment closet on the Northview Christian Life Church property. The site is located at 5535 East 131 Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence. Filed by Matthew M. Price, Esq. Matt Price, attorney with McHale Cook Welch, 320 N. Meridian Street, Indianapolis, appeared before the Board representing the applicant. Also in attendance were: Jane Hitch, manager of real estate and site acquisitions for the State of Indiana, Ed Dimenski, radio frequency design engineer for Ameritech, and Jim Finley from MagTech. S:\BZA\Minutes \1999aug 4 Initially, Ameritech proposed a monopole structure on the Carmel Dad's Club property and requested a Special Exception. At that hearing, it became clear that other avenues should be explored. Subsequently, a site not previously available became available and the Northview Christina Life Church site was pursued. The basic standard for granting a special use for an attached antennae facility is whether or not it is visually camouflaged or visually integrated with the existing building. Carmel's Ordinance encourages carriers to use existing buildings for antennae attachments. Ameritech is proposing to locate antennae on the Church property in such a way that there will be multi directional antennae to satisfy the radio design criteria and complete their infrastructure build -out in the Carmel /Clay zoning jurisdiction without any new support structure. The antennae panel will be cast and made to look like a split -face block, painted to match the Church building, and placed in an inconspicuous location. The Church has approved the antennae attachments to their building. The radio equipment is in a mechanical yard, completely out of view. There is no accessory building to be built outside the Church structure. The petitioner feels that the antennae is sufficiently camouflaged; it adds to the tele- communications infrastructure in the community; it is an economic benefit to the Church; and it utilizes an existing facility. The petitioner is seeking approval at this time. Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one appeared. Terry Jones reported that the petitioner worked with the Department in the placement of the antennae- -the Department is recommending approval at this time. Ameritech was commended for the location of the tower and working it out with the Church and the Department. The public hearing was then closed. Pat Rice moved for the approval of SU- 54 -99, Ameritech Tower, conditioned upon the withdrawal of SE -7 -99. APPROVED 3 -0. 4h. Carmel/Clay Schools Bus Maintenance Facility (SU- 55 -99) Petitioner seeks approval (Special Use) to construct a Facilities and Transportation building and additional parking known as the Carmel/ Clay Bus Maintenance Facility. The site is located at 5201 East 131 Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence. Filed by Rollin Farrand, Jr. of Carmel/Clay Schools. S:\BZA\Minutes \1999aug 5 William Evanston of Shankel /Shultz Architecture, 111 East Wayne Street, Suite 555, Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46802 appeared before the Board representing the applicant. Also in attendance was John Blankenship. Approval is being requested for a Special Use for the expansion and reconfiguration of the Carmel /Clay Schools Facilities Transportation building. The site is currently entirely on school property. The purpose is to accommodate the growth in the Carmel /Clay Schools, and improve the parking and function of the site that is also a shared use with other uses on the property. There is an existing, older building on the site that will be removed in its entirety and replaced with the new facility. The increase in the building size of the transportation building facility is the reason for the Special Use application. The site currently houses a bus parking facility with an existing transportation building, approximately 30 years old. This facility is to be replaced by the proposed facility. The School Administration Building is to the north. The interior of the area will be reconfigured to accommodate the re- routing of the school buses through the site and the existing road will be closed. Access through the site will be closed off and where the existing road is will be replaced with parking. The building itself is approximately 12,000 square feet as opposed to the 6,000 existing structure. The architecture consists of split -face concrete masonry units, metal siding, and raised panel metal roof. The access to the maintenance facility provides for three bays from the east and west elevations. Also contained within the building are offices for the facilities' management. The proposal has been reviewed by the Technical Advisory Committee. The storm water detention issue has also been addressed. Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the petition; no one appeared. Members of the public were invited to speak in opposition to the petition; the following appeared: Bill Mosbaugh, 5155 East 131s Street, Carmel 46033 expressed concern regarding setback requirements, drainage to the north that would affect Mr. Mosbaugh's property, and the lack of any proposed buffering. Security and site lighting are a concern as well as the noise factor, clean air quality, and odor of exhaust. James Rapala, 12883 Limberlost, Carmel 46033 expressed concern regarding the buffer along the tree line on the west side, the roadway access, and whether or not the current road will be a dead end and no through access permitted north/south from 126 to 131s Streets. The lighting is a concern, as well as the batting cage just to the south of the parking lot, noise from the P.A. System used for night games, existing dead trees in the current buffer. Mr. Rapala was concerned that the tree line would be diminished to increase the parking from 70 buses to over 100. S:\BZA\Minutes \1999aug 6 Barb Moneysmith, 12935 Limberlost, directly west of the existing building, did not have concerns about the new building; however, the concern is with the buses along the fence row. The buses are noisy from first thing in the morning until they exit on their routes. The exhaust fumes are overwhelming, even inside their home. A representative of the Transportation Dept. had told Mrs. Moneysmith a few years ago that the buses would be moved; to date, the buses have not been moved. The main concern is noise and air pollution. Tracey Durvey, 12865 Limberlost, shared previous speakers' concerns. Ms. Durvey was also concerned with the tree line to the west, the parking area, light spillage into her yard, the noise from the loudspeakers, and clarification for the road. Chuck Weinkauf commented that the questions regarding noise from the Public Address System were not pertinent to this particular petition. Mr. Evanson's rebuttal: The setback of the building either meets or exceeds the zoning requirements. A complete storm water management document was prepared and indicates that the proposed project would only increase the amount of runoff from the existing condition in a very minor way. The system in place was actually designed in anticipation of additional pavements in the area and has been reviewed by the Department of Community Services and the City Engineering Department for its completeness and correctness. The existing storm detention is to the northeast of the building. In regard to the screening, the tree line to the west is not intended to be removed in any way and there will be a continual program to improve the trees and density of the landscape buffer to the west. In regard to the lighting, there is some lighting that occurs on the building, however the lighting on the north side of the building was removed during the design process. Regarding the aspect of air quality and odors -there is a way to measure and respond to that question; however, it is so noted and the Transportation Facilities Department will take that comment very seriously and expect to address that as best they can. Again, the tree line to the west will not be removed as a part of this process; however, the dead trees are a maintenance issue. One of the goals of this project was to eliminate the existing roadway as a thoroughfare; the road will be closed off as a part of this project. John Blankenship, System Facility and Transportation Director, stated that he began employment on July first of this year. Mr. Blankenship was understanding of the residents' concerns and felt that something could be done with the lighting and the proposed facility in order to be good neighbors. All of the setback requirements meet the Ordinance The transportation facility will probably move away from the neighbors to the west. Mr. Blankenship was unsure if he was in a position to address the issues regarding the baseball field and batting cage, but did say he would accept phone calls at his office and work with the neighbors. There are no plans to remove any trees along the west property line. There is a lot of landscaping planned on the proposed building site. S:\BZA\Minutes \1999aug 7 Again, the goal is to close the existing roadway that is a privately held roadway, and reconfigure the existing parking. The traffic will be departing from the bus garage and the area to the north, however, the roadway will still be open from the south coming into the transportation facility for buses to return from routing. The normal flow of traffic will be from both directions. The road will be open partially to handle traffic from 126 partially from 131s Street, to handle traffic that is in attendance at various athletic events. By enlarging the parking area, the school is able to accommodate the staff and in the evening hours, parking is available for athletic events. Terry Jones commented for the Department. The Technical Advisory Committee was explained as far as dates, membership, and the scope of their review. The Building is 25 feet from the setback line and the Department cannot require more than the Ordinance requires. As far as lighting -the facility is required to be no more than point one foot candle at any property line with its lighting. The lighting can be addressed with a light meter measured by the Department. The Department had not been made aware of any noise and odor issues prior to this evening. Terry Jones suggested that the residents and School officials meet to work out these issues. Charles Weinkauf asked that the petitioner consider Tabling until some of the concerns expressed this evening could be addressed. The petitioner agreed to do so, and the public hearing was left open. Docket No. SU- 55 -99, Carmel/Clay Bus Maintenance Facility, was TABLED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 27, 1999; the public hearing remains open. At this point, the Board took a five minute recess. NOTE: Items 5h, 6h, and 7h were heard together but voted on separately. 5h. Duke Realty Seven Parkwood (V- 56 -99) Petitioner seeks approval of a Developmental Standards Variance of Section 17.4.3 of the Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance to allow for the construction of the Parkwood Seven Office Building closer than sixty (60) feet from the property line. The site is located at 280 East 96 Street and is within the Parkwood Crossing development. The site is zoned B-6/Business. Filed by Steve Granner of Bose McKinney Evans 6h. Duke Realty Seven Parkwood (V- 57 -99) Petitioner seeks approval of a Developmental Standards Variance of Section 27.5 of the Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance to allow for the amount of parking proposed for the Parkwood Seven Office Building to be 267 spaces where 288 spaces are required. The site is located at 280 East 96 Street and is within the Parkwood Crossing development. The site is zoned B -6 /Business. Filed by Steve Granner of Bose McKinney Evans. S:\BZA\Minutes \1999aug 8 7h Duke Realty Seven Parkwood (V- 58 -99) Petitioner seeks approval of a Developmental Standards Variance of Section 25.7.01. -2 to allow the proposed sign for the Parkwood Seven Office Building to have a logo which is greater than twenty -five percent (25 of the total sign area. The site is located at 280 East 96 Street and is within the Parkwood Crossing Development. The site is zoned B -6 /Business. Filed by Steve Granner of Bose McKinney Evans. Philip Nicely of Bose McKinney Evans, 8888 Keystone Crossing, appeared before the Board representing the applicant. Approval is being sought for Developmental Standards Variances as specified for Parkwood Seven Office Building within the Parkwood Crossing development located at 280 East 96 Street. Parkwood Seven is the last building to be developed by the partnership of Duke -Weeks Realty Limited Partnership and CSO Architects, known as Duke -Hawk LLC, who will develop Building Seven. CSO will be a tenant in Building Seven. The variances relate to setbacks, parking and the logo on the sign. Also in attendance were Alan Tucker and Kevin Foster of CSO Architects. The property has been developed over the last nine years. Building Seven is a three story, 86,000 square foot building and is the last within the development. The Plan Commission reviewed Building Seven for ADLS at its meeting in August and it was unanimously approved. The entire development, with the exception of the Indiana Insurance Building, is owned by Duke Weeks, the developer. Again, Building Seven will be owned by Duke and CSO. The first variance allows the building to be closer than 60 feet from the property line. The second variance relates to parking. Actual parking is 269 spaces; the requirement is 288 spaces. The petitioner is certain that 269 spaces will be adequate; however, if it is not sufficient, there is reserve space for additional parking to be provided. The third variance relates to the size of the logo. The ordinance specifies that a logo may not be greater than 25% of the permitted sign area. The permitted sign area for this development is 100 square feet. In this instance, the logo is greater than 25 square feet. The total sign area, which includes the logo and CSO is less than 100 feet (75 square feet) in size. The petitioner feels that the variances are not injurious to the health, safety and welfare of the community. The petitioner states that the building meets all appropriate codes; the parking needs of the tenants will be met; and the use and value of the adjacent property is not affected. The strict application of the ordinance does present certain practical difficulties in the sense that the sixty foot setback is a somewhat meaningless line in an internal development. Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the three petitions; no one appeared. The Department is recommending approval on all three petitions. S:\BZA\Minutes \1999aug 9 The public hearing was then closed. Pat Rice moved for the approval of V- 56 -99, Duke Realty Seven Parkwood. APPROVED 3 -0. Pat Rice moved for the approval of V- 57 -99, Duke Realty Seven Parkwood. APPROVED 3 -0. Pat Rice moved for the approval of V- 58 -99, Duke Realty Seven Parkwood. APPROVED 3 -0. Items V -59 -99 and V -60 -99 were TABLED at the request of the Petitioner. I. Old Business li. Ameritech Telecommunications Tower (SE -7 -99) WITHDRAWN BY PETITIONER 2i. Ameritech Telecommunications Tower (V -8 -99) WITHDRAWN BY PETITIONER NOTE: Items 3i through 7i REMAIN TABLED UNTIL REOPENED BY THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR ADD -ON Pro -Care Landscaping (UV- 31 -99) Petitioner seeks Use Variance approval to allow an office expansion to the existing facility. The site is located on the northeast corner of 98 Street and North Augusta Drive within the North Augusta Subdivision. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence and is located within the Michigan Road Overlay Zone. Filed by Lowell Rolsky of Pro Care Lowell Rolsky of Pro Care, 9801 North August Road, appeared before the Board seeking approval for a Use Variance for a storage facility. The time for the approval granted at the BZA meeting in January, 1998 has now expired. The building is an architectural steel, pole barn building utilized for materials and equipment storage. All other aspects of the Use Variance have been completed; this is the only facet uncompleted. An agreement was reached with a neighbor, Michael Norris, to accomplish visual screening through additional landscaping. S:ABZA\Minutes \1999aug 10 Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one appeared. The current building proposed is less expensive than that originally proposed in January, 1998, and the angle of the building has been changed. Mr. Rolsky stated that there was a written agreement between Pro Care and Michael Norris. Mr. Rolsky agreed to furnish a copy of the agreement to the Department. Pat Rice moved for the approval of UV- 31 -99, Pro Care Landscaping. APPROVED 3- 0. 8i. Lakes at Hazeldell Clubhouse (SU- 37 -99) Petitioner seeks approval to construct a private recreation facility in an S -1 residential district. The site is located at the intersection of Hazel Glen and West Lake Boulevard. Filed by Richard Henderson of The Schneider Corporation. Charlie Frankenberger, attorney with Nelson and Frankenberger, 3021 East 98 Street, Indianapolis, appeared before the Board on behalf of Zaring Homes. The applicant is seeking approval to construct a swimming pool and amenity area in a residential community known as the Lakes at Hazeldell. Also present on behalf of Zaring Homes were Robert Krohngold and David George. At the initial hearing, Zaring was requested to change the dimensions of its pool and to agree that a lifeguard would be present at all time the pool is open. Zaring is willing to comply with both conditions but asks for the following consideration: The problem with the reconfiguration of the pool is two -fold. The petitioner has already obtained from the State the permit for the original design. If reconfigured, the process would take an additional twelve weeks and out of the current construction season. In addition, Zaring has stated that they have designed a pool more for family and recreational purposes than competitive swimming; more for lounging than laps. In light of the hardship of waiting until next year's construction season, the applicant is asking the Board to reconsider their requirement. In regard to pool safety, in a pool of this size, the State has decided to remain silent and does not require a lifeguard. The Zoning Ordinance does not specifically address the issue. This is deemed to be a private matter. Residents would want the flexibility of enjoying the pool at will and not contingent upon the presence of a lifeguard. There are liability concerns and also concerns about how this requirement can consistently be applied to future pools. In short, the question is whether or not this is an area that we want to regulate. Based on the foregoing, the petitioner is asking that the Board reconsider its requirement of the presence of a lifeguard during pool hours. S:\BZA\Minutes\1999aug 11 Bob Krohngold, director of land development for Zaring Homes, 11300 Cornell Park Drive, Cincinnati, Ohio, appeared before the Board to again ask that they be allowed to develop the private community center the way they know it works, particularly in view of the time factor and the construction season. Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the petition; no one appeared. Charles Weinkauf commented that there is no Ordinance dictating the size of swimming pool facilities in relation to the number of households in a subdivision. The suggestion to the petitioner was to consider increasing the size of the pool for better use to the homeowners and to allow a neighborhood swim team, and inadequate safety as far as lifeguarding is concerned. Pat Rice also commented that she had little problem with the size of the pool but was mainly concerned about the safety issue and whether or not a lifeguard would be present during the hours of pool operation. The safety issue is clearly related to the health, safety and welfare of the community. John Molitor confirmed that there is no provision in the Carmel Ordinance or even State law that specifically addresses these types of issues. The petitioner is essentially agreeing to do whatever the Board requests in this area. Mr. Molitor suggested asking the developer to make a commitment to keep a lifeguard on duty as long as they are in charge of the homeowners association. After the Association is turned over to the Homeowners, it is a matter for the Homeowners Association to decide. Pat Rice moved for approval of Docket No. SU- 37 -99, Lakes at Hazeldell, contingent upon the size of the pool being a minimum of 25 yards in length or wide enough to adequately handle four lanes for competitive swimming, with the additional provision that the pool be guarded by adequate lifeguarding staff at all times the pool is open to the residents of the subdivision, and that this carries over to the residents at the time the homeowners of the subdivision take over the association. The Department is recommending that this Special Use for the Lakes at Hazeldell be moved forward- -there really is no recommendation on the conditions imposed by the Board. The public hearing on SU -37 -99 was then closed. Docket No. SU -37 -99 was APPROVED 3 -0. Terry Jones and John Molitor suggested that the Plan Commission could investigate the two issues previously expressed and perhaps draft an Ordinance if this is what the community wants. The size of a pool could be based on the number of lots in a Subdivision. Charles Weinkauf stated that the primary concern was safety. This discussion was postponed. S:ABZA\Minutes \1999aug 12 NOTE: Items 9i and l0i remain TABLED until reopened by the Director. Items l li through 13i were TABLED at the request of the Petitioner. 14i. Telamon Sign (V- 46 -99) Petitioner seeks approval of a Developmental Standards Variance of Section 25.7.02 -8(b) of the Carmel /Clay Zoning Ordinance to permit two signs on one frontage where only one is allowed. The site is located at 1000 East 116 Street. The site is zoned M- 3/Manufacturing. Filed by Larry Rodeman. Terry Jones reported that there seemed to be some confusion on Mr. Rodeman's part after receiving the Department's report. Mr. Rodeman thought the sign was automatically denied. Terry Jones stated that he would get in touch with Mr. Rodeman and that he be given an opportunity to appear at the September meeting. Kent Broach moved to TABLE DOCKET No. V -46 -99 until the September meeting. APPROVED 3 -0. There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 10:00 PM. Ramona Hancock, Secretary Charles W. Weinkauf, President S:ABZA\Minutes \1999aug 13