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CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
June 22, 2004
Minutes
The Carmel Plan Commission met at 7:00 PM in the Council Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana on
Tuesday, June 22, 2004. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance.
Members in attendance: Stephanie Blackman; Jerry Chomanczuk; Dan Dutcher (late arrival) Leo
Dierckman; Dianna Knoll; Mark Rattermann; Rick Ripma; Madeleine Torres; Susan Westermeier, thereby
establishing a quorum.
The Department of Community Services was represented by Jon Dobosiewicz and Angie Butler.
The minutes of the May 18, 2004 meeting were approved as submitted.
F. Legal Counsel Report, John Molitor A 'No-Action Agreement" is in the works for the
proposed rezone of the Earlham College property located near the intersection of 146 Street and River
Road. The proposed Agreement would postpone any hearing by the Commission until the month of
September. Mr. Molitor will continue to up -date the Commission on the progress of the Agreement.
G. Reports, Announcements, Department Concerns, Jon Dobosiewicz. The Clarian
North Hospital Expansion, Docket No. 04040042, has been requested for Tabling by the Petitioner
to probably August. (July is doubtful)
H. Public Hearings
lh. Docket No. 04040038 SP The Gray Estate, Lot 1
The applicant seeks to plat 1 residential lot. The site is located southeast of E. 131 st
St. and Gray Rd. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence Low Density.
Filed by Dennis Singer of Cripe Associates.
Dennis Singer, land surveyor with Paul L Cripe, Inc., 7172 Graham Road, Indianapolis 46250
appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. Ron Ferrand, Carmel Schools was also
in attendance.
The petitioner would like to plat a one -lot subdivision in conjunction of a proposed sale of 2.1 acres
of their total 5.4 acre -tract to the Carmel Clay Schools. The sale would leave a balance of acreage
less than the required metes and bounds property, and the petitioner would like to plat the property
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into one lot. The entire frontage would be dedicated for additional right -of -way on 131S Street.
The proposed platting maintains the suburban atmosphere of the property and is also beneficial to the
community due to the sale opportunity for the Carmel Schools to expand in this vicinity. There is
little to no impact for public utilities, transportation, drainage conditions, traffic, or other public
services. There are no new public improvements that will be built with this development other than a
sidewalk extension across the frontage of the property —also beneficial to the neighborhood.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Department Report, Jon Dobosieiwicz. In the absence of any additional comments that may be
addressed at Committee, the Department is recommending suspension of the Rules of Procedure and
final action this evening.
In response to questions from Jerry Chomanczuk regarding the intended use of the property by the
school system, Ron Farrand of Carmel/Clay Schools stated that currently, there are no plans for the
property. The ground was made available and is contiguous to school property; it seems prudent to
purchase the property.
Dianna Knoll moved to suspend the Rules of Procedure, seconded by Jerry Chomanczuk, Approved
8 -0.
Dianna Knoll made formal motion to approve Docket No. 04040038 SP, The Gray Estate, Lot 1,
seconded by Stephanie Blackman, APPROVED 8 -0.
2h. Docket Nos. 04030043 Z:
Dixie Highway Addition, lot 2 (pt) Yang Health Center
The applicant seeks to rezone approximately 0.2 acres from R -3 /Residence to B -1
Business. The site is located at 10640 N College Ave and is within the Home Place
Business District Overlay.
Filed by Dennis Lockwood of Mark Swanson Associates, Inc.
NOTE: Item 2i. under Old Business, (Docket No. 04030044 DP /ADLS, Yang Health Center.) was
heard simultaneously with Docket No. 04030043 Z.
Dennis Lockwood, architect with Mark Swanson Associates appeared before the Commission
representing the applicant. Mark Swanson was also in attendance.
The rezone petition for the property at 10640 North College is located just north of the intersection
of 106' and College Avenue, within the Home Place Business District Overlay. The property is
bounded by business to the south, duplex residential to the north and west, and the Clay Township
Government Center to the east.
The property is currently zoned R -3 Residential, and the rezone request is to B -1 /Business. The
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business classification would be consistent with the property to the south and also consistent with the
intent of the Home Place Business District.
The DP /ADLS and the rezone were reviewed by Special Study Committee on June 1S At that time,
the Committee requested some options regarding elevation and color selection. The floor plan has
not changed; the elevation facing College Avenue has been revised to allow for a gable extension
over the existing porch area to somewhat unify the front elevation. The building sign is to be located
on the east elevation above the windows and the gable to reduce the emphasis of the phone number
and provide more emphasis to the name of the building.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the petitions; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Department Reports, Jon Dobosiewicz. The rezone and the Development Plan were presented to the
Plan Commission for public hearing on May 18, 2004. There was a "glitch" in the notice for Rezone,
and that is why this item is on the Agenda for public hearing this evening. The Department is
requesting that the Commission suspend its Rules of Procedure and perhaps take final action on the
Rezone petition this evening and forward to the City Council with a positive recommendation.
On the DP /ADLS, the changes presented were discussed and negotiated at the Committee level, and
the Committee has forwarded a favorable recommendation on both the Rezone and the DP /ADLS to
the Commission. At this time, the DP /ADLS item would be appropriate for final action—no
suspension of the Rules of Procedure is necessary.
Jerry Chomanczuk reported for the Special Study Committee. The petitioner has cooperated on
several levels, particularly with the design of the building and the color. The original design proposed
a blue accent color —that color is now a standard white. The Department voted 4 -0 in favor.
Dianna Knoll moved to suspend the Rules of Procedure in order to vote on Docket No. 04030043 Z,
Yang Health Center this evening, seconded by Mark Rattermann, Approved 8 -0.
Jerry Chomanczuk made formal motion to forward Docket 04030043Z Yang Health Center, to the
City Council with a positive recommendation, AND approve Docket No. 04030044 DP /ADLS,
Yang Health Center, subject to final adoption of the Rezone by the City Council; seconded by
Madeleine Torres and APPROVED 8 -0.
3h. Docket No. 04040042 DP Amend /ADLS Amend:
Clarian North Hospital Expansion
The applicant proposes a hospital building expansion to the north. The site is located
on the northwest corner of 116th Street and US Highway 31. The site is zoned
PUD /Planned Unit Development within the US 31 Overlay Zone.
Filed by Joseph Scimia of Baker Daniels for Clarian Health Partners, Inc.
TABLED
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4h. Docket No. 04040041 DP /ADLS: Bauer Commercial Park- Tom Wood
The applicant proposes a automotive inventory parking lot. The site is located at the
southeast corner of Bauer and Marie Drives. The site is zoned B -3 /Business.
Filed by Larry Lawhead of Barnes Thornburg.
Note: Stephanie Blackman was recused from discussion and voting on this item.
Larry Lawhead, attorney with Barnes Thornburg, offices at 8900 Keystone Crossing and 11 South
Meridian Street appeared before the Commission representing Wood Land LLC. Michael Huff,
engineer was also present.
Wood Land is owner of a 2.9 one -acre parcel located at the intersection of Marie Drive and Bauer
Drive. Mr. Wood intends to use the property as a vehicle storage area. The site is east of Keystone
Avenue and directly north of the Mercedes Auto Dealership. The Pontiac /Acura dealership is to the
southwest and west, Enterprise Leasing is directly west of the site, a self storage facility to the
northwest, and next door is an additional area for the Mercedes dealership. The Indiana Basketball
Academy is to the northeast and there are commercial buildings to the east and southeast.
The proposed use is a storage area for the automotive uses of Tom Wood's dealerships in the
immediate area. The site will be a site to accept delivery of new cars and is designed to
accommodate car carriers to simplify and arrange for off loading on -site as opposed to being on the
road. There are two curb cuts —one along Marie Drive, one along Bauer Drive, and the purpose is
to make it simple for car carriers to get in and out and is designed with the car carrier size in mind.
The site is NOT open to the public—it is not a display area for a dealership, it is an area to accept
and store cars. There is no signage proposed and no lighting. There is, however, a retention pond on
site. Landscaping plans have been submitted to the Department; the plans are in conformance to the
Ordinance, and no variances are requested.
Pursuant to the request of the Department, the petitioner has submitted detail on the fence. The
fencing, pursuant to the request of TAC, is 6 feet tall, galvanized wire fencing, fused and bonded
with black vinyl coating. The fusing provides for a more durable, longer life and a higher quality of
fence for the area. The gates are electric and designed for safety access by the Carmel Fire Dept. In
response to correspondence with adjoining property owners, three telephone calls and three concerns
were received.
Drainage. The plans provide for a retention pond; the pond will actually improve drainage in the
area.
Parking off -site. A neighboring resident was concerned about persons parking on their property and
trying to walk over and look at the cars on the weekends. A fence around the entire site will prevent
this from happening.
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Site lines. A neighboring resident was concerned that his property would be hidden by possible signs
or buildings. There are no additional issues at this time.
Mr. Lawhead concluded by saying that the proposal meets the Ordinance in all respects, all TAC
issues have been addressed, and there are no additional concerns of adjoining property owners.
Remonstrance /Unfavorable:
Daniel Andres, 3595 East 98 Street, was concerned with traffic /test drives through his residential
street when cars are in for serve checks.
The public hearing was then closed.
Rebuttal: Mr. Lawhead responded that this facility would not be open to the public, it would
generate very low traffic, there will be car carriers, but they are designed to be off loaded on their
site —there should be very minim impact —this is not a dealership.
Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. The petitioner has addressed the concerns of the Department
through detail on the fence material. The Department recommends that this item be sent to the
Special Study Committee on July 6 for further discussion.
Jerry Chomanczuk asked about possible sign violations on site; Mr. Lawhead declined any
knowledge except for one sign that has been corrected.
Jon Dobosiewicz said the Department would look into the situation and report to the Committee.
Jerry Chomanczuk was also concerned as to whether or not the roads in this area are designed to
handle heavy traffic such as large delivery trucks —car carriers.
Mr. Lawhead said the area is being designed to accept the car carriers. It is a safety issue. The entire
design allows for delivery off the main road and that is preferred.
Mark Rattermann asked about parking bumpers around the perimeter and if so, what is the distance
between the bumpers and the fence? Also, will the proposed area be utilized in connection with the
current site due east from the Harley Davidson store? Mr. Lawhead's response was affirmative.
Mr. Lawhead deferred to Mike Hoff, Falcon Engineering regarding the parking bumpers.
Mike Hoff explained that the entire site is curbed and there will be no car bumpers on the lot —the
curbs are setback at least 14 feet from the fence (on the inside.)
Leo Dierckman asked if the Committee would review the possibility of inclusion in the policies and
procedures for employees not to take test drives north into the residential areas.
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Docket No. 04040041 DP /ADLS, Bauer Commercial Park, Tom Wood was referred to the
Special Study Committee for further review on July 6, 2004 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of
City Hall.
Note: Dan Dutcher entered the meeting in progress at this time.
5h. Docket No. 04040040 DP /ADLS: Carmax, Lot 2 Steak n Shake
The applicant proposes a restaurant with a drive -thru. The site is located on the
northwest corner of 96th Street and Gray Rd. The site is zoned B -3 /Business.
Filed by Mark Monroe of Drewry Simmons, Pitts Vornehm.
Mark Monroe, attorney with Drewry Simmons, Pitts Vornehm, 8888 Keystone Crossing, Indpls.,
appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. Also in attendance: Michael Crowley,
Assistant General Counsel with Steak `N Shake; Jay Kammeyer, Senior Construction Project
Administrator; and Jamie Shinamen, Project Engineer with Weihe Engineers.
The proposed restaurant is located at the northwest corner of 96 Street and Gray Road. To the
north and west is the Carmax Auto Dealership parking lot; to the east is Martin Marietta gravel
mining operation; to the south and across 96 Street in Marion County are two strip shopping
centers and other related out -lot operations.
The site and landscape plan has been filed with the Department of Community Services and provides
for an approximate 4400 square foot restaurant with adequate parking and landscaping. The
landscaping plan has been approved by the City Forester. The drive -thru is located on the back or
north side of the building.
The lighting plan and light fixture details are shown on the plan. There is no light spillage from the
site in excess of the Carmel Ordinance requirement. The light fixtures will be 20 feet in height and
dark bronze in color.
The restaurant design provides for stone and EFIS with a cornice element at the top of the building.
A material sample board was displayed showing the colors and samples of materials to be used. As
also shown in the drawings, three wall signs are included in the proposala Steak `n Shake sign on
the south elevation as well as the Steak `n Shake corporate logo on the west elevation. The third
sign is shown on the east elevation on the wall. Current plans are to forego the wall sign in exchange
for the black and white corporate logo on the western side. A variance will be filed with the BZA to
exchange the two wall signs, so, in the end, there will only be two wall signs for the restaurant.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or, or opposition to the petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Department Comments, Jon Dobosiewicz. As indicated by the petitioner, all TAC concerns have
been addressed. The Department did want to have the Plan Commission enter some discussion
regarding the location of the dumpster enclosure. Based on the proposed site layout, the location
proposed by the petitioner may be the most appropriate. However, the Department felt that some
additional discussion and /or renderings supplied by the petitioner would provide more detail in how
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the dumpster would be treated in both landscaping and matching the building elevations would be
appropriate in view of its location between the building and Gray Road.
An additional comment regarding the proposed sign on the west elevation: The Department felt that
more attention to detail should be paid in the design of the sign in order to provide something more
than a "plastic face within a metal cabinet." From the pedestrian perspective, it should be more
highly designed than proposed.
Stephanie Blackman questioned the lighting for the signage. Mark Monroe responded that the red
"Steak 'n Shake wall sign is internally illuminated; there is no outside light source.
Mark Rattermann said he had "serious concerns" regarding ingress /egress on this particular site.
Access westbound on 96 is right in/right out only. Mark was concerned about "U- turns." This is a
high traffic volume restaurant. There is no crossover access from 96 Street. There will be no traffic
light on Gray Road north of 96 to funnel traffic onto the access road to go to the restaurant—it is
close proximity to the traffic light at 96 and Gray.
Jon Dobosiewicz confirmed that 96 Street has a raised median. Traffic eastbound would turn onto
Gray Road and enter off the Gray Road entrance. There is no median planned for Gray Road
because there are not enough drive cuts for crossing at inappropriate locations. The engineering
department reviewed the development and felt it was appropriate to limit access to one location at
Gray Road.
Stephanie Blackman thought that traffic is more likely to head east on 96 Street, see that they
cannot cross, and then turn around in the parking lot at the strip mall on the south side of 96 Street,
then back to the intersection and head west on 96 Street. Stephanie Blackman was in support of the
"no curbcut on Gray Road" for this restaurant.
Jerry Chomanczuk asked the petitioner to submit more detail on the landscape plan, particularly
along Gray Road —this can be reviewed at Committee.
Docket No. 04040040 DP /ADLS, Carmax, Lot 2 Steak "n Shade was referred to the Special
Study Committee for further review on July 6, 2004 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
Note: The Committee is to especially look at ingress /egress; dumpster location; landscaping on Gray
Road elevation.
I. Old Business
li. Docket No. 04010001 Z; Dunkerly Property Rezone
The applicant seeks to rezone approximately 2.4 acres from R -1 /Residence to B-
2 /Business (with restricted uses). The site is located at the northwest corner of
Guilford Rd and 116th St.
Filed by Joseph Calderon of Ice Miller on behalf Mr.& Mrs. Dunkerly.
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Joe Calderon, attorney, Ice Miller; appeared before the Commission representing the applicant.
Greg Small, owner's representative; and Craig McCormick, Architect were also in attendance.
This site is being treated as a gateway to Carmel and is therefore something unique in design. The
applicant is aware of a number of roadway improvements proposed on 116 Street and Guilford.
The petitioner has appeared before Special Study Committee two or three times, and the plan has
been refined —both from the site plan and from building design standpoint.
Commitments have been made and are on file with the Department. The commitments reflect and
address the Department's Report. The project is something that the City can be proud of as well as
its citizens as one travels north from 116 on Guilford.
From a design standpoint, the buildings have been pulled forward, a pedestrian friendly situation has
been created with wide sidewalks above 116 and Guilford, and at the corner, a two -story element
has been added. The development contains both two story and one -story buildings as well.
This development is still a work in progress, however the commitments provide that the base line site
plan and elevations will serve as a template for the ADLS and Development Plan approval process.
Stephanie Blackman reported for the Committee. The petitioner started out with a very different
product. The petitioner has been very cooperative in making changes in design of the building and
moving the parking to the rear. The Committee voted unanimously to recommend approval.
Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. The petitioner is to be commended in working with the
Department and the Committee to come up with the current design. The Department is willing to
make a recommendation to forward this to the City Council with a favorable recommendation. The
amended commitments have been reviewed previously and are confident that they reflect the changes
requested by the Department.
Dianna Knoll made formal motion to forward Docket No. 04010001 Z, Dunkerly Property Rezone
to the City Council with a favorable recommendation, seconded by Mark Rattermann,
APPROVED 9 -0.
2i. Docket Nos. 04030044 DP /ADLS: Yang Health Center
The applicant seeks approval of a building addition. The site is located at 10640 N
College Ave and is within the Home Place Business District Overlay.
Filed by Dennis Lockwood of Mark Swanson Associates, Inc.
Note: Heard with item 2h., Docket No. 04030043 Z, Dixie Highway Additional, lot 2 (pt) Rezone
for Yang Health Center.
Approved Subject To City Council Approval of companion Docket No. 04030043 Z.
3i. Docket No. 04030046 DP Amend /ADLS Amend:
Carmel Industrial Park Engineered Cooling Systems
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The applicant proposes a building addition and additional parking. The site is located
at 201 West Carmel Dr. The site is zoned I -1 /Industrial.
Filed by Mark Swanson of Mark Swanson Associates, Inc.
Mark Swanson and Dennis Lockwood, architects with Mark Swanson Associates appeared before
the Commission representing the applicant. The petitioner proposes a 5,420 square foot addition to
the building and additional parking spaces. The petitioner appeared before the Special Study
Committee on June 1S and received a favorable recommendation. At this time, Mr. Swanson asked
for a favorable recommendation as well.
Committee Report, Jerry Chomanczuk. The petitioner addressed all of the issues on the expansion
and there are no outstanding issues. There was a commitment made by the petitioner to clear storage
items from the fence area. The proposed storage silo was an initial concern, and various sight -lines
were presented showing the impact to be minimal. The petitioner made a commitment that the silo
would be painted the same color as the building. The Committee voted 3 -1 in favor.
Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. The Department is recommending approval of this petition,
as amended.
Jerry Chomanczuk made formal motion to approve Docket No. 04030046 DP Amend /ADLS
Amend, Carmel Industrial Park, Engineered Cooling Systems, subject to commitments as
aforesaid, seconded by Rick Ripma, APPROVED 9 -0.
4i. Docket No. 04040016 DP Carmel Science and Technology Park, Blk 11, lots 2 -4
The applicant seeks to construct a street and three commercial lots. The site is
located just southwest of the intersection of Carmel Dr and Guilford Ave. The site is
zoned M- 3/1\4anufacturing Park District.
Filed by Mark Monroe of Drewry, Simmons, Pitts Vornehm for REI Investments.
Mark Monroe, attorney, Drewry, Simmons, Pitts Vornehm, 8888 Keystone Crossing appeared
before the Commission representing REI Investments and its Development Plan application for
Carmel Science Technology Park, Block 11.
The petitioner appeared at the June first Special Study Committee and received a unanimous positive
recommendation. The Department Report mentions a letter to the City Engineer regarding right -of-
way dedication; this letter has been prepared and submitted to the City Engineer.
Mike McBride, City Engineer, has approved the right -of -way dedication and the petitioner is making
the letter a part of the Development Plan approval. The letter has also been filed with the DOCS
staff.
Jerry Chomanczuk reported on behalf of the Special Study Committee. There were concessions
made by the petitioner and agreement finalized on this particular parcel. The vote was unanimous for
approval.
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Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. REI has made commitments regarding road improvements
on Guilford Avenue and Carmel Drive. REI will donate additional right -of -way at no expense to the
City on the south side of Carmel Drive and on the west side of Guilford Avenue. The City Engineer
has agreed to support an application to the Board of Public Works to allow the existing sign to exist
within the new right -of -way. The Department is recommending that the Plan Commission approve
the petition as amended. Note: This petition only establishes the Development Plan that allows for a
cul -de -sac to be constructed with access onto Carmel Drive and establishes future lots.
Mark Monroe distributed copies to the Commission members of the letter agreement between the
City and the applicant and summarized it for the benefit of the public.
Jerry Chomanczuk made formal motion to approve Docket No. 04040016 DP, Carmel Science
Technology Park, Blk 11, lots 2 -4, seconded by Dianna Knoll and APPROVED 9 -0.
J. New Business
lj. Docket No. 04040008 ADLS: Clay Terrace, Bldg G1
The applicant seeks approval of a retail building. The site is located southwest of US
Highway 31 and E. 146th Street. The site is zoned PUD- Planned Unit Development.
Filed by Fred Simmons of Simmons Associates.
Note: Mark Rattermann was recused from discussion and vote
Fred Simmons, architect, Simmons Associates appeared before the Commission representing Clay
Terrace. Also in attendance was Joe Downs of the Lauth Group.
The proposed building is a multi- tenant building that will have the same characteristics and
architectural style as the balance of the project. At the extreme south end of the development will be
a bank facility, and the other tenants are not yet known.
The architectural style, lighting, landscaping, etc. are consistent with the overall development.
Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. This item was presented to the Special Study Committee as
an informational item. This item does not require final action by the Commission—it is a non public
hearing item and can be approved this evening and that is the action recommended by the
Department.
Jerry Chomanczuk reported that the Committee had reviewed the proposed changes at the last
meeting. Most of the changes were found to be in character with the entire project. This particular
building is located on the southern corner, almost at the entry way to Clay Terrace. There was an
initial concern that this facility does not look like a bank that would fit just anywhere. However, the
design and materials will blend in with the overall project. The Committee unanimously approved the
ADLS.
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Jerry Chomanczuk moved for approval of Docket No. 04040008 ADLS, Clay Terrace, Building
G1, (Informational Item) seconded by Dianna Knoll and APPROVED 8 -0.
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned at 8:20
PM.
Leo Dierckman, President
Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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