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Home My WebLink AboutMinutes PC 02-17-09City of arme D10 CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION FEBRUARY 17, 2009 One Civic Square Carmel IN 46032 City Hall, 2nd Floor 6:00 PM Minutes Members Present: Leo Dierckman, Dan Dutcher, Brad Grabow, Kevin "Woody" Rider, Madeleine Torres, Susan Westermeier. Members Absent: Jay Dorman, Wayne Haney, Carol Schleif, Steve Stromquist DOCS Staff Present: Michael Hollibaugh, Director; Angie Conn, City Planner; John Molitor, Legal Counsel Also Present: Ramona Hancock, Secretary, Carmel Plan Commission The Minutes of the January 20, 2009 meeting were approved as submitted. Department Request, Angie Conn: "To allow Lakeland 2 -lot Subdivision, Docket No. 08100012 PP to be granted final approval by the Subdivision Committee." No support or motion—Request Denied. Department Reports /Announcements, Mike Hollibaugh: City of Carmel is doing a Downtown Master Plan and Smartcode Charrette beginning February 25 to March 2. Handouts were given to Plan Commission members —electronic distribution available as well. The February 25 date is the kick -off event at Carmel High School. This public effort is facilitated by Town Planning Urban Design Collaborative, LLC —consultant hired by the Department. Adrienne Keeling will be managing this project and will be communicating/updating Plan Commission members. Also, public workshops will occur per project schedule. The 1 S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /PC 2009/feb17 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Consultant Team consists of 11 members. The Smart Code is a brand based code that mixes graphics and texts. H. Public Hearings 1H. TABLED to MARCH 17: Docket No. 08110006 DP /ADLS: Greyhound Commons, Phase III Key Bank (Kite PUD) 70,rp erne L 0 r� en�� bank. The site is leeated at the southeast eofnef of446 St. and Lowe's Way. The site is zoned 4 pen PUD/P lanned 2 -311. TABLED to MARCH 17: Docket No.s 08110007 OA and 08110008 Z: Kite PUD Rezone, Expansion (Key Bank) The phea t seeks rezone a ,.,.a:,,, nee approval to expand Kite PUD Or-dinanee Z 3 4 4 00 to inelude 1.7 aer-es at the southeast of 1 4 6 S t.. fffind I e n s Way an to in e d ify te xt. The s is etiffen z o n ed 4/Residenee,pending PUD/Planned T� Development rezone. Filed by Paul Reis e Bose MeKinney Evans for- Kite Greyhound M, LLC 4H. Docket No. 08120013 DP /ADLS: The Barrington of Carmel (Park Place PUD) The applicant seeks site plan design approval for a continuing care retirement community (CCRC). The site is located northeast of 116 St Guilford Rd and is zoned PUD /Planned Unit Development. Filed by Greystone Communities on behalf of Mayflower Communities. Present for Petitioner: Dave Coots, attorney, Coots, Henke Wheeler; Mark Shegon, Director of Greystone Communities; Ben Deichmann, Roger Ward Engineering. Overview: DP /ADLS for 263 unit CCRC Property Zoned PUD (Park Place PUD) Unit Mix Modified Mix: 171 Independent Living, 44 Assisted Living, 18 Memory Support, 30 Skilled Nursing North Half of the development is Independent Living Southwest portion is Assisted and Memory Support Area Southeast portion is Skilled Nursing Southern —most entry designated for employees and delivery Main entrance aligned with boulevard on the west side of Guilford Road North entry aligns with an existing curb cut across Guilford Road Northern Entry used primarily for independent living residents with automobiles Parking garage accommodates 123 spaces underground 2 S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /PC 2009/feb17 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Surface Parking accommodates 250 spaces Total of 373 parking spaces meets the Ordinance Footprint of the building is 169 square feet, lot coverage for the 20 -acre parcel is slightly under 20% Building Materials: Cultured Stone and EIFS mix with dimensional roof in 3 -story design for independent and assisted living units; one story design for Skilled Nursing Care building Wood trim around doors and windows Fiber cement siding on gables and trim structure Decorative Railings and balconies as shown Guilford Road elevation will have breaks in frontage for non institutional appearance and utilization of landscaping materials Pre -Sale Efforts Mixture of components and appearance seemingly accepted by potential users of project. All heating and a/c are roof mounted behind 6:12 slope roof Buildings have appearance of truss roof design Heating and A/C units are behind peaks—no ground units exterior to the building Ground entrance for mechanical service is at east end of skilled care where there is a generator and indoor trash storage facility Overall landscape plan— concept plan previously approved in 2007 as Park Place PUD Current, revised landscape plan provides double the amount of plantings around facility Landscape drawings with species broken into quadrants for easy review Landscape plan exceeds requirements of the PUD Signage: Single Monument sign located at main entry off Guilford Sign ordinance permits 30 square feet, sign will be exterior -lit (no interior lighting) Landscaping at base of sign included in landscape chart Lighting: 4 types of fixtures Lighting photometrics meet requirements Fixtures in parking area are downlit, directional standards are 20 feet tall, S -3 fixtures 36 inches tall walkway lighting fixtures, drives are lantern style, 12 feet tall, located along entry way drive and into main portico Prior project plans were submitted —under Tab 10 Public Remonstrance— Unfavorable: Bill Roitan, 11710 Brockton Courts, Lenox Trace. In favor of progress but feels 116 Street and construction on Guilford are responsible for a lot of traffic. There is an existing 3 S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /PC 2009/feb17 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Convalescent Home on 116 Street, towards Meridian (Crown Point Convalescent). Guilford is a narrow road to carry the increased traffic. Are any improvements planned to the roadway? Public Hearing Closed Rebuttal, Dave Coots: Market Study shows demand for this type of facility 43 is peak number of employee shift change occurring at 9 and 5 base lots Proposed facility does not affect peak hour traffic Department Comments, Angie Conn: Petitioner says roof garden is an option, not "set in stone" Department is in favor of the proposed project after all issues addressed Department recommends forwarding to March 03, 2009 Subdivision Committee Commission Comments: Initial Concept approved 2 years ago Favor with Design of Project Tree Preservation Plan should be looked at by Committee Green Building Concepts? Public Notice given? Request Clarification on Roof Garden/Garden Carts Request Input from Urban Forester Prior to Committee Meeting Mark Shegon, Greystone Communities, Irving TX: Project is suburban and typically does not have a roof garden. Area reserved on landscape plan for garden plots. Assisted Living and Skilled Nursing Facility courtyards have garden carts if residents choose to use. Docket No. 08120013 DP /ADLS, The Barrington of Carmel (Park Place PUD) was forwarded to Subdivision Committee on March 03, 2009 for further review. I. Old Business 1I. Docket No. 08100011 DP Amend /ADLS: Weston Pointe Outlot 2 Firestone The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for an automobile repair facility. The site is located north of 11055 Michigan Rd. and is zoned B -2 /Business within the Michigan Rd Overlay Zone. Filed by Jamie Shinneman of Weihe Engineers for Firestone Service Center. Present for Petitioner: David Olson, Firestone; David Fisher, Amcon; Bob Backer, Weihe Engineers. 0 S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /PC 2009/feb17 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Overview: Petitioner has appeared at Special Studies Committee twice Petitioner has appeared at BZA for sign variance, building off -set, and landscaping Address Correction: 11035 Michigan Road Committee Report, Rick Ripma: Two review meetings at Committee Design of Building, Layout, Trash, OK Short on parking by Firestone Standards, but OK under Ordinance Committee voted 4 -0 positive recommendation Motion: Rick Ripma "To approve Docket No. 08100011 DP Amend /ADLS, Weston Pointe, Outlot 2, Firestone," seconded by Woody Rider, voted 7 -0, Motion Carried J. New Business 1J. Docket No. 08120012 ADLS: Carmel Executive Suites The applicant seeks design approval for a 3 -story office building. The site is located at 11708 N College Ave and is zoned B -2 /Business. Filed by Scott Yeager of Yeager Properties, Inc. Present for Petitioner: Scott Yeager, Yeager Properties, 23 South Eighth Street, Noblesville. Overview: Seeking design approval for 3 -story office building on 2.98 acres Building consists of 31,060 square feet Parking requirements1 per 250 square feet of space 126 parking spaces proposed Lot coverage and hard surface area is 71.3% hard surface, 22.7% greenspace area Existing utilities on site Drainage is under a current master plan Project will drain into Fertig Retention Basin Utilizing Water Filtration System and Bio- Swales Also utilizing rain gardens, uunderground perforated tile and impervious concrete Site Lighting—No issues Landscaping—currently working with Scott Brewer—believes plan complies with Ordinance Building Materials: north south sides, cast stone; brick, glass (windows) EIFS, aluminum panels EIFS color samples provided (5 options) Department Comments: Docket only requires ADLS approval 5 S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /PC 2009/feb17 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Recommend forward to March 03 Special Studies Committee Outstanding issues: 6 listed in Dept Report Recommend forward to March 03 Special Studies Committee Committee could take final action if Commission is comfortable with proposal Commission Comments: Concern with Design Design is "busy" mix of brick, aluminum, some design features unnecessary Concern regarding yellow accent feature in particular Urban Foresteriif not approved, request Scott attend Committee Department's opinion on Yellow design feature Request representation of other buildings completed by petitioner— submit location for viewing prior to committee Sign plan? Signs are different sizes of rectangle block —no unifying element Additional Dept. Comments Dept does not prefer yellow design feature Scott Yeager www.yeagerproperties.com to see representative buildings Two buildings in Fisher, one in Greenwood, one in Noblesville, one in Plainfield Refer Commission members to website www.yeagerproperties.com Sign lettering is black PVC, 1 /2 inch matte finish, each letter approx2 feet tall Docket No. 08120012 ADLS, Carmel Executive Suites was forwarded to March 03 Special Studies Committee for review. Meeting Adjourned at 6:55 PM. Leo Dierckman, President Ramona Hancock, Secretary C S: /P1anCommission /Minutes /PC 2009/feb17 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417