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City of Carmel
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
TUESDAY, AUGUST 18, 2009
6:00 PM
Council Chambers, City Hall
One Civic Square
Carmel IN 46032
Members present: Leo Dierckman, Jay Dorman, Dan Dutcher, Brad Grabow, Kevin
"Woody" Rider, Rick Ripma, Carol Schleif, Susan Westermeier
Members absent: Madeleine Torres; Steve Stromquist
DOCS Staff Present: Director Michael Hollibaugh, Angie Conn, Adrienne Keeling; John
Molitor, Legal Counsel
Also Present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary
The Minutes of the July 21, 2009 meeting were approved as submitted.
Legal Counsel Report, John Molitor: Reminder of Executive Session immediately following conclusion of Plan
Commission meeting to discuss pending litigation.
Dept Announcements, Angie Conn: Item 71-1, Carmel SmartCode Rezone, requires suspension of the Rules of
Procedure due to type of mailing of Public Notice —first class rather than certified —and signs and banners placed
at key locations and public facilities instead of being placed on each affected parcel.
G. Public Hearings
111. Docket No. 09050023 Z: Rezone, Old Meridian Main. The applicant seeks approval to
rezone the southwest corner of Old Meridian St. Main St. from OM /SU -Old Meridian District
Special Use to OM/MU -Old Meridian District Mixed Use. The site is located at 12960 Old
Meridian St. Filed by Matt Worthley for the Carmel Redevelopment Commission.
Present for Petitioner: Matt Worthley, Carmel Redevelopment Commission
Overview:
"CRC" is requesting a rezone of Old Meridian Main
Rezone to OM/MU, Old Meridian, Mixed Use would provide maximum use for property
Rezone makes sense for this site when taking surrounding uses into consideration
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Dept Report, Angie Conn:
Petitioner would like to stay within the Old Meridian District zoning
Sub category would change from Special Use to Mixed Use but change sub -zone
Recommend suspension of Rules of Procedure and forward to City Council
Recommend positive consideration
Public Remonstrance:
None
Public Hearing Closed
Commission Members Discussion:
One -half Church property included in Lot 21?
Uses—Exclude Party Hall and Night Clubs?
Response, Matt Worthley:
Thought that Church property was included
CRC would like retail on the first floor /mixed use
Cannot commit to exclude certain uses
Docket No. 09050023 Z, Rezone, Old Meridian Main was referred to the Special Studies
Committee for further review on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
MOTION: Carol Schleif "to re -Order the Agenda and hear item 7H at this time, out of sequence." The
motion was seconded by Sue Westermeier, voted 8 -0. Motion Approved
24H. Docket No. 09060012 PP Amend: CW Wiedler's Sub Division, lots 69 -71 (Blackwell Park)
The applicant seeks primary plat amendment approval to create 8 lots and 1 Common Area from 3
lots on 2.2 acres. The applicant also seeks these subdivision waiver requests:
Docket No. 09060013 SW SCO Ch. 6.03.04 -05 extension of stub street
WITHDRAWN. Does t No. 0906001 4 SW SCO Ch 6.03.06 road w w idth .e.
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The site is located at 3rd Avenue NE 3rd Street NE. The site is zoned R -2 /Residence. Filed by
Gregory Ilko of Crossroad Engineers, PC for Justin Moffett Jeff Langston.
Present for Petitioner: Justin Moffitt and Jeff Langston, developers; Greg Ilko, Crossroads Engineering
Overview:
Subdivision to be called Blackwell Park
Request approval to create 8 lots and 1 Common Area
Property consists of 2.2 acres, adjacent to the Old Town Overlay
Petitioner will abide by Old Town Overlay Guidelines, Chapter 23 of Zoning Ordinance
Each individual lot will have site design review process with the Planning Staff prior to issuance of
Building Permit
Waiver requested for extension of stub street due to taking of right -of -way that is not a part of the plat
Neighbors do not want Sylvan Lane to be extended because of proximity to the High School and drop -off
traffic
Dry Detention Basin is consistent with Carmel Stormwater Ordinance
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Details of Plat, Greg Ilko, Crossroads Engineers:
Replat of lots 69, 70, and 71 of CW Wiedler's Subdivision
Common area suitable for dry detention basin in southeast corner of property
Propose to extend the cul -de -sacan extension of Third Ave NE into the development and maintain the
name of the street as well
Petitioner will continue to work with Engineering and Urban Forester for acceptable site plan
Public Remonstrance, Favorable:
David Leazenby, 664 Second Avenue NE, Carmel. In process of building house to the north of this site
and expressed support to Plan Commission for investment and redevelopment in the neighborhood —not
just to improve residential areas of Old Town but projects like this. Residential investment in Old Town
ultimately helps the commercial investment on Main Street. The more people investing, the more people
living and residing within walking distance of Main Street that ultimately helps the viability of restaurants
and other shops. Detention Basin—depth, etc. safety should be considered —City Engineer's decision
Jeff Watkins, 131 Third Street NW, near Monon Trail, hopes this will pass —likes the type of product
planned for this area. The more people that live there, the most will invest in the neighborhood and the
more businesses will reap the benefits.
General Public Comments /Unfavorable:
Tammy Myko on behalf of her mother who resides at 310 Second Avenue NE. Concern is with the type of
home to be built and the common area on such a small lot. Also a concern with impact on property value
and protecting the neighborhood.
Public Hearing Closed
Rebuttal, Justin Moffett:
Plat complies with the Subdivision Control Ordinance
Petitioner has committed to build using Old Town Overlay Guidelines
Anticipated price point of homes $350,000.
Development will consist of custom homes
Detention basin will be DRY
Dept Report, Angie Conn:
Outstanding issues —Dept of Engineering Tree Preservation
Cul -de -sac vs hammerhead
Intent is to develop the street and extend to the north if north parcels are developed in the future
Recommend forwarding to September first Subdivision Committee for further review
Petitioner has committed to comply with Old Town guidelines
ADLS approved administratively inside the Overlay
Commission Comments:
Re Tree Preservation —would like to see inventory, lot -by -lot basis
Request value of properties in surrounding area
Provide detail on wooded area and detention area
Proposed product to be built will increase home values and quality of neighborhood
Current proposal is for fewer lots than initial proposal
Maximum height —one and one -half stories
Preservation Objectives —Best Management Practices—recommend inserting language re putting fence at
drip -line of the trees
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Request review of covenants, mix of plans, and how form, style, and variety of homes will fit in with
neighborhood
Homeowners Association? (Yes—required due to common area —will simply maintain the pond in
accordance with Carmel's Stormwater Ordinance)
Petitioner will not have separate entry monument and will flow easily with Old Town
Request more detail as to how detention pond will be utilized —more than just a visual amenity
Note: Surrounding area property values to be researched and submitted by Dept at Committee level
Docket No. 09060012 PP Amend, CW Wiedler's Sub Division, lots 69 -71 (Blackwell Park was referred to the
Subdivision Committee for review on September first, 2009 in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
John Molitor noted that the Committee does not have authority to approve a Subdivision Waiver for Subdivision
Control Ordinance Chapter 6.03.04 -05 (Docket No. 09060013 SW) although it does have authority to approve the
Plat Amendment.
Motion: Brad Grabow, to forward Docket No. 09060013 SW, SCO Ch. 6.03.04 -05 Extension of Stub Street, CW
Wiedler's Sub Division, Lots 69 -71 (Blackwell Park) to the Subdivision Committee with delegated authority."
Motion seconded by Woody Rider, Voted 8 -0 Motion Carried
5H. Docket No. 09060011 DP /ADLS: Roberts Camera. The applicant seeks site plan and design
approval for a multi- tenant retail/office building. The site is located at 12773 Old Meridian St. just
north of Grand Blvd. The site is zoned OM/MU Old Meridian District Mixed Use Zone. Filed by
Matt Griffin of Providence Commercial Partners, LLC (Buckingham Companies).
Present for Petitioner: Jim Shinaver, attorney, Nelson Frankenberger; Matt Griffin, Buckingham Companies;
Bruce Pohlman, owner of Roberts Camera; Rich Kelly, Engineer, EMH &T.
Overview:
Request Development Plan and ADLS approval
Building to be built by Buckingham Companies
Building to be owned operated by Roberts Camera
Proposed facility will provide needed increase in space
Proposed building will be consistent and compatible with existing buildings
Building materials —stone and brick
Windows will have canvass awnings
Brick color selection for proposed building will match one of six already utilized/existing
No outstanding landscape items approved by Scott Brewer
Building design incorporates many green, sustainable design elements
Petitioner seeking a Sign Variance for a Blade Sign
Matt Griffin, Buckingham Companies:
Proposed building adds another piece to the Providence development
Request consideration for waiving Rules and voting this evening
Bruce Pohlman, Roberts Camera:
Owner, Roberts Camera
Carmel Resident for 30 years
Current Store in Carmel for approximately 10 years
Current Lease coming to an end
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Need is for more space
Public Remonstrance: None /Public Hearing Closed
Department Report, Angie Conn:
Last Minute comment from Engineering regarding Road Discrepancy —can work out administratively
Outstanding comments regarding north and south building elevations—hoping for brick patterning or faux
windows to break up blank walls
Recommend forwarding to Special Studies Committee for further review on September first OR affirming
this evening
Commission Comments:
Given Track Record of Buckingham, no problem supporting a vote this evening
Confirm with Scott Brewer that trees at front of building will not grow to block sign —otherwise, choose
another species signage extremely important
Design of building seems somewhat blank— request more detail
Roberts Camera needs a bigger space —great store —needs to stay in Carmel
Mullions and window treatment, especially above and maybe horizontally below--could be more interest in
that area
Building looks "monolithic"
Suggest vary parapet/roof line
Suggest incorporate shrubs around trash enclosure
Building location at round -about is an awkward site —may be an opportunity to break up west fagade and
fit the building to the curve of the round -about
Important to maintain the continuity of Providence
Note: Revised Renderings to be submitted to entire Commission prior to Committee meeting on September first.
Motion: Brad Grabow "to forward Docket No. 09060011 DP /ADLS, Roberts Camera to the Special Studies
Committee on September first with full authority for final approval." Motion seconded by Woody Rider, voted 8 -0.
Motion Carried
6H. (TABLED to SEPT. 15) Docket No. 09060007 Z: Rezone, 146th Cherry Tree
Th pi;, an t seeks a pprov al •1„ r ezon e the s u -th st e amer- of i n 6 th 94 k C__h ff fy Tree Rd
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S l/Residenee to B !/Business (with limited !and uses, and for- aveter-inai=y effiee). The si
leeated a4 14590 Cheffy Tree Rd. Filed by Juer-gen Sommer- of Cellier-s Tufley Maftin Ttteker-.
7H. Docket No. 09070013 Z: Carmel SmartCode Rezone. The applicant seeks to amend the
Official Zoning map of Carmel and Clay Township to include the proposed SmartCode. The area
included in the rezone is north of 116"', east of US 31, and west of Keystone Avenue. The zones to
be added to the zoning map include T1/Natural Zone, T2 /Rural Zone, T3 -E /Sub -Urban Estate
Zone, T3 -L /Sub -Urban Large Lot Zone, T3 /Sub -Urban Zone, T4 /General Urban Zone, T5/Urban
Center Zone, T6/Urban Core Zone, and SD /Special District. Filed by the Department of
Community Services, on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission.
Note: The Agenda was re- Ordered to hear Item 7H out of sequence, immediately following item 1 H.
Motion: Kevin "Woody" Rider "to suspend the Rules of Procedure regarding public notice
accomplished by regular mail rather than certified mail —and Signs and banners being placed at key
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intersections and public facilities instead of being placed on each of the affected parcels." The motion
was seconded by Jay Dorman, voted 8 -0. Motion Approved
Present for Petitioner: Adrienne Keeling, Department of Community Services. Also present: Bill and
Brian Wright, Town Planning Urban Design Collaborative.
Overview:
SmartCode was talked about in June and July —text has been available on line
SmartCode continues at Subdivision Committee level
Current hearing is for the zoning map that is companion piece with text of the Ordinance
Petitioner does not anticipate any decision or vote this evening regarding map
Petitioner proposes map be sent to Committee so that Map and Ordinance may move through the
process simultaneously— Committee, full Commission, City Council
Still a work in progress with additional meetings to be held
Request Commission send Map to Subdivision Committee
SmartCode is still in the Public Hearing Process
Existing properties will remain as is unless there is a substantial change
Existing properties would be rezoned in the event of substantial change /modification to the
property or a redevelopment
SmartCode available on the web at www.carmelsmartcode.com
Public Remonstrance, Favorable —None
Public Organized Remonstrance, Unfavorable —None
Public Remonstrance, General Unfavorable:
Kathryn Kunz, appearing for her Mother, Patsy M. Kunz, owner of the property at 613 E Carmel
Drive, present site of Burger King. Concern: New zoning will limit uses in the event Burger
King either decides not to continue its operations at this site or to make "substantially changes" to
the restaurant building. Also concerned that development standards proposed under new zoning
proposal would require special use approval for a drive -thru and signage. The overall concern is
the impact of proposed rezone and ability to re- develop site. (Comments submitted in writing)
John Neeley, 4076 Black Willow Ct, Zionsville. Concern regarding verbiage "substantially
improving." The language is vague and there is no way to establish the "nature of the
neighborhood" —does not want to demolish and start over. Without establishing the nature of the
neighborhood, there is no ability to expand an existing business— sub -use is counter productive to
maintain a business on site and allow for growth.
William Wendling, attorney, Campbell, Kyle Proffitt, 11595 North Pennsylvania, Carmel,
appeared before the Commission representing the Gradle family and their property which is an
Industrial Use. The present Industrial Zone has several permitted and special uses —would like
consideration for Special Uses and "other industrial applications" within that zone classification.
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David Leazenby 664 Second Avenue NE, spoke mostly in FAVOR. As more development
occurs, the Rezone is a great way to manage and control growth. Most zones appear to be
designed and crafted very well for development, density, and growth for the City. For all central
areas of Carmel, the rezone provides an upgrade in the ability for builders and developers to
provide new buildings and greater use of the land; however, in the T -3 Zone in Old Town, it
seems to be the exact opposite. Maybe the vision has not been explained —would like this area
looked at and more thoroughly explored.
Joyce Pierson, 117 Lexington Boulevard— suggested that due to the importance of this matter,
future letters should be sent certified mail rather than first class. Regarding the map colors
cannot be readily distinguished —could be more easily seen. Requests an explanation of Home
Occupation under T -3 zoning; also frontage and fence types in T -3. Will areas be changed in
years to come and if so, what would be the process /criteria, and who would have the say in
making the change?
Jean Ridgecreek, I I I Shoshone Drive, (T -3) is unclear about the desire in maintaining the
character of an area and requests clarity regarding live/work—is there any kind of live /work that
is not permitted? It sounds as if there is no limitation and an entire neighborhood could go
commercial. If someone has their business in the home where they live and they cease to live
there, it is now a commercial structure—is that permitted? Also unclear is the Open Market
Building concept—it sounds as if a neighbor could build an overhead cover and operate a flea
market in their yard —and that would be permitted. What kinds of business and uses would NOT
be permitted in T -3 zone? Also, what is the plan for density of the alternative uses in what has
been, since the 40's, a residential use?
Public Hearing Closed
Rebuttal: Bill Wright, Town Planning Urban Design Collaborative. Regarding the vision for
neighborhoods: One of the over riding concerns that has been expressed over and over is the protection
of character of primarily single- family neighborhoods. The T -3 Zone is what most people think of as
suburban, single- family neighborhoods. It has already been decided that there will be no live /works in T-
3, it will be single family structures. There will be no commercial in a T -3 Zone; there may be a corner
store at the edge of T -3, but that would be the extent. The Code promotes positive form, walk- ability,
and protection of the neighborhoods. An open market building would be like a Saturday Farmer's
Market.
Brian Wright, Town Planning Urban Design Collaborative.
All conventional zoning maps use the same colors and they have become corrupted over time;
there could be some obvious improvement in differentiation in each zone
Substantial improvements are actually defined in the definitions section of the SmartCode.
Regarding the Burger King drive -thru, there are several Overlay Zones within the City that
prohibit drive -thru facilities
Input from residents says that physical form of the City is important— automobile- oriented drive-
thru facilities are not
If existing suburban sprawl model were kept in place and Burger King was asked not to have a
drive -thru, it would be a problem
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In creating a walk -able, mixed -use, vibrant, pedestrian friendly community, the drive -thru has an
adverse effect
Home occupationa residence first and foremost—requirement regarding square footage,
limitation on signage and number of outside employees— definition in Chapter 3 of Existing
Zoning Ordinance —also a section in Chapter 25
All of the text is On -Line
Adrienne Keeling regarding I -1 Industrial Zone:
Many uses are allowed in the I -1 Zone
Existing Industrial Areas were designated either T -5 or T -6 depending on location
Some Uses allowed by Special Use, not necessarily by right
The Form of the building is as important as the Use
Special consideration can be given to use
Department Report, Angie Conn:
Recommend referral to September first Subdivision Committee
Commission Comments:
Eliminating a drive -thru will kill the fast food
Could be "grandfathered" to provide a drive -thru
There should be certain areas that would allow drive -thru
Would not vote for this because it would eliminate a drive -thru
Eliminating drive -thru could be a health issue
Any place to plug -in hybrid vehicles?
Docket No. 09070013 Z, Carmel SmartCode Rezone was referred to the Subdivision Committee for
further review on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 at 6:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
Note: Additional Public Comments will be heard at the Committee Level.
I. Old Business
1 -2I. Docket No. 09050022 ADLS: Meridian Main Medical Office Building (Parcel 4)
The applicant seeks design approval for a medical office building and surgery center and also seeks
the following zoning waiver:
Docket No. 09060008 ZW ZO Ch. 23B.08.05.B: maximum first floor gross floor area
The site is located northeast of 131 St. US 31 and is zoned B-6/Business within the US 31
Overlay. Filed by James Browning of Browning Investments, Inc.
Present for Petitioner: Fred Simmons, Simmons Architects, 305 East New York Street, Indianapolis; Jamie
Browning, Browning Investments; Chris Cutriff, Indiana Spine Group (primary tenant.)
Overview:
Special Studies Committee concerned about appearance from US 31 of dumpster enclosure and generator
enclosure (made of same, pre -cast materials)
Urban Forester recommended difference species than originally shown
At full maturity, shrubs will grow 12 to 14 feet— lumpster enclosure height is 15 feet
Rendering submitted showing the view from US 31
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Revised landscape plan approved by Scott Brewer
Site is located at northeast corner of 131S Street and US 31
Single Tenant Building
Zoning Waiver for maximum first floor gross floor area (ambulatory surgery and imaging
Committee Report, Rick Ripma:
Favorable comments from Committee on the building
Committee priority was screening mechanicals from view
Petitioner complied with all requests from Committee
Committee voted 4 -0 for approval
Department Report, Angie Conn:
No outstanding issues
Recommend positive consideration
Commission Comments:
Favorable regarding form of building, changing cascading
Going for LEED certification? (No)
Motion: Rick Ripma, "to approve Docket No. 09050022 ADLS and Docket No. 09060008 ZW, Meridian and
Main Medical Office Building (Parcel 4. Motion seconded by Susan Westermeier, voted 8 -0. Motion Approved.
3I. Docket No. 09070002 OA: Exterior Lighting:
The applicant seeks to Amend Chapter 8: Standards of Required Improvements of the Subdivision
Control Ordinance, Chapter 19: B-8/Business District, Chapter 20G: Old Meridian District,
Chapter 2313: U.S. Highway 31 Corridor Overlay Zone; Chapter 23C: U.S. Highway 421
Michigan Road Corridor Overlay Zone, Chapter 23D: Old Town District Overlay Zone, Chapter
23E: Home Place District Overlay Zone, Chapter 23F: Carmel Drive Range Line Road Overlay
Zone, Chapter 23H: Monon Greenway Overlay Zone, and Chapter 25: Additional Use Regulations
of the Zoning Ordinance in order to consolidate and modify exterior lighting
regulations /requirements. Filed by the Department of Community Services, on behalf of the
Carmel Plan Commission.
Present for Petitioner: Christine Barton Holmes, Dept of Community Services.
Overview:
Consolidation of 10 different Ordinances into one to make it more user friendly for staff as well as public
Amendment will require LED's or similar lighting throughout the City of Carmel
Will affect Subdivision Control Ordinance for street lighting and residential lighting —will not affect
sports facilities.
Amortization period of 10 years before all outdoor lighting is to comply with the Ordinance
Amendment provide that any structures, major additions or alterations would have to comply within one
year for a full lighting plan
Providing for zoning waiver for any changes up to but not greater than 35%
Lighting requirements scattered in 10 different Ordinances will be in one spot
Lighting will be as strict as all existing standards
Amendments takes all different elements from Old Town, Old Meridian, and US 31 and brought them into
one place that will apply City -wide
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Committee Report, Carol Schleif:
Committee thought the proposal was a great idea
Committee voted unanimously to recommend approval
Commission Comments:
Kelvins (warmth element) not regulated
Currently there are no communities that regulate Kelvins
Can be looked at on an issue -by -issue basis for color temperature of the bulbs
Make Sense for all lighting in any one given project to be of same rating or color warmth?
Christine Barton- Holmes:
Will add language
Can stipulate within any given project that lighting will be of the same rating or color warmth
Motion: Brad Grabow "to forward Docket No. 0907002 OA, Exterior Lighting to the City Council with a positive
recommendation, subject to inclusion of language to standardize the Kelvin rating or color warmth within any given
project or petition." Motion seconded by Jay Dorman; voted 8 -0. Motion Approved.
J. New Business
1J. Docket No. 09060015 ADLS: Hamilton Crossing West, Bldg 5 ITT Parking Expansion
The applicant seeks site plan approval for a parking lot expansion. The site is located at 13000 N
Meridian St. and is zoned B-2/Business within the US 31 Overlay. Filed by Jon Sheidler of
Woolpert for ITT Educational Services, Inc.
Present for Petitioner: Jon Sheidler, Woolpert Engineering.
Overview:
Project located at 13000 North Meridian Street, within US 31 Overlay
Project is an expansion of the existing parking lot of Building 5 —ITT Educational Services Administration
Building
Site is a 2.24 -acre parcel, northeast corner Hamilton Crossing West, directly north of building 5
Parcel defined in conjunction with the required right -of -way for proposed US 31 and 131S Street
interchange
Design coordinated with INDOT
Future right -of -way line of INDOT requires matching northern and eastern boundaries of this site
Site includes 151existing parking spaces—an additional 180 spaces are proposed —total of 331 spaces
upon completion
Two rows of large, mature trees exist running n/s through the middle of the site
Parking layout designed to preserve majority of trees
Landscape Plan has been approved by City Forester
Parking Lot expansion interrupts an existing asphalt path bordering Hamilton Crossing; path is now re-
routed within greenbelt area
Parking lot lighting will match existing fixtures
Drainage from expansion is included in master plan for Hamilton Crossing at time of development
Department Report, Angie Conn:
Most every Dept has signed off on this project
DOCS has 4 outstanding, minor comments
Commission can approve with conditions applying to comments
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Commission Member Comments:
What tree saving practices are being utilized— during construction and after?
Explanation of re- routed walking path
Any landscaping on existing path to be mimicked on new, expanded portion
Petitioner says he fully intends to preserve trees--curb line is set back to drip line of trees and working with Scott
Brewer to preserve trees
Petitioner says new requirements for buffer plantings along US 31 and 131S Street require much denser plantings
and he is in full compliance
Motion: Woody Rider "to suspend the Rules and vote on this item this evening." Motion was seconded by Brad
Grabow, voted 8 -0, Motion Carried.
Motion: Woody Rider "to approve Docket No. 09060015ADLS, Hamilton Crossing West, Building 5 —ITT
Parking Expansion." Motion was seconded by Susan Westermeier, voted 8 -0. Motion Carried
K. Adjourned to Executive Session at 8:10 PM
Leo Dierckman, President
Ramona Hancock, Secretary
Filename: PC- 2009 -0818 updated
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