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Home My WebLink AboutMinutes SpecStdy 01-06-09of CA �VNONE y�A C i t y R TOMORROW o /NDIMAN CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE TUESDAY, JANUARY 6, 2009 CARMEL CITY HALL ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL IN 46032 6:00 PM Minutes Committee Members Present: Wayne Haney, Woody Rider Rick Ripma, Susan Westermeier DOCS Staff Present: Director Michael Hollibaugh Christine Barton Holmes, Rachel Boone Legal Counsel John Molitor Also Present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary The Special Studies Committee considered the following items: 1. WITHDRAWN: Docket No. 08100018 ADLS Amend: Weston Park Signage The applieant seeks approval fef the new design of two pfeviously appfeved multi tenant gfound signs. The site is leeated at 10574 Workout Way (southwest eemef of Miehigan R nth St) and i zon 1 i in the U S n2 i O f Filed by Amand Gatos of Si r ft industr 2. Docket No. 08040008 ADLS Amend: Circle K/Shell Motion: Sue Westermeier "To Dismiss Docket No. 0804008 ADLS Amend, Circle K/Shell for lack of prosecution under the Plan Commission's Rules of Procedure," seconded by Woody Rider, approved 4 -0. Motion Carried. 3. Docket No. 08080020 ADLS: Hotel Indigo The applicant seeks design approval for a 5 -story hotel building. The site is located northeast of 131 St. US 31 and is zoned B -6 /Business within the US 31 Overlay. Filed by Jay Gibson of CDG Consulting, Inc. S/ P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommittee /2009/j an06 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Present on behalf of Petitioner: Jay Gibson, CDG, Indianapolis; Jim Donahue, Architect. Overview: Petitioner provided Dept with info regarding landscaping, parking, and lighting Original light poles were 25 feet tall plus a 2 -3 foot base Petitioner lowering poles by 2 feet —now reduced to 25 feet or lower (including base) Working with Cripe Browning regarding bio- detention area Patio enclosed by low fence (rendering shows US 31 in background) Patio use restricted to hotel patrons only Color rendering of hotel displayed Letter from Tim Dora of Dora Bros. distributed regarding mural/sign Mural deemed public art Plan for art contest spelled out in letter Review of Art by Arts Council with formal approval by Special Studies Committee Dept Report, Christine Barton Holmes: Floor area/parking ratio within maximum EIFS in US 31 Overlay not specifically exclude but not explicitly permitted either— Committee to determine Landscape plan not yet approved Recommend forward to full Commission with positive recommendation after outstanding issues addressed Committee Comments: Outdoor retention treatment on project to the south sets the bar high What is of EIFS compared to balance of structure? Is Variance required for EIFS setting a precedent? Approved Landscape Plan? Parking Requirements? Signage? Final approval of public art? Petitioner Response: Bio- retention facility planted with wetland plants throughout and is part of actual overall infrastructure. Project to the south is an office building Petitioner will preserve tree area Bio- retention approved with PUD —Scott Brewer trying to ensure everything satisfactory Petitioner purchasing this site with infrastructure in place Scott Brewer working with Cripe and landscape architect Landscape design pending —not approved as yet —being "hammered out" Petitioner will apply for signage prior to full Commission Jan 20 EIFS limited to walls of balconies, slim recess at end of hallways and at top color -band cornice S/ P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommittee /2009/j an06 2 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Arts Council would over -see art contest Department Response: Use of EIFS is trim piece rather than major component True Stucco is satisfactory and more durable Mike HollibaughEIFS not considered a high quality material No approved landscape plan Parking based on square footage, use, and employee use at peak times Petitioner will meet parking requirements or file for a Variance Rachel Boone —all signs need BZA variance for size and number; petitioner would return to Commission for design approval BZA to review signs on February 23r Committee would have final approval of "public art" after review and approval by Arts Council Committee Additional Comments: Recommend final landscape plan be approved by Scott prior to being heard at Committee /Commission Request signs for review be submitted in proposed size Wall sconces security lighting detail provided? Signage must have Committee /Commission approval Note: Petitioner is requesting favorable recommendation this evening on everything with exception of signage Motion: Sue Westermeier "To forward Docket No. 08080020 ADLS, Hotel Indigo to the Plan Commission with a positive recommendation with the following conditions: 1) approval of landscape plan prior to full Commission meeting on January 20; 2) BZA approval of size of signs and return by petitioner for sign approval; 3) NO EIFS on the building," seconded by Wayne Haney, voted 4 -0 Motion Carried 4. Docket No. 08100011 DP Amend /ADLS: Weston Pointe Outlot 2 Firestone The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for an automobile repair facility. The site is located north of 11055 Michigan Rd. and is zoned B -2 /Business within the Michigan Rd Overlay Zone. Filed by Jamie Shinneman of Weihe Engineers for Firestone Service Center. Present for Petitioner: Dave Fisher, Amcon Design; Jamie Shinneman,Scott Rucker Weihe Engineers. Overview: Dumpster enclosure gate and doors will match color of overhead door. Correct drawings submitted Bike parking located in island between parking area—vertical area intended for bike parking Revised plans and elevations submitted S/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2009/jan06 3 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Site plan within Weston Pointe included with revised packets —shows location of Firestone store within development Landscape plan also included with revised submission —bldg elevations as well Jamie Shinneman: Overall landscape plan for Weston Pointe included in submission 30 foot greenbelt already installed along 421 Petitioner seeking landscape variance -to be heard at BZA on Jan 26—regarding perimeter plantings Hamilton County Surveyor approval received from Bob Thompson and Greg Hoyes —sent to Angie Conn Overall landscape to be submitted with next submittal Ballards are "Firestone Safety Yellow" Mechanical equipment located at the "L" of the building and hidden by dumpster enclosure. Sill not be visible from Michigan and /or drive thru of mall retail area Rachel Boone, DOGS— reports there is no sign application on file for this project Firestone will file with BZA for Sign variances—no directional signs, no multi- tenant ground signs Jamie Shinnamen reported that the additional 4 parking spaces have not yet been included in the plans (Firestone favors 10 parking spaces per bay--40 in this case) Tire recycling located in the interior of bldg Department Report, Christine Barton Holmes: Most all outstanding issues addressed Signage approval— number and square footage— outside purview of Committee Petitioner to include location of mechanicals on site plan Recommend forwarding to full Commission with positive recommendation Additional Committee Comments: Not in favor of yellow ballards —color should match building Request signage representation Suggest Tabling until signage detail submitted Motion: Sue Westermeier "To Table Docket No. 08100011 DP Amend /ADLS, Weston Pointe, Outlot 2, Firestone until a full sign package is presented to Committee for approval," seconded by Woody Rider, voted 4 -0 Motion Carried. Meeting Adjourned at 6:45 PM Rick Ripma, Chairperson Ramona Hancock, Secretary S/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2009/jan06 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417