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Home My WebLink AboutMinutes SpecStdy 09-01-09G\ P 4 RTNERy -j OF CAP FoRT�n� City of arme /ND I AN P CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 2009 Caucus Rooms, 2 Floor Carmel City Hall One Civic Square Carmel IN 46032 6:00 PM Members Present: Rick Ripma, Kevin "Woody" Rider, Heather Irizarry, Sue Westermeier Members Absent: Madeleine Torres DOCS Staff Present: Rachel Boone, Christine Barton Holmes, Legal Counsel John Molitor. Also present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary The Special Studies Committee considered the following items: 1. Docket No. 09070012 ADLS Amend: Salin Bank ATM (The Fountains) The applicant seeks approval (for signage) for an ATM to be placed in a parking island. The site is located at 452 E. Carmel Dr. It is zoned B -8. Filed by Amanda Gates of Sign Craft. 2. Docket No. 09080017 ADLS Amend: Salin Bank Night Deposit Surround The applicant seeks approval for a Night Deposit Surround to be placed on the south facade of their tenant space at The Fountains. The site is located at 452 E. Carmel Dr. It is zoned B -8. Filed by Amanda Gates of Sign Craft. Note: Items 1 and 2 were heard together. Present for Petitioner: Andrew McQueenie, Sign Craft Industries Overview: Petitioner seeking approval to install signage on free standing, ATM Kiosk ATM Kiosk located in island at The Fountains ATM Structure approved at previous Committee meeting Petitioner also seeking approval for Night Deposit Surround Signage in stride with Satin Bank branding and imaging Signage is under 3 square feet Petitioner feels night deposit surround has more aesthetic appeal with canopy S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommitte /PC -SS 2009 septOl ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Dept Report, Rachel Boone: Petitioner returning to show final ATM signage Each sign is less than 3 square feet—allowable without permit under Ordinance ATM structure approved at last meeting Night Deposit surround —brick has been repaired and filled in Dept concerned about impact of large, blue, surround and the necessity Would like size of surround reduced Committee Comments /Questions: Canopy is teal color —does not match Satin signage Standing Seam is teal green Seams would be better if wider and not as long Would like to see brick repair covered Looks patchy —agree with previous comments regarding brick repair Motion: Woody Rider "to approve Docket No. 09070012 ADLS Amend, Salin Bank ATM signage (The Fountains) and Docket No. 09080017 ADLS Amend, Salin Bank Night Deposit Surround." Motion seconded by Heather Irizarry, voted 4 -0, Motion Carried. 3. Docket No. 09080018 ADLS Amend: Zotec Carmel Ice Skadium The applicant seeks approval for 1 new wall sign, 4 new directional signs and new /updated exterior building color. The site is located at 1040 3 rd Ave. SW. It is zoned I -1. Filed by Jeff Law of Zotec Partners. Present for Petitioner: Jeff Law, Zotec, 11460 North Meridian Street; Doug Staley, Staley Signs Overview: Propose One new wall sign for Carmel Ice Skadium—adding Zotec Partners" Wall sign on Front (east) Elevation 4 New Entry /Exit signs Painting front elevation to upgrade look of building Dept Report, Rachel Boone: Petitioner adding Zotec Partners name to Carmel Ice Skadium sign Petitioner painting east face only of building Directional signs will match wall sign colors —tan, red and blue Directionals are 3 square feet Wall sign is 93 square feet, under size allowed by Ordinance Wall Sign is Flush Mount —LED illuminated, Channel Letters Dept is in favor of request Green Window Mullions not great but will leave up to Committee Committee Comments /Questions: From a marketing standpoint, "Carmel Ice Skadium" could be bigger S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommitte /PC -SS 2009 septOl 2 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Building blends with industrials Logo should be an after thought Concern that Zotec over powers Ice Skadium Concern that Ice Skadium recognition lost in Zotec sign Doug Staley's response, Will Maximize entrance /exit signs Will make "Carmel Ice Skadium" bolder—lessen Zotec Colors in sign (green, tan blue) match colors in building Signs are internally illuminated Signs utilize LED lighting on building sign only —not directionals Motion: Woody Rider "to approve Docket No. 09080018 ADLS Amend, Zotec Carmel Ice Skadium." Seconded by Heather Irizarry, voted 3 in favor, one opposed Westermeier) Motion Carried 4. TABLED to OCT 6: Docket No. 09030012 ADLS Amend: Midwest Eye Institute dir@6tional gfound sign. The is Yee at 03 S 31 t. i s zon B 3 /B ess Filed b Charles Hunt of United Sign And Awning. 5. Docket No. 09070024 ADLS Amend: Xpress Tobacco Outlet Signage The applicant seeks design approval for 1 new wall sign. The site is located at 438 S. Range Line Rd. and is zoned B -2 within the Carmel Dr. /Range Line Rd. Overlay. Filed by Chetankumar Patel. Present for Petitioner: Chetankumar Patel Overview: Petitioner requests approval for one new wall sign Building located at 438 South Range Line Road Tobacco Outlet selling cigarettes, tobacco, and soft drinks Dept Report, Rachel Boone: Simple request —small sign Outdoor vinyl letters applied to outside of building Drive -up facility (drawings provided) Traffic will flow thru site, short stacking —quick drives only Dept is fine with sign as is Dept recommends favorable consideration Motion: Woody Rider "to approve Docket No. 09070024 ADLS Amend, Express Tobacco Outlet Signage." Motion seconded by Sue Westermeier, voted 4 -0 Motion Carried 6. Docket No. 09080010 ADLS Amend: Weston Shops Signage The applicant seeks design approval for 1 new ground Complex Identification sign. The site is located at Michigan Rd. and 106 St. (on the north side) and is zoned B -2. Filed by Don Miller on behalf of the owners, JC Partners, LLC. S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommitte /PC -SS 2009 septOl 3 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Present for Petitioner: Don Miller, Sign by Design, on behalf of JC Partners LLC Overview: Petitioner proposes illuminated ground monument sign Monument sign will show tenants in Weston Shops Sign will show 6 tenants on each side Ground sign needed for visibility —trees block center Dept Report, Rachel Boone: No variances needed All tenants represented on sign Sign is set back 5 feet from right -of -way Petitioner has worked with Hamilton County and Township about the sign Sign is internally illuminated All tenants listed in same font, same colors Motion: Sue Westermeier "to approve Docket No. 09080010 ADLS Amend, Weston Shops Signage." Motion seconded by Woody Rider, vote was 4 -0, Motion Carried 7. Docket No. 09080011 ADLS Amend: First Financial Bank Signage The applicant seeks design approval for 2 new wall, 1 new /updated ground, and 2 updated directional signs to reflect the name change from Irwin Union Bank to First Financial Bank. The site is located at 751 City Center Dr. and is zoned M -3. Filed by Timothy Hoskins of Triangle Sign Company. Present for Petitioner: Tim Hoskins, Triangle Sign Company, 221 `B" Street, Hamilton, Ohio 45013 Overview: First Financial purchasing Irwin Union Bank Replacing existing signage —total of 5 signs Installing two sets of LED illuminated channel letters on east west elevations Changing faces in existing double -face illuminated ground sign Re- facing two non illuminated directional signs Colors: Blue LED —flush mounted on east elevation -blue during the day and blue at night; sign on west side is black during the day, white at night; ground sign background will be opaque night and day Ground sign letters are push -thru acrylic; connection hidden in continuous raceway on back side of wall Dept Report, Rachel Boone: Change in Bank name —new signage Signs fit within size requirement of Ordinance Worked with Department on making wall signs appropriate sizes and readable Directional signs OK—no issues Tim Hoskins stated that First Financial has recently purchased 19 Peoples Bank and 3 Irwin Union S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommitte /PC -SS 2009 septOl 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Banks Motion: Woody Rider "to approve Docket No. 09080011 ADLS Amend, First Financial Bank as Presented." Seconded by Sue Westermeier, voted 4 -0. Motion Carried 8. Docket No. 09050023 Z: Rezone, Old Meridian Main The applicant seeks approval to rezone the southwest corner of Old Meridian St. Main St. from OM /SU -Old Meridian District Special Use to OM/MU -Old Meridian District Mixed Use. The site is located at 12960 Old Meridian St. Filed by Matt Worthley for the Carmel Redevelopment Commission. Present for Petitioner: Les Olds, Executive Director, Carmel Redevelopment Commission and Matt Worthley, also Carmel Redevelopment Commission. Overview: Request Plan Commission consider rezone—Apostolic Church on southwest corner of Main and Old Meridian Proposed land exchange with VFW Uses: Retail, residential, mixed use Plans are to redevelop with RFP include design concepts (notions) and use would be retail residential, with parking behind. The CRC would usually ask to rezone to C2 district. Staff rec Meridian Overlay Zone to Mixed Use to Spec Use. CRC going along with rec. Require developer to follow regulations, CRC would retain right for design control and oversight of project. Site plan change —City Engineer requests reconfigure at 131S Street and round about —would provide at no cost to City additional row for road changes. Will meet with developers in next 60 days. RFP will be explicit—building will be created equally on all 4 sides and certain materials will not be permitted. Dept Report, Christine Barton Holmes: Dept in support Commission Comments /Questions: Request that building be "wrapped" Tavern or Night Hall use? Definition? Lot 21 included or not? Director CRC, Les Olds: RFP will be explicit building will be created equally on all 4 sides and certain materials will not be permitted. Lot 21 is a corner piece—included in the petitioner—is an old remnant of service station negotiated for purchase by City. Lot 21 is included in the site design and zoning request. Motion: Woody Rider "to forward Docket No. 09050023 Z, Rezone Old Meridian Main, as presented, to the full Commission with a positive recommendation." Seconded by Sue Westermeier, voted 4 -0 Motion Carried. S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommitte /PC -SS 2009 septOl 5 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 9. Docket No. 09060011 DP /ADLS: Roberts Camera The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a multi -tenant retail/office building. The site is located at 12773 Old Meridian St. The site is zoned OM/MU Old Meridian District Mixed Use Zone. Filed by Matt Griffin of Providence Commercial Partners, LLC (Buckingham Companies). Present for Petitioner: Jon Dobosiewicz and Jim Shinaver, Nelson Frankenberger; Matt Griffin, Buckingham Companies Overview: Revised renderings submitted to all Plan Commission Members Faux Windows added Trees screen dumpster height Engineering has no major issues No County Highway or Surveyor issues Committee Questions /Comments: Tree Species is a concern—blocks signage and bldg facade Prefer Urban Forester recommend new species of trees Faux windows add more visual interest on north and south elevations Signage allowed at north end and front of bldg A general Concern of the Committee is that required trees will block signage and building fagade at mature growth; the concern will be referred to Scott Brewer, Urban Forester. Motion: Sue Westermeier "to approve subject to final approval by the Urban Forester that species of trees won't ever block signage and building facade." Motion seconded by Heather Irizarry, voted 4 -0. Motion Carried. Rick Ripma, Chairperson Ramona Hancock, Secretary S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommitte /PC -SS 2009 septOl 6 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417