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Home My WebLink AboutMinutes SpecStdy 10-06-09G\ P 4 RTNERy -j OF CAP FoRT�n� City of arme /ND I AN P CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE OCTOBER 6, 2009 CAUCUS ROOMS, 2 nd FLOOR CARMEL CITY HALL ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, IN 46032 6:00 PM Members Present: Heather Irizarry, Woody Rider, Rick Ripma, Madeleine Torres Members Absent: Susan Westermeier DOCS Staff Present: Christine Barton Holmes, Rachel Boone; Legal Counsel John Molitor Also Present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary The Special Studies Committee considered the following items: 1. Docket No. 09080028 ADLS Amend: Turkle Associates Signage The applicant seeks design approval to relocate a wall sign from the SW corner to the south fagade of the building. The site is located at 11455 N. Meridian St. and is zoned B-6/Business within the US 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by Amanda Gates of Sign Craft Industries on behalf of Turkle Associates. Present for Petitioner: Dave Knowland, Sign Craft Industries, Dave Kublee, Turkle Associates Overview: Propose to relocate current Turkle wall sign from west corner to south fagade of the building Visibility of any sign on east elevation would be limited due to mature trees Upon completion, there will be a sign on the west side, south side and southwest corner Dept Report, Rachel Boone: Recently a Variance was approved to permit an additional sign on south fagade rather than east fagade Re- positioning signs allows for a new tenant Turkle sign will face south Department supports the relocation and positioning of the signs Motion: Woody Rider "to approve Docket No. 09080028 ADLS Amend, Turkle Associates Signage." The motion was seconded by Madeleine Torres, voted 4 -0. Motion Approved Docket No. 09090019 ADLS Amend: West Carmel Center, Blk B, Lot 1 Ameriana Bank The applicant seeks approval to modify the landscape plan remove some plant material. The site is S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes/ CommitteeMinutes /SpecialStudies /2009 /PC- SS- 2009oct 06 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 located at 3975 W. 106"' St. and is zoned B-5/Business. Filed by Alan Armstrong for Ameriana Bank. Present for Petitioner: Alan Armstrong, A.J.Armstrong, Inc., 320 North Meridian Street, Indianapolis; Al Williams, Vice President and Security Officer for Ameriana Bank, 1908 Bundy Avenue, New Castle, Indiana. Overview: Ameriana location was previously location for Union Federal/Sky/Huntington Bank Site is just east of Michigan Road on 106' Street, east of Walgreens Ameriana Bank is headquartered in New Castle and is expanding franchise Ameriana is a small Indiana Bank moving into the Indianapolis market place and surrounding areas Ameriana is at a great, competitive disadvantage due to lack of visibility of building Petitioner has met with Urban Forester representative, Daren Mindham Possible solution would be to trim evergreens up 3 to 6 feet from the bottom Petitioner proposes to replace with additional shrubs to match existing species Petitioner proposes to eliminate trees and replace with shrubs Security Concerns, Al Williams: Site purchased in winter season Completed Site Survey shows a lot of foliage Visibility is a major security concern Currently an increase in crime in some areas Concern would be for employees who would park at east end of lot where there are three, very large evergreens for screening Trees along the north side that run cast/west, parallel to 106' Street block the window areas If ever a hostage situation, trees would block visibility of law enforcement officials Department Report, Christine Barton Holmes: Request filing fee from petitioner (delivered on spot) City does not regard replacing trees with shrubs as a one to one replacement—petitioner would need to file for a variance Deadline for filing for a variance is Friday, Oct 9"' for November Docket Urban Forester also mentioned "tidying up and limbing up" existing trees 3 to 6 feet Very little landscaping work has been done in the year the site has been vacant Tidying Up would increase visibility, would be aesthetically pleasing, appropriate for the trees, and would create needed visibility Needs to be some sort of compromise with Urban Forester regarding the removal of evergreens Dept understands and recognizes need for visibility and safety however, City does have landscaping standards Some of the older sites do not have the same standards regarding landscaping; newer sites do conform to City standards Dept suggests tabling until variance or landscaping issue is decided Committee Comments /Questions: Other sites in the area do conform to the City standards Petitioner was aware of location/visibility before purchase of facility Committee Requests more information before voting What is the current tree count Trimming from the bottom up is a "stupid" solution, although you do have to put something back on the site S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes/ CommitteeMinutes /SpecialStudies /2009 /PC- SS- 2009oct 06 2 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Petitioner is willing to work with the Dept on tree count and will submit a tree /landscaping proposal Motion: After discussion regarding landscaping and safety /security issues, Woody Rider made formal motion "to TABLE Docket No. 09090016 ADLS Amend, West Carmel Center, Blk B, Lot 1, Ameriana Bank to the November 3, 2009 Special Studies Committee meeting." The motion was seconded by Heather Irizarry, voted 4 -0 Motion Carried 3. Docket No. 09030012 ADLS Amend: Midwest Eye Institute Signage (Springmill Medical Office Building Phase II) The applicant seeks approval for a new directional ground sign. The site is located at 200 W. 103 St. It is zoned B-3/Business. Filed by Charles Hunt of United Sign And Awning. Motion: Woody Rider, "to Dismiss Docket No. 09030012 ADLS Amend, Midwest Eye Institute Signage (Springmill Medical Office Building Phase II for lack of prosecution in accordance with the Plan Commission's Rules of Procedure. The motion was seconded by Madeleine Torres, voted 4 -0. Motion Carried 4. Docket No. 09090015 ADLS Amend: DWA Healthcare Communications Group Signage The applicant seeks design approval for a new wall sign. The site is located at 630 W. Carmel Dr. and is zoned M- 3/Manufacturing. Filed by Don Miller of A Sign By Design on behalf of DWA Healthcare Communications Group. Present for Petitioner: Don Miller, A Sign by Design, P.O. Box 691, Zionsville, Indiana 46077 Overview: Proposal is for a new wall sign located at 630 West Carmel Drive Sign will be black during the day, white at night Logo will show in color both day and night Dept Report, Rachel Boone: Petitioner meets Sign Ordinance Sign design will blend with exterior of building Sign is 85 square feet; 88 square feet is allowed per previous variance Logo is within size regulations Dept recommends favorable considerable Motion: Woody Rider "to approve Docket No. 09090015 ADLS Amend, DWA Healthcare Communications Group Signage as presented." The motion was seconded by Heather Irizarry, voted 4 -0. Motion Approved 5. Docket No. 09090021 ADLS Amend: Mohawk Hills Apartments Signage The applicant seeks design approval for 3 new identification signs. The site is located at the SW corner of 126' St. and Keystone Pkwy. and is zoned PUD /Planned Unit Development. Filed by Matt Griffm of Buckingham Companies. Present for Petitioner: Matt Griffin, Buckingham Companies, 941 North Meridian Street, Indianapolis Overview: Proposal is for 3 new identification signs Petitioner re- facing the sign on Keystone with white background, floral/leaf print, new columns Proposal is for signage on two brick entry walls on 126"' Street Signs are tan background with black lettering —black circle behind the lettering S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes/ CommitteeMinutes /SpecialStudies /2009 /PC- SS- 2009oct 06 3 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Signs will be externally illuminated Dept Report, Rachel Boone: Combined total of square footage for signs on existing brick entry walls (22.76 sq. ft.) is under 75 feet allowed by Gramercy PUD Sign on Keystone Parkway will be 46.5 sq. ft., under 8 feet tall and within allowable of Gramercy PUD Signs meet Carmel Ordinance as well as the PUD Motion: Woody Rider to approve Docket No. 09090021 ADLS Amend, Mohawk Hills Apartments Signage as presented to the Committee." The motion was seconded by Madeleine Torres and voted 4 -0 Motion Approved Rick Ripma, Chairperson Ramona Hancock, Secretary S: /P1anCommission/ Minutes/ CommitteeMinutes /SpecialStudies /2009 /PC- SS- 2009oct 06 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417