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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 07-21-04CARMEL CLAY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Minutes July 21, 2004 REPRESENTING THE CITY OF CARMEL: John Dobosiewicz, Planning Zoning Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy Bill Akers, 911 /Communications Trudy Weddington, Bldg Code Enforcmt Scott Brewer, Urban Forester Mark Westermeier, Parks Steve Broermann, County Highway Gary Duncan, Engineering Brooke Gajownik, Dean Groves, Cinergy Dick Hill, Engineering Greg Hoyes, County Surveyor's Gary Hoyt, Fire Department *Candy Feltner David Littlejohn, Pinning Zoning Intern *John South Nicholas Redden, Engineering Via e -mail: Candy Feltner, Clay Regional Waste Via e -mail: John South, Hamilton County Soil and Water Page 3. Docket Nos. 04060035 OA and 04060036 Z: Village of WestClay Docket No. 04070007 SP Village of WestClay, Sec 9007 (Secondary Plat) Docket No. 04070006 SP Village of WestClay, Sec 9004 (Secondary Plat) Page 5. Docket No. 112 -02 SP PC3392: Aberdeen Bend, Sec 1 2 (Secondary Plats) Page 7. Docket No. 04060029 PP: LongRidge Estates (Primary Plat) Page 9. Docket No. 04070004 SP Cass Estates, Sec 1 (Secondary Plat) Page 12. Docket No. 04060032 PP: The Lakes at Towne Rd (Primary Plat) Page 13. Docket No. 04070011 SP: Lakeside Park, Sec 4- Secondary Plat Page 14. Docket No. 04060033 DP /ADLS: 116th /Keystone Retail Shops Page 16. TABLED... Docket No. 04060026 Z. Carey's Addition, Lot 9 (pt) Page 16. Docket No. 04060025 ADLS Amend: Fidelity Plaza, Tower 3, Fifth Third Bank Page 17. Docket No. 04070005 SP Claybourne, Sec 3 (Secondary Plat) 2 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Page 19. Docket No. 04060027 PP Amend Little Farms Addition, replat of lots 31 -33 Page 21. Docket No. 04070012 ADLS Amend: Kroger Rangeline Drive Thru Pharmacy Page 22. Carmel/Clay Schools Woodbrook Elementary: Tree Removal Page 22. Docket No. 04070013 TAC: Brownstone Homes Guilford Reserve 3 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Docket Nos. 04060035 OA and 04060036 Z: Village of WestClay Docket No. 04070006 SP Village of WestClay, Sec 9004 (Secondary Plat) Docket No. 04070007 SP Village of WestClay, Sec 9007 (Secondary Plat) Filed by Brandon Burke of The Schneider Corporation REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: David Warshauer, BARNES AND THORNBURG Kevin Krulik, BRENWICK DEVELOPMENT Dave Sexton, SCHNIEDER CORPORATION Comes now Village of WestClay, Rezone and Secondary Plats for Sections 9004 and 9007. My name is Keith Lash with Brenwick Development. Here with me today is; Dave Sexton, Kevin Krulik and David Warshauer for three petitions. The first is a Rezone to amend the PUD Ordinance. The applicant also seeks to Rezone 30 acres from S -1 /Residence Estate to PUD Planned Unit Development. The site is located at 131 Street and Towne Road both sections built by Pulte. The plan is to develop 9004 this fall and 9007 in early spring. The Rezone, first petition is a text amendment to the ordinance. Located at the northwest corner of 131 Street and Towne Road the 30 -acre parcel will be added to the Village of WestClay, PUD as a peripheral retail area. Second text modification is west of Towne Road. The text amendments will allow modification uses to permit senior housing. There are some primary areas from single family to senior housing with secondary modifications to senior housing. The commercial piece Planned Use has three different components. Single- family to west, Village lots similar in architecture to slightly modified architecture, to a later period type, with the price point remaining the same. Second component is the common area buffer yards on Towne Road, 131 Street to the west and north. This big green area southeast corner of the 30 -acres developed in a similar manner to the parks in the Village. The architecture is Art Deco with a Broad Ripple element. Duncan: We are finishing our comments. Issue with the improvements to Towne Road 131 Street and 126 Street. We would like a meeting about those improvements. We are still developing standards for the PUD. Hill: I faxed a letter to Brandon Burke. Dobosiewicz: You definitely want to come to some agreement with the Engineer's office prior to the Plan Commission meeting. The original commitments for the Village of WestClay and a second set with the modifications and whatever happens with this one utilizing the same level of committment back in '99. Maybe make it a joint effort between Brenwick and the City for Towne Road and 131 Street. Hill Horbeck pond, how does that fight in? Lash: These modifications have not change the original plans. It still holds today. Krulik: It was submitted with Section 50.03. 4 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Groves: This is Ron Booher's area. Our concerns are we need a minimum fifteen feet (15') underground easement, footprints are large. Single phase 10 x10. Shupperd: We have gas all around, no problem getting you hooked up. Akers: Will these come back? Dobosiewicz: Yes. Akers: No comments. Do you need names for streets? Lash: A handful. Gajownik: No comments. Hoyes: We have the J.W. Brindle tile that will need reconstruction. 9004 and 07. with minor comments. I would like to look at reconstruction on Dr. Perez' property. Hoyt: Sent letter to Brandon Burke on 9004 -07. Our office, in conjunction with the Department of Community Development, is requesting in newly platted subdivisions, fire hydrant makers be installed in the street pavement perpendicular to the fire hydrant. This will allow the Fire Department to more easily spot fire hydrants during an emergency. I did not get plans for the Rezone, so I need those. Will this take care of Mr. Graham? Lash: No. Brewer: I usually discuss the Primary Plats with the Park's. Lash: We will have David Klaubaugh submit the detail for this. Dobosiewicz: G. Hoyt made an interesting comment about the property to the north. We would like Brenwick to show how the property to the north can be incorporated into this project. Show the property owner that we will work with them. Sketch together something that works for that property and you might be able to offer comments in writing we can discuss them. The west side of Towne Road that is not platted commercial will come back as individual platted sections filed under a DP. The city will meet with the Developer about Town Road and 131S Street to approach the Plan Commission with a unified vision for what improvements are necessary. This may include storm water issues. This will not be the last opportunity to comment they will be back to TAC. Feltner: If the amended PUD ordinance or rezoning has any direct effect on existing sewer lines or future service, plans need to be re- submitted. Sanitary sewer construction plans need to be submitted for review by the District's Engineers. A District project application may also need to be re- submitted.. Please submit two sets of plans to the District for review. An IDEM construction permit may need to be submitted or revised. If so, all IDEM submittal information should be provided following the District's plan review. Village of WestClay, Sec 9007 Plans have been reviewed and approved by the District's Engineers. Plans are ready to be submitted to IDEM for state approval. Requested developers to submit IDEM package was sent on July 16, 2004. Village of WestClay, Sec 9004 Plans have been reviewed and approved by the District's Engineers. Plans are ready to be submitted to IDEM for state approval. Requested developers to submit IDEM package was sent on July 16, 2004. 5 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 South: The potential for wetlands has been identified on the parcel at the NW corner of 131S and Towne Road. What is the current status and regulatory jurisdiction? Within the amended area, what are your storm water quality goals? ...End... Docket No. 112 -02 SP PC3392: Aberdeen Bend, Sec 1 2 (Secondary Plats) Filed by Gary Murray of Mid States Engineering. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Gary Murray, MID STATES Todd Schaefer, CENTEX HOMES Tom Kutz, CENTEX HOMES Comes now Aberdeen Bend, Secondary Plat. The applicant seeks to construct a 26 -lot subdivision on 24 acres The site is located southeast of Shelborne Road and 131S Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence- ROSO. We are looking to develop 50 lots west of Hayden Run Subdivision. Duncan: We are still in review and will get you comments. Groves: This is Ron Booher's area. I will pass you a New Service Request form. We need updated site plans, Auto -cad when you are done. Time frame? Schaeffer: Fall, this year. Shupperd: We have gas across the street and will get it to you. Akers: Both sections are addressed I will get that to you. Schaeffer: We want to change the Subdivision name to Hayden Run Meadows. Akers: Submit it and I will check into it. Hoyes: We have had a delay in making comments held off for the watershed study we will get it finished within 60 days. Schaeffer: What is causing it? Hoyes: Hayden Run, the open ditch west of Shelborne Road and 116 through Long Branch. Schaeffer: Can we get with Stoeppelwerth and make it work? Hoyes: We have done that. We need to verify Hayden Run will be built as designed. Schaeffer: Will you get the as- builts for the storm sewer topography, and pond details? Hoyes: Yes. We will have studies in by August 2004 with preliminary and final complete in 60 days. Hoyt: Amenity? Schaeffer: No. Hoyt: Our office, in conjunction with the Department of Community Development, is requesting in newly platted subdivisions, fire hydrant 6 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 makers be installed in the street pavement perpendicular to the fire hydrant. This will allow the Fire Department to more easily spot fire hydrants during an emergency. Schaeffer: Can you send us an example? Hoyt: I will check into it. Brewer: A couple of changes. Three species of Ash need to substitute. Twenty -five trees split between two types. No new plantings of Ash. You also have a Linden species you need to change because of the Japanese beetles. I can send you a replacement suggestion. Would like to see the utility easements shown on the Landscape plan. Dobosiewicz: Our request is when you amend the landscape plan you put it on the Secondary Plans. We need a construction grade set on landscaping and continue to update your landscape plan. We sent a letter June 16. I would like to verify that the south location of the street and the intersections align up appropriately. We will have right -of -way and easement for the path retire some commitment for that area. Single lot to the west, four -acre tract like a cross section across that asphalt path. The right -of -way is in place, there is fencing and evergreens there so approach that property owner with sensitivity. Call and meet with them. Schaeffer: Path and road added as the improvement? Dobosiewicz: Yes. Have you been contacted about stubbing regarding sewer and water? Murry: It is on the plans and we did create a connection for them. Dobosiewicz: Get us a letter about the subdivision name change as soon as it is approved by Bill Akers. Akers: I would like to see it named something else. Not another Hayden Run but something else. Schaeffer: Hayden Run Sections four and five? Dobosiewicz: We have complaints on landscaping at The Lakes at Hayden Run. We will do a review for consistency with the required planting. We will come back to the developers and make you plant them. You need to update your plans even if you are not allowed to make certain plantings in the areas originally planned. Schaeffer: We were told not to plant Willows around the pond and so we did not. Brewer: That does not negate your obligation. You still need to plant those or something else in its place. Provide me some documentation that you are doing that. Dobosiewicz: We will be coming after the developer for those plantings, know that we will want those plantings somewhere with the plans reflecting that. Schaeffer: What is the resolution? Dobosiewicz: We need a plan that shows landscaping approved by the Surveyor's office. We will have you add more trees to 131S Street. We will enforce what you send us so come up with a landscape plan that works for everyone. Feltner: Revised sanitary sewer construction plans need to be submitted for review by the District's Engineers. A District project application must also be submitted. Please submit two sets of plans to the District for review by 7 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 District's Engineers. An IDEM construction permit will be needed. All IDEM submittal information should be provided following the District's plan review. ...End... Docket No. 04060029 PP: LongRidge Estates (Primary Plat) Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth Associates REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Steve Pittman, PITTMAN PARTNERS Neal Smith, PITTMAN PARTNERS Dennis Olmstead, STOEPPLEWERTH ASSOCIATES Comes now LongRidge Estates, Primary Plat. The applicant seeks to plat a residential subdivision of approximately 180 lots on 127.57± acres. The site is located southeast of West Road and 141 Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence Estate. The builder will be Pulte. This will be built in phases as well as the pond. We are looking at going off -site for some Lacrosse fields for the Carmel Dad's Club, which is not part of this discussion today. We have made surrounding property owner commitments for a certain curb cut on West Road and tree preservation. We will also have interior sidewalks with a multi -use trail in and through the subdivision connecting with the sports park. Hill: Is Claybourne Farms to the south? Dobosiewicz: Yes. Hill: Have you coordinated the pond with Claybourne? Pittman: Not yet and we want to coordinate with them on the fields as well. Hill: The entrance on Shelborne lines up with the opposing entrances? Pittman: Yes. Hill: We faxed comments yesterday to D. Olmstead. We will have more comments later. Groves: This is Ron Booher's area. He will need a New Service Request form. He will also need, Auto -cad. What is the Timeline? Pittman: This fall. Shupperd: We will bring gas up from Stanford. Will the first section be the one you start? Pittman: Yes, most likely. Akers: I need street names twelve to fifteen (12 —15) submitted to me. The two circular drives to the east, which will have one name. The one with section two and four where it is cut off at 173 -4 that will get two names. Gajownik: What is the correct name of the subdivision? Pittman: LongRidge no space but a capital R. Hoyes: You said there was some coordination with Claybourne? Currently they are showing drainage off on you guys. We need to get that figured out. Where will the big pond drain? William's Creek? 8 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Olmstead: Yes, the existing outlets under that driveway to the south edge of the property into the creek. Hoyes: Claybourne is showing inlet to the pipe and you say it is the outlet. We still have issues that need to be addressed. If we can make Claybourne do their pipe for their pond all they way down to the creek, then when the pond is dug bigger in the future the outlet will be there. You will need to contact some downstream property owners. Pittman: Who? Hoyes: Claybourne will contact everyone on William's Creek and you contact those from the outlet at West Road and 141S Street. It is not a named creek but is a natural waterway. Hoyt: Our office needs a set of plans showing fire hydrant locations throughout the project. In conjunction with the Department of Community Development, we are requesting in newly platted subdivisions, fire hydrant makers installed in the street pavement perpendicular to the fire hydrant. This will allow the Fire Department to more easily spot fire hydrants during an emergency. Also, www.knoxbox.com, to order your Knox -box for the amenity building. Brewer: Talked with John Lapp yesterday and gave him my comments. Buffering of the Lacrosse fields you are required to buffer the residential side of the sports field. Dobosiewicz: You would buffer those as a Special Use around the ball fields just like Stanford Park, with significant screening around the parking lot and the adjacent owners. Brewer: You have enough to get started. Your diversity is good statistically but I do not like the long rows of the same species. Limit your rows to 20 -30 street trees. Need graphic tree protection details on the plans. Pittman: Similar to Weston Point? Brewer: Yes, applying for the waiver on open space requirements I need that waiver request. In the tree preservation area you cannot have a swale in it. You need to move the drainage away from the woods. Get with G. Hoyes and get an agreement for that drainage easement and then show it. Dobosiewicz: I will give you the marked up copy of the Open Space Conservation Map of where we want to see the pathway connections made. We want to see a connection agreement made with the property to the south. The Parks Department would like to partner with you and or the Dad's Club to make this a public park. We want to see Claybourne's pathway connect up with LongRidge Estates. Road improvements along West Road and 141S Street, Paul Rioux had proposed a commitment that ran with Western Hills. We need a new agreement for improvements and should be similar if not identical with what the proposed improvements where. D. Olmstead can you tell me how many additional lots on the waiver? Pittman: Fifteen, (15). Dobosiewicz: When you provide for the Plan Commission you should provide a separate proposal for the Dad's Club and the Primary Plat. Show a layout and spell 9 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 out the waiver request. Need entry details and monumentation. We have been relaxed in our review of landscaping and we need updated construction grade plans submitted each time there is a change or update. Akers: Lot 51 is an existing residence? Pittman: We are buying that property so it would not affect them. Feltner: Sanitary sewer construction plans need to be submitted for review by the District's Engineers. A District project application must also be submitted. An off -site sewer extension may be needed to service this development. Please submit two sets of plans to the District for review by the District's Engineers. District project application needs to be completed and sent to the District. An IDEM construction permit will be needed. All IDEM submittal information should be provided following the District's plan review. South: A 10 -12 acre pond exists east of lot 141. Has flood routing and /or a breach routing been considered in case the dam were to fail? A storm sewer discharges at the rear of lot 172. What water quality practices are being considered before this water is released from the site? What design goals have you considered for storm water quality? It is difficult to manage only part of a pond. What considerations for joint pond maintenance have you considered for pond #1? There are several waterways on the western 80 acres that I believe were installed with USDA cost sharing funds. Please contact John Bush in Boone County to inquire about the possible contracts. From a past soils investigation, you should expect to find wet sand and gravel subsoil on this site. ...END... Docket No. 04070004 SP Cass Estates, Sec 1 (Secondary Plat) Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth Associates REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Dennis Olmstead, STOEPPELWERTH ASSOCIATES Brian Robinson, STOEPPELWERTH ASSOCIATES Craig Lintner, KB HOMES Comes now Cass Estates, Section 1, Secondary Plat. The applicant seeks to plat 61 residential lots on approximately 36 acres. The site is located southwest of Shelborne Road and 116 Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence -Low Density. Duncan: The left turn lanes I would like to look at this again to align for future signaling. Olmstead: We were encouraged months ago to align the left turn lanes. Robinson: When do you want to get together? Duncan: This afternoon? Will you widen the south pavement and the d /cell tapers? Robinson: Yes. 10 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Groves: This is Ron Booher's area. Ron will need Auto -cad, new site plans and, New Service Request form called in. Do you know the time frame? Lintner: Late fall. Shupperd: We are already at 116 Street so we will come out from there. Akers: Moore Drive did not get approved so if you can send me an alternant. I will get this approved. Hoyes: We have conflicts with the regulated drains and landscaping. One in particular is at the back of a lot with a twenty -five feet buffer granted in the primary platting stage. Per the commitments Brian Robinson had to put in a pipe and now there is conflict with that buffer. We will get you a letter. Dobosiewicz: I think we can cut a swale within those twenty -five feet. They wanted a guarantee that there would not be anything constructed in the twenty -five feet. It does not need to be twenty -five feet landscape easement and drainage easement. My suggestion for the twenty -five feet is to call it common area. Robinson: We did. Lintner: We can pull that drainage easement into the common area? Dobosiewicz: Yes, I do not have to see a fifteen feet drainage easement on the backside of this lot. Hoyes: I have landscape issues with the front entry. We have some pipes in there. Dobosiewicz: Make sure it is getting on the plans. Hoyt: Sent you a letter on the 14 th Need a set of plans for hydrants. Will this have an amenity building? Robinson: No. Hoyt: Our office, in conjunction with the Department of Community Development, is requesting in newly platted subdivisions, fire hydrant makers be installed in the street pavement perpendicular to the fire hydrant. This will allow the Fire Department to more easily spot fire hydrants during an emergency. Broermann: Sent B. Robinson a fax. We realize 116 is under Carmel's jurisdiction but we do have issues with the entrance being offset. Our concern is the conflicts you create on 116 far out -way any conflicts you will have with the left turn lane. We would suggest that you align the entrances and that the left turn lane be built on 116 Street for consistency. Dobosiewicz: Gary Duncan are you following what Steve Broermann is saying? The issue is the wide medians creating a challenge. The Department would like to see dedicated lefts. Broermann: The pavement is there already they just need to shift it. Dobosiewicz: They would need to modify the entrance how much? Broermann: Several feet to the east. Lintner: You want centerline and centerline lined up? Dobosiewicz: I am saying currently it does not work and it needs to work and you need left turn lanes on 116 Street. Lintner: We would like to run north along the right -of -way for the sanitary easement is there a way to get to the sewer? 11 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Broermann: The County Engineer said you have a manhole on the south side and need to make that work. Lintner: We need to go under 116 Dobosiewicz: You are saying push it, not cut it? Broermann: Yes. Dobosiewicz: You have a storm across there? Lintner: Yes, waiting to be signed. But that is storm not sanitary. Dobosiewicz: Can you put it behind the property owner's house? Lintner: No. Broermann: We will get with you on this. Brewer: Work with your landscape architect to put your drainage easements on the construction plans and show him where he cannot design things. Species conflicts with Ash choose an alternate. I have a list of alternates to use. Robinson: I will have D. Klaubaugh contact you. Dobosiewicz: We sent a letter July 12. One of our issues is the modification of lot size that affects the ROSO requirements. Do you have outside easements acquired from the Blackwells? Lintner: We are currently working on that. Dobosiewicz: I see that their driveway is to be relocated is that being done by you? I would prefer that Mr. Blackwell was amenable to the dedication of the right -of -way and the standard road improvement in front of his home across his frontage that you assume the frontage cost and that you extend the road and path across his frontage. Work with the subdivision on the traffic controlled speed tables through the neighborhood. I suggest you contact the Neighborhood Association about this. Hoyt: The Fire Department hates those. Dobosiewicz: Then we need to sit down and go over this. I want to make sure Mr. Blackwell is taken care of before the Primary Plat is signed. You need to make sure we have a final landscape plan in the file. Feltner: Plans have been received and are currently being reviewed by the District's Engineers. Revisions may be required after the review. IDEM permit will be required. ...END... 12 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Docket No. 04060032 PP: The Lakes at Towne Rd (Primary Plat) Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth Associates. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Dennis Olmstead, STEOPPELWERTH ASSOCIATES Ryan Thomas, INSIGHT Comes now The Lakes at Towne Road, Primary Plat. The applicant seeks to plat a residential subdivision of approximately 54 lots on 40.39± acres. The site is located southwest of Towne Road and 136 Street the site is zoned S -I /Residence Estate. ROSO development connecting 136 Street and Towne Road. That will complete the connection with Towne and Shelborne Roads. We are planning a series of trails running through it. Storm will run from Lakes at Hayden Run. We know about the studies on drainage and about the moratorium on the drainage until the study is done. Duncan: Are you widening Towne Road along the property line? Olmstead: Yes. Duncan: They will need two twelve feet (2/12') lanes with curb, gutter, and stone shoulder? Dobosiewicz: Yes. You need to check into the property owner for dedicated right -of- way. What about a median right there at your entrance? Olmstead: One comment was we are encroaching on Lakeside Park. We are limited on what we can do as far as keeping the alignment. Dobosiewicz: Towne Road wants to look like Hazel Dell Parkway. Duncan: We want a left turn lane. Dobosiewicz: Will this intersection be designed the same way as Lakeside Park? Duncan: Give some consideration to aligning the stub coming south. Omstead: We do not care where it ends. Dobosiewicz: Send us a letter that states that. Hill: How do the commitments add up with (inaudible)? Groves: This is Ron Booher's area. He will need a New Service Request and Auto cad. What is the timeline? Thomas: Fall. Shupperd: We have gas at 136 Street and Towne Road at Lakeside. Jerry Breech is your contact. Akers: I need eight (8) street names. Will these streets connect with Lakes at Hayden Run? That stub to the south, will it connect? Dobosiewicz: No, not if Brenwick is approved. Hoyes: The so -called moratorium is found under 36.927 IC. You can take that up with K. Ward. This will be going through Lakeside and the J. W. Brendle. Hoyt: I sent you a letter. Our office needs a set of plans showing fire hydrant locations throughout the project. Our office, in conjunction with the Department of Community Development, is requesting in newly platted subdivisions, fire hydrant makers be installed in the street pavement perpendicular to the fire hydrant. This will allow the Fire Department to more easily spot fire hydrants during an emergency. 13 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Brewer: I need landscape plans. Olmstead: I brought them with me. Brewer: Ok, if you provide landscaping easements make sure they are in line with Hoyes: the drainage easements. Need tree protection details. Dobosiewicz: Tell your landscaping architect to set up a meeting with our office. I already see problems. The path that comes through Lakes and connects to the other path to Towne Road will give more options for circuits (JCD hi- lighting the areas on plans). Make sure you are in compliance with the buffer yard standards. Get that together before you go to the Plan Commission or you will be tabled by the Plan Commission if the landscape plan is not in place. Feltner: Sanitary sewer construction plans need to be submitted for review by the District's Engineers. A District project application must also be submitted. An off -site sewer extension may be needed to service this development. Please submit two sets of plans to the District for review by the District's Engineers. District project application needs to be completed and sent to the District. An IDEM construction permit will be needed. All IDEM submittal information should be provided following the District's plan review. South: Basements are not recommended in these high water table soils. What are your design goals for post construction water quality? ...End... Docket No. 04070011 SP: Lakeside Park, Sec 4- Secondary Plat Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth Associates REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Dennis Olmstead, STOEPPELWERTH ASSOCIATES Ray Roehling Comes now Lakeside Park, Section 4, Secondary Plat. The petitioner seeks to plat 38 residential lots on 17.173 acres The site is located southwest of 141S Street and Towne Road and is zoned S- I Residence Estate. This will mirror the other section already out there. Duncan: We faxed our comments to Ed Fleming, no further. Groves: This is Ron Booher's area. Here is a New Service Request form. Do you have a timeline? Roehling: In three to four weeks. Shupperd: We will come out of the other sections. Akers: No comments. Hoyes: I sent you a comment letter, no further. Hoyt: No comments. 14 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Brewer: I did not receive separate plans. Need those. For all Ash species replace those with an alternate. I can get with you on alternates, no Ash planted. Drainage easements added to the plans as well. Dobosiewicz: Sent you a July 12, letter. Issue of identification of sidewalk of Four Season's Way. If you have made changes on that we need the updated versions. We want concrete drives and overlapping the asphalt pathways. Verify five feet (5') concrete sidewalk. We are not impressed with the Lakes at Hayden Run's concrete work and whoever is doing the construction work. We are not happy with the finished look. Feltner: Sanitary sewer construction plans need to be submitted for review by the District's Engineers. A District project application must also be submitted. An off -site sewer extension may be needed to service this development. Please submit two sets of plans to the District for review by the District's Engineers. District project application needs to be completed and sent to the District. An IDEM construction permit will be needed. All IDEM submittal information should be provided following the District's plan review. ...END... Docket No. 04060033 DP /ADLS: 116th /Keystone Retail Shops Filed by Steve Hardin of Bingham McHale REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Matt Skelton, BINGHAM MCHALE April Hensley, ARCHITECT Drew Warner, ELLIPSE Dan Schnur, SCHNEIDER CORPORATION Comes now 116 and Keystone Retail Shops, DP /ADLS. The applicant seeks approval for a retail/office building. The site is located at the northeast corner of 116 Street and Keystone Avenue. The site is zoned B -3 within the US 431 Overlay Zone. Duncan: Still reviewing the drawings. Schnur: We have concerns about the drainage. Duncan: We send it to Crossroads and will wait for their comments Groves: Here is a New Service Request form, we will need Auto -cad, and three phase commercial requirements. Your site is a single phase you need three phase and a pad is 8 x 8 feet for a transformer pad. Minimum is four inches (4 How is your metering, need more than one run? Hensley: No. Shupperd: I am passing down a New Service Request form. We did retire the gas when the station was demo'd. We will extend it back from the existing. Akers: Address will remain as is, off of 116 Street. How many tenants? Warner: Five to seven. Akers: You will need suite numbers. Is it one story? 15 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Hensley: Yes. Hoyes: You will need an outlet permit and a letter from Carmel on the outlet. Hoyt: Will the building be protected by an automatic fire suppression system? If so, we request a meeting to discuss the location of the fire department connection. We will also request and exterior entrance to the fire department riser room. If the building is provided with a fire alarm system, we request that the fire alarm enunciator panel be located at the main entrance of each building. We are requesting that a Knox Box be installed on the building for fire department emergency access. We are also requesting fire department connection caps available through the Knox Company if the building is sprinklered. Knox products can be ordered on line at www.knoxbox.com We are requesting that all tenant suites be keyed on a master key system, which will allow us access to all spaces in the event of an emergency. Schnur: We would like it on the south side of the building. Hoyt: We will need the address noted on the building. Brewer: I did not know you had variances. You are currently in the U.S. 431 Overlay. So you have a Buffer Yard Requirement for that Overlay. You will need forty -five (45) shade trees, forty -five (45) ornamentals, and 450 shrubs and with reduced buffer you will not have enough space. What is the reduction about? Schnur: To increase the building size and additional right -of -way for future road improvements. Dobosiewicz: That does not effect your setbacks. We are going to ask that they dedicate the additional right -of -way. We want a solid screen by the parking and I have concerns about the proximity of the residential area. You need to get with the neighbors. Groves: On the east side we have an overhead line. Brewer: You have landscaping in the utility easements. They need separation. We have had complaints from the neighbors even when the gas station was there. We will have some significant comments so maybe we should all get together to discuss it. Dobosiewicz: June 23, a letter was sent. Revised set needed. See exhibit for rooftop monitoring equipment. Extend the sidewalk on to your site with ramp on either side. A. Hensley we will sit down with you on the elevations of the building. Be consistent with sign color and awnings. Use Hazel Dell as your example. Skelton: We are in the process of getting with the neighbors. I would like to meet with you first. Groves: Timeframe? Warner: November 2004. 16 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Docket No. 04060026 Z: Carey's Addition, Lot 9 (pt) Filed by Carl Jennifer Hartmann REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: The applicant seeks to rezone this lot from R -3 /Residence to B -1 /Business within the Old Town Overlay Character Sub -area. The site is located at 105 First Avenue NE. TABLED. Docket No. 04060025 ADLS Amend: Fidelity Plaza, Tower 3, Fifth Third Bank Filed by Scott Bordenet of Benchmark Land Services REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Julie Christensen, REI REAL ESTATE Scott Bordenet, BENCHMARK LAND SERVICES Comes now Fidelity Plaza, Tower 3, Fifth Third Bank, ADLS Amend. The applicant seeks approval for a bank canopy addition and other site improvements. The site is located at 11590 North Meridian Street. The site is zoned S -2 /Residence B -6 /Business within the US 31 Overlay. Duncan: We looked at existing right -of -way. J. Dobosiewicz, do we normally ask for dedication? Dobosiewicz: There is an issue to amend the drive -thru. The City's plan to modify access to 116 Street will not be eliminated. A request to relocate the drive -thru will be at the direction of the Board of Works. Duncan: Let me check on the right -of -way. Dobosiewicz: It will ultimately be a right -in, right -out. Duncan: Pushing it east is better. Our comment letter will have some information on the roundabout. Dobosiewicz: Understand that the process with the drive -thru issue is with BPW. Duncan With the increase of impervious we will need to look at drainage. Bordenet: Point one (.1) acres impact? Duncan: We are more concerned with local drainage if it can carry it away. Look at the immediate drain size. Have you seen any ponding? Bordenet: No. Groves: There is a buried line in there. IPL is in that area. I do not know if it is ours or shared. I will let you know. Shupperd: No comments. Akers: No comments. Hoyes: No comments. 17 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Hoyt: D Carl sent me elevations. The height of the drive -thru will need to be indicated on both sides of the drive -thru lanes with the height posted on a contrasting background. Will canopy area be interconnected to the buildings existing fire suppression system? Broermann: No comments. Brewer: Planting details need to read "plant at grade level Moving twelve trees, like to see those get used. I would like to see a couple of shade trees in the planting area. Dobosiewicz: (J. Dobosiewicz drawing on plans), make this an island with a sign that has an arrow that points the direction to the drive -thru. I am concerned about traffic control and directional. Are there trees in the existing islands? Bordenet: Yes. Dobosiewicz: What is your typical space size? Bordenet: 9 x 20. Feltner: Area is currently served via a private lift station. Developer needs to investigate possible connection point at the new manhole north of 116 on the Hospital's site. Please contact the District's office for further information. South: This project is exempt from Rule 5 requirements because it disturbs less than one acre. Plan review is deferred to the City of Carmel. ...END... Docket No. 04070005 SP Claybourne, Sec 3 (Secondary Plat) Filed by J. Cort Crosby of The Schneider Corp REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Cort Crosby, THE SCHNEIDER CORPORATION Chris Werth, BOOMERANG DEVELOPMENT Comes now Claybourne, Section 3, Secondary Plat. The applicant seeks to plat 77 residential lots on approximately 73 acres. The site is located northwest of 131S Street and Shelborne Road. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence -ROSO. Duncan: We will just hi -light a few comments. Is it consistent with the others? Crosby: Yes. Duncan: What about the lakes are they holding water? Werth: Yes. Duncan: An earlier TAC Petitioner had mention connectivity to Lake Five. Werth: Nobody has come to us. Dobosiewicz: They would like to do something together with you. It is LongRidge. We need to get Steve Pittman, Parks, and you together to decide where everything will go. Duncan: I faxed comments to you yesterday. Does this line up with Stanford Park? Werth: Yes. 18 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Dobosiewicz: Do you have stations on that? I will ask Stoeppelwerth if they can add that detail. Duncan: Entrance detail shows eighteen feet (18') and twelve feet (12') on the other. We want eighteen (18) feet on both sides. Dobosiewicz: Do you have two outbound lanes? Court: No. Dobosiewicz: Combine that. Exiting lane gets widened to twenty -four (24). G. Hoyt you were not happy with that. Hoyt: We do not like eighteen feet (18'). Court: Okay, we will just widen it. Duncan: Details need to be changed to City of Carmel. No asphalt pavement we want all concrete drives. Groves: This is Ron Booher's area. You will need to fill out a New Service Request. What is the time frame? Court: Late summer. Shupperd: We will come out of the other sections. Hoyes: I have started your review. You show discharging into Lake Five and LongRidge says theirs does. We need to know where you are discharging. Court: You have the two feet of contour maps so look at it. I do not know why LongRidge is saying what they are saying. Dobosiewicz: They are saying it is coming your way. Court: All our water goes across our property to the lake. Dobosiewicz: I am sure D. Olmstead will give you a call. Hoyes: I will do a site visit after TAC and get a comment letter to you. Court: We would like to get things wrapped up. Hoyes: We will let you get started and get with LongRidge. Hoyt: Sent you a letter, amenity? Court: Not in this section. Hoyt: Our office, in conjunction with the Department of Community Development, is requesting in newly platted subdivisions, fire hydrant makers be installed in the street pavement perpendicular to the fire hydrant. This will allow the Fire Department to more easily spot fire hydrants during an emergency. Court: I am not familiar with those. Do you have any information on them? Hoyt No, not really. I will send you a picture of one. Broermann: The revisions to the stub street changing the width? Dobosiewicz: I am ok with the revisions. Broermann: What about the path along 1 16 Street? Dobosiewicz: Behind the pole. Werth: We were allowed to make changes. Brewer: The Lacrosse fields will change this area. The other subdivision will add landscaping but we will need to coordinate that with them. Dobosiewicz: You need to show us where you made the changes. We need an amended set for the whole subdivision. Court: We are saying it has not changed. 19 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Brewer: You have showed us two different plans. Werth: You were in the loop on that. Dobosiewicz: Then just submit what is current. Brewer: No Ash species planted at all. Linden species Tilha Cordotta needs changing due to Japanese beetles. Call me for some alternates. Dobosiewicz: Sent you a comment letter. If changes are made because of the subdivision to the north, we will make them make the changes. We need you to connect your path with their path. Feltner: Plans have been reviewed and approved by the District's Engineers. Plans are ready to be submitted to IDEM for state approval. Requested developers to submit 3 sets of plans for IDEM submittal on July 16, 2004. ...END... Docket No. 04060027 PP Amend Little Farms Addition, replat of lots 31 -33 Filed by Chris Badger of Badger Engineering for Carmel Development LLC. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Chris Badger, BADGER ENGINEERING David Barker, OWNER Tom Lazzara, OWNER CITIZEN AUDIT: Gary Cantrell Jack Edwards Comes now Little Farms Addition, Replat of lots 31- 33.The applicant seeks to replat 3 platted residential lots into 9 lots. The site is located northeast of East 104 and Ethel Street. The site is zoned R -3 /Residence. Duncan: No comments. Groves: We will need a New Service Request form, and updated Auto -cad. You show no easements or other utilities. We need an updated site plan. We need to see a fifteen feet (15') easement established. Are you going to develop all at once? Lazzara: Yes. Groves: Time frame? Lazzara: This fall. Shupperd: No plans. I am sure we have gas at 104 Badger: Could you send us your service map? Shupperd: Okay. Akers: Waiting for more submittals. Get me four more names. Hoyes: I faxed comments to you. The County requirements of five acres or more need detention requirements. Also that pipe will become regulated. Dobosiewicz: Along the drainpipe? 20 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 Hoyes: Yes, you need additional five feet on each lot. Dobosiewicz: The easement does not have to be centered on the property line? Hoyes: No further comments. Hoyt: I sent C. Badger a letter on the 14 Our office, in conjunction with the Department of Community Development, is requesting in newly platted subdivisions, fire hydrant makers be installed in the street pavement perpendicular to the fire hydrant. This will allow the Fire Department to more easily spot fire hydrants during an emergency. Is this a private street? Badger: No. Hoyt: I thought the County Standard was 28 you have 26. Badger: It will be changed back. Broermann: Our main concern is drainage issues with roadside swales. Badger: If we have a four feet (4') access easement on Ethel we cannot have side load driveways. Lazzara: Neighbors enter from that side we want variance in the look. Dobosiewicz: If there is a duplex on the lot we get one curb cut on lot 31. Lazzara: On a corner lot we would like the option left open for the choice of which street the curb cut is made. Broermann: In a typical subdivision we do not allow entry from either street. Dobosiewicz: We all need to get together and discuss this further? Broermann: Okay. Hoyt: It could also influence the address. Brewer: You cannot have landscaping in the Swale. Badger: Do existing trees count as landscaping? Brewer: Yes. Dobosiewicz: You need to get with the Surveyor's office and S. Brewer for the landscaping and make sure you provide a Tree Preservation to the Plan Commission. Things are tight for duplexes. Do you have the path identified on Ethel? Is that proposed or existing? Badger: Proposed. Dobosiewicz: You show a twenty —five (25) with a sidewalk the sidewalk is five feet (5'). I am going to request you ask the Plan Commission to waive that standard to (inaudible). Badger: What about the rear yard? Dobosiewicz: Twenty (20) is the standard and we require a rear yard on a corner lot. If you do not have a swale your setback is less. You can get the plat approved as drawn and seek relief. We will support relief on the front yard, but you will need to show us what other relief you are wanting along the rear. Duncan: The water is on the east side? Badger: We changed it. Duncan: It has been brought down? Jack Edwards: The aquifer under the house is there a well on the site plan? 21 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda @y 21, 2004 Dobosiewicz: There is a review process they will go through. If there is a well you will need a well demo permit. We will have them report to the Plan Commission. Jack Edwards: These roads are thirty feet (30') wide right -of -way and to go to the fifty feet (50') does not seem very clear. We want to maintain the thirty feet (30') all the way down. Dobosiewicz: They will dedicate that. Broermann: State Statute states no less than forty (40). Badger: Ethel will have a twenty (20) half then? Dobosiewicz: Yes. Broermann: You will not be able to push water onto the adjoining properties. My preference will be that you stub that sidewalk and the builder makes the connection. Jack Edwards: You have a surface water problem already. Can you tie into at 5 th Street? Hoyes: I do not think so. Feltner: Sanitary sewer construction plans need to be submitted for review by the District's Engineers. A District project application must also be submitted. Please submit two sets of plans to the District for review by District Engineers. An IDEM construction permit may be needed. If so, all IDEM submittal information should be provided following the District's plan review. ...END... Docket No. 04070012 ADLS Amend: Kroger Rangeline Drive Thru Pharmacy Filed by Aaron Reynolds of Paul I Cripe, Inc. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Aaron Reynolds, PAUL I CRIPE Larry Kemper, NELSON AND FRANKENBERGER Dan Dicioccid, KROGER Holly Helmling, KROGER Diana Crabtree, KROGER Victor Berlage, KROGER Comes now Kroger Rangeline Drive Thru Pharmacy. The applicant seeks approval for drive thru canopy and signage. The site is located at 1217 South Range Line Road. The site is zoned B -8 /Business. Hoyt: The fire department will require the integrity of the fire lane in the front of the building remain intact and lettered "FIRE LANE" after building alteration. The height of the drive -thru will need to be indicated on both sides of the drive -thru lanes with the height posted on a contrasting background. Will canopy area be interconnected to the building's existing 22 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 ...END... Carmel/Clay Schools Woodbrook Elementary: Tree Removal Filed by Jeffrey Maidlow for Carmel/Clay Schools. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: The applicant seeks a special use amendment. The site is located at 4311 E 116th Street and is zoned S -1 /Residence Low Density. Groves: Locate issues; please call our office before you begin. Shupperd: Call 1 -800 number for buried utilities and overhead lines they need to mind both. ...END... Docket No. 04070013 TAC: Brownstone Homes Guilford Reserve Filed by Adam DeHart of Keeler -Webb Associates. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Adam Dehart, KEELER WEBB Robert Barbato CRAWFORD DEVELOPMENT fire suppression system? Hill: No comments. Groves: No comments. Shupperd: No comments. Akers: No comments. Hoyes: No comments. Brewer: Along the areas marked tree preservation on the edges, over the last 5 -7 years you have lost trees. You need to replace those with native species in those areas. Reynolds: Do you need a plan? Brewer: No, just a letter of replacement. Dobosiewicz: On the building elevations rendering, I am certain the sign is not that big. Revise that plan. The red and blue neon fixture, I would change it. Maintain the column spacing. Details of sign submitted August 3r for the Plan Commission. Berlage: White neon sign is that acceptable? Dobosiewicz: No, make it a solid opaque face. I would go with the "Kroger and Bank One" match. South: This project is not required to meet the requirements of Rule 5. ...END... Carmel/Clay Schools Woodbrook Elementary: Tree Removal Filed by Jeffrey Maidlow for Carmel/Clay Schools. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: The applicant seeks a special use amendment. The site is located at 4311 E 116th Street and is zoned S -1 /Residence Low Density. Groves: Locate issues; please call our office before you begin. Shupperd: Call 1 -800 number for buried utilities and overhead lines they need to mind both. ...END... Docket No. 04070013 TAC: Brownstone Homes Guilford Reserve Filed by Adam DeHart of Keeler -Webb Associates. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Adam Dehart, KEELER WEBB Robert Barbato CRAWFORD DEVELOPMENT 23 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda @y 21, 2004 Comes now Brownstone Homes Guilford Reserve. The applicant seeks to construct 48 Brownstone units on 5 acres The site is located at 1011 South Guilford Road. The site is zoned PUD- Planned Unit Development. This will be like the Towne Homes at Hazel Dell with individual units and private drives. Duncan: I faxed comments to you. We need to get together on those. Dehart: We are going with Indianapolis Water, meter and hookup accordingly. Passing blister discussion has to happen. We angled the entrances for the bike path and they come in more on Gray. Dobosiewicz: I would shift farther away from the drive. Duncan: You cannot send people out into the street. Groves: We will need a New Service Request form. I propose Cinergy and Vectren meet in my office for discussion. Shupperd: Three stories? Dehart: First is garage, second living, and third bedroom. Akers: Most of my comments will be directed to Gary Hoyt of the Carmel Fire Department. No problem with the street names for (inaudible) north part may have to cut if off at the court for future development. Address all off main drag with directional signs. Future street front project may have to have a name for that. Submit two extra names. Hoyes: I faxed comments to you. County ordinance requires flood plain study be done. FIR maps show flood plain. You are in the Fertig Drain Preservation area. Shoal soils in the area. Dehart: I will call you about these. Study done two years ago. Hoping to phase our construction to be out of the fringe area to get started. Hoyes: If this is phased. Dobosiewicz: We want them to split it. Dehart: We would like to get started this year. Hoyt: I sent you a letter. Leaving access easement to the south? Dehart: That is a dead issue. Hoyes: We may need to look at the culvert. Dehart: I will check the gage on that. Brewer: No plans, no comments. Dehart: The tree preservation and landscaping has not change. Do you want another copy? Dobosiewicz: Yes. We are asking you to make changes to the plan anyway. So make the changes to the landscaping and land bank parking then resubmit. You may want to depress the curb at the land bank parking. Dehart: On the verification to meet with the neighbor to the north, how do you want us to show that? Dobosiewicz: I want a letter showing me what you did to meet that. Feltner: Sanitary sewer construction plans need to be submitted for review by the District's Engineers. A District project application must also be submitted. Please submit two sets of plans to the District for review by the District's Engineers. District project application needs to be completed and sent to 24 Technical Advisory Committee Agenda July 21, 2004 the District. An IDEM construction permit will be needed. All IDEM submittal information should be provided following the District's plan review. END OF TRANSMISSION.