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Technical Advisory Committee Minutes
October 20, 2004
CARMEL CLAY
TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Minutes
October 20, 2004
REPRESENTING THE CITY OF CARMEL:
Jon Dobosiewicz, DOCS
Bill Akers, 911 Communications
Scott Brewer, Environmental Planner
Steve Broermann, Cnty Hywy
Gary Duncan, Engineering
Brooke Gajownik, Hamltn County 911
Matt Griffin, DOCS
Greg Hoyes, County Surveyor's
Gary Hoyt, Fire Department
Nick Redden, Engineering
Jim Blanchard, Building Code Enfcmt
Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy
Candy Feltner, Clay Regional Waste
John South, Hmltn Cnty Soil and Water
Via e -mail: Jim Blanchard, Building Code Enfcmt
Via e -mail: Candy Feltner, Clay Regional Waste
Page 2. Docket No. 04090039 DP /ADLS: 1301 South Range Line Road
Page 4. Docket No. 04090029 SP: Park Northwestern, Lot 4 Replat
Page 4. Docket No. 04090038 DP Amend: Century 21 Alexander Office Building
Page 5. Docket No. 04090043 PP: Bella Tara.
Docket No. 04090044 SW: SCO 6.3.20 Private Streets
Page 7. Docket No. 04090045 ADLS: O'Malia Fireplace
Page 9. Docket No. 040100001 SP: Cherry Creek Estates Section 5 Secondary Plat
Page 9. Docket No. 04100003 SP: Village of WestClay, Section 5002 Secondary Plat
Page 11. Docket No. 04100002 TAC: Carmel Dad's Club: Concession Stand
Docket No. 04090039 DP /ADLS: 1301 South Range Line Road
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Filed by E. Davis Coots
REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER:
Mike DeBoy, DEBOY LAND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
Stacey Hosler, DEBOY LAND DELELOPMENT SERVICES
David Fineberg, THE FINEBERG GROUP LLC
Comes now 1301 South Rangeline Road, Development Plan, Architectural Design, Lighting and
Signage Application. The applicant proposes a new commercial building and associated signage.
The site is located at 1301 South Rangeline Road. The site is zoned B -8 /Business. We are going
to demo the original 11,000 square feet develop on the northwest quad. This will be mixed use
professional offices and restaurants with a proposed drive -thru from the south with an outlet to
the east.
DeBoy: We would like info on transformer placement from Cinergy. We would like to get
together on the specs for the Carmel Drive Streetscape.
Duncan: We have comments ready.
DeBoy: We show fifty feet (50') right -of -way and Engineering says it is forty -five (45)? I
looked at the plans along Rangeline it shows forty -five (45) and DOCS is
requesting fifty -five (55). What is the right -of -way?
Dobosiewicz: Is the building angled?
DeBoy: The right -of -way angles. We will be addressing the parking after we get your
comments.
Dobosiewicz: We asked for the right -of -way for a future dedicated right turn.
DeBoy: What is the timeframe?
Duncan: None yet.
DeBoy: What about the path?
Dobosiewicz: We will use a sidewalk here.
DeBoy: You requested a traffic study?
Dobosiewicz: Not traffic study but turning movements at the entrance of your site on Rangeline.
Queuing of traffic turning into your site.
DeBoy: Traffic impact study or count?
Duncan: Give us information from peak times.
Dobosiewicz: We should have info on that area from twelve (12) to twenty -four (24) months
Dobosiewicz: Are all the areas outside the planting plan is that sidewalk from the back of curb to
the building space.
DeBoy: Limits of demolition to the west and north are to the back of curb other than the
ornamental gate at the intersection. The outside limits to the south and east are
limits of the parking lot.
ago.
Hoyes:
No comments
Shupperd:
Passing contact sheet. Are you using Gas?
DeBoy:
A remote meter maybe.
Gajownik:
No comments.
Duncan:
Call us.
Dobosiewicz: Are all the areas outside the planting plan is that sidewalk from the back of curb to
the building space.
DeBoy: Limits of demolition to the west and north are to the back of curb other than the
ornamental gate at the intersection. The outside limits to the south and east are
limits of the parking lot.
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Dobosiewicz: Identify the fence on the Construction Plans. Convey to D. Coots we will be
looking for dedication commitments on the right -of -way. Transfer the landscaping
to a set that shows the rights -of -ways. Make sure you have the traffic study with
you so you are not held up in Plan Commission. We would want to see this plan
dashed in of how it could connect with the site to the south and provide on the
Development Plan a cross access easement for future redevelopment.
Hoyt: Two story?
DeBoy: Multi -story but not a full two story.
Hoyt: We may need an additional Fire Hydrant at the connection or within fifty feet (50')
of the hookup.
DeBoy: East of the drive up?
Hoyt: Yes.
South: Storm Water Prevention Plan is still unapproved.
DeBoy: Southern most manhole is the location we think we will use. We can use a
separator if necessary and most cost effective.
South: Look for areas you can use for Storm Water Quality.
Brewer: Comments for you, I will pass them down. Areas on the east side of the White
Pines save those but the bushes to the south need to go. Like J. South said maybe
you can use the courtyard to help with storm water. Work with the Bank on that
to integrate landscaping on the south side. Species and graphic details we can talk
about later. Planters will work but consolidate make small larger and relocate. Beef
up landscaping on the Carmel Drive and Rangeline sides.
Dobosiewicz: Turn curb out on site plan and add spaces wider for the two lanes then it will not
interrupt you if the change comes. It was my understanding that it is two stories
4,000 square feet up and 11,100 square feet down that meets the parking needs.
Our support of the Variance is necessary to pull this building to the street are
contingent upon providing some portion of second story occupyable space, that
needs to be passed on to D. Coots. Provide to us a sketched drawing of the site
showing a building with required parking, and landscaping space. Submit a rough
sketch to us as soon as possible and we will get comments back to you.
DeBoy: Do we have to show where a truck will make a three point turn?
Dobosiewicz: You do have to show it, I suggest you use a template. Comment letter was sent to
D. Coots. We need to get together with Engineering on the right -of -way
dedication. Photo metric Plan needed, cut sheets for light fixtures, attached
fixtures need to be 90 degree cut -off, down lights. Need to see detail of the trash
enclosure side materials need to be consistent with building. Show canopy
extended to the south and incorporated into the building. Show stacking but it
appears you are fine. Dedication of right -of -way is necessary pursuant to
Development Plan approval. Outdoor seating show cut sheets with tables, chairs,
and umbrellas to the Plan Commission if any. You will need to submit applications
to the BZA if they have not been made.
Blanchard: Each required accessible means of egress shall be continuous to a public way. The
means of egress, including the exit discharge, shall be illuminated at all times the
building space served by the means of egress is occupied. Will there be a
Construction Trailer? If so, it will need a Temporary Use Permit. Applications are
at the office of Building and Code Enforcement on the 1S t floor of City Hall. A pre-
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submittal meeting will be required. No Building Permit will be issued before the
pre submittal meeting. You may get a copy of the pre submittal checklist and
commercial procedures on our web site: www.ci.carmel.in.us Make sure you
have all agencies' approvals prior to contacting Sarah Lillard for your pre
submittal meeting: Shflard@ci.carmel.in.us After your pre submittal meeting it is
normally 10 days before your company will be issued a permit.
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Docket No. 04090029 SP: Park Northwestern, Lot 4 Replat
Filed by Dave Barnes of Weihe Engineering
REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER:
Dave Barnes, WEIHE ENGINEERING
Jim Adams, SIMPLY STORAGE
Comes now Park Northwestern, Lot 4, Replat. The applicant seeks to create 2 lots on 1.07 acres.
The site is located west of Northwestern Drive and Michigan Road. Current zoning is I -1
Industrial.
Hoyes: No comments.
Shupperd: No comments.
Broermann: No comments.
Gajownik: No comments.
Hoyt: No comments.
South: No comments.
Brewer: No comments.
Dobosiewicz: It is our preference that you show the cross access easement identified on the plat
instead of the privately recorded instrument.
Barnes: We can put the recorded easement number on the plat.
Dobosiewicz: That works. This will get routed through the County Commissioners.
Feltner: The District has no comments on the Replat. Owner will need to provide to the
District information on how Sanitary Sewer service will be provided to this lot for
future development.
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Docket No. 04090038 DP Amend: Century 21 Alexander Office Building
Filed by David R. Warshauer of Barnes and Thornburg
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REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER:
Dave Warshauer, BARNES AND THORNBURG
Jerry Alexander, PETITIONER
Comes now Century 21- Alexander Office Building, Development Plan Amend. The applicant
proposes to pave a gravel area on the site and use it for additional parking. The site is located at
11411 Michigan Road. The site is zoned B -5 /Business.
Hoyes: Small space so no comments.
Shupperd: No comments.
Broermann: No comments.
Gajownik: No comments.
Hoyt: No comments.
Duncan: No comments.
South: Less than one (1) acre disturbed so no comments.
Brewer: We need to bring this up to the Commercial Standards under the Overlay. Trees
have been removed and many others will need to be removed. Upgrade Landscape
Plan to meet the ordinance for the Michigan Overlay.
Dobosiewicz: Meet with S. Brewer to determine what the additional plantings should be. S.
Brewer there are trees shown on the Plan that are not on the site?
Brewer: Yes.
Warshauer: They were in the right -of -way.
Dobosiewicz: It is my understanding that there are no additional building permits being sought so
my recommendation is you get the needed landscaping issues resolved within the
next 30 days to proceed with the Letter of Grant and Inspection.
Feltner: The District has not received plans on the proposed parking area on the site. This
location is not currently served by the District, but is in our service area. Property
owner will want to check with the District for future connection to the sewers.
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Docket No. 04090043 PP: Bella Terra.
Docket No. 04090044 SW: SCO 6.3.20 Private Streets
Filed by Gary Murray of Mid States Engineering
REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER:
Brad Walker, BP DEVELOPMENT
Patric O'Connor, BP DEVELOPMENT
Gary Murray, MID STATES ENGINEERING
Chad Karum, MID STATES ENGINEERING
Comes now Bella Terra, Primary Plat. The applicant proposes 8 residential lots on 8.44 acres.
The Petitioner also seeks the following Subdivision Waiver: The site is located at the northeast
corner of 106 and Towne Road. The site is zoned S1 /Residential.
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Murray: 106 and Towne there is an existing abandoned house that will be torn down and
clean up of the corner. The subdivision is served by a frontage place and we are
proposing that the frontage place be private maintained by a Homeowners
Association.
Hoyes: I faxed G. Murray a comment letter. You cannot detain on the lots by County
Ordinance so upsize the pipes for storage?
Murray: This is dry detention so can we variance?
Hoyes: You can before the County Drainage Board. We do have an offsite, unregulated
Watershed that cuts across the school.
Murray: We are rerouting down the property line.
Griffin: We sent you a letter. Issue with entry of the frontage place intersection will you be
bumping down?
Murray: We will potentially look for a variance. We are having complications getting
satisfaction from Engineering, Fire and Emergency, and bus traffic is an issue. So
we are working through it to please everyone.
Dobosiewicz: Who has the issue and what is the issue?
Murray: This distance from the centerline of that (pointing to the plan)... to the centerline
of that, is shorter than... (interrupted).
Dobosiewicz: A driveway over to the lots is okay with everyone, how far back?
Broermann: 200 feet.
Murray: We are very close at 185 feet.
Dobosiewicz: Make it whatever S. Broermann is asking. You do not want to get caught up in
Plan Commission over fifteen feet.
Murray: The other practical issue is the median we do not want to ask for a cut.
Griffin:... and we do not want to see another access point in there.
Dobosiewicz: Can you show us a better rendering when you submit to the Board where the
concrete median centering exists how that accesses the roadway? We would
support a Subdivision Waiver from that requirement.
Shupperd: We have Gas across the street.
Dobosiewicz: What I want to acknowledge in regard to the existing path along Towne Road
make sure that you have a good idea of how that path intersects the two access
points. It wants to be concrete. The asphalt does not want to be lapped up against
the side of your roll curb.
Broermann: I sent you a letter. We do not have a problem with the streets remaining private as
long as they are built to County Standard. You will need an agreement on the
maintenance however to show how that works out.
Dobosiewicz: No gates.
Broermann: Address maintenance and we will want to see that before approval will be given.
Murray: It will be in the Covenants.
Broermann: We need to see that.
Gajownik: Will you be naming if off the frontage road?
Hoyt: Please address it off Towne Road.
Duncan: No comments.
Hoyt: I will pass this letter to you about Hydrant markers.
South: I sent you a letter. Soils information rerouting channel should require IDEM Water
Quality Permit. It is over the one (1) acre threshold so you will need to submit a
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Pollution Prevention Plan for the project. Detention scheme current layout looks
good on Water Quality Practices.
Brewer: We met on site and I am waiting for your update plans to comment.
Dobosiewicz: Make sure you have a specific plan in place for tree preservation it will be held up
at the Plan Commission if you do not. Call out the fence detail. G. Murray I would
call -out for the Plan Commission your proposed Covenants and Restrictions on lot
sizes and home sizes. The City's plan for Towne Road is the same as Hazel Dell
Parkway and although this may not affect you across your frontage anticipate the
increased level of traffic along Towne Road more buffering will be encouraged. tie
distance of access points into that single Waiver.
Feltner: Sanitary Sewer Construction Plans need to be submitted for review by the
District's Engineers. Please submit two sets of plans to the District and two sets for
review by the District's Engineers. District Project Application needs to be
completed and sent to the District. An IDEM Construction Permit will be needed.
All IDEM submittal information should be provided following the District's plan
review.
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Docket No. 04090045 ADLS: O'Malia Fireplace
Filed by Paul Reis of Dreary Simmons Verne, LLP
REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER:
Paul Reis, DREWRY SIMMONS VORNEHM
Gary DeBoy, DEBOY LAND DEVELOPMENT
Stacy Hosler, DEBOY LAND DEVELOPMENT
Comes now O'Malia Fireplace, Architectural Design, Lighting and Signage. The applicant seeks
approval of a building and parking lot expansion. The site is located at 220 South Range Line
Road. The site is zoned B -1 /Business and is within the Old Town Sign Boundary Overlay.
Reis: The Carmel Redevelopment Commission (CRC) owns the north parcel, formerly
known as the O'Malia's Bakery scheduled for demolition soon. The Petitioner
wants to add on to existing Fireplace Shop for additional display area. We are
filing a site plan in hopes to eliminate the curb cut and place a commercial curb cut
on the south. If we can come up with a development plan agreement with the CRC
for access from the north we will do that.
Hoyes: Need drainage calcs and when you reach the construction phase show me how it
will get to the Legal Drain?
DeBoy: There is an existing tile to the north. We plan to sheet drain, outlet, and meter to
the Outlet Drain. Tile connects to the drain.
Griffin: No comments.
Shupperd: Passing contact sheet to you. No comments.
Duncan: Right -of -way calls for additional fifteen feet (15'). Building shift make sure you
have enough... (interrupted).
Reis: We will be going to the BZA on this. Wanting to sheet drain into a Bio -swale
opposed to curbing to funnel it in. We may need to discuss this with you.
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DeBoy: We would maintain curbing in this scenario out towards Rangeline in that area
once you come to the parking area that would allow us easier access and green
areas from a detention and Storm Water Quality issues.
Dobosiewicz: Can we configure the ten (10) spaces and flip them ninety degrees against the
building?
DeBoy: Yes.
Dobosiewicz: You would get two more spaces.
DeBoy: Okay.
Dobosiewicz: I prefer that if you are considering not to curb. We are opposed to the curb cut on
Rangeline we would like it to go away.
Reis: I will negotiate with the CRC then. We will get an agreement from the CRC on the
dedication.
Dobosiewicz: We would also support outdoor display off center of the building. Board of Public
Works approval will be required for the drive.
Hoyt: I sent you a letter. I would like a Knox -box on the building.
South: This is less than one (1) acre disturbed. No comments.
Brewer: I did not forward my comments because I did not get... (interrupted).
Reis: I guess the first issue is; 26.04 Where required; the Buffer Yard Requirements, B -1
does not have a buffer yard requirement. Notwithstanding, we want to get a
landscape plan that will satisfy the City.
Brewer: Okay.
Dobosiewicz: I am going to ask for things to be called out; colors, building materials identified,
specs on signage, specs on lighting, specs on wall packs, cut sheets, get that
landscape plan issue resolved, show all sides of dumpster; need larger area site
map for the Plan Commission maybe you can get that from Les Olds, elevations
for the existing to the rear of the site, fencing, and we need more detail on the
patio area. How much distance is there from the sidewalk from the building?
DeBoy: We will double -check that.
Blanchard: Each required accessible means of egress shall be continuous to a public way. The
means of egress, including the exit discharge, shall be illuminated at all times the
building space served by the means of egress is occupied. Will there be a
Construction Trailer, Model Home, and /or Temporary Sales Office? If so, it will
need a Temporary Use Permit. Applications are at the office of Building and Code
Enforcement on the 1 St floor of City Hall. A pre submittal meeting will be required.
No Building Permit will be issued before the pre submittal meeting. You may get
a copy of the pre submittal checklist and commercial procedures on our web site:
www.ci.carmel.in.us Make sure you have all agencies' approvals prior to
contacting Sarah Lillard for your pre submittal meeting: Slinard@ci.carmel.in.us
After your pre submittal meeting it is normally 10 days before your company will
be issued a permit.
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Docket No. 040100001 SP: Cherry Creek Estates Section 5 Secondary Plat
Filed by William Bryant of Stoeppelwerth Associates
REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER:
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Bill Bryant, STOEPPELWERTH ASSOCIATES
Comes now Cherry Creek Estates Section 5, Secondary Plat. The Petitioner seeks to plat 50
residential lots on 23.2 acres The site is located at Cherry Creek Boulevard. The site is zoned
S1 /Residential. This is the last section of Cherry Creek Estates.
Hoyes: Sent letter to you to keep us updated with plans as you make changes.
Griffin: We sent you a comment letter, no further comments.
Bryant: I had a question on number nine?
Dobosiewicz: That is with the Developer. They agreed to curb the center median on Cherry
Creek Boulevard. They need to get with Engineering and make those
arrangements.
Bryant: I spoke with Platinum already.
Dobosiewicz: They need to provide us with estimated cost or make the improvements. The other
issue to the north are we closer to resolving that?
Bryant: No.
Griffin: Then number ten, Red Cedar Way is needing a median.
Dobosiewicz: We can work with this for a center median install. G. Duncan do you have these
plans?
Duncan: No.
Dobosiewicz: This intersects with Haverstick I suggest they incorporate some type of median
for alignment.
Duncan: I will look at it
Shupperd: We have Gas out there.
Duncan: We faxed comments to you. Second item, Article 14, are you clear on that? Inlets
aligned with lot line potential for an Inlet in a driveway.
Bryant: There should not be a problem. We have the Driveway Placement Plan from Pulte.
Hoyt: I sent a fax no further comments.
Dobosiewicz: Can you build this section of the curb and roughly twenty feet back from the
entrance this would be curbed (pointing to the plan) and in that curbing backfill
against the backside of that dress it up nice so we do not have to come back later
and modify the intersection if curb was added we would add it further south. I
want to verify that this point is consistent with the point in Haverstick with an
existing monument.
South: Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan is approved.
Brewer: I need a complete set of plans. This plan does not have the complete Section Five.
I also need the Graphic Detail and Preservation Plan for this Section. Mark specific
trees on your Construction Plans so the person that gets these plans knows what
trees go where during installation. Call out specifically which tree is which. You
show twelve (12) Ash trees need species change cannot plant Ash. Explain why
you substituted Golden Line for a European Hornbeam? You also show thirty
(30) Hawthorn on plant list but are not shown on plan. They cannot be planted
within ten feet (10') of sidewalk/path or street. Tree Planting Detail show language
as "Plant root flare at grade level' and add, "Stakes need removal within one
year
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Dobosiewicz: There are stakes still in the ground at Hazel Dell north side of 131S Street can you
get someone out there to take of it?
Brewer: Okay.
Dobosiewicz: A portion of the street crosses the property that is owned by the utility for the
Wellhead has that been formally transferred into right -of -way?
Duncan: It is being taken of, we are looking for dedication by plat.
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Docket No. 04100003 SP: Village of WestClay, Section 5002 Secondary Plat
Filed by Brandon Burke of Schneider Corporation
REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER:
Brandon Burke, SCHNEIDER CORPORTION
Kevin Krulik, BRENWICK DEVELOPMENT
Comes now Village of WestClay, Section 5002, Secondary Plat. The Petitioner seeks to plat 48
residential lots on 12.1 acres The site is located at the southeast corner of 131 and Towne
Road. The site is zoned PUD. It is a remaining piece of the Development and surrounded by
previously approved Sections 5003 to the south and 5001 to the east. This Section will finish the
corner of 131 and Towne Road.
Dobosiewicz: Has mass grading been approved?
South: Yes.
Hoyes: Sent you a comment letter. Our office had concerns on the pond. Did that meet
one of our standards? It appears to be without a five -to -one slope or safety ledge.
Burke: We will look into it.
Griffin: I faxed comments to you. Are Horbeck and Greencroft private?
Burke: They are all public streets.
Griffin: Make sure you note the right -of —way on those. What about the path along 131 and
Towne Road?
Burke: The intent is to have internal sidewalks. We are in negotiation with Engineering on
street improvements. We understand based on the Thoroughfare Plan the ATP
System but there is requirement there and we will work that out first.
Dobosiewicz: There would not be a change on the east side of Horbeck or the south side of
Greencroft. Currently the Construction Plans do not identify sidewalk along those
two streets all along the east and south side of this (pointing to the plans) and is
it typical that the sidewalk is butted against the curb?
Burke: We will look into it.
Shupperd: We have Gas out there.
Duncan: The pond in the reconstructed location we will review that for size.
Hoyt: I sent you a fax. We need Hydrant markers so please show those on the plans. I
will get you a standard on them from the County.
South: The Storm Water Pollution Plan for this Section is approved. Do a better job on
Post Water Quality Description.
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Brewer: Need Landscaping Plan sent to me on this Section. You have several species listed
on the plan that are no longer allowed.
Burk: Can you send me a letter on that?
Brewer: I will e -mail you.
Dobosiewicz: To recap, address the issue on sidewalk, approaches of allies should be constructed
in concrete, and get with S. Brewer on the landscaping. We are going to ask that
the pins at the corner of the Plat not interior corners of this section be concrete
monuments.
Feltner: Plans have been reviewed by the District Engineers. District Project Application
needs to be completed and sent to the District. An IDEM Construction Permit will
be needed. All IDEM submittal information needs be provided since the District's
plan review has been completed.
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Docket No. 04100002 TAC: Carmel Dad's Club: Concession Stand
Filed by Sheila Wakelam of Paul I Cripe, Inc. for Carmel Dad's Club.
REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER:
Kevin Roberts, PAUL I CRIPE
Frank Hindes, PAUL I CRIPE
Comes now the Carmel Dad's Club Concession Stand, TAC only item. The applicant seeks to
construct a Concession Stand building. The site is located southeast of the intersection 126
Street and Shelborne Road. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence. We are constructing approximately
1,000square feet, two -story building of masonry construction with sloped shingled roof. Lower
level is concessions and restrooms with a small area as a training room. Upper level will be open
for office and storage.
Roberts: We are taking Sanitary Sewer out to the existing Lift Station. We are bringing
water in from the existing pipe out west of the site. May need to upgrade pipe size.
Electric off existing site and we will connect to City water.
Hoyes: I sent comment letter to K. Roberts; need to look at lateral Sanitary to make sure
it is outside the Regulated Drain Easement. If it is not we may need a Non-
enforcement.
Roberts: On comment number three, future or additional impervious surfaces will require
complete drainage study. Does that mean any type of development?
Hoyes: We will look at it when it happens.
Hines: We may have to go larger than 1,900 square feet of impervious. What is the
threshold?
Hoyes: I would say over 3,000 square feet of impervious you will need the calcs.
Dobosiewicz: What are the materials on the building?
Hines: Pole Barn with metal siding. Quick- brick, load bearing, CMU Units similar to the
Transportation Building. Hip roof, asphalt shingles, windows in the upper level and
overhead coiling doors at concession areas with single doors into restrooms.
Dobosiewicz: Proposed fencing?
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Hines: No.
Griffin: No comments.
Shupperd: Will you anticipate using service? If you think you will we can do another meter
set from the Soccer Field Maintenance Building but you will need to run your own
fuel line. Jerry Breech is your contact.
Roberts: Delivery pressure?
Shupperd: Sixty (60) pounds up to the meter.
Duncan: I faxed comments to Sheila Wakelam. Check with the Utility Department on the
link of the lateral Sanitary service. You may need an extension on the main.
Dobosiewicz: Is there anything planned to protect clean outs? How high out of the ground will
sit the clean outs? Can you identify them so we do not have trip hazards?
Roberts: They will sit at 2/10 but we will look at it.
Hoyt: We would request a Knox -box on this. Your second floor is 1,000 square feet? If
you go bigger than 1,500 square feet you will need to sprinkle the building.
South: It appears disturbed is less than one (1) acre so no prevention is needed.
Brewer: I did not receive any Tree Preservation or Landscape Plans was that intentional?
Hines: We do not plan to landscape around the building due to access. Around the
building is a heavy degree of access around the building with quite a bit of paved
area.
Dobosiewicz: Where is the perimeter of the stone parking?
Hines: (pointing to plan). Here.
Brewer: You will need perimeter buffering shown.
Dobosiewicz: I have an issue with the location of fuel tanks next to existing building. G. Hoyt do
they need that approved?
Hoyt: They should be contained for spillage. I will make a visit on the site. We have a
tank issue at the other Dad's Club Field.
Dobosiewicz: It needs protection.
Blanchard: A pre submittal meeting will be required. No Building Permit will be issued before
the pre submittal meeting. You may get a copy of the pre submittal checklist and
commercial procedures on our web site: www.ci.carmel.in.us Make sure you
have all agencies' approvals prior to contacting Sarah Lillard for your pre
submittal meeting: Slillard@ci.carmel.in.us After your pre submittal meeting it is
normally 10 days before your company will be issued a permit.
Feltner: Recent plans received need to be revised. Contact will be made with Cripe
Engineering on required changes. Building Permit should NOT be issued unless
the District has issued a Connection Permit and any work on the sewer connection
will require a District Permit and Inspection. A District Project Application needs
to be submitted along with Construction Plans for review.
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