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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Sub 11-04-041,1`I y G`'`y of Cq,9y C ity CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE November 4, 2004 REPRESENTING THE CITY: Stephanie Blackman Rick Ripma Dan Dutcher REPRESENTING THE DEPARMENT: Michael Hollibaugh Angie Conn Docket No. 04070034 Z: Traditions on the Monon PUD Filed by Jim Shinaver of Nelson Frankenberger REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER: Jim Shinaver, NELSON FRANKENBERGER David Leazenby, BUCKINGHAM DEVELOPMENT Gary Murray, MID STATES ENGINEERING Chad Karam, MID STATES ENGINEERING Jeff Pape, CENTEX HOMES REMONSTRATORS: Stella Teague 121 Smokey Row /8 h Street NW Timothy Stewart LEWIS KAPPES Dariya Tolpygin, 30 8 Street NW Jane Graham, 135 8 Street NW The applicant seeks to rezone approximately 11 acres from R -1 /Residence and B-2/Business Classifications to PUD /Planned Unit Development. The site is located northwest of 136th Street and Rangeline Road. Required changes requested by the Committee from our last meeting as follows. Exhibit 2, of your brochure is an aerial of the site. The changes to the PUD Document Exhibit 4, redlined draft shows the changes made. Additional changes made to Page 5, Section 6.4, Density; as of the last meeting we were in the process of securing additional parcels, which brings us to 12.2 acres with 140 units. Section 6.5, Square Footage Requirement, we made the commitment that the Townehomes would be a minimum of 1,400 square feet. Page 6, Section 8.3, Landscaping Provisions; did not appear last time we were asked by the Department to break down landscaping references into sections, changing minimum base plantings eight (8) shrubs increasing to twelve (12), one (1) shade tree increasing to two (2) per unit. Page 7, Sections 8.4 and 8.5, Perimeter Buffering and Interior Plantings; included those section changes as well. The final S:\PlanCommission\CommitteeMinutes\Subdivision\20004novO4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 change under Section 9, Paragraph 6, Street Lighting; changes made to make language clearer that lighting will be provided near the intersections of streets and alleyways and along the Monon and Main, as well as 136' Street. Leazenby: Behind tab 3, is the site plan and the new boundaries are here (pointing to the map). New site plan to allow 140 units and takes into account Old Town layout and guidelines along with the Art District to flow with that identity using more courtyards, narrow streets, and parking behind the garages to reflect the Old Town flare. Tab 5, Appendix A; overall context of the site in relationship to the planned roundabout at Smokey Row and Rangeline regarding the on -street parking. The sign entrance in theory will be on the north side of the roundabout. Appendix B; the radius for school buses and maneuvering through the site and roundabout was judged good. Appendix D; guest parking ratio is in line with our calculations. Appendix E; we added land bank parking with total parking to 430 or 5.07 ratio plus on- street parking much like Old Town. Appendix F; driveway lengths 15 -17 feet enough space to park a car although it is not allowed. We intend to plant tree wells and trees in the alleys. Appendix H; lighting through the site, indicated by the asterisk, at the intersections, courtyards, and along the Monon —the lighting fixture is labeled. Demographics provided by Centex gave us some comparables from a similar project in Boone County median age mid 30's to low 40's with 61 percent income upwards $100,000.00 with 2/3 employed executives. Trail extension design is not yet defined although we do have a conceptual drawing from the Feasibility Plan. We are making the commitment to provide the necessary right -of -way when Engineering gets those figures. Shinaver: We are presenting this to the Parks Board at their next meeting. Dutcher: The other issue you should anticipate addressing is the specific access of your residents to the trail. We will want to discuss that further. Department: One additional request is that you show the perimeter trees not the interior on the Landscape Plan and clarify the number of plantings for each lot on the Exhibit; with that the Department recommends forwarding to the full Plan Commission. Blackman: We will take comments from the Public. (Instructions to the Public) Teague: What is the design for 8"' Street NW? Leazenby: This will be a City of Carmel project and is about two years away from a design. Teague: I have concern that the road will be too close to my home with on -street parking. Leazenby: Parking on the north side only. Stewart: I represent Dariya Tolpygin. She lives where the new trees are going in and is worried about the impact on her home. Graham: Off -street parking? Will there be sidewalks also? Leazenby: Yes and very similar to the Townehomes at City Center Drive. Stewart: Where will the land bank parking be located? Shinaver: We will get with you on that. Blackman: Committee comments? Ripma: Size minimum on trees? Shinaver: Page 6, Section 8.1, 2 %2 caliper and seven (7) feet high at planting. Leazenby: You had asked last time if one (1) light was enough? One (1) Photocell light on the door illuminates the front of the units. Ripma: How is the drainage handled? Leazenby: We are creating a pond to slow the water to direct into the creek. Effect is zero. S :\P1anCommission \CommitteeMinutes \Subdivision \20004nov04 2 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Blackman: Are we comfortable moving forward? Ripma: I am fine with it as long as they address the public issues. Blackman: Make it contingent upon meeting with the resident Dariya Tolpygin because she just learned about the development. Dutcher: Move for approval with condition of meeting with resident Dariya Tolpygin. Ripma: Second. Motion carried; three (3) in favor zero (0) opposed. ...END... Docket No. 04080059 PP: Saddlebrook at Shelborne Primary Plat Filed by Steve Hardin of Bingham McHale LLP REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER: Matt Skelton, BINGHAM MCHALE Michael Stikeleather, LEEDS LLC Robin Tucker, LEEDS LLC Kevin Roberts, PAUL I CRIPE David Lach, PAUL I CRIPE REMONSTRATORS: Sam Tancrity, Oaktree Way Bill Olsen, Oaktree Way Mike Alrick, Shelborne Road Dave Tutora, Oaktree Way The applicant seeks to plat a residential subdivision of 77 lots on 61.21 acres. The site is located at 11901 Shelborne Road. The site is zoned S 1 /Residence. We have been working with neighbors and staff to finalize the Landscape Plan and prepare a Tree Preservation Plan. The staff requested to add additional trail connection to West Park and we did that. Trail constructed of Dusky 12 type to match the connection at West Park. It was also requested we submit commitments for the right -of -way improvements along Shelborne Road and we submitted that to Jon Dobosiewicz along with the Engineer's estimates. Blackman: Can we hear from the Department? Department: The location of the entrance on Shelborne Road and use of adjacent property to the south.... Skelton: We have worked out details with those neighbors. Department: Location of the entrance? Skelton: Same. Department: Department recommends forwarding to the full Plan Commission. Blackman: Any comments from the Public? (Instructions to the Public) Sam Tancredi: Concern about undergrowth on my property line. I do not want to lose my fence or underbrush screening. I would like to discuss this with the Developer. We are not on board with this plan. Olson: We would like Sewer and Water brought to our neighborhood. S:\PlanCommission\CommitteeMinutes\Subdivision\20004novO4 3 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Mike Ulrich: My drive is in the way of the turn lane not only will I lose my front yard it could get into our septic. Totoura: We too would support the Sewer and Water connection. Stikeleather: We are open to working with all the residents in the area. Blackman: Comments from the Committee? Dutcher: I would like you to get a commitment from the Parks Department on the connection to West Park that they will be okay with the connection as it relates to the other undeveloped 40 acres on the other side. We will want to see that the Tree Preservation and Landscape Plans have been approved. There is also concern expressed about the intersection of 116 h Street and Shelborne Road. What is the status? Hollibaugh: We are finalizing the design on the intersection first thing next spring. That is all we have available at this time. We can make that known to the Plan Commission. Dutcher: These issues on buffering, water and sewer and the driveway have not been addressed enough for me to comfortably move this forward. Ripma: Can the Department explain how the water will be connected across the street? Hollibaugh: It will be an issue between Clay Regional Waste, the Developer and the homeowner. Lach: We are working to extend that interceptor main to get those sewers to the homeowners and to the adjacent properties. We will coordinate with the Developer. Ripma: Should we be concerned about the decel lane? Skelton: We are working with Engineering on this and hoping to coordinate with the City on this improvement. Blackman: We want to see written commitments on the availability of Water and Sewer. Dutcher: Additional discussion with neighbors on the buffering, accel/decel lane, connection piece trail approval by Parks and the Landscape /Tree Preservation Plan approval. I would like all those issues resolved when you come back. Continued to November 30, 2004 Subdivision Committee. ...END... Docket No. 04080044 PV: West Carmel Center, Block F, Lot 1 Docket No. 04080052 PP: West Carmel Marketplace Primary Plat Docket No. 04080053 SW: SCO 6.03.15, 2 Street Layout and Design Standards Filed by Mary Solada of Bingham McHale REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER: Mary Solada, BINGHAM MCHALE Greg Ewing, BINGHAM MCHALE Diane Schembre, DUKE REALTY Tom McLaughlin, DUKE REALTY REMONSTRATOR: Amber Carson, Resident of North Augusta The applicant seeks to plat a commercial subdivision of 11 lots on 61.609 acres. The petitioner also seeks the following Subdivision Waivers: The site is located at 9901 Michigan Road. The site is zoned B2/Business and B3/Business, and is within the US 421 Overlay. S:\PlanCommission\CommitteeMinutes\Subdivision\20004novO4 El ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Solada: We are here to plat this Development. The Subdivision Waiver is for the alignment to Commerce Drive. We have an agreement with Hamilton County Highway for the 300 radius alignment. Block F, of the Plat of Target Center needs vacation to subdivide for our lot. We are addressing concerns made by the residents of New August regarding well contamination by our project. Schembre: We would commit to a five (5) year agreement to repair homeowner's well or septic if certified that we were the direct cause of said failure. Solada: We would hope to be sent back to the full Commission with the understanding that we have worked out this language. Schembre: We have approval for landscaping. Another issue from the homeowners is the berm. The location of the pond keeps us from creating a berm. We have been advised that for every feet of rise you need three feet (3') of slope and can only plant on the top of the rise. We sent the Plan Commission the layout of what it would take to create a berm and part of the berm will need to go on the homeowner's properties. We are still waiting for a response. At this point, we have agreed to stake where the boundary line is and the tops of the ponds. The community will look at it to see if they want any portion of the berm on their side and at what height they want the berm. If it can be done it will. Department: Impact of wells, buffering and screening should be addressed when the petitioner returns with Block G —those are not issues tonight. The Department recommends forwarding to the full Plan Commission with a favorable recommendation. (Here followed intense discussion and no satisfactory resolution regarding the berm. Blackman: We expect that you (Duke Realty) honor your commitments. Comments from the Public? (Instructions to the Public) Carson: (integrity of commitments by Duke Realty challenged.) We are waiting on preliminary written commitments for the wells and septic. Duke is still willing to create a berm. Blackman: According to Duke ultimately the berm will be your (the homeowners) decision. If they have the room to create it Duke will do it. If they do not and they will need to encroach on your land to create it, it will be the neighborhood's call. Dutcher: This looks good. I would like to get in writing the support for the berm and wells. (disappointment expressed over the informal discussion of the berm.) I am ready to move forward tonight. Approve Docket Number 04080044PV Lot 1, Docket Number 04080052PP and Docket Number 04080053SW contingent upon written agreements related to the berm and available engineering and commitment to well support. Ripma: Second. Motion carried; three (3) in favor zero (0) opposed. ...END... Docket No. 04060026 Z: Carey's Addition, Lot 9 (pt) Filed by Carl Jennifer Hartmann REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER: S:\PlanCommission\CommitteeMinutes\Subdivision\20004novO4 5 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Carl Hartmann, Owner Jennifer Hartmann, Owner REMONSTRATOR: Phil Andres, 111 First Street NE Donald Hall The applicant seeks to rezone this lot from R -3 /Residence to B -1 /Business within the Old Town Overlay Character Sub -area. The site is located at 105 First Avenue NE. Blackmann: Alley access do you have a plan illustrating parking with the proposed use? C. Hartmann: The access to the alley is not affected. Blackmann: Landscaping changes? C. Hartmann: The Department told us to wait. Blackmann: The Department Report reflects lacking in the parking and landscaping. I will need to see something in writing before I can move this forward. J. Hartmann: We did submit a new plan (pointing to exhibit). Dutcher: We do show you have two parking spaces in the drive. Department: Talked with Urban Forestry they are working on a plan. This will be a rezone with the SDR approval as the next step. After all concerns are addressed recommend forwarding to the full Plan Commission. Blackmann: Comments from the Public? (Instructions to the Public) Andres: Upset people use my driveway as a turn around. Parking on the street makes it difficult for me to maneuver out of my driveway. Hall: Four (4) cars in behind the house? J. Hartmann: Yes, we can get five (5) if we use the garage. Hall: We are going to be overburdened with parking and increased traffic. Blackmann: I would like to see a written commitment from the Hartmann's regarding prohibition of the driveway at 111 First Street NE to employees as well as a sign inside stating the same. Hartmann: Okay. Blackmann: How many employees? Hartmann: Three (3) at the most and clients by appointment only. (continued parking discussion.) Ripma: Where will the clients park? C. Hartmann: Five (5) spaces on the street and four (4) in the drive. Dutcher: Would you be willing to commit to using the garage as parking at some point? Hartmanns: Yes. Ripma: Motion to move forward to the Plan Commission Docket Number 04060026Z contingent upon the approval of the Landscaping Plan and written commitments on the driveway. Dutcher: Second. Motion carried; three (3) in favor zero (0) opposed. S :\P1anCommission \CommitteeMinutes \Subdivision \20004nov04 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 The meeting adjourned at 9:03 PM. Stephanie Blackman, Chairperson Pam Babbitt, Subdivision Secretary S:\PlanCommission\CommitteeMinutes\Subdivision\20004novO4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417