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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Sub 11-15-07of CA �VNONE y�A C i t y RTOMORROW o /NDIMAN CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 2007 LOCATION: DOCS CONFERENCE ROOM TIME: 6:00 P.M. CARMEL CITY HALL, 3rd FLR DOORS OPEN AT 5:30 P.M. ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, IN 46032 Representing the Committee Rick Ripma, Chairperson Jay Dorman Eric Seidensticker Carol Schleif Sally Shapiro Representing the Department Adrienne Keeling Mike Hollibaugh Lisa Stewart Of Counsel: John Molitor Rick Ripma, Chairman called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. The Subdivision Committee will meet to consider the following items: 1. Docket No. 07050023 OA: Monon Trail Overlay Zone The applicant seeks to adopt Chapter 231-1: Monon Trail Overlay Zone into the Carmel Zoning Ordinance. Filed by the Carmel Department of Community Services. Adrienne Keeling presented for the Department. This is a follow up meeting to complete the review of the Monon Trail Overlay Zone. Adrienne stated she had made the changes suggested at the November 1, 2007 meeting and everyone has a corrected copy. Sally Shapiro discussed a request from Engledow that the provision to prohibit commercial greenhouses in section 231-1.04 be revisited. This was approved by the Committee, commercial greenhouses will be permitted. Page 1 of 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 November 15, 2007 Plan Commission Subdivision Committee Agenda At this time a long, lengthy and challenging discussion began on the areas of ground that are designated C1 /C2. Some members of the Subdivision Committee felt that the Committee needed to have more input into this section. However, still others on the Committee, along with Mike Hollibaugh and John Molitor indicated that the C1 /C2 district is an area that has been designated by the City Council as a Carmel Redevelopment Commission project area and it is within the CRC's jurisdiction to determine what will be built there. If the Committee is interested in seeing plans for this area, Les Olds, Director of the CRC should be contacted to either attend a Subdivision Committee meeting or a full Plan Commission meeting. Some Committee members continued the conversation and requested clarification on building height and separation. These members indicated that it was unfair and frustrating to try and make decisions when they did not have all the information. Again, it was clarified that this area is outside of the Committees' jurisdiction. The meeting then continued with discussions relative to areas outside C1 /C2. Adrienne began her review of building height and setbacks. She indicated that different setbacks will be used for the urban and natural section. Based on the previous meeting, Adrienne has made changes, which have been distributed to the Committee. She reviewed the changes in 23H.05.01 through 23H.05.02 The area was reviewed on visuals provided by both Adrienne and Carol Schlei£ These visuals outlined different setbacks, etc. This led to discussion of separation of buildings on the same parcel. It was determined that the provision will remain the same. Many different drawings were reviewed and opinions were voiced. It was stated that it is not reasonable to try and micromanage the entire area. Also clarified was that this ordinance will supersede the underlying zoning. This statement can be found 1S page, paragraph 3.. Adrienne will make the changes in the ordinance. This will not be presented at the Plan Commission meeting and then forwarded on to the City Council. John Molitor explained that this is a 2 step process. The first step is the text amendment, and the second step will be to rezone the parcels. The Overlay will not apply until after the rezone is complete. Jay made a motion to adopt Docket No. 07050023 OA: Monon Trail Overlay Eric Seidensticker seconded the motion Approved 5 -0 Sally Shapiro made a motion to adjourn Eric seconded the motion Meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m. Page 2 of 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 November 15, 2007 Plan Commission Subdivision Committee Agenda Rick Ripma, Chairperson Lisa Stewart File: SUB 2007 -1115 SPECIAL Page 3 of 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417