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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes SpecStdy 10-04-051,1`I y G`'`y of Cq,9y C o CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 4, 2005 Minutes Members present: Jerry Chomanczuk, Wayne Haney, Mark Rattermann, Steve Stromquist. Department of Community Services Staff in attendance: Matt Griffin, David Littlejohn. Also in attendance: John Molitor, Legal Counsel Docket No. 04090045 ADLS: O'Malia Fireplace The applicant seeks approval of a building and parking lot expansion. The site is located at 220 South Range Line Road. The site is zoned B-1/Business. Filed by Paul Reis of Drewry Simmons Vornehm, LLP for Helen J. O'Malia Truste TABLED TO NOVEMBER 1, 2005 2. Docket No. 05060013 ADLS Amend: Carmel Office Park Building 4 The applicant seeks to construct a 10,105 square foot office /warehouse build and associated parking- The site is located at 389 Gradle Drive and is zoned I -1 /Industrial Filed by Mark Settlemyre of Foresight Engineering. TABLED TO NOVEMBER 1, 2005 3. Docket No. 05070021 ADLS Amend: Burger King Exterior The applicant seeks approval for exterior modifications (painting and roofing.) The site is located at 613 E. Carmel Drive and is zoned B -8. Filed by Robert Cripe of Peabody Painting for Burger King. Rick Mensa, G.C. Project Manager for Burger King Indianapolis area appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Burger King would like to keep the blue roof and the yellow striping on the building. The walls would be beige. Department Comments, Matt Griffin. Matt reported that the original agreement only mentioned the play area and planting screen in front of the facility. The plantings also screen the building to some degree. There is really no specific mention regarding the building. The Department feels that the B -K S :/P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005 oct04 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 color palette should be in line with everything else on Carmel Drive —earth tones —and not break that trend that has already been established. Last month, an application was filed to remove the playground equipment and replace it with outdoor seating and new landscaping. We would rely upon the large screen wall to block any views of the building. The shrubbery is important to the Commission as well as a pleasing color palette from the road. Jerry Chomanczuk said he was hopeful that Burger King could come up with a color scheme that would blend in with the area and yet retain its identity. Jerry Chomanczuk would like to see the project limited to three colors —of the petitioner's choice and the petitioner was agreeable. Wayne Haney voiced no objection. The outdoor seating area may have umbrellas on the tables. Mark Rattermann made formal motion to approve Docket No. 05070021 ADLS Amend, Burger King Exterior with the stipulation that the petitioner is limited to a total of three colors on the exterior, seconded by Steve Stromquist, APPROVED 4 in favor, none opposed. Note: The playground equipment will be removed as a part of the renovation. 4. Docket No. 05080008 ADLS Amend: KinderCare Learning Center Signage The applicant seeks approval for a new ground sign. The site is located at 10616 Lakeshore Drive and is zoned S -2. Filed by Bill Hutchison for Hutchison Signs and Electric Co. TABLED TO NOVEMBER 1, 2005 5. Docket No. 05080023 ADLS Amend: Two Parkwood Firestone Signage The applicant seeks approval for a new wall sign. The site is located at 310 East 96 Street and is zoned B -6. Filed by Steve Granner for Bose McKinney Evans LLP. TABLED to November 1, 2005 6. Docket No. 05090005 ADLS Amend, Penn Wood Office Park Olson Center for Wellnesss The applicant seeks approval for a new wall sign. The site is located at 11495 N Pennsylvania, Suite 100 and is zoned B -5. Filed by Lisa Bohn for Lisa Bohn Associates, Inc. Lisa Bohn, Lisa Bohn Associates, 9200 Keystone Crossing, Suite 425 appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Approval is being requested for a wall sign for Olson S:/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005oct04 2 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Center for Wellness located at 11495 North Pennsylvania Street, Suite 100. Currently, there is no signage on this building. The sign is in compliance with the Ordinance. Raceway details have been provided Department Comments, Matt Griffin. As shown, the sign complies with the Ordinance. The Department has no concerns at this time and is in support of this sign. In response to questions from Jerry Chomanczuk, Lisa Bohn stated that the Olson Center for Wellness was founded by a Doctor at St. Vincent Hospital in the Bariatric Unit. The center includes a fitness facility, weight training, nutrition, life -style management and physical fitness training. Wayne Haney thought the sign was attractive and he was in favor of it. Mark Rattermann made formal motion for approval of Docket No. 05090005 ADLS Amend, Penn Wood Office Park Olson Center for Wellness, seconded by Wayne and APPROVED four in favor, none opposed. 7. Docket No. 05090007 ADLS Amend: Teresa Chapman State Farm Insurance The applicant seeks approval for a new wall sign. The site is located at 14 W Main St. and is zoned B -2. Filed by Teresa Chapman for Teresa Chapman State Farm Insurance Teresa Chapman appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. There is a slight change in that the window graphics will no longer apply. The only item requested for approval this evening is the hanging sign that is 3X3 nine square feet that is square with red and white State Farm colors. Department Comments, Matt Griffin. There was some question regarding the window graphic and that has been addressed. Wayne Haney commented that the sign is not in keeping with the character of Old Town. The street signs at least have a border around them and it adds a little character. Matt Griffin commented that the sign could be more elegant in the Old Town area perhaps a routed base sign or framing element. The petitioner agreed to add a border and round the corners of the sign. The telephone number shown (including the area code) is OK. Mark Rattermann moved for approval of Docket No. 05090007 ADLS Amend, Teresa Chapman State Farm Insurance, with modifications to make the sign similar to the two -hour S:/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005oct04 3 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 parking sign in Old Town with rounded edges and a border, seconded by Steve Stromquist, APPROVED 4 in favor, none opposed. 8. Docket No. 05090011 ADLS Amend: Clairvoyant Psychic Readings Signage The applicant seeks approval for a new wall sign. The site is located at 10 Nappenee Dr. and is zoned B -7. Filed by Marie Ziko for Clairvoyant Psychic Readings. OFFICIALLY WITHDRAWN 9. Docket No. 05060053 ADLS: Weston Pointe Retail Center The applicant seeks approval for multiple commercial/retail buildings. The site is located at 11055 N. Michigan Rd. and is zoned B -2 /Business within the US 421 Overlay. Filed by Ronald Bell of Williams Realty Group for PL Properties, LLC. Ronald Bell of Williams Realty Group appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. This particular building will be the main retail center with landscaping and signage —the bank will come in separately. However, the bank is working with the petitioner for brick selection and colors. Some of the architectural features on the site will be carried through with the bank building. George Small, architect addressed the Committee and explained the design, materials and color selections. The base of the building up to three feet will be a cast stone product, then a bull -nose accent band that transitions to the face brick and another accent band of cast stone at 9 feet that will transition into the dryvit material that will be a lighter color. At the crown molding, the dryvit will be a darker material. At the storefront, there will be a brown awning to accent the other colors with an off white, aluminum storefront with bronze tinted glass. The rotunda element will be glass; there will be an outside courtyard for seating between the two buildings that would be a nice element for a restaurant. There are awnings on the back to match the front. The doors will be painted to match the light dryvit and the gutters will be painted to match the brick. There are several tower elements throughout to break up the facade and help create a little interest. Mr. Bell stated that the landscape plan was approved by the City Urban Forester with the changes in material plant types as well as additions and locations. Department Report, Matt Griffin. The HVAC unit should be fully screened from all sides. Also from the photometrics the Department has, it is difficult to tell but assume that the light levels drop off at the property line. Otherwise, the Department has no outstanding issues. George Small said the HVAC is below the parapet wall and will not be visible at all. Mr. Small confirmed Matt's understanding of the photometrics and offered to submit a larger copy that would show more detail. S:/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005oct04 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 The signage is all white, internally illuminated with bronze channel letters. The logos will be addressed one at a time. Matt Griffin commented that a logo is limited to 25% of the total allowable sign area. Mark Rattermann made formal motion to approve Docket No. 05060053 ADLS, Weston Pointe Retail Center, including signage according to the Ordinance and a logo standard, seconded by Steve Stromquist, APPROVED 4 -0. 10. Docket No. 05090008 ADLS: Allen Office Building Weston Point Retail Center The applicant seeks ADLS approval for a 4 tenant office building. The site is located at 11055 N. Michigan Rd. and is zoned B -2 /Business within the US 421 Overlay. Filed by Nicolas Quintana of Sebree Architects for Williams Reality Group. Ken Sebree, Sebree Architects appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Also in attendance: Gordon Allen, Prudential/Allen Office Building (Prudential Real Estate Franchise.) Ken Sebree gave a brief overview of the single Allen office building within the Weston Pointe Retail Center. The dumpster is basically bricked all the way around and gated in front. There is no rooftop HVAC equipment; it is on the ground to the rear, much like a single family residence with an outdoor condensing unit. The condenser will have landscaping to screen plus a row of evergreen -type shrubs on the opposite side of the rear access sidewalk. Department Report, Matt Griffin. The Weston Pointe Retail Center came in as one large block, Development Plan and ADLS. At the last meeting, the Committee was comfortable with the DP portion, but not the ADLS. The Development Plan has been approved as well as the landscape plan. What we are looking at for this particular site is the architecture for this building and the screening for HVAC. Is the signage for review at this time or will the petitioner return? Ken Sebree said the signage shown actually exists at its current location. Prudential Allen would like to move it to the future location. Note: The Petitioner will return for signage approval and will show detail at that time. Jerry Chomanczuk questioned the design of the building as opposed to the overall center. Ken Sebree said the building is 7,000 square feet with parapets, trim, and arched openings. Brick colors will be used with trim color similar and complementary to the design of the overall center. Jerry Chomanczuk commented that looking at the doorways /entry ways where a sign could be placed, it seems there are perhaps 7 areas where signs could be displayed on the facade. Mr. Sebree responded that there are only 4 doorways, and a maximum of 4 tenants are anticipated. There would be 4 individual, air conditioning compressors. S:/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005oct04 5 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Steve Stromquist made formal motion to approve Docket No. 05090008 ADLS, Allen Office Building at Weston Pointe Retail Center, seconded by Mark Rattermann, APPROVED 4 -0. 11. Docket No. 05090017 ADLS Amend: Huntington National Bank The applicant seeks approval for the replacement of an existing ATM kiosk. The site is located at 10585 N. Meridian St. and is zoned B -5 /Business within the US 31 Overlay. Filed by Aaron Carrico for Huntington National Bank. Brian Delaney, appeared before the Committee on behalf of the petitioner. Huntington National is seeking approval to replace the canopy and front facia of an existing ATM kiosk and repaint. The security doors and louver panel on the front would also be removed and replaced. Department Concerns, Matt Griffin. What will the new signage look like— color, dimensions, etc. Any signage in excess of three (3) square feet requires a permit. Some of the signs may even require a variance, but the Department needs to see the detail —what is new signage on site? Mr. Delaney said that Huntington National Bank is undergoing a change in appearance and will have a new color scheme and logo. The sign at the front and the approach will be illuminated. The dimension of the logo is 12X50. The ballards will also be cleaned up and painted. Matt Griffin responded that the logo is too big -12X36 would not be an issue. The Department would like to see the signage comply with the Ordinance and within the three square feet. Matt asked about the signage on top of the canopy and the signage on the unit itself. The petitioner committed to stay within the 3 -foot signage. The sign material canopy is aluminum; "Huntington" is a cutout painted with green —the white is acrylic, 30% translucent. The other signs are basically white paint on aluminum. Steve Stromquist made formal motion to approve Docket No. 05090017 ADLS Amend, Huntington National Bank, subject to compliance with the Sign Ordinance, seconded by Wayne Haney, APPROVED 3 in favor, none opposed. (Mark Rattermann was out of the room at the time the vote was taken.) 12. Docket No. 05090018 ADLS Amend: Elegant Motors The applicant seeks approval for a vestibule addition to the building front facade. The site is located at 770 E. 106 Street and is zoned B -2 /Business within the Home Place Business District Overlay. Filed by Del O Amy of Elegant Motors. Dennis Byrum, Manager at Elegant Motors appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. The petitioner is seeking approval for installation of a vestibule addition to the building S:/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005oct04 6 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 front facade located at 770 East 106'' Street. The property is within the Home Place Business District Overlay. As a result of the road widening on 106 Street, access to the front door is somewhat limited. Access would be much easier if there were a vestibule in the center of the building. Dennis Byrum said the roof material would match the rest of the building and the exterior finish of the vestibule would be painted blue and blend with the building. The glass doors were recently installed. The existing concrete blocks are light blue. The petitioner was agreeable to putting a clear sealer on the rough -sawn cedar. As yet, there is no formal signage proposal. Steve Stromquist made formal motion to approve Docket No. 05090018 ADLS Amend, Elegant Motors, seconded by Mark Rattermann, APPROVED three (3) in favor, none opposed, one abstaining. (Haney) 13. Docket No. 05080006 DP /ADLS: Home Place Second, lots 256 -258 247 -248 Weihe Engineers) The applicant seeks building addition and site expansion approval. The site is located at 10505 N College and is zoned B -1 /Business within the Home Place Business Overlay. Filed by Mark Swanson Associates for Weihe Engineers. Mark Swanson, Mark Swanson Associates Architects, appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Also in attendance: Dennis Lockwood, Architect, Mark Swanson Associates; Pat Sheehan, Alan Weihe and Jamie Shinamen with Weihe Engineers and civil engineers for this project. The project is an office addition for the current office located at 10505 North College. Weihe Engineers has been at this particular location since 1972. The site is zoned B -1 /Business and is within the Home Place Business Overlay. The proposed addition is atrium glass area in the center and the building to the north of the existing two -story building. The addition will be stone veneer to match the existing, steel structural frame and concrete floors. The building is located on College Avenue; the addition is to the north, the existing offices are to the south. Currently, parking is to the south of the existing offices; additional parking will be located to the east of the property. Department Report, Matt Griffin. The proposed addition is in complete compliance with the Zoning Ordinance and the Department is happy with the efforts made by the petitioner in terms of landscaping and the addition to the existing building. The only outstanding issue that the S:/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005oct04 7 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Department has currently is one small comment about the sidewalk and how it relates to some landscaping. Mark Swanson responded that the landscaping has been pretty much resolved. A revised landscape plan was submitted to Scott Brewer showing the sidewalk that wraps around an existing tree. The tree is in the right -of -way of Jessup Blvd. However, it looks as if the tree can be saved. The petitioner is awaiting formal approval from Scott Brewer. Matt Griffin commented that the only signage currently is the large address numbers that are not compliant with the Ordinance. However, the address numbers were approved when the original building was approved and it is looked at as approved signage that functions as address numbers. There is no "sign" for Weihe Engineers and the interpretation is that the street numbers function as a sign; the Department is comfortable in allowing this to continue. Mark Rattermann said he would like to see the Ordinance changed to allow address numbers to be larger and function as signage. It is pretty important for emergency vehicles to find a location and larger numbers would help. Mark asked if the aluminum cap would be changed because it looks dated. Mark Swanson said there is some work to be done on the parapet cap of the existing building. The cap will be replaced and up- dated; the screen wall will be neutral/gray tones. The parking has been increased by virtue of adding the lot to the east. Mark Rattermann made formal motion to forward Docket No. 05080006 DP /ADLS, Home Place Second, lots 256 -258 247 -248 Weihe Engineers) to the Plan Commission with a positive recommendation with the provision that the applicant has the right to change the facia around the building and trash dumpster, with staff approval, seconded by Wayne Haney, APPROVED 4 -0. 14. Docket No. 05080011 DP /ADLS: Meridian Corporate Plaza The applicant seeks approval for the site plan and buildings. The site is located at 401 Pennsylvania Pkwy and is zoned B -5 B -6 /Business within the US 31 Overlay. Filed by Fred Simmons of Simmons Architects, LLC for MCP Partners, LLC. Fred Simmons, Architect, Simmons Architects, 305 East New York Street, Indianapolis appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Also in attendance: Doug Fisher and Brian Gollmeyer, Lauth Property Group, and Tim Seitz, Simmons Architects, landscape architect. The project is bounded by I -465 to the south, Collage Avenue to the east, Pennsylvania Parkway to the north, and the Wyndham Hotel project to the west. Lauth Property Group is headquartered immediately north of the existing lake and all a part of the Unisys project that was constructed in the 1980's. The applicant is seeking approval for a Development Plan and ADLS for the entire parcel, including Meridian Corporate Plaza IIa four -story building approximately 139,000 square feet S :/P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005 oct04 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 immediately to the west of the existing Lauth building and a companion building immediately to the east. The easterly portion will be a part of Phase IIas yet there is no definitive time -line. The goal is to start construction sometime in October or early November on Phase II. The basic concept of the project is a four -story building comprised of architectural pre -cast panels along with bronze glass and EFIS structure for roof -top equipment screening. The architectural pre -cast colors are complementary to the existing brick and stone on the existing Lauth building. Regarding comments received from the Department, the petitioner is still in the process of working with Scott Brewer on the landscape plan and it is primarily an issue of tree species and some minor details. This issue will be resolved prior to the October 18 meeting of the Plan Commission. The final light fixture submittals are actually part of the original package; 25 -foot poles are being used as well as ballard lights at entrances and outdoor seating areas, and up- lighting similar to what was used for the Lauth Headquarters building. The petitioner has also submitted the revised photo- metrics to the Department. Regarding the pathway: There is an existing pathway along College Avenue and the petitioner is providing new pathways along Pennsylvania Parkway. The Department has asked for a pathway leading from College Avenue to the Meridian Corporate Plaza. The petitioner is reluctant to provide the path, primarily because they do not want to encourage people to use the lake and thereby become a nuisance. The petitioner respectfully requests that this item be eliminated from the Department Report. Deparment Report, Matt Griffin. The petitioner has met most all of the Department's requests. This project does comply with the zoning ordinance. The Department feels that if the petitioner is going through the effort of making this type of amenity for the future workers of the office building, it should be useable for all public. If there is an opportunity to make this a little better, we should investigate and try to explore that. Obviously that path connection is preferred by the City—if the path is being constructed, why not invite the public to take advantage of it and make a possible circuit. If there is a concern of "outsiders" coming into the area and using the lake amenity, that is something that can be discussed. Jerry Chomanczuk had a few questions and comments. The two new buildings brings the total square footage of the complex to approximately 199,000 and looking at the parking ratio, was there any discussion along the lines of providing at least 600 parking spaces. Another concern is that two, four -story structures newly constructed alongside a three -story structure that was built in the 1980's—it is somewhat out of place —too much out of contrast? Fred Simmons responded that they exceed the parking requirements. In round numbers, 4 per thousand are required; the goal was 5 per thousand. The newer buildings complement the existing building relative to colors and relevant configuration. S:/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005oct04 9 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Jerry Chomanczuk commented that the Committee has been asking petitioners to identify minor elements in proposed construction that incorporate "greening" into the design. Fred Simmons responded that Lauth would be at some level of lead —maybe not the top tier, but some certain level. Mark Rattermann made formal motion to forward Docket No. 05080011 DP /ADLS, Meridian Corporate Plaza to the Plan Commission with a positive recommendation, seconded by Steve Stromquist, APPROVED 4 -0. *Note: Petitioner should be prepared to address the pathway at full Commission. 15. Docket No. 05080019 DP /ADLS: Boardwalk Shops The applicant seeks to create 2 structures (1 retail, 1 office) on 2.63 acres. The site is located at the NE corner of Carmel Dr. and Adams Street and is zoned M3 Manufacturing. Filed by Adam DeHart of Keeler Webb Associates for C and L Management, Inc. Adam DeHart, architect with Keeler -Webb Associates, 486 Gradle Drive, Carmel appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Charles Key, C L Management, Inc. was also in attendance. The subject parcel has some distinct design constraints. The footprint of the building is being extended along Carmel Drive; there are now actually 110 feet of presence on Carmel Drive. Some of the entrances into the tenant areas have been re- oriented so that there will be front doors and a front facade along Carmel Drive as well as frontage facing the parking lot on the south. It is the intent that the front doors for these units will be entered off Carmel Drive. There are areas designated as large concrete space that could be used for outdoor seating or outdoor amenities such as bicycle parking. It is the intention to slightly modify the parking so as to more clearly depict sidewalk locations and re- arrange some of the landscape plantings in order to be in compliance with the Urban Forester's request. Another addition is the extension of the asphalt path at the property line to the existing entrance of The Arbors so that pedestrians can gain access and walk the perimeter of the site. The reconfiguration of the building has allowed some of the parking to be shifted and the end -cap is now a little more "user- friendly" as far as access from the east. The configuration of the small building has changed somewhat so that certain elements would typify the architecture of the City Center buildings. Access to both buildings is pedestrian friendly to persons inter connecting in both Boardwalk Shops and Park Place Center and those persons coming to the site via the pathway. The owners in Park Place Center are concerned about being able to be identified and have visibility of the S:/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005oct04 10 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 buildings from Carmel Drive. With the standards that are in place, the petitioner must provide a buffer between Boardwalk Shops and the residential neighbor. The petitioner has taken the large landscaping berm that is already in place with some plantings in place done by the Arbors and supplemented it to be in compliance with the current zoning ordinance. Charles Key is more than willing to work with any neighbor regarding connectivity in the event of reconfiguration of Arbor Drive or any new construction north of the berm. If there is connectivity worked out between the two owners, the petitioner is more than willing to forego the plantings required under the current Ordinance in an effort to make some sort of design or building addition or parking feature that would be inter- connected. The petitioner is working on a uniform centerpiece and other entrances—forest green on awnings, cast stone base on bottom, masonry and cast stone features on walls with EFIS on top and a shingled look on the building continued around the west side toward residential. On the east side toward Park Place Center, the doors have the same feature. After discussions with the Engineering Department, the petitioner is willing to accommodate on- street parking on Adams Street, however, there will need to be a lot of thought and design put into it. The Engineering Dept. will probably not want on- street parking too close to the Carmel Drive intersection. Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The location of site, south of the Old Meridian District, is somewhat a gateway to that district. To the south of this site, the property is being split into five different blocks for future development and the infrastructure is being installed. As per Carmel Engineering, the infrastructure going on to the south of this site will connect a circuit in the street to make Adams Street more a local drive than a traffic- carrying segment of the Thoroughfare Plan. Engineering would like to entertain the idea of allowing on- street parking along Adams to serve not only this development but also future offices and retail to the south. The Department would like to see something more that would play up bringing the buildings out to the street -front on both Carmel Drive and Adams Street. As originally seen, this was a typical strip retail center. The petitioner is making good strides in fitting an existing side with prior users and still trying to merge some of the ideas that the Department is asking the petitioner to explore. This building will also set a precedent on Adams Street so that future tenants to the south of Adams Street come in, we can see them play up on that element. In terms of design, the Department would really like to see a corner building on Adams and Carmel Drive, but there are some constraints with the existing site. The architecture is up for debate. Also of note is the fact that to the north is Arbors Apartment complex and a large, triangular wedge of unused green space. Buckingham has been thinking that if the street frontage along Carmel Drive is continued for planting, they may even reconfigure their property to add some more residential units to front on Carmel Drive or some sort of retail/office combination to front Carmel Drive and possibly connect to the buildings to the south. Jerry Chomanczuk asked is the signage had been reviewed and whether or not it conformed to the City Ordinance. Jerry also asked about the parking numbers. S:/ P1anCommission/ Minutes/ SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005oct04 11 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 Matt responded that they have generic signage for the site and it has been reviewed for size and it does comply with the Ordinance; the colors and lighting have not been reviewed specifically. Matt said he would verify the number of parking spaces. Wayne Haney commented that this is an extremely difficult site and the petitioner has done a good job trying to front partially on Carmel Drive and still get the amount of required parking. Mark Rattermann commented that this development is awfully big for this site. Mark Rattermann said he does not like the proposed development—if the road is ever widened, it would take part of the building. Mark Rattermann noted that the parking is not adequate for this site. There was further discussion regarding the parking, the widening of Carmel Drive at some future date, and the positioning of the buildings on the site. Mark Rattermann made formal motion to forward Docket No. 05080019 DP /ADLS, Boardwalk Shops to the Plan Commission with a recommendation for approval, conditioned upon review of the sign package, seconded by Wayne Haney, Approved 4 -0. 16. Docket No. 05090001 OA: Parking Ordinance Amendment The applicant seeks to amend the Zoning Ordinance, Chapter 27: Additional Parking Loading Regulations, in order to modify parking standards. Filed by the Carmel Department of Community Services. Adrienne Keeling, Department of Community Services, and Karen Ryg, Department of Engineering explained the language in the proposed Parking Ordinance Amendment. Adding new bicycle requirement —the language is based on the number of spaces, location and design of spaces Mark Rattermann proposed striking the "Shared Parking" language. The parking spaces must be located ON SITE —the remedy is off -site parking. Also, a 9 -foot parking space will not accommodate an SUV. No problem noted previously in bicycle parking. The number of spaces is a big issue. One space for 250 square feet of conference space is inadequate— should be one for 50 square feet or less. Church or temple —one space for 4 persons may not be adequate. The Committee members are to study the proposed Amendment, make suggestions, and get their comments back to Adrienne prior to the next Committee meeting. Docket No. 05090001 OA, Parking Ordinance Amendment was Continued to November 1, 2005. S :/P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005 oct04 12 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 There was no further business to come before the Committee, and the meeting adjourned at 9:05 PM. Jerry Chomanczuk, Chairperson Ramona Hancock, Secretary S :/P1anCommission/ Minutes /SpecialStudiesCommittee /2005/2005 oct04 13 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417