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CARMEL /CLAY PLAN COMMISSION
July 15, 2003
Minutes
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Carmel/Clay Plan Commission met at 7:00 PM in the
Council Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana. The meeting opened with the Pledge of
Allegiance.
Members Present were: Marilyn Anderson; Stephanie Blackman; Jerry Chomanczuk; Dave Cremeans;
Dan Dutcher; Wayne Haney; Ron Houck; Dianna Knoll; Pat Rice; Wayne Wilson; thereby establishing
a quorum.
John Molitor reported on the pending lawsuit with Leeper Electric concerning the ground at the
not corner of 131 and US 31. The case is now on appeal to the Indiana Court of Appeals and a
brief is being prepared for filing. The City will be appealing the evaluation of the 4 -plus acre parcel.
The Court judgment was that the City owed the Leepers $1,120,000 for their parcel of property.
Department Announcements, Jon Dobosiewicz: Correspondence has been received from the petitioner
regarding item 4i, Docket No. 79 -03 PP Amend, Treesdale Subdivision, requesting return to the
Subdivision Committee for further consideration on August 5, 2003.
Correspondence has been distributed to Commission Members this evening from various parties.
Also, the Hearthview Residential PUD public hearing was conducted last month; the petitioner made
additional notice for public hearing this evening. A suspension of the Rules of Procedure is necessary
prior to hearing this item due to less than 25 days Notice and to correct an error.
H. Public Hearings
lh. Docket No. 77 -03 Z; (03050030); Hearthview Residential PUD
The applicant seeks to rezone a 6.5 acre parcel from R -1 /Residence to a PUD
(Planned Unit Development) District designation. The property is generally
located at the southeast corner of 116 Street and the Monon Trail.
Filed by Filed by Joseph M. Scimia of Baker and Daniels for Hearthview
Residential, LLC.
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Roger Kilmer, Land Use Consultant with Baker Daniels, 96 Street, Indianapolis, appeared
before the Commission representing the applicant. The petitioner is appearing before the
Commission in order to correct an error in the legal notice procedure that came to light on July
2n The notices sent out for the June 17 public hearing were sent out NOT certified mail. The
notices for this evening's meeting were sent via certified mail and the notice was published again
in the newspaper. This necessitates the suspension of the Rules of Procedure. It is noteworthy
that State Law requires 10 days notice for publication.
There is no new information for distribution, and Mr. Kilmer requested that the public
presentation from the June 17 meeting be incorporated into this evening's hearing.
Wayne Wilson moved to suspend the Rules of Procedure and also allow the presentation made to
the public on June 17, 2003 to be incorporated into tonight's public hearing; seconded by Dan
Dutcher, approved 10 -0.
Members of the public were invited to speak in organized opposition; the following appeared:
Remonstrance /Opposed:
Bill Frey, President of Donnybrook Woods, wanted to be sure everyone had the petition and
letter from Donnybrook homeowners —the documents speak for themselves.
Jack McKown, 11525 Ralston Avenue, V -P Donnybrook Woods HOA, opposed by reason of
density, change in zoning, and character of proposed housing that will not blend with existing
homes.
Richard Maurer, 1641 Fairgreen Drive, Fairgreen Trace HOA, was opposed by reason of
increased traffic.
Sally Bratton, 11535 Ralston Avenue, Donnybrook, clarified a statement made last month by
petitioner -the petitioner's property does NOT adjoin commercial property.
Jim Peraino, 1208 Donnybrook Drive, Donnybrook Woods, is not against future growth,
however this proposal does not fit within the immediate community of single family dwellings.
Traffic on 1 16 Street is also a huge factor.
Roger Kilmer said the petitioner has been in contact with the neighborhood organizations in the
area and provided 5 different dates to meet and discuss this proposal prior to the Subdivision
Committee meeting on August 5, 2003.
The public hearing was then closed.
Pat Rice asked the petitioner to respond to Ms. Bratton's comments regarding neighboring
commercial property.
Mr. Kilmer said he did not have a zoning map readily available; however, he was aware of
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Engeldow and Telemon in the area, although perhaps not immediately adjacent —they are across
the street.
Dan Dutcher questioned the private streets rather than public and if they will be built to City
specifications.
Mr. Kilmer commented that this proposal was reviewed by the TAC committee and some
concerns were raised by the Fire and Police Departments. However, those comments have been
addressed through the design of the site. Even though the streets are being built to City
specifications, they will be private streets.
Dave Cremeans asked the petitioner to research the private street issue and be prepared to discuss
this item at the Committee meeting. The Commission would prefer public streets.
Docket No. 77 -03 Z, (03050030) Hearthview Residential PUD was referred to the Subdivision
Committee for further review on August 5, 2003 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
2h. Docket No. 93 -03 Z; (03060010);
Lockerbie Townhomes at Hunters Creek PUD (Rezone)
The applicant seeks to rezone a 5 acre parcel from R -1 /Residence and B-
3 /13usiness to a PUD (Planned Unit Development) District designation. The
property is located at the southwest corner of Rohrer Road and Marana Drive.
Filed by James E. Shinaver of Nelson and Frankenberger for Estridge
Development Company.
Jim Shinaver, attorney with Nelson Frankenberger, 98 Street, Indianapolis, appeared before
the Commission representing the applicant. Also in attendance: Mark Webber, Director of
Townehome Development for Estridge Companies, and Cort Crosby of Schneider Engineering.
The petitioner is requesting a change in zone classification of a 5 -acre parcel located at the
southwest corner of Rohrer Road and Marana Drive, from R -1 /Residence and B -3 /Business to a
PUD designation.
An aerial photograph of the site was displayed and outlined in white. This property was
previously the location of the Carmel Brethern Church; however, the church no longer owns this
property and the building is vacant. This site was previously attempted for rezone by Hunters
Creek Office Park. At that time, Hunters Creek was seeking a change in zoning to permit office
use on this site. The attempt by Hunters Creek to rezone this property was unsuccessful and the
Estridge Companies is now under contract to purchase this ground.
During the public hearings for the Hunters Creek proposal, the site was described as a troubled
site with multiple personalities. The following observations were made at that time.
The eastern portion of the real estate is zoned R -I and the western half is zoned B -3; however,
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the property is also located within the US 31 Overlay Zone which prohibits residential uses and
many B -3 uses. To the south is the Meridian Village Shopping Plaza that could be described as a
heavy commercial use, and to the north, east, and west are residential subdivisions. Finally, to
complicate the matter, the Comprehensive Plan designates this parcel as a regional, commercial
employment area within the US 31 corridor. Needless to say, this property can serve, and must
serve as an important buffer and transition from the heavy commercial uses to the south and to the
residential uses to the northeast and west.
During the rezone hearings for the prior office park proposal, the surrounding neighbors of
Hunters Creek South clearly stated their desire for some sort of residential use over a commercial
use for an office park. With this in mind, the Estridge Companies designed a townehome project
that is believed to achieve the important buffering and transitional purpose to the surrounding land
uses. Estridge has worked very hard to involve the neighbors of Hunters Creek South in this
zonmg process.
The applicant has met with the Hunters Creek South HOA Board of Directors, conducted a
neighborhood open house for all surrounding property owners who received notice of tonight's
hearing, and exchanged and provided information to the HOA Board pursuant to their request.
The Estridge family has been developing residential developments in this area over 30 years and it
is very important for them to not only build a quality development but to also be a good neighbor.
Here follows a description of the townehome proposal. The development will consist of nine (9)
buildings containing 34 townehome units, sold to buyers via fee simple conveyance. The units are
not rentals and they are not apartments. The individual purchasers will be owners in fee simple.
The anticipated base price range is expected to be between $170, and $220,000; however, based
on Estridge's sales data, it is typical for their purchasers to spend another $5 to $15,000 on up-
grades and improvements to their units. The approximate square footage for the townehomes will
range from approximately 1,460 square feet, excluding the garage, to 2,245 square feet, again
excluding the garage area.
Estridge's marketing data suggests that there is a high demand for this type of product in this
area, and they anticipate sales of the townehome units will be swift. The project will be governed
by covenants and restrictions that will be enforced by a homeowners' association. Regarding the
landscaping, there is meaningful landscaping not only along the perimeter of the entire site but
also around the individual building units and internal to the site itself. The landscape plan has
been reviewed by Scott Brewer, Urban Forester. Subject to some revisions and adjustments, the
proposed landscape plan is sufficient and desirable.
Because of the target buyer, the project also includes many aspects of maintenance -free living
such as fully irrigated lawns; regular lawn maintenance, including mowing, fertilization; pruning of
trees and shrubs; planting, mulching and weeding; and replacement of plants in the front beds. The
exterior maintenance includes caulking, painting, brick, siding and roof repair, and structural
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insurance for the building shell. Snow removal within the project will also be provided as well as
common area maintenance and trash removal.
Mark Webber, Director of Townehome Development for the Estridge Companies, addressed the
Commission and described building materials and architectural features associated with the
project. This particular product is currently being built in Westfield. Some architectural features
include garages to the rear and large front porches. Each residence has a very distinct entry -way
roofline that varies from townehome to townehome. Additional architectural detail includes bay
windows and standing -seam copper roofs. The actual building is a brick -wrap all around with the
addition of brick gables to the second story line—in some cases all the way up to the gable itself.
False dormers have also been added to break up the structure of the roofline. The main body of
the roof is an 8/12 pitch, every other gable /entry is a 12 -12 pitch. There are three different
building products being proposed; 2 different four -unit buildings, a three -unit building, and a total
of 5 different available floor plans. The actual siding product being used is neolight, an
architectural shingle -style look that is maintenance free. The windows are high performance,
single -hung with internal grills, and brackets in the gables. The exterior trim is an engineered
wood product, pre primed, termed Smart Trim. The townehomes have an extensive 3 -year
warranty.
Jim Shinaver summarized by saying Estridge has listened to the surrounding neighbors of Hunters
Creek South and proposed a residential buffer or transition to the heavy commercial use to the
south and the residential neighborhoods to the north, east, and west. The applicant concurs with
the Department Report that this development proposes qualities that are superior to the type of
transition achieved under the current zoning. It is also recognized that this townehome proposal
is not necessarily consistent with what is contemplated pursuant to the Comprehensive Plan' any
revision or amendment to the Comprehensive Plan for this specific parcel of real estate must be
initiated by the Department for referral to the Plan Commission. Therefore, the petitioner is
requesting the Department to initiate an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan only for this
specific parcel of real estate. This particular townehome product can be seen in a community
known as "Centennial," located north of 146 Street and adjacent to Springmill Road, and
members of the Commission are invited to preview the existing townehomes.
Members of the public were invited to speak in support of this petition; the following appeared:
Remonstrance /Favorable
Dave Lambdon, 13824 Laredo Drive, president of Hunters Creek South HOA, said they have
met with the Estridge Group and had open dialogue and accessibility to plans, etc. The petitioner
has been considerate, courteous, and open to the ideas expressed by the Hunters Creek South
HOA. The Hunters Creek South HOA voted unanimously to support this proposal with a few
minor reservations. Those reservations are not with Estridge but with the City of Carmel and the
fact that Rohrer Road has become a "major thoroughfare" and in need of traffic control regarding
the speed of vehicles. Also, the HOA feels that a streetlight is warranted at the corner of Rohrer
Road and Marana Drive. Also, parking along Marana Drive is a major concern as well as safety.
The HOA requests a "no parking zone" on Marana Drive from Rohrer Road to Laredo Drive.
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Members of the public were invited to speak in opposition to the petition; no one appeared and
the public hearing was closed.
Marilyn Anderson had kudos for the petitioner in working with the neighbors to resolve issues
before their appearance at the Plan Commission.
Jon Dobosiewicz, Department Report. The Department believes the proposed use offers an
appropriate transition from the residential uses to the north and the commercial uses to the south.
However, the use is technically not in compliance with the City's Comprehensive Plan that would
call for the area to be identified as regional commercial employment within the US 31 corridor
Overlay. Pursuant to State Statute, the Plan Commission is to give reasonable regard to the
Comprehensive Plan. In past deliberations on this property, the Commission sent an over-
whelming, negative recommendation on a previously proposed use to the City Council. It is not
necessary to amend the Comp Plan for this one particular parcel, but it is something that we need
to make account of and make a part of the record that we did give reasonable regard to the Comp
Plan. The proposed use provides a transition that the residents to the north are more comfortable
with, i.e. a higher intensity, residential use. The Department did receive a traffic report from the
petitioner that indicates AM peak use will generate 23 trips; PM use will generate 26 trips
approximately one fourth of the traffic generated by the proposed office development last year.
As previously stated, any single development will require action by the City Council in the form of
a rezone, whether by a PUD or rezone to another zoning classification within the district.
Wayne Wilson commented that this site is unique and does not really front Meridian Street but
sandwiched behind. Mr. Wilson said he had worked with the Hunters Creek neighborhood on the
previous proposal, and Mr. Wilson was complimentary of the residents and the petitioner for
coming forth with a win -win for all involved.
Ron Houck asked about the fencing shown in the front yard on one of the exhibits and suggested
the Committee discuss where this might be allowed relative to US 31. Also, exhibits B 1 and B2
appear to have different construction materials. Is this true, and will all 9 buildings be the exact,
same design? Will there be any variation in regard to brick or color or any material other than
brick?
Mark Webber responded that the fencing is not proposed on this particular project, but was
shown as installed on a previous project. The different look on the B -1 exhibit is a poor quality
photo. All buildings are the exact, same color brick, trim, siding, etc. There is no variation in the
architectural scheme. There are three different building types within the nine buildings. There are
different lengths of buildings and different architectural elements.
Dan Dutcher referred to the street lighting mentioned earlier and asked the Committee to review
this particular item.
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referred to the Subdivision Committee for further review on August 5, 2003 at 7:00 PM in the
Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
3h. Docket No. 94 -03 DP Amend /ADLS; (03060011);
Three Meridian Plaza First Indiana Bank (Amended Development Plan)
The applicant seeks approval to construct a drive -thru banking facility. The site is
located at 10333 North Meridian Street. The site is zoned B -5 Business and is
within the US 31 Overlay Zone.
Filed by Steven B. Granner of Bose McKinney Evans for First Indiana Bank.
Steve Granner, Zoning Consultant with Bose McKinney Evans, 600 East 96 Street, appeared
before the Commission representing Phoenix Mutual Life Insurance Company, owner of Three
Meridian Plaza and First Indiana Bank, a tenant in the Plaza. Also in attendance were Ken Tershe
of First Indiana Bank and Kevin Zeller with CSO Architects.
Steve Granner apologized for eliminating the overall site plan from the informational packets.
First Indiana Bank has purchased Metro Bank and the petitioner previously appeared before the
Special Study Committee to replace the previous sign.
The plan shows the existing building; Meridian Street to the west, 103 Street to the south,
Pennsylvania Street is to the east. Three frontages do create some constraints for this site. The
proposed drive -thru bank is located near the northeast corner of the site. As a part of the
proposed development, some on -site changes are being made. Along 103 Street, there are two
existing curb cuts —one will be eliminated, thereby providing one access point on 103r Street and
reconfiguring the parking and aisles within the area. The landscape area and landscaping within
have also been increased.
As a part of the drive -thru bank, there is a new, proposed point of access on Pennsylvania Street.
The Technical Advisory Committee indicated that as Pennsylvania Street is up- graded, there
would be a median at this location and the new point of access would be a right in/right out.
The petitioner is requesting for both a Development Plan Amendment and the ADLS approval for
this site. The proposed sign on the east /west facades will be the same green color as the signs on
the main building. The color of the material used in the drive -thru bank will be exactly the same
as the office building, silver, metal. The parking has been reduced around the drive -thru and
additional landscaping has been added.
Two variances are required for this project. Accessory structures must be 25 feet behind the
established building line, and in order to comply, the structure would have to be immediately
north of the building and would put it closer to US 31. The applicant feels it is better to have the
structure closer to Pennsylvania and farther away from US 31, and a variance for setback has been
filed. The second variance is to enclose the bottom portion of the sign with the same silver /metal
skin.
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Regarding the right -of -way along Pennsylvania, the applicant has not yet met with the City
Engineers, but that issue will be addressed prior to the Committee meeting in August. The
lighting portion of the ADLS will also be dealt with at the Committee level.
Members of the public in support of the petition were invited to comments at this time. No one
appeared except the following for questions and /or comments:
Jennifer Eberhardt, 10302 N. Delaware, questioned if there were to be an entrance from 103r
Street to parking lot. Also, Pennsylvania Street up -grade happens, at what point will it happen
and. This is a heavy traffic intersection, and it is possible it will be increased. Ms. Eberhardt is
not opposed to the bank, but asks for increased signage and additional lighting for safety
purposes.
Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. The petitioner has addressed most all concerns. The new
entrance on Pennsylvania will require BPW approval through the Engineering Dept. There will be
a drive off of 103r currently that is a "U" shaped drive with two points of ingress /egress. This
proposal reduces that to a single ingress along 103r Street. Regarding the lighting, there are wall
pack fixtures shown in the packets and these are not appropriate for this site. The Committee
should review. The Department is recommending this item for forwarding to the Special Study
Committee for action on August 5th
State Granner confirmed that there is a single access point to the site. The State's plans for the
upgrade of US 31 include closing 103r as it comes closer to US 31. The intention is that when
103r is closed, and in conjunction with the upgrade of Pennsylvania Street, the segment of 103r
between Pennsylvania to Meridian would likely be vacated and that area would be incorporated
into either the office development to the north or the south (or both.) The timing of those road
improvements is not known at this time.
Jon Dobosiewicz reported that there is no specific timeline in place for the improvement of
Pennsylvania between 103r and 106 Street. It is likely those improvements would be made
either in conjunction with or prior to the improvements or closure of 103r onto Meridian Street.
At that point, 103r would "T" into Meridian and the intersection would be reconfigured and the
"round abeam" at that intersection would be eliminated.
Ron Hock asked the net effect of parking loss /gain through reconfiguring and how that impacts
the parking requirement for this structure originally. If there is a loss, what is the impact to the
existing use of parking?
Docket No. 94 -03 DP Amend /ADLS, (03060011), Three Meridian Plaza, First Indiana Bank
(Amended Development Plan) was referred to the Special Study for further review at 7:00 PM
August 5, 2003 in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
4h. Docket No. 100 -03 CPA; (03060017);
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Alternative Transportation Plan (ATP) Amendments
Petitioner seeks a favorable recommendation on an amendment to the ATP portion
of the Comprehensive Plan.
Filed by the Department of Community Services for the Carmel/Clay Alternative
Transportation Committee (COAT).
Laurence Lillig of the Department of Community Services appeared before the Commission
representing the applicant. The Bicycle Route Plan was distributed to Commission members.
The revised plan now shows the following: 1) Additional parks that were missing from the
original plan; 2) White River has been added to the east side of the community; 3) The Greenways
Trail at Cool Creek has been added as a future trail as has the connector between West Park and
126 Street; and 4) The paths at Springmill Road and 136 Street have been changed from
facilities to be constructed within two year to existing facilities. The Bicycle Route Plan is
intended to be a bicycle user's guide and will be adopted into the Alternative Transportation Plan.
The "ATP" has been revised several times. First is the Meadowlark Park Trail extension just
south of Smokey Row Road between Meadowlark Park and the Monon Trail. Next is the Old
Meridian area that is a part of the Old Meridian District Ordinance and refers the user to the Old
Meridian District Ordinance to see the specifics of the trail plan for that area. The 30 -foot right
of -way for dedicated trails has been added to the legend. The White River Greenway has been
extended to 106 from 126 Lakeshore Drive East has been up- graded to a shared roadway path
106 Street has been amended to reflect the Hamilton County Highway Department's plans. The
Village of WestClay commercial area has been added and a shared roadway and path is
recommended for this area. The Cool Creek North Trail has been revised to reflect the preferred
route. Springmill Road has been up- graded from a shared roadway, path and sidewalks to a
separated, parallel, multi -use path that would take bicyclists off the street and onto a separate 10
foot asphalt path, and separated grade pedestrian crossings at 106 Street and Michigan Road.
These are all part of the plan to link the Carmel trail system to the Zionsville trail system and take
bicyclists across 106 Street without having to cross the State highway at grade. The legend for
the overpass and interchange locations along US 31 have been amended the interchange locations
call for separated grade pedestrian crossings. This is in response to the US 31 draft and
environmental impact statement released last month. The Department would like greater
attention paid to how pedestrians and bicyclists cross the divide.
The Thoroughfare Plan has been amended to eliminate the road where the path is located between
College Drive and Ditch Road. The Department would still like to see a path connected at this
point.
Finally, the amendment reflects the separated, parallel, multi -use path at the new collector road at
96 Street and Shelbourne Road,
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
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Dianna Knoll asked for a definition of separated grade pedestrian crossing.
Laurence Lillig responded that separated grade is a means of separating the grade of the roadway
and the level of the pedestrian crossing for greater safety. An example would be the 146 Street
bridge where the pedestrian/bicycle crossing is up on a paved level approximately 8 inches above
the road grade.
Ron Houck asked about the separated, parallel, multi -use path. It is understood that there is a
difference in dimension, no minimum right -of -way width, but is it separated from the roadway and
if so, by how much?
Laurence Lillig explained that the separated, parallel, multi -use path refers to the 10 -foot asphalt
paths that would go inside the right -of -way. The separation from roadway would depend upon
the amount of right -of -way, determined by classification of the road, but typically between 3 and
5 feet.
Dianna Knoll noted that the separated grade crosses Keystone at 7 points —how is that going to
look?
Laurence Lillig responded that this is not an amendment but a carry -over from the previous ATP.
If this plan is implemented as proposed, there will be seven pedestrian bridges, east to west,
crossing Keystone.
Pat Rice moved to suspend the Rules of Procedure, seconded by Dan Dutcher, approved 10 -0.
Pat Rice moved for approval of Docket No. 100 -03 CPA; (03060017) Alternative
Transportation Plan (ATP) Amendments. The motion was seconded by Ron Houck and
Approved 10 -0.
I. Old Business
li. Clay Terrace (Development Signage)
Docket No. 19 -03b ADLS;
The applicant seeks approval an overall signage plan for the Clay Terrace
development. The site is located at the southwest corner of US Highway 31 and
East 146 Street.
Filed by Mark Jang of Lauth Property Group.
Paul Reis, 5013 Buckeye Court, Carmel, attorney for the applicant, appeared before the Plan
Commission. Also in attendance was Joe Downs, Vice President of Development Operations for
Lauth Property Group.
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The petitioner presented the sign package for Clay Terrace to the Special Study Committee on
July first. The sign package covers both the overall development signage within the development
as well as tenant signage package wherein all tenants must comply. In the course of the review,
the Committee requested that the petitioner provide designated areas for bicycle parking together
with the appropriate signage for that use, and the petitioner agreed to do so.
The Committee voted a favorable recommendation to return this item to the full Commission.
Dianna Knoll reported for the Committee. There have been many meetings and review of this
proposal and the petitioner has been very workable in meeting the Committee's requests. The
Committee voted 7 -0 to return this item to the Commission with a favorable recommendation.
Jon Dobosiewicz said the Department is recommending approval of the ADLS as revised and
forwarded by the Committee.
Ron Houck moved for approval of Docket No. 19 -03b ADLS, Clay Terrace; seconded by
Wayne Wilson and APPROVED 10 -0.
2i. Docket No. 69 -03 DP /ADLS; Carmel Cemetery
The applicant seeks approval to construct an addition to a cemetery. The site is
located at 1000 North Range Line Road. The site is zoned R -1 /Residence within
the US 31 Overlay Zone.
Filed by Ronald L. Bussell for the Carmel Cemetery Association.
Ron Bussell, attorney, 703 Pro -Med Lane, Carmel, appeared before the Commission representing
the applicant. Also in attendance was Todd Andrews, manager of the Carmel Cemetery.
The petitioner met with the Committee on July 1, 2003 and has revised the layout from the initial
submission. The setback on the southwest border is shown as 30 feet, and there is a 15 -foot
utility easement that now runs along that particular border. There is an additional setback that
allows for landscaping beyond the utility easment —the total of the setback is 30 feet. The
required setback for residential is 45 feet and the petitioner has filed with the Board of Zoning
Appeals for a change in the setback requirement.
The part of the Monon Trail is an additional 60 feet before it reaches any residential property. On
the southern border is a section set aside for the Cool Creek Trail--45 feet at the west side
tapering down to 20 feet at the east side. An additional 10 feet of setback has been provided for
landscaping purposes.
It is agreed with the Cemetery Association that the portion for the trail will be dedicated to the
City in fee simple title.
The borders along the east and south have been increased to the 15 -foot setback as required by
Ordinance for adjoining a business district. In addition, the portion that adjoins US 31 has a 90-
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foot setback requirement and is appropriate at this particular time. However, when the State has
determined its needs, the petitioner may return to request additional ability to place cemetery
spaces in a portion of the 90 -foot setback. For now, the petitioner is using the 90 -foot setback
and the driveway is being slightly modified outside the 90 -foot setback area.
The landscape plan presented to the Committee has one variation and that is the area along the
Cool Creek Trail —shown as being on the north side of the trail rather than on the actual border to
the land. The White Pines shown on the plan will be substituted with Norway Spruce.
The Committee also had comments regarding the rules of the cemetery and the upkeep and
maintenance. The Cemetery Association agrees that the upkeep and maintenance needs to be
enforced according to its rules, and this will be solidified in a meeting of the Cemetery Association
Board of Directors prior to the BZA meeting on July 28
In addition to the setback changes for the Board of Zoning Appeals, the petitioner will also be
requesting a Use Variance from the BZA to use space as a cemetery.
Dave Cremeans reported for the Subdivision Committee. The main points were the change from
White Pine to Norway Spruce, dedication of an easement for the trail along the southern portion,
and the preparation and submission of a commitment regarding the Maintenance of the existing
cemetery. The Committee voted a favorable recommendation, 6 -0.
Jon Dobosiewicz said the Department has received a letter dated July 98 that addresses the three
conditions specified by the Committee. The Department is recommending approval, subject to
those three conditions.
Ms. Rice said she had not seen the Maintenance Agreement. Jon Dobosiewicz offered to make
copies of that Agreement prior to the BZA meeting.
Dianna Knoll asked why this property is still zoned R -1 rather than P -1. Jon Dobosiewicz said
that neither the Department nor the petitioner has moved forward with a request to rezone to P -1.
The request before the BZA next month covers property within the 31 Overlay, and no Special
Uses are permitted, including cemeteries. A cemetery would require a land use under the BZA.
Ron Houck asked for clarification of the 90 -foot right -of -way along US 31 and whether or not
the applicant is dedicating land. Also, returning at a later date for use of additional space is a
question.
Jon Dobosiewicz responded that the 90 feet is a build -to line on US 31 that is established for
structures within close proximity to US 31. The State initially requested a waiver or variance
from that standard, and the State came back with a letter asking that the City maintain the 90 -foot
line setback, not a future right -of -way, but a setback.
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Dave Cremeans moved for approval of Docket No. 69 -03 DP /ADLS, Carmel Cemetery,
conditioned upon incorporating Norway Spruce into the landscaping, dedication of a trail
easement along the south property line, and a written commitment regarding the maintenance of
the cemetery; seconded by Pat Rice. The motion was APPROVED 10 -0.
3i. Docket No. 70 -03 ADLS; Alexandria
The applicant seeks approval to construct a multi family development. The site is
generally located south of 131 Street between Old Meridian Avenue and
Pennsylvania Street. The site is zoned Old Meridian Multi Family (OM -MF).
The petitioner also seeks approval of the following Zoning Waivers:
70 -03a ZW ZO 20G. 04.05(D) parking space size
70 -03b ZW ZO 20G.04.02(B) private streets
70 -03c ZW ZO 20G. 05.02.D(3) brick exterior requirement
70 -03d ZW ZO 20G.04.06.C(1) planting strip /parking setback
Filed by Paul G. Reis of Drewry Simmons Pitts Vornehm for Edward Rose
Properties, Inc.
Paul Reis, attorney with Drewry Simmons Pitts Vornehm appeared before the Commission
representing the applicant. Mike Gorman, Steve Horman and John Houchin of Edward Rose
Properties were also in attendance.
The petitioner met with the Special Study Committee on July 1, 2003 to review final revisions to
the ADLS application package in response to issues raised at Committee concerning the streets
and parallel parking. The revisions also addressed the concerns of the City Engineer's office with
respect to street width and also the parallel parking.
Following review of the revised plans, the Committee requested that all streets would be
constructed to City specifications and the petitioner has agreed. The Committee then voted 5 -2 in
favor of forwarding this matter to the full Plan Commission with a favorable recommendation. In
addition, zoning waivers in harmony and purpose with the Old Meridian District Ordinance were
also reviewed. The waivers do not adversely affect emergency vehicle access or deprive
adjoining, non commercial properties of adequate light and air.
Dianna Knoll reported for the Special Study Committee. There was a lot of discussion regarding
parallel parking, size width depth, and constructing the private streets to City specifications. The
Committee felt comfortable in forwarding this to the full Commission with a favorable
recommendation.
Wayne Wilson had voted in opposition to this Docket at the Committee level. Mr. Wilson said he
did not believe the quality of development was acceptable. This is not viewed as an up- scale,
apartment complex, and the applicant is not being held to standards utilized in other projects such
as Amli and Providence at Old Meridian. The concern is architectural in nature, loss of brick on
the back, and knowing that sooner or later the City inherits all private streets, and City streets
would require further modification. At some point in the future, the City will have to deal with
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the private streets.
Jon Dobosiewicz reported for the Department. Approval is recommended of Docket No. 70 -03
ADLS, Alexandria, 7 -03a ZW, parking space size, 70 -03c ZW, brick exterior, and 70 -03d ZW,
planting strip /parking setback. The Department is also recommending approval of Docket No.
70 -03b ZW, subject to the streets being constructed to City specifications and further subject to
review and approval by the Department of Engineering and Board of Public Works.
Dianna Knoll felt that the product was improved by removing the brick from the back and that it
gave some relief to the building— perhaps a matter of personal preference.
Ron Houck moved for approval of Docket No. 70 -03 ADLS, Alexandria, seconded by Jerry
Chomanczuk and APPROVED 9 in favor, 1 opposed (Wilson.)
Ron Houck moved for approval of Docket No. 70 -03b SW, Alexandria, private streets, subject
to the construction of the private street to City standards and acceptance and approval by the City
Engineer and Board of Public Works. The motion was seconded by Dan Dutcher and
APPROVED 9 in favor, 1 opposed (Wilson.)
Ron Houck moved for approval of Docket Nos. 70 -03a ZW, parking space size, 70 -03c ZW,
brick exterior requirement, and 70 -03d ZW, planting strip /parking setback for Alexandria,
seconded by Dan Dutcher and APPROVED 9 in favor, 1 opposed (Wilson.)
4h. Docket No. 79 -03 PP Amend; (03050040); Treesdale Subdivision
The applicant is requesting approval of an amended Primary Plat to allow a private
street. The site is located on the east side of Towne Road, 1/2 mile south of 106th
Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence Very Low Intensity.
The petitioner also seeks approval of the following Subdivision Waiver:
79 -03a SW (03050041) SCO 6.3.20 private streets
Filed by Paul G. Reis of Drewry Simmons Pitts Vornehm for Lucky, LLC.
This Docket is being returned to the Subdivision Committee for additional review on August 5,
2003 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
Following a short recess, the Commission resumed with the business at hand.
5h. Docket No. 11 -03 Z; Danbury Common Area and other parcels (P -1 Rezone)
Petitioner seeks a favorable recommendation of a rezone from R -1 /Residential to
P -1 /Parks and Recreation on 13.69± acres. The site is located generally south of
146 Street between Dublin Drive and Jason Street. The site is zoned R-
1 /Residence.
Filed by the Department of Community Services.
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Jon Dobosiewicz appeared before the Commission representing the Department of Community
Services. The Subdivision Committee forwarded a 4 -2 vote of "No Recommendation" to the
Commission. The Department forwarded this item on to the City Council with a favorable
recommendation.
Dave Cremeans reported for the Subdivision Committee. There was a lot of discussion on this
item and a lot of remonstrance. There were a lot of issues coupled with this Docket. This
Subdivision abuts the road that is being constructed adjacent to the Lowe's site. The issue was
making the P -1 District out of a neighborhood association's common area.
Marilyn Anderson asked for clarification of the acreage involved.
Jon Dobosiewicz responded that there are three distinct parcels involved in the rezone request.
The three parcels total 13.69 acres. The owner of record for the property on the east side of the
Creek is Keith Albrecht. The owner lives in Foster Estates.
Dave Cremeans confirmed that the president of Foster Estates HOA had spoken at Committee for
the homeowners, but not for Keith Albrecht specifically and individually. The owner of the
property had said that he was going to dedicate this property and leave it in its natural state; he
was supposedly in favor of making it P -1.
In response to questions from Dianna Knoll, Jon Dobosiewicz said the Laura Vista Subdivision is
located south of the area highlighted, and developers of those subdivisions have attended previous
meetings.
Pat Rice commented that this is indeed a unique situation and her conclusion is that a rezone is
needed to preserve this land from future development and commercial use.
Marilyn Anderson agreed that the deliberations on this Docket have been difficult. The concern is
for the common area and the possibilities for future development. Perhaps, by rezoning to P -1,
the Commission can ensure that the flood plain is not built in, the trail could go through, the area
is preserved for recreational use, and the trees preserved.
Ron Houck was concerned with procedure. Mr. Houck said he is struggling with the idea of
converting common area owned by a subdivision to the P -1 zone. If the intent is to protect the
adjacent residential areas from development that potentially could encompass the Danbury area,
there are zoning standards in place in terms of buffer, etc. that would force sensitivity to the
adjacent areas as well as inter- connection of trails and things typically requested of developers. It
is unfortunate that this was all "bundled together" and it would be easier if the common area of
Danbury were not included in the original proposal in voting in favor of this rezone. As currently
structured, it is difficult to support the concept of the P -1 zone for common area of the
subdivision.
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Dave Cremeans moved to forward Docket No. 11 -03 Z, Danbury Common Area and other
parcels (P -1 Rezone) to the City Council with a positive recommendation, seconded by Jerry
Chomanczuk. The vote on Dave Cremeans' motion was 5 in favor, 5 opposed (Wilson,
Blackman, Houck, Cremeans, Haney). No decision vote.
There was discussion regarding splitting the parcels and separating the Danbury Common Area
from the mix. Ron Houck suggested removing the common area from discussion and returning
the Danbury Common Area to the Committee; Pat Rice concurred.
Dave Cremeans then moved to forward Docket 11 -03 Z, excluding the Danbury Common area, to
the City Council and vote on the two, triangular parcels. At a later date, the Danbury Common
area could return to the Commission for a vote. Wayne Wilson seconded the motion.
Following comments by Ron Houck, Dave Cremeans withdrew his motion; Wayne Wilson
withdrew his second.
It was then formally determined that this item would be split into Docket No. 11 -03a Z, and 11-
03b Z.
Docket No 11 -03a Z, Danbury Common Area, was returned to the Subdivision Committee
for further review on August 5, 2003 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
Dave Cremeans moved to forward Docket No. 11 -03b Z., the two other parcels of triangular
shape, (P -1 Rezone) to the City Council with a favorable recommendation. The motion was
seconded by Ron Houck; the vote was 9 in favor, 1 opposed (Wilson).
6h. Docket No. 12 -03 Z; 146th /just east of Danbury Subdivision (R -4 Rezone)
Petitioner seeks a favorable recommendation of a rezone from B -5 /Business to R-
4 /Residence on 4.22± acres. The site is located generally south of East 146
Street between Dublin Drive and Jason Street. The site is zoned B -5 /Business.
Filed by the Department of Community Services.
Jon Dobosiewicz appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. The Department is
recommending this item for forwarding to the City Council with a favorable recommendation. The
R -4 zoning designation is consistent with the Danbury Subdivision. A portion of the property lies
within the flood plain. The Committee forwarded this item to the full Commission with a 5 -1
favorable recommendation.
Dave Cremeans reported for the Committee. The owner of the property was notified of the
rezone but did not appear at the Committee level. There was one dissenting vote at Committee.
In response to Ron Houck's question regarding certified mail notice, Jon Dobosiewicz stated that
certified mail notice was sent to property owners within 660 feet or 2 properties deep as well as
the subject property. The property owner did receive the letter.
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Dave Cremeans moved to forward Docket No. 12 -03 Z, 146 Street just east of Danbury
Subdivision (R -4 Rezone) to the City Council with a positive recommendation. The motion was
seconded by Stephanie Blackman and Approved 9 in favor one (1) opposed (Wilson.)
7h. Docket No. 39 -02 OA, 40 -02 OA
Amendments to the Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance
Use Table Adoption Definitions Amendment (Text Amendments)
The petitioner seeks to make amendments to the structure of the Ordinance
relating to uses, add definitions and group all definitions into Chapter three of the
Ordinance.
Filed by the Department of Community Services.
Jon Dobosiewicz appeared before the Commission representing the Department. The Definitions
Amendment has been discussed for some timeit ties in all of the ordinance definitions in
Chapter 3. As opposed to labeling uses within each separate zoning district within the Ordinance
and creating cross references, a Use Table is being created that will provide for easier
dissemination by the Department as well as the public. The Department is recommending
favorable consideration and asks that the Commission forward this item to the City Council with a
favorable recommendation.
Dave Cremeans reported for the Committee. The Use Table is not perfect, but anything that is
flawed can be corrected in a "Patch" Ordinance at a later date. The Committee voted
unanimously to forward this to the Commission.
Wayne Haney commented that the Use Table is the best tool rather than going through all of the
narrative.
Dave Cremeans moved to forward Docket Nos. 39 -02 OA and 40 -02 OA, Amendments to the
Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance Use Table Adoption Definitions Amendment (Text
Amendments) to City Council with a positive recommendation. The motion was seconded by
Ron Houck and approved 9 in favor, 0 opposed. (Wayne Wilson was out of the room when the
vote was cast.)
POINT OF CLARIFICATION
John Molitor reported on the content of commitments for the P -2 rezone for Earlham College.
Mr. Molitor said he has drafted commitments. The main thrust of the discussion on July 8, 2003
was to table any further consideration of the Rezone proposal until March 2004. It is difficult to
determine what happens after March. The draft provides an additional 90 days for response by
the City Council after it is forwarded to them; therefore, the end date is June 30, 2004. This was
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agreeable to the Commission.
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting adjourned at 10:00
PM.
Marilyn Anderson, Vice President
Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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