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TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2010
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MINUTES
LOCATION: CAUCUS ROOMS TIME: 6:00 P.M.
CARMEL CITY HALL DOORS OPEN AT 5:30 P.M.
ONE CIVIC SQUARE
CARMEL, IN 46032
Representing the Committee:
Brad Grabow, Chairperson; Heather Irizarry; Nick Kestner, Judy Hagan, Steve Lawson
Representing the Department:
Angie Conn; Alexia Donahue -Wold; Lisa Stewart (Recorder)
The Subdivision Committee considered the following items:
1. Docket No. 10060012 DP /ADLS: 116th Street Centre PUD Apartment Homes
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a 195 -unit apartment home community on 6.9
acres. The site is located at the northeast corner of 116 St. College Ave. and is zoned PUD/Planned
Unit Development. Filed by Todd May of J.C. Hart Company, Inc.
Present for the Petitioner:
Jesse Pohlman, Baker and Daniels; John Hart and Todd May, JC Hart; Randy Sherman, Weaver Sherman
Design; Larry Hemp, HempDesign; Jim Shields, Weihe Engineering
Overview:
Continuing to work with Carmel Fire Department and City of Engineering office regarding the 117`
Street Project
Made changes to rear elevation of Clubhouse
o Fagade treated with fiber cement panel and wood trim
o Stone element at base of exercise room and wrapped around to be consistent with all 3 sides
o Added higher transom windows in exercise room and maintenance garage
o North elevation has windows along edge and color change along building around to North
o Northeast corner (pool deck) offers more of a masonry feel, rather than plain
Slight changes made to building elevation and floor plan
o Two building elevations changed in order to meet square footage standards in approved PUD
North elevation changed the stairs to be front of building rather than north end of building
Front door will connect to front walk for ease of parking
Second entry to building also will connect to front walk through door
End unit will now have window and door facing forward rather than "blank"
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Scale in front will be as a two -story building rather than three -story due to staircase
does not meet height of building
Building 3 -U6 Units on 2 nd and Y floor increased approx. 50 square feet to meet
minimum requirements
Building 4 (fronts College Avenue)
increased square footage on far North and South elevations by adding bay window
in living room in middle units along with enclosed screened in porch
Main level floor plan will have 2 large garages on each half of the building that will
be entered through single garage door
Two small private garages will be available
o One connected to corner floor unit and other is connected by common entry
hallway (which allows the garage to be rented to other units in the building)
Committee Comments:
Onsite Storage
o Bicycle storage
Garage will provide space for storing of bicycles
Common hallway will have storage lockers that are also large enough for bicycles
External bike racks located throughout site
Suggested to use combination of racks (loop and slated) to accommodate variety
of bike parking
Suggested to review location of bike racks against the approved PUD
Committee members felt some locations were too "far" away
Possible to relocate some parking areas by Clubhouse, gazebo, mailbox
centers
o Garages
Building 3 -main level floor plans will have private garages
All garages will be numbered and for specific unit
Varity of configurations available
Standard aluminum recessed panel doors (similar to Legacy Town and Flats) will be
installed and will blend in to main building
Sidewalks/Pathways
o Multiuse path is to be 6 feet, development plans show as being 5 feet
o Paths were to be added on the North and East side as well as the South side
South side already has 5 ft. path, North is to be connected to south edge of sidewalk for
the future development of 117 Street (not aware of City of Carmel plans for 117
Street project, but will be able to connect to in future). Petitioner has already dedicated
future Right of Way as per the Planned Unit Development if the engineering department
decides they would like to put in street.
o Concern with 4 ft. concrete path and not having enough room for more than one bike, jogger,
walker on path at same time resulting in someone having to use the street and cars coming in
and out of parking spaces
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Petitioner feels since private driveway traffic will be at a slower speed rather than a the
speed on a public street
o Added pedestrian path to North side and between Clubhouse and East building with extension
north to the Right of Way easement so that the Town homes (adjacent property to North) to be
able to have access to the site and Commercial uses.
o Enhanced path along College Avenue going North
6 ft. bike path/10 ft. multiuse path, referring to as an "Enhanced" Path
Current City of Carmel Thoroughfare Plan indicates could redevelop as improvements
are done into an Enhanced Path
Plans are to connect to path for future growth going South
Parking
o 390 total number of parking spaces in development
268 spaces outside building (includes angle parking on College Avenue)
249 spaces exclude garages and driveways behind garages
122 spaces are garages
No assigned parking spaces unless they are renting a garage
2% of spaces are required to be handicap parking
Development Plans include 8 handicap parking spaces
o 6 parking spaces are outside and 2 parking spaces are in garages
Currently spaces are ADA compliant but can identify more handicap spaces in
future if market calls for them to be needed
Signage
o 116` Street Center PUD does allow for the apartment development name to be placed on
overall 116 Street Center sign.
Community Developer has not submitted the look of the overall sign but plans to have
just apartment development name
o Apartment development
One sign to serve as more of notification of pedestrian entry rather than a retail entry
Have more landscaped feel rather than ground wall sign for retail center
Blade sign off College Avenue (similar to Legacy Town and Flat project)
Still working on placement
o Committee asked for sign package to be completed for review prior to the September 21, 2010
Plan Commission Meeting
Note: Signage is marked as a contingent item to be resolved before approval of project
General Comments
o Adjacent property owners (town homes to the north) at the time of the rezone did not want
vehicle connection to the apartment development by vehicle roads
o Shifted site plan so that the roads do not align to the roads in town homes development
o Planned Unit Development (PUD) allows for an Owner Association to be established
Own '/z driveway with connection to College Avenue
Each parcel obligated to contribute towards maintenance and operation (snow removal,
signage, common area) of driveway for everyone's use
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Mailbox centers will be located throughout the community with close proximity to units.
Large overhang (less than 2 ft. depth), facing forward
Color and trim to match building adjacent to mailbox center
Building Number with Unit Number noted by a plaque will be on the mailbox pod
Trash compactor will be placed in a common area for trash and recycled items disposal
Pick up to be scheduled once every 2 to 3 weeks
Retention Pond
Existing pond will be used as wet retention
Retaining wall around perimeter of pond will be raised to correct elevation
Black chain link fence, 5 feet tall in order to help keep public out
DOCS staff suggested black vinyl coated chain link fence rather than steel or
metal fencing
Emergency personnel can gain access to pond from ramp and swing gate located at
northeast corner of pond
MOTION: Judy Hagan to forward Docket No. 10060012 DP /ADLS 116 Street Centre PUD Apartment
Homes to the Plan Commission with favorable recommendation conditioned upon review of the sign
package and further conditioned upon review of the bicycle rack placement and equipment before the
September 21, 2010 Plan Commission meeting seconded by Heather Irizarry, voted 5 -0.
Meeting adjourned: 7:20 pm
Brad G bow, C6airperson
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