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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 10-16-96TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE OCTOBER 16, 1996 Members present: Mark Monroe, Department of Community Services; Paul Amone, Carmel Utilities; Dick Hill, Carmel Engineering; Stan Puckett, Carmel Fire Department; Judy Hagan, Carmel Parks Recreation; Jim Neal, Hamilton County Highway Department; John South, Hamilton County Soil Water Conservation District; Steve Cash, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office; Mary Shultz, Indiana Gas Co.; Sharon Prater, Panhandle Eastern Pipeline Co.; and Pam Waggoner, Indianapolis Water Company. MOFFITT FARM, SECTION 2A (SP) Petitioner seeks approval (Secondary Plat) to construct 29 lots on 15.83 acres. The site is located on the west side of River Road, north of 131st Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residential (Residential Open Space Application.) Filed by Dave Sexton of Schneider Engineering. MOFFITT FARM, SECTION 3 (SP) Petitioner seeks approval (Secondary Plat) to construct 43 lots on 22.53 acres. The site is located on the west side of River Road, north of 131st Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residential (Residential Open Space Application.) Filed by Dave Sexton of Schneider Engineering. Appearing for petitioner, Jose Kreutz and Dave Sexton of Schneider Engineering; also Ken Alexander of Brenwick Development. Current plans include the extension of River Road as relocated, including the round about. COMMENTS: Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett says review letter sent, all OK Carmel Utilities, Paul Arnone, fire hydrant on Section 3 should be repositioned. Sanitary sewer in section 3-- structure No. 430 not on plans. Petitioner will send revised plan to CFD Hamilton County Highway, Jim Neal requests petitioner be sure to annex entire right -of -way along with house frontage. Hamilton County Soil Water Conserv., John South in regard to 2A, says details missing on erosion control plan. Major comment: Lots 88 thru 96 drainage is largely unaddressed. Safeguards available to make sure builder installs drainage? perhaps need drainage installation up front. John South recommends installing yard inlets. Section 3: Lots 98 thru 103 erosion control should address construction period. County drain on north end should be identified. Seeding should be considered in stages. City Engineer, Dick Hill echoes concern on specified lots; requests timing of River Road and sections. Petitioner says will not interrupt service on River Road. Jose says Section 3 includes traffic maintenance, flagging system for a brief period of time- -will clear with City Engineer and Street Dept. County Surveyor, Steve Cash says outlet request needed; petitioner to identify drain and show easements concurs with John South's comments. Will check with Kent Ward if regulated drain- -will verify with City. Carmel Parks, Judy Hagan requests gas company tunnel to preserve existing trees, will put in letter form with copy to Schneider Engineering. Grading and seeding by developer to include Parks property? Parks not in possession until January. Indiana Gas, Mary Shultz need date? Section 3 probably June. Panhandle Eastern Pipeline Co., Sharon Prater not affected by this project. DOCS, Mark Monroe requests covenants, subdivider agreement form, label floodway /plain on construction drawing. Also requests tree preservation plan. Pathways on primary not showing on secondary. Petitioner will preserve trees -does not show on plat. Info needed before appearance at November committee. SPRING CREEK, SECTION 3 (SP) Petitioner seeks approval (Secondary Plat) to construct 36 lots on 12.22 acres. The site is located on the west side of Cherry Tree Road, south of 146th Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residential (Cluster Option Application.) Filed by Dave Barnes of Weihe Engineering. Appearing for petitioner: Stan Neal of Weihe Engineers. Overview: Spring Creek originally approved as primary plat under name of Hazeldell Villas under Cluster Ordinance. Section 3 contains outlet onto Cherry Tree Road. Three outlets: one in Section 3 onto Cherry Tree Road; one onto Hazeldell; and one through Ashmore Trace north to 146th Street. Plat complies with previous primary approved earlier. All City services, Sewer, Water and Gas. Sidewalks on both sides of all streets. COMMENTS: Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett says all OK Carmel Utilities, Paul Amone requests full set of plans. Will review and comment upon receipt. Hamilton County Highway, Jim Neal section of Cherry Tree belongs to County; no set of plans. Petitioner will annex. County Surveyor, Steve Cash says storm sewer is Carmel's. Outlet request needed for Vestal Drain; nonenforcement for lots backing up to Vestal Drain petitioner says filed with Section 2. Requests indirect outlet request. Recommends drainage easement to protect 100 year flood thereby prohibiting building of mini -barns, etc. in 100 yr. Petitioner will fill outside floodway; Steve Cash requests detail on clearing debris in flow line of Vestal. County Soil Water Conserv. John South says comment letter sent. NOI has been filed. Erosion control plan for section 4 delayed -work done prior. 100 yr. elevation for pond; floodway line difficult to follow on prints. Recommend side ditch for Cherry Tree (petitioner says already installed). Recommend swale behind lots 20 thru 29 for subdrainage. Specifications for sealing lake? Level of lake to be at ground water or one foot below. Erosion control around lake due to fluctuation of water needs to be addressed. Suggest vegetation around lake; request petitioner consider planting in greenbelt areas and floodways. Indiana Gas Co., Mary Shultz no comment. Panhandle Eastern, Sharon Prater says not affected. z City Engineer, Dick Hill has not received full set of plans. Kate Boyle has received drainage Calculations difficult to relate to plan. Petitioner will contact. Carmel Parks, Judy Hagan asked about trailway on property. Stan Neal says pathway system exists on property and old farm lane to creek being maintained and incorporated into pathway system. DOCS, Mark Monroe requests more info labeled on plat construction drawings by Friday. Petitioner to address Dick/Kate's comments or would recommend tabling. Changes noted in lot sizes -one lot additional as stated in primary? Stan Neal to confirm. LIBERTY HEALTH CARE (UV, ADLS) Petitioner seeks approval (Use Variance and Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping and Signage to construct a 35,000 square feet assisted living center on 5.54 acres. The site is located north of 116th Street and west of College Avenue within the Meridian Technology Center. The site is zoned B -2 /Business Filed by Phil Nicely and Steve Granner of Bose McKinney Evans. Present for petitioner: Steve Granner of Bose, McKinney; Sharon Oswald, Liberty Healthcare; Bo Russ of Architectural Concepts; and Bruce Hagen, Paul I. Cripe, Inc. Petitioner proposes 54 bed Assisted Living Facility, staffed 24 hrs /day. Variance required in B -6 Zoning for proposed use, also ADLS approval before Plan Commission scheduled for November. COMMENTS: Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett says comment letter sent. Building to be sprinkled; fire hydrant location to be reviewed -will meet with petitioner. Knocksbox not required at this time, but State Fire Code will require within two years of completion. County Highway, Jim Neal no comment County Surveyor, Steve Cash says detention provided in business park; project in Fertig watershed. County Soil Water, John South agrees with comments expressed; erosion control comments to be addressed. Indiana Gas, Mary Shultz says natural gas available and can serve. Panhandle Eastern Pipeline; Sharon Prater no comment. Carmel Engineer, Dick Hill advises petitioner will need commercial curb cut approval from Board of Public Works; requests drainage calcs. Petitioner to indicate on drawings the size of existing storm parallel with 1 1 6th Street; indicate right -of -way of Technology Drive. Bruce Hagen advises street is private except for a portion -Dick will defer to Kate dedication of street a possibility. Concern regarding slope between structures 701 and 709, and 21 inch pipe going into 18 inch at structure 701. Drainage easements not shown on drawings. DOCS, Mark Monroe says review letter sent. Petitioner confirms project is Assisted Living only and not Alzheimer's care; no skilled care. Parking requirement petitioner reports that traffic studies from other locations support proposed use as being the least intensive traffic generator. Trip generation and shift change of employees and service vehicles the only consideration for parking requirement. Visitation varies. Curb cut location Department recommends one curb cut off private drive; petitioner says ideal request would be fore two 3 curb cuts -would like service drive and main entry. ADLS requirements: Dept. needs response on information requested. Signage should be identical proposed does not conform to existing. Petitioner hopes to schedule for hearing at November Plan Commission. Landscape comments to come from Mike Hollibaugh; zoning requirement for buffer to south; petitioner to meet with Mike. KELTNER OFFICE BUILDING (DP /ADLS /SP) Petitioner seeks approval (Development Plan, Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping, and Signage and Secondary Plat) to construct a 21,000 square feet building on 2.14 acres. The site is located on the north side of Carmel Drive, just across from Chase Court. The site is zoned M- 3/Manufacturing. Filed by Brad Barnes of Cuppy, Graef, and Turner. Appearing for petitioner, Milt Cuppy, of Cuppy, Groef Turner. Plans submitted to City for office building, some warehouse storage primarily small office space. COMMENTS: Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett says comment letter sent, sprinkler system in question, will meet with Petitioner. County Soil Water Conserv., John South requests erosion control and detailed site plan. Hamilton County Highway, Jim Neal defers to City of Carmel. Carmel Police Dept., letter concerned with line of sight at curb cut location and tree line on east. Indianapolis Water Co., Pam Waggoner says water main in Chase Court and also Carmel Drive; may be a fee involved. Fire protection required? If private, petitioner to contact Indpls. Water. Hamilton County Surveyor, Steve Cash says project in watershed for Fertig drain- -will need outlet request. (indirect outlet -no fee) Indiana Gas Co., Mary Shultz no comment. Eastern Panhandle Pipeline, Sharon Prater not affected. City Engineer, Dick Hill says commercial curb cut needed; requests elevations. Concerned with site lines and trees on eastern border. DOCS, Mark Monroe sent comment letter; requests more information on application; information for public notice; need address from Communications Dept. Request additional right -of -way on Carmel Drive; also request petitioner participate in bike path on Carmel Drive within 45 right -of -way; access point to site block 14? Perhaps access off Clark Street rather than Carmel Drive would be best. Request setbacks and landscape yards labeled on plans. Mark requests clarification on use of building commercial or industrial? Request detail on elevation drawings; request meeting with property owner and Brad Barnes to discuss access. CHESWICK PLACE, SECTION 5 (PP) TABLED BY PETITIONER HERMAN VARIANCE (V) 4 Petitioner seeks approval (Variance) to split 17 acres into 4 parcels. The site is located on the east side of West Road, north of 126th Street. The site is zoned S -1 /Residential. Filed by Stanley Herman. Overview by Stan Herman. Petitioner requesting a division of 17 acres into 4 lots for residential use; will maintain rural characteristics. Site is Brendun Apple Orchard, contains many existing apple trees which will be incorporated into overall plan. A private drive to service the four tracts will be paved and will also serve the two homes on the north and south of the private drive that face West Road. COMMENTS: Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett concerned with width of lane (20 foot) and trees on site in regard to access for fire trucks. Stan Puckett to visit site and comment later. County Highway, Jim Neal says private drive must meet County Ordinance since it will serve over two homes -will review and comment. Will need ingress /egress easement and utility easements; curb cut approval required. County Surveyor, Steve Cash says no regulated drains on site; no detention warranted; general erosion control warranted at construction. County Soil Water, John South says lots on well septic; two lots at south end have access to open ditch, lots on north end do not. Health Dept. may require tile drainage access to improve septic sites. John South recommends extending drainage improvements from open ditch up to northern lots. Lots one and two will need drainage access. Indiana Gas Co., Mary Shultz says gas is available on West Road up to 131 st Street. DOCS, Mark Monroe questioned any plans by County for extending 126th Street from West Road to Shelborne Road; Jim Neal responded negatively. Mark requests public notice documentation from petitioner. MERCHANTS SQUARE (ADLS) Petitioner seeks approval (Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping, and Signage) to construct a 301,207 square feet building on 26 acres. The site is located north of 116th Street, south of Carmel Drive, west of Keystone Avenue. The site is zoned B -8 /Business. Filed by Jim Nelson of Nelson and Frankenberger. Appearing for petitioner: Craig Hessee, Ernie Reno of The Linder Company; Bill Fehribach, A F Engineering; Phil Warrenburg of Weihe Engineering, Jeff Schrader; Overview by Jim Nelson. The Linder Company is purchasing center formerly known as Keystone Square, renamed Merchants Square. Development Plan and ADLS filed with Plan Commission for review. The west retail Pavilion has been approved and soon under construction. Triple A Way to be extended to 116th Street and slightly re- aligned, widened, and improved; three way automatic traffic signal to be installed at intersection created by AAA Way extension and 116th Street. Petitioner is proposing a "ring" road around perimeter of Center. Architectural re- design to be significant. Review letter received from Mark Monroe of DOCS requesting traffic impact analysis at 116th Keystone and Carmel Drive and Keystone; also requesting intra -site circulation plan. Petitioner is nearing 5 completion of parking summary; Mr. Nelson's opinion that parking requirement satisfied. COMMENTS: Carmel Fire Dept., Stan Puckett says comment letter sent; requests meeting with petitioner regarding same. Carmel Utilities, Paul Amone says petitioner has met with John Duffy of Utilities regarding mapping of water sewer lines under buildings. sewer lines under buildings to be on video sometime this week; nothing further at this time. County Surveyor, Steve Cash says in Carmel's jurisdiction -no comment. County Soil Water, John South says no major changes in storm drainage system defers to City of Carmel Engineering. Street drainage is critical to look at if adding curbs currently all sheet flows, may have to install inlets. Indiana Gas Co., Mary Shultz, gas already in the area and happy to serve. City Engineer, Kate Boyle, combined concern between DOCS and Engineering regarding traffic and circulation, both internal external. Requests schedule of development for all elements: signal design, roadway improvements, etc. Consider moving western curb cut on south ring, east of AAA Way to alleviate cars backing up. Some internal areas congested, would suggest crosswalks at key areas; can work through most internal and external design. Internal traffic signs: need stop signs and street signs for AAA Way and Medical Drive East, Keystone Way South. Will need "cross traffic does not stop" signage on interior. Externally, petitioner closing one entrance to 116th Street; Engineering needs to see any further proposed changes at 116th Street that would affect east bound traffic. Need details of internal intersections basically four intersections, northeast, northwest, west and southwest to show lane configurations and turn lanes, some dimensions traffic count needed to consider 3 -way stops. Parking lot pavement thickness to meet city standards; petitioner resurfacing parking lot on one inch overlay -need confirmation of drainage flow. Erosion control devices to be in place during construction. AAA Way: curbs, sidewalks, drainage improvements, storm sewers and inlets needed. Request to see design for intersections. Sanitary lines and storm lines exist under building- -would like to see video for connections possibly relocate sanitary and storm lines. DOCS, Mark requests petitioner look at additional landscaping to define parking and traffic flow, i.e. landscape islands, etc. Requests plans be more clearly labeled for signage height and dimensions. Foot candle to be labeled on lighting plan. Petitioner hopes to go before Plan Commission in November, committee in December, then back to full Plan Commission. END MEETING 6