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Home My WebLink AboutMinutes PC 10-21-08City of arme D10 CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21, 2008 6:00 PM Council Chambers Carmel City Hall One Civic Square Carmel, IN 46032 Minutes Members present: Members absent: Leo Dierckman, President, (late arrival) Jay Dorman; Dan Dutcher; Brad Grabow; Kevin "Woody" Rider; Rick Ripma; Carol Schleif, Steve Stromquist; Susan Westermeier. Wayne Haney; Madeleine Torres Department of Community Services Staff in attendance: Director Michael Hollibaugh Angie Conn, Adrienne Keeling John Molitor, Legal Counsel Also present: Ramona Hancock, Secretary The Minutes of the September 16, 2008 meeting were approved as submitted. Legal Counsel Report, John Molitor: The Executive Session of the Carmel Plan Commission Executive Committee scheduled for this evening has been postponed. A meeting is now scheduled for Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 5:30 PM in the Caucus Rooms, prior to the Comprehensive Plan meeting. Rick Ripma, Vice President called the meeting to order. Leo Dierckman joined the meeting in progress. Motion: Carol Schleif to "Re -order the Agenda to hear New Business Item 08080020 ADLS, Hotel Indigo as the first item of business," seconded by Sue Westermeier, Approved 8 -0. Motion Carried. Angie Conn reported that Items 1 -2H, Docket No. 08070022 DP Amend/ADLS and 08070023 ZW, St. Vincent Sports Performance Center were Tabled to November 18, 2008. J. New Business 1J. Docket No. 08080020 ADLS: Hotel Indigo The applicant seeks design approval for a 5 -story hotel building. The site is located S :/P1anCommission/Minutes/PC- 2008 /oct21 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 northeast of 131 St. and US 31 and is zoned B-6/Business within the US 31 Overlay. Filed by Jay Gibson of CDG Consulting, Inc. Present for Petitioner: Jay Gibson, CDG Consulting, Inc.; Bill Galvin, representing the owner, North Penn Hotels LLC and the developer, Dora Hotel Company. Also in attendance: Philip Jovon Rayl, project architect, and Judy Weerts planning and zoning consultant. Overview: Subject site consists of three acres Tract is within development approved last July brought forth by Jamie Browning Located at 1440 West Main Street No frontage on Main Street Access served by interior drive Size is zoned B-6/Business, US 31 Overlay Hotel consists of 5 stories, 104 rooms /suites, and 4572 square foot meeting room Site plan will be changed slightly —entry drive to be shifted 90 foot setback from US 31; minim 15 -foot side -yards Parking: Site supports 117 spaces-27 additional spaces needed Employee Parking: 10 employee spaces per shift Meeting Room Parking: 1 space per suite Browning Assoc. is to secure a cross easement for parking Department Recommendation, Angie Conn: Forward to Oct 30 Special Studies Committee for further review Commission Comments: Request Color renderings Request map of entire community layout Request building materials /samples Request Landscape Design Plan Request Site -plan for overall development, not just hotel Other buildings proposed? Access? Bike Parking how does it fit into this project? Action: Docket No. 08080020 ADLS, Hotel Indigo was referred to Special Studies Committee for further review on Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 6:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1 -2H. TABLED TO NOV. 18: Docket No. 08070022 DP Amend /ADLS: St. Vincent Sports Performance Center The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a sports performance /training/ physical therapy center and medical offices and also seeks zoning waiver approval: Docket No. 08070023 ZW ZO §27.01: required parking spaces S:/P1anCommission/Minutes/PC- 2008 /oct21 2 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 The site is located at 13400 N Meridian St. and is zoned 13- 6/13usiness within the US 31 Overlay and OM/MM Old Meridian District, Mixed Medical. Filed by Pat Shea for BremnerDuke Healthcare Real Estate. 3H. WITHDRAWN: Docket No. 08060014 PP: 1800 West Subdivision The appheant seeks primary plat appr-eval for- 2 lots on 1.99 aer-es. The site is leeated at 1 86` is zoned S �uenee. Filed by Feffell of u..,,, ing Engineeri�r I$89 I 8f`h ct P ft „o,. s r r r 4H. TABLED TO NOV. 18: Docket No. 08050034 Z: Meadows Three PUD pafk ehape�nd single family h omes. The site is lacated at 212 36 S t h e r4,.,,,.,, of Meadows Thfee, LLB 5H. Docket No. 08090029 OA: Carmel Dr -Range Line Road Overlay Sunset Amendment The applicant seeks to amend the Zoning Ordinance, Chapter 23F: Carmel Drive -Range Line Road Overlay Zone in order to extend the sunset clause. Filed by the Carmel Department of Community Services on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission. Present for Petitioner: Adrienne Keeling, Long Range Planner, Department of Community Services. Overview: Request amendment to extend sunset date of Carmel Dr /Range Line Road Overlay Propose 1 year —would expire December, 2009 Purpose: Encourage mixed -use building in pedestrian environment Request adoption (temporarily) until formal plan is in place Request extension for one year but may be completed earlier Will customize smart code for north central Carmel —currently finalizing contract Looking forward to February charette to develop master plan for north central Carmel area Request Suspension of Rules and forwarding to City Council with positive recommendation No public remonstrance Department Report, Angie Conn: Recommend suspension of the Rules of Procedure Recommend forwarding to City- Council with favorable recommendation Motion: Rick Ripma "To suspend the Rules of Procedure in order to vote on this item" seconded by Carol Schleif, 9 -0 Motion Carried. Motion: Rick Ripma "To forward Docket No. 08090029 OA, Carmel Drive -Range Line Road Overlay Sunset Amendment to the City Council with a positive recommendation," seconded by Carol Schleif, 9 -0 Motion Carried. S :/P1anCommission/Minutes/PC- 2008 /oct21 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 I. Old Business: Motion: Rick Ripma, "To re -order the Agenda to hear item 2I, Docket No. 08080016 OA, Amendment, Carmel Clay Schools, Partial Exemption out of sequence at this time," seconded by Carol Schleif, approved 9- 0. Motion Carried. 11. Docket No. 08080003 OA: Amendment, Contributing Buildings The applicant seeks approval to amend Zoning Ordinance Chapter 23D.02.B.5, Old Town District Overlay Zone, in order to prevent the demolition of contributing building in Old Town without consent of the Director. Filed by the Department of Community Services, on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission. Present for Petitioner: Mike Hollibaugh, Director Department of Community Services. Overview: Amended Ordinance came out of Subdivision Committee Document would amend Zoning Ordinance regarding Demolition of Contributing Buildings Contributing Buildings have characteristics in keeping with historical construction in Old Town Currently, property owners in Old Town Character sub -areas can demolish a structure without consent of City Amendment will prevent demolition of any contributing building unless consent granted by Director Document establishes additional criteria for placement, removal and different types of what is and is not to be demolished Criteria for demolition has been added Ordinance would expand authority of Director to review Currently Old Town Overlay only has ability to affect historic homes in Old Town sub -area Document would provide for review and perhaps prevent demolition of buildings Ordinance defines significance Ordinance provides a sunset clause —added at the request of Committee Committee Report, Carol Schleif: Unanimous vote to forward to Commission with a positive recommendation Department Report, Angie Conn: Recommend forwarding to City Council with a favorable recommendation Commission Concerns /Comments: What is considered reasonable to furnish to Director to make a decision? Reasonable cost of additional documents Director may impose? Scaled streetscape —what is needed? On qualifying structures— possible to repair rather than replace? Why is this being done? How will owners of those structures be notified? (other than publishing in the paper) Protects theme of neighborhood Essence of Old Town overall is preserving character and structures Preserving only because of age of building? Area has "Old Urban" flavor Possibly create conservation district within the area with homeowners developing their own guidelines Map displayed of structures that might currently qualify to be on National Register S:/P1anCommission/Minutes/PC- 2008 /oct21 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 John Molitor Comments: Ordinance would apply in situations where someone is seeking demolition and replacement with a building to better fit the neighborhood Mike Hollibaugh Clarifications: Case -by -Case review basis Would review as a whole if it were a garage /accessory structure rather than contributing Being done out of concern for some structures along First Avenue NW Also being done in response to the "Applegate" tear -down Currently a lot of speculative interest in Old Town Additional guidance and specificity needed in Old Town regarding structures of historical significance and contributing to character of Old Town. Notification to owners of structures not yet contemplated currently there are 2 stop -work orders on structures in Historic area Motion: Sue Westermeier "To forward Docket No. 08080003 OA, Amendment, Contributing Buildings to the City Council with a favorable recommendation," seconded by Jay Dorman, approved 9 -0. Motion Carried. 2I. Docket No. 08080016 OA: Amendment, Carmel Clay Schools; Partial Exemption The applicant seeks approval to add Zoning Ordinance Section 28.08: Carmel Clay Schools; Partial Exemption, in order to lay out approval requirements and procedures for new facilities and buildings proposed by the Carmel Clay Schools. Filed by the Department of Community Services, on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission. Present for Petitioner: Angie Conn, Department of Community Services. Committee Report, Rick Ripma: No valid reason to change procedure No reason to grant exemption to school Schools should go through the same process as residents and developers Educators do not necessarily make planners Schools have direct impact on adjoining residences /neighborhoods Committee voted a negative recommendation John Molitor: BZA reviews school proposals School Board meets same night as BZA Motion: Susan Westermeier, "To forward Docket No. 08080016 OA, Amendment, Carmel Clay Schools, Partial Exemption to the City Council with a negative recommendation," seconded by Carol Schleif, approved 9 -0. Motion Carried. J. New Business 2J. WITHDRAWN: Docket No. 08060016 ADLS: St. Vincent Heart Center Helipad The appheant seeks approval fef a helipad. The site is leeated at 10330 Nefth Mefidian Stfee4 S:/P1anCommission/Minutes/PC- 2008 /oct21 5 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417 K Meeting adjourned at 6:45 PM. Leo Dierckman, President Ramona Hancock, Secretary S :/P1anCommission/Minutes/PC- 2008 /oct21 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571 -2417