HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 07-16-08CARMEL TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008
Place: Dept. of Community Services Conference Room, 3rd Floor, Carmel City
Hall
Time: 9:00 AM
9:00 a.m. Ditch Rd Horse Stables
The applicant seeks the following special use and development standards
approvals:
Docket No. 08060007 SU Appendix A: Use Table Horse boarding
lessons Docket No. 08060019 V Section 25.01.01(B)(8) Riding arena /stables
exceeds square footage of primary dwelling
The site is located at 13403 Ditch Road and is zoned S1 /Residential. Filed by
Karen and Kevin Hammeran, owners.
Karen Hammeran presented. She was accompanied by Leslie A. Ahluwalia
DVM, contract buyer.
The property consists of 6 acres and was purchased prior to the annexation. A
variance has been requested to allow riding stables. There will lessons, and
boarding.
Joanie Clark, Vectren distributed contact information if additional gas services
are needed.
David Lucus Hamilton Co. Highway Dept., no comment.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, the petitioner will have his
comment letter tomorrow.
Nick Redden- Engineering no objections.
Ryan Hartman CTRWD, no issues.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, requested that once the architect has
approved plans, please contact Chris to discuss concerns.
Trudy Weddington, Building and Code, no comment.
Alexia Donahue Wold, DOCS, no comment at this time.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, distributed information for services requests.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, the department report will be out this week.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, sent a comment letter and has no further comment at
this time.
END
9:15 a.m. St. Vincent Heart Center Helipad:
The applicant seeks the following use variance approval:
Docket No. 08060008 UV Appendix A: Use Table: Helipad in B6/US 31
Overlay The site is located at 10330 N. Meridian St. and is zoned B6 /Business,
within the US 31 Overlay. Filed by Robert Hicks and Paul Clendenen for St.
Vincent Heart Center.
Docket No. 08060016 ADLS: St. Vincent Heart Center Helipad
The applicant seeks design approval for a helipad. The site is located at 10330
North Meridian Street and is zoned B6/Business, within the US 31 Overlay
District. Filed by Paul Clendenen of St. Vincent Health, Inc.
Robert Hicks of St. Vincent Health and Chris Wiseman of Cripe Engineering
represented the petitioner. St. Vincent will be doing trial helicopter runs on
Monday between 3 4 p.m. Sound meters will be on hand.
Joanie Clark, Vectren, distributed service information if needed.
David Lucus Hamilton Co. Highway Dept., outside of his jurisdiction.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, sent a letter.
Nick Redden- Engineering no comment at this time.
Ryan Hartman CTRWD, no comment.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, requested that the petitioner contact him
to discus critical fire department issues.
Trudy Weddington, Building and Code, no comment.
Alexia Donahue Wold, DOCS, no comment at this time.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, discussed the area where the pole may have to go.
She distributed information for service request.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, sent an email with questions. No other
comment at this time.
END
9:30 a.m. Docket No. 08060014 PP: 1800 West
The applicant seeks primary plat approval for 2 lots on 1.88 acres. The site is
located at 1800 W 106"' St. and is zoned S -1 /Residence. Filed by Lance Ferrell of
Banning Engineering for 1800 106 Street Partners, LLC.
Joe Calderon, Lance Farrell and Randy Marra presented. Joe stated that this is
basically a lot split. They continue to work on the sewer easement issue.
Joanie Clark, Vectren, distributed service information.
David Lucus Hamilton Co. Highway Dept., indicated that a 50 ft. easement is
needed. The Board of Commissioners may need to be petitioned for resolution.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, send email indicating a need
for an erosion control plan.
Nick Redden- Engineering, outside of jurisdiction.
Ryan Hartman CTRWD, no issues.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, no comment at this time.
Trudy Weddington, Building and Code, no comment.
Alexia Donahue Wold, DOCS, no comment at this time.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, outside of Duke's jurisdiction.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comment at this time.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, sent a letter, has no further comment at this time.
END
9:40 a.m. Docket No. 08060015 TAC: St. Christopher's Episcopal Church, Phase 3
The applicant seeks TAC approval to construct phase three. The site is located at
1402 W Main St. The site is OM/SU- Old Meridian District Special Use within
the US 31 Overlay. Filed by Sanjay Patel of VS Engineering, Inc.
Kevin Huse and Russ Bachman presented. This new space will be a worship
area. A continuation of the ongoing project.
Joanie Clark, Vectren, distributed service call information.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, sent an email, has no further
comments at this time.
Nick Redden- Engineering, no additional comments at this time.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, asked about sprinkler system. Mr. Huse
indicated that the building will be sprinkled and it is anticipated that it will seat
466 people.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, asked for a CAD drawing of the project.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comment at this time.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, no comment.
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9:50 a.m. Docket No. 08060018 ADLS: Old Meridian Plaza Building 2 (RA Franke,
lot 8A)
The applicant seeks design approval for Building 2, a 1 -story office building.
The site is located at 12863 Old Meridian St. and is zoned OM/MU- Old
Meridian, Mixed Use. Filed by Ersal Ozdemir of Keystone Group, LLC.
Charlie Frankenberger presented. He was accompanied by Steve Hardin and
Roger Kilmer of Baker and Daniels, Chris Wiseman, Cripe Engineering and
Ersal Ozdemir of the Keystone Group.
The real estate has been reviewed by TAC in the past. The 2.8 acres is located
on the east side of Old Meridian. This was previously presented variances and
applications for development plan approval and ADLS for a 4 story building,
60,000 sq. ft. building, and 15,000 sq. ft. per floor to be build up to Old
Meridian. When these were submitted, it was indicated on the drawings that it
might be a possibility of an additional building in the back to the east. The Plan
Commission was informed that when and if this occurred we would return.
The building plans for the second building have changed slightly, it is no longer
going to be a 1 story, it will now have a first floor footprint of 7,000 sq. ft. and a
second floor of 1500 sq. ft.
Charlie indicated that it is the wish of the developer to convey to the veterinarian
the land beneath the building. The primary plat comprises 2 lots he reviewed
on a visual.
Joanie Clark, Vectren, distributed service request information.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, has not sent a letter yet, but
will continue to review this project.
Nick Redden- Engineering, we have sent comments regarding building 1 and
many of those will apply to building 2 as well. There are several that need to be
restated. A new comment letter will be forthcoming.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, stated that when the project came
through TAC previously he make specific comments regarding adding fire
hydrants in the rear of the building, he does not see any hydrants shown on the
drawings. What is the plan for this? Chris wants to see plans with the hydrants.
He stated he is flexible with the location. He stated that with the amount of
parking that is there we will have to maintain clear unobstructed access to the
hydrant and a 360 degree clearance around it. If you would like to review this,
please call Chris and schedule an appointment.
Alexia Donahue Wold, DOCS, no comment at this time.
Trudy Weddington, Building and Code, no comment.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, the first time the building went through there
were a couple of comments made about easements and because this will divided
into two lots we will require an utility easement to get power to the back
building. If it had stayed one piece of property this easement would not be
necessary, but you cannot cross across two properties.
Shirley indicated that the feed to these buildings will be coming from 131S street,
there is no 3 phase power available, and this power system will have to be
rebuilt. This was a residential area and was single phase. She has taken some
preliminary notes, but as of today has not been contacted, so she has not done
any serious engineering work as yet.
Charlie stated that the plan will have to be amended showing the easement.
Shirley will let the petitioners know by the end of the week her findings.
She distributed service request information.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS we need updated site plans and elevations for
the ADLS and variance files.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, no comments.
END
10:05 a.m. Docket No. 08050033 DP /ADLS: Stout Shoes Buildings
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for two retail/office buildings.
The site is located at 13100 -13155 Old Meridian Street and is zoned OM/MU
Old Meridian District/Mixed Use. Filed by Michael Cook of Wooden
McLaughlin LLP for Old Meridian Main Properties, LLC.
Richard Hoover of Civil- Designs and Robert McGill of Peterson Architects
presented.
There are two building one two -story and one building that appears to be two
story, but is only one.
Joanie Clark, Vectren asked if there would be any load changes. It is anticipated
that the loads will change. Joanie distributed service request paperwork.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, sent a letter stating that this is
not one of our watersheds.
Nick Redden- Engineering, we have sent a letter with comments and have no
further comments at this time
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, he asked about the fire department
connection location, you need to make sure that the fire hydrants maintain a 3 ft.
unobstructed view and 360 degree access.
Trudy Weddington, Building and Code, no comment.
Alexia Donahue Wold, DOCS, no comment at this time.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, asked the status of the veterinarian clinic. Mr.
McGill stated it will be there approximately 1 year while their new building is
being constructed. Once that the vet vacates the building will be demolished
within 6 months. Shirley has not made a site visit. She does not see on the plans
any utility easements. Mr. McGill indicated that there are no utility easements on
the property. Based on Shirley's design for this property, she may have to
request an easement. She will contact the petitioner after reviewing the site and
the plans. She distributed request for service information. She also asked for the
site plan in auto CAD format.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comments at this time.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, sent a letter and has no further comments at this time.
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10:15 a.m. Docket No. 08060017 Z: North Meridian Heights Rezone
The applicant seeks approval to rezone approximately 21.9 acres from the S-
2 /Residence to B -6 /Business zoning classification, within the US 31 Overlay.
The site is located at 131S St. and Catherine Dr, just east of US 31. Filed by
Steve Hardin of Baker Daniels, LLP for Browning Associates, LLC.
Steve Hardin of Baker Daniels presented. He was accompanied by Roger
Kilmer, Chris Wiseman.
This project is just east the current Browning project. It is unusual because the
homeowners approached Mr. Browning and asked if he would like to acquire the
properties. The neighborhood has developed a buy -out committee and are
working with Browning Associates. We have now applied for a rezone to a B6.
Joanie Clark, Vectren distributed service information.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, sent a letter and has no
concerns.
Nick Redden- Engineering no comments regarding the rezone.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, no comment on rezone.
Alexia Donahue Wold, DOCS, no comment at this time.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, no comment on rezone.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comment.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, no comment.
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Docket Number 08070001 TAC Dairy Queen Rebuild
Rich Kelly presented. He was accompanied by Mina Khoury, Diary Queen
owner and Bill Bolander, architect.
This is being submitted on a preliminary basis. We are trying to react to the
situation as quickly as possible. They would like to get major topics of
discussion on the table relative to the site plan that has been presented. It is a
preliminary site plan, it is our intent to finalize the plans later this week. Full
construction plans will be submitted at that time. They also asked that TAC
members be willing to meet individually with them. Mr. Khoury met with Gary
Duncan, Mike Hollibaugh and Angie Conn. There will be some changes to the
site plan that you received by email, these will not be substantial, the primary
change will be about the common ingress /egress access drive to the south of the
DQ property that is shared with the Butler auto facility. Instead of continuing to
use that access to serve the DQ, the DQ will have a second curb cut for an
entrance off of Rangeline Rd.
Joanie Clark, Vectren distributed service request information.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, this is outside of the
watershed.
Nick Redden- Engineering no comment at this time.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, I have worked with Mr. Khoury
extensively. Chris asked what the seating capacity will be. Mr. Khoury
indicated it will be about the same of under 100. Chris indicated that new law
states that if you have seating for 100 or more it must be sprinkled.
Trudy Weddington, Building and Code, no comment.
Alexia Donahue Wold, DOCS, no comment at this time.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, asked for the plans on auto CAD. She will need
to look at the finalized plans to determine easements.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS no comments at this time.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, just reviewed the plans. Would like to have ADA
ramps noted and regarding the path he will discuss making a contribution to the
Non Refundable Transportation fund. As far as bike parking you will be
required to install 4 bike spaces.
Angie Conn, DOCS, we will have a review letter out in the next few days.
END