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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCorrespondence Conn, Angelina V From: Conn, Angelina V Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:57 AM To: 'BSchick @simon.com' Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: 10110002 ADLS Amend Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal Sales Barbara Sorry this was not clear, before. I thought Pam Lux explained that to you. The clay terrace pud only permits 10 days for outdoor sales, and the carmel zoning ordinance permits 30 days for outdoor sales, but you need to get adis amendment approval from the Plan Commission sub committee. However; we determined that we could review your adls amendment petition administratively, in- office. That approval is through the planning /zoning dept. Then, after you get the adls amendment approval, you can get your temporary use permit for the 30 days, instead of the 10 days. And that process (permit and fee) is through the building and code services dept. -Angie From: BSchick @simon.com [mailto:BSchick simon.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:48 AM To: Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: 10110002 ADLS Amend Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal Sales I'm still confused. I have to complete another application, submit and then get another check cut for another fee? Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 Carmel, IN 46032 Telephone: 317- 818 -0725 Fax: 317- 818 -0920 Email: bschick @simon.com "Conn, Angelina V" ---11/04/2010 11:44:32 AM Barbara thanks for the additional info. Regarding the building permits dept: You actually need to Front: "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn @carmel.in.gov> To: BSchick @simon.com> Cc: <cafisher @simon.com "Lux, Pamela K" <plux @carmel.in.gov> Date: 11/04/2010 11:44 AM Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: 10110002 ADLS Amend Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal Sales 1 Conn, Angelina V From: Conn, Angelina V Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:43 AM To: 'BSchick @simon.com' Cc: cafisher @simon.com; Lux, Pamela K Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: 10110002 ADLS Amend Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal Sales Barbara thanks for the additional info. Regarding the building permits dept: You actually need to get a temporary use permit from their department, in addition to having our dept look at the layout. But luckily we reviewed it administratively and did not send the ADLS amendment item to the plan commission committee for review /approval. -Angie Conn, Planning Administrator From: BSchick@lsimon.com jmailto:BSchick ©simon.coml Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: cafisherftsimon.com Subject: Re: Docket No. Assignment: 10110002 ADLS Amend Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal Sales Angie, I just read further down. When you say work with Bldg Code Services to obtain permit what does that mean? I also marked the site plan showing the sales in the grassy knoll area just in front of the play area. As for lighting the lighting is what exists as exterior lighting now and we will string Christmas lights on the trees that are already there like we do every Christmas time. There is rio fencing. As for signage we will have a 4 x 8 sign like we've used in the past for movies that will also be in the grassy area in front of the playarea. We will have that together tomorrow that we can send over. It will be basic Christmas Tree graphics and then probably Heinzman Farms Trees, Wreaths, Garland.... Thanks Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 Carmel, IN 46032 Telephone: 317-818-0725 Fax: 317- 818 -0920 Email: bschick(iD,simon.com "Conn, Angelina V" ---11104/2010 11:26:36 AM -1 have issued the Docket Number for Clay Terrace Holiday./ Seasonal Sales (ADLS Amend). It is the fo From: "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> To: "Boone, Rachel M." <rboone(dcarmel.in.gov "Blanchard, Jim E" <JBlanchard(ci)carmel.in.gov "Mindham, Daren" <dmindham(cr/caniiel in.gov "Donahue -Wold, Alexia K" <awold( /carmel.in.gov "Hancock, Ramona B" <RHancock(ccarmel.in.gov "Hollibaugh, Mike P" <MHollibaugh@carmel.in.gov "Keeling, Adrienne M" <AKeeline(cicannel.ui.gov "Littlejohn, David W" <dlittlejohn(cPcarmel.in.gov "Martin, Candy" <cmartin(cvcarmel.in.eov "Mindham, Daren" <dmindham(ci2carmel.in.gov "Stewart, Lisa M" <lstewart(a),carmel.in.gov "Tingley, Connie S" <CTingley(a),carmel.in.gov "Haney, Douglas C" <DHaney(d>,carmel.in.gov "Perkins, Tom p" <iperkins(carmel.in.gov "John 1 Conn, Angelina V From: BSchick @simon.com Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:14 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal outdoor sales thank you. two sets right? Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 Carmel, IN 46032 Telephone: 317 -818 -0725 Fax: 317- 818 -0920 Email: bschick @simon.com "Conn Angelina V" 10/26/2010 03:54:32 PM- -Yes, the 2010 filing fee is now S298.00. the fees were increased from last year. Only fill out the From: "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn(iicarmel.in.gov> To: <BSchicknsimon.com> Date: 10/26/2010 03:54 PM Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal outdoor sales Yes, the 2010 filing fee is now $298.00. the fees were increased from last year. Only fill out the parts of the application relevant to your request; you might have to type up a memo too, explaining your request. And provide supplemental info, site plans, etc. -Angie Conn, Planning Administrator From: BSchick@simon.com [mailto:BSchick(a1simon.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:37 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal outdoor sales Angie I'm going to start on the application this week but want to get my check request into Corporate. Is it S298 this year? The application states that as the Sign only fee but last year I was told S295 so I wanted to make sure I get it right. Also since this is not a development can you tell what parts of the application you want to see completed as several do not apply. Thank you and look forward to seeing you. Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 Carmel, IN 46032 Telephone: 317-818-0725 Fax: 317 -818 -0920 Email: bschickiiisimon.com 1 "Comm, Angelina V" ---10/14/2010 03:44:50 PM- -Yes, but we can review that application in- house, and you would not need to appear before the Plan C From: "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn a,carmel.in.gov> To: <BSchick@simon.com> Cc: "Hollibaugh, Mike P" <MHolIibaugh(cucartnel.in.gov "Lux, Pamela K" <plux61,carmel.ingov> Date: 10 /14/2010 03:44 PM Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal outdoor sales Yes, but we can review that application in- house, and you would not need to appear before the Plan Commission special studies committee. -Angie Conn, Planning Administrator From: BSchick@simon.com [mailto:BSchickPsimon.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:39 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Hollibaugh, Mike P; Lux, Pamela K Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal outdoor sales with us being a PUD we still have to file for an ADLS Amendment right? Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 Carmel, IN 46032 Telephone: 317 -818 -0725 Fax: 317- 818 -0920 Email: bschick(a,simon.com "Con. n, Angelina V" 10/14/2010 03:18:32 PM- -Yes, the zoning ordinance states that seasonal outdoor sales, temporary uses maybe permitted for 30 From "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn /i)carmel.in.gov> To: <BSchick(ibsimon.com> Cc: "Lux, Pamela K" <pluxricarmel.in. gov "Hollibaugh, Mike P" <MHollibaugh(cr�,carmel.in. gov> Date: 10/14/2010 03:18 PM Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal outdoor sales Yes, the zoning ordinance states that seasonal outdoor sales, temporary uses may be permitted for 30 days with a Temporary Use permit from the Building Permits Dept. The requirements can be found in section 25.24 of the zoning ordinance. It can be viewed online at: http: /www.ci.carmel.in.us/ services /DOCS /DOCSZOchptrs /ZO %20Ch% 2025 %20Additional %20Use %20Reguiati ons%20(Summer%202009%20v1).pdf Here is the excerpt: 25.24.02 Areas designated for Seasonal Outdoor Sales shall not be located within nor encroach upon: A. Any minimum required setback yard; B. Any drainage easement; C. A fire lane; D. A maneuvering aisle, 2 E. A parking space or spaces necessary to meet the minimum parking requirements of the other use(s) of the lot or parcel. 25.24.03 Seasonal Sales may be located within parking areas, provided it: A. Does not interfere with pedestrian or vehicular access or parking. B. Does not create a visibility obstruction to moving vehicles within a parking lot. 25.24.04 Goods or merchandise displayed in conjunction with a Seasonal Outdoor Sale shall not exceed nine (9) feet in height. 25.24.05 Only one (1) Seasonal Outdoor Sales, Temporary Use permit shall be issued per property per year. Seasonal Outdoor Sales, Temporary Use Permits shall be issued fora term of thirty (30) consecutive days per permit unless otherwise approved by the Plan Commission. 25.24.06 Signs for Seasonal Outdoor Sales shall be prohibited except as provided by Section 25.07.03 -06: Signage for Temporary Uses of this Ordinance. -Angie Conn, Planning Administrator From: BSchick @simon.com mailto:BSchick@simon.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:46 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Lux, Pamela K Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal outdoor sales I never got that far as we couldn't find a vendor. I thought Pd try the other way around this time. Just the email below stating what you'd approve, so if that still stands this year, I will start the process. Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 Carmel, IN 46032 Telephone: 317- 818 -0725 Fax: 317 818 -0920 Email: bschick(a),simon.com "Conn, Angelina V" 10/14/2010 02:09:57 PM--- Barbara: Please refresh my memory. Did we assign a docket number for that? Did I sent you a letter From: "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconnacarmel.in.gov> To: <BSchick(simoncom> Cc: "Lux, Pamela K" <plux(accannel.ingov> Date: 10/14/2010 02:09 PM Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal outdoor sales Barbara: Please refresh my memory. Did we assign a docket number for that? Did I sent you a letter or email, regarding the 30 days? -Angie Conn, Planning Administrator From: BSchick @simon.com [mailto:BSchick @simon.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:21 AM 3 To: Lux, Pamela K; Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Holiday /Seasonal outdoor sales Hi Ladies well its that time again where I'm trying to pull together something. This time I do have a vendor for Christmas trees /wreaths/garland. Per the email below we were given permission to do this for 30 days via the ADLS Amendment. I hope its fair to assume that we can do the same thing again. This time it won't incorporate pumpkins or mums(like below) it will strictly be Christmas trees /wreaths /garland and be in the Grass Knoll area where the playground is. If you could let me know if we can still do the 30 days, I will put together the package and get a check cut We'd like to start Nov 20th Thank you... Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 Carmel, IN 46032 Telephone: 317-818-0725 Fax: 317 -818 -0920 Email: bschick(Lsimon.com "Lux, Pamela IC 06/11/2009 03:25:12 PM- -I Barbara Angie Conn City Planner -said that she will grant Administrative ADLS From: "Lux, Pamela K" <plux(iucarmel.in. gov> To: <BSchick @simon.com> Date: 06/11/2009 03:25 PM Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Hi Barbara Angie Conn City Planner —said that she will grant Administrative ADLS approval for your permits. She said it will cost $295.00 per event. This approval is valid for up to 30 days. I -hope this helps you. If you have further questions, please let me know. Thank you. Pam From: BSchick an simon.com [mailto :BSchickPsimon.com] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:04 PM To: Lux, Pamela K Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Just' following up to see if you had received the Temporary Use Permit costs. Just to make sure we are on the same page, I know we can do 10 days. Its the 11 days or more that we would have to apply for an ADLS Amendment to do outdoor seasonal sales. Our PUD doesn't have the same language as Carmel it self. I believe that Carmel code is 30 days for that. Just let me know, as we need to secure vendors as soon as possible, its approaching quickly. Thanks. Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 Carmel, IN 46032 Telephone: 317- 818 -0725 Fax: 317- 818 -0920 4 Email: bschick(iiisimon.com "Lux, Pamela K' <plux(cicarmel.in.gov> "Lux, Pamela K" <p1ux(it/carmel.in.Iov> To: <BSchick(iiisimon.corn> 06/04/2009 08:13 AM cc: Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Hi Barb I just wanted to update you regarding your temporary use permits. We are waiting to hear the fees from the Planning and Zoning office. As soon as I hear something, I will let you know. Thank you! From:BSchick@simon.com [mailto:BSchick(ti)simon.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:56 AM To: Lux, Pamela K Cc: Hollibaugh, Mike P Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Hi Pam. we tried to do this last year and I remember the cost to be alot of money Going to planning commission to get the "more than 10 day" approval, plus the permit seems like it was well over S 1,000 Can you give me the specifics dollar wise if we had to apply for an amendment to do seasonal outdoor sales for more than the 10 days called out in the PUD and when we need to apply by. We were right down to the wire last year and just couldnt make it work money and vendor wise. I'm trying to be ahead of the game this year. Thanks. Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 Carmel, 1N46032 Telephone: 317-818-0725 Fax: 317-818-0920 Email: bschick(simon.com Forwarded by Barbara Schick/Simon on 06/02/2009 10:50 AM [IMAGE} [WAGE] [IMAGE] "Boone, Rachel M." <rboonet' )carmel.in.>:ov> To; <BSchiclasimon.com> cc: "Lux, Pamela K" <plux(rkar.mel.in.gov> 06/02/2009 09:35 AM Subject: RE: Clay Terrace Barbara, I don't think the rules have changed...but here is the section from the Zoning Ordinance that allows you to have your pumpkin patch and Christmas tree sales. I've also included the definition of Seasonal Outdoor Sales for your reference. Here is a link to the Temporary Use application. I've copied Pam Lux from Building and Code Services on the email. She will be happy to help you with any questions about the approval. Pam, can you let Barbara know how much time you need to process the application? Thanks. SALES, SEASONAL OUTDOOR. The short-term sale of agricultural products that are seasonal in nature, including produce, nursery stock, Christmas trees, pumpkins, farmers' markets, and other similar products as qualified by the Director of Community Services. 5 25.24 Sales, Seasonal Outdoor, Temporary Use 25.24.01 Seasonal Outdoor Sales shall only be permitted in the zoning districts as per Appendix A: Schedule of Uses, such uses shall be allowed only as a Temporary Use, requiring a Temporary Use Permit. Local non -profit organizations shall be exempt from all fees associated with this type of Temporary Use permit. 25.24.02 Areas designated for Seasonal Outdoor Sales shall not be located within nor encroach upon: A. Any minimum required setback yard; B. Any drainage easement; C. A fire lane; D. A maneuvering aisle, E. A parking space or spaces necessary to meet the minimum parking requirements of the other use(s) of the lot or parcel. 25.24.03 Seasonal Sales may be located within parking areas, provided it: A. Does not interfere with pedestrian or vehicular access or parking. B. Does not create a visibility obstruction to moving vehicles within a parking lot. 25.24.04 Goods or merchandise displayed in conjunction with a Seasonal Outdoor Sale shall not exceed nine (9) feet in height. 25.24.05 Only one (1) Seasonal Outdoor Sales, Temporary Use permit shall be issued per property per year. Seasonal Outdoor Sales, Temporary Use Permits shall be issued for a term of thirty (30) consecutive days per permit unless otherwise approved by the Plan Commission. 25.24.06 Signs for Seasonal Outdoor Sales shall be prohibited except as provided by Section 25.07.03 -06: Signage for Temporary Uses of this Ordinance. 25.24.07 Architectural Design, Exterior Lighting, Landscaping and Signage. To insure the compatibility of the proposed temporary use with adjoining areas, the Commission shall review the Architectural Design, Exterior Lighting, Landscaping and Signage (ADLS) application of any proposed Seasonal Outdoor Sale. Once approved by the Commission, the Architectural Design, Exterior Lighting, Landscaping and Signage (ADLS) shall not be materially or substantially changed or altered without the prior approval of the Commission. Plan Commission approval is required prior to the issuance of Temporary Use Permit. An applicant may continue to use an ADLS Approval to obtain subsequent Temporary Use Permits provided that the proposed Temporary Use is consistent with such ADLS Approval, including time limits. Have a good day! Rachel Rachel Boone Sign Permit Specialist 317.571.2417 317.571.2426 fax From:BSchick @simon.com [mailto:BSchickcijsimon.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:29 PM To: Boone, Rachel M. Subject: RE: Clay Terrace If we tried again to do the outdoor seasonal sales, have the rules changed? Could we get the "better" deal as you quoted before versus the over S1000 since we have to buy a permit too? We need to file an app by when for a "pumpkin patch" which might only be 2 wks and then the Christmas tree /wreaths /garland etc would be a month... Barbara Schick General Manager Clay Terrace 14390 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 165 6 Carmel, 1N46032 Telephone: 317 -818 -0725 Fax: 317 -818 -0920 Email: bschick(dsimon.com 7