HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 03-21-07CARMEL TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES
Date: March 21, 2007
Place: Department of Community Services Conference Room
3rd Floor Carmel City Hall
Time: 9:00 AM
9:00 a.m. Bub's Cafe: The applicant seeks the following use variance development
standards variances for a cafe in a residential district:
Docket No. 07020017 UV Section 8.01.01 permitted uses
Docket No. 070020018 V Section 27.08 reduced 9 parking spaces
Docket No. 07020019 V Section 27.03.02 uncurbed parking area
The site is located at 220 2nd Street SW and is zoned R -2 /Residence in the Old
Town Overlay Character Sub -area. Filed by Matt Rachel Frey.
Northern Heights, lot 7
Petitioner Matt Frey.
Overview: Concept is to renovate an old home 1100 sq. ft with an outdoor deck
so we can have indoor and outdoor seating. Create a small parking lot. We will
be offering homemade donuts, waffles, eggs, coffee and tea. A simple concept
similar to the burger shop, but would be filling a void.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office sent letter today, we have
no objections to the use variance.
Angie Conn, DOCS no comment.
Matt Griffin, DOGS— no comment at this time
Chuck Shuppard, Vectren no comment
Scott Brewer, Urban Forester, DOGS— asked for a landscaping plan. No
further comments at this time.
Matt Frey indicated a lot of the landscaping is new and some previously
existing. Around the curb would be flowers, bigger trees are existing already. We
would like to create a natural landscape around the background section and use
that perhaps with picnic tables for i.e. a baby shower or birthday. The general
plan of the landscaping is to save the aesthetics, keep as much green space as we
possibly can. The big tree on the SE corner of the driveway it does have an
infestation which Scott indicates it may come through, limbs have fallen off, I
would like to remove this tree.. Utilities are marked on Second St.
Nick Redden, City of Carmel, Engineering. No comments at this time
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department apologized for not get letter out faster.
We are going to ask for a Knox box on the building, probably just a residential
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type. It costs just a little over $100. This is in case we need to get in there after
hours. What type of cooking appliances will be in place?
Matt Frey. A hood system, a flyer, a griddle, stove top and convection oven
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department the Knox box would allow us to get in
and start fighting the fire. Otherwise we have to call a key holder and wait for
them to get there.
Shirley Hunter, Duke Energy, we have already met with your electrician we
will upgrade service. Shawn South will be handling this account. We are still
waiting for load information from your electrician.
Ryan Hartman, CTRWD —out of our service area
David Littlejohn, DOGS— sent a letter last week regarding bike parking, a
sidewalk to be put in either the easement or within the right -of -way.
Discussion was held on possible location of bike racks. David will give Matt the
details on bike parking.
Further discussion took place regarding a handicap ramp with sidewalk perhaps
connect to actual deck.
Matt Frey distributed the latest site plan. On the plan is one of the oldest barns in
Carmel along with an outhouse. This will be donated to the historical society.
9:15 a.m. TABLED Applegate Condominiums The applicant seeks the
following development standards variance and special use approvals:
Docket No. 07010002 V
Section 23D.03.C.3.k(ii)
maximum building
height
Docket No. 07010003 V
Section 23D.03.C.3.f(i)
parking in front yard
Docket No. 07010004 V
Section 23D.03.C.3.i(i)
roof pitch
Docket No. 07010005 V
Section 23D.03.C.3.a(ii)
building mass /width
Docket No. 07010006 V
Section 23D.03.C.3.e(ii)
landscape
requirements
Docket No. 07010007 SU
Section 10.02.A
special uses
Docket No. 07010014 V
Section 23D.03.C.3.c.iii(b)
lot coverage over
70%
The site is located at 130 2 nd
St. NW., and is zoned R -4 /Residence within the Old
Town Overlay /Character Subarea. Filed by Tom Lazzara for On Track Properties,
Inc.
9:30 a.m. Docket No. 07030001 Z: 10212 -10218 North Michigan Road Rezone
The applicant seeks to rezone 8.91 acres from I1 to B2 to allow for medium
density commercial retail development.
The site is located at 10212 -10218 North Michigan Road and is within the US
421/Michigan Road Overlay. Filed by Joseph Calderon of Bose McKinney
Evans LLP for Thomas English Retail Real Estate LLC.
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Petitioner Thomas English Retail Real Estate, LLC
Overview: Joseph Calderon spoke for the petitioner. He introduced Tom English.
Mr. English's company would like to rezone approximately 9 acres of property,
which was previously owned by the Terry Pool Company. Terry Pool Company
will stay in its current location. Some possibilities for this property are a fitness
center, possibly a hotel and some small retail. Presently the ground is zoned
industrial I1, we would like to request a rezone to a B2.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, has sent comment letter no
objections to rezone
Matt Griffin, DOCS no comment we support the rezone from I1 to B2.
Chuck Shuppard, Vectren no comment.
Scott Brewer, DOGS, Urban Forester no comment
Nick Redden, City of Carmel, Engineering sent letter out of our jurisdiction
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department no comment
Shirley Hunter, Duke Energy IPL territory
Ryan Hartman, CRTWD no problem with the rezone we do have capacity
and will require plans further on.
David Littlejohn, DOCS no comment.
Christine Barton Holmes, DOCS no comments
9:45 a.m. Docket No. 07020029 SP: Village Green Section 2 Secondary Plat
The applicant seeks to plat 8 blocks on 6.314 acres.
The site is located 211 West Smokey Row Road (136th St.) and is zoned PUD.
Filed by Jim Shields of Weihe Engineers Inc. for Drees Homes.
Petitioner Drees Homes
Overview: John Talbot spoke for Drees Homes. This is the 2" d half of Village
Green, another 30 units, approximating 6 blocks.
Update of the extension of the master plan drainage that was approved in the initial
section I all part of the PUD that was approved.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office indicated he did not send a
letter because we a coordinating a meeting with Carmel Engineering later this
week, we work out the drainage issues then.
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Matt Griffin, DOGS: We will have a letter to you shortly with comments about
the secondary plat. This needs to get finished up and recorded
Follow up on Section I Matt is still waiting to get elevations on the end units
showing the use of brick.
John Talbot the end units that face Smokey Row will have brick.
Matt Griffin, DOCS- requested that DOCS receive a set of elevations that are
clearly marked.
Chuck Shuppard, Vectren Will handle the same as Section 1
Scott Brewer, DOGS, Urban Forester has approved the project. When you
submit building plans, please include landscape plan.
John Talbot asked that if Scott has any time available, they would appreciate it
if he could do a walk of the property. Dress will contact Scott and make an
appointment.
Nick Redden, City of Carmel Engineering still reviewing this we will send a
letter with our comments as soon as we can.
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department letter to Jim we took at look at the
emergency egress path would like to see if we can increase the width from 10 feet
to 12 feet give a bit more surface area to drive on. We were looking down where
the water main was looked like a temporary fire hydrant got moved, so that fire
hydrant went a away, we are asking for a new one on the east corner of Lot 91
We will discuss at a later time.
Jim: we will get you an updated fire hydrant site plan
Shirley Hunter, Duke Energy Distributed new service request form. Discussion
was held relative to the location of pole service. John Talbot indicated that Drees'
is in discussion with the attorney of a homeowner regarding this issue.
Ryan Hartman, CRWTD this is not in service area.
David Littlejohn, DOCS I have a letter for you. We would like to see a detail
of the trailhead. The Department requires I bike parking space for each 3 living
units. David also requested an easement go around the sidewalk as in Section 1.
The group viewed the site on a visual. David would also like to see a cross section
of the street plan
John Talbot indicated that David would be invited to an upcoming meeting.
Christine Barton Holmes, DOCS no comment
John Talbot asked Nick Redden to speak with Amanda Foley regarding storm
drainage approval.
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10:00 a.m. Docket No. 07030005 TAC: Energy Center City Center.
The applicant seeks to construct the energy center to serve the Performing Arts
Center.
The site is located at the intersection of 131 Street and Rangeline Road, and is
zoned Cl.
Filed by Karl Haas of Wallack, Somers, and Haas, PC for the CRC /City of Carmel.
Les Olds, Carmel Redevelopment Commission Director spoke for the petitioner.
Overview: Mr. Olds outlined on a visual where the energy center would be built,
which is the first part of a multi -use building. At a later time TAC will receive the
plans for the entire building, which would include the theater, parking garage and
three office buildings. This building is needed to supply power as quickly as
possible to provide heated and cooled water to performance center. Building is
very straight forward, basically a concrete box, filled with mechanical equipment.
We would like to get approval to proceed with this project.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office sent a comment letter, no
other comments at this time.
Angie Conn, DOCS no comment
Matt Griffin, DOCS no comment at this time
Chuck Shuppard, Vectren Energy we have gas out on the street we have
meter.
Scott Brewer, DOCS, Urban Forester If you need any assistance, he will be
happy to assist.
Nick Redden, City of Carmel Engineering no comment
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department Discussion of the sprinkler system
ensured. Gary indicated that these items will be reviewed again at a future
meeting.
Shirley Hunter, Duke Energy no comment
Ryan Hartman, CRWTD out of our service area
David Littlejohn, DOCS no comments
Christine Barton Holmes, DOCS no comment.
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10:15 Docket No. 07030006 ADLS Amend: Red Robin Clay Terrace
The applicant seeks approval for the construction of a free standing, 6,350- square
foot restaurant with outdoor seating at Clay Terrace.
The site is located at the intersection of 146 Street and Clay Terrace Boulevard,
and is zoned PUD.
Filed by John Finnemore of Red Robin, Inc.
Overview: John Finnemore gave a brief overview of this project. This restaurant
will be located on a remaining out -lot at Clay Terrace. It will be free standing. At this
time there are no plans to have outdoor seating included. It is the opinion of Red
Robin that this type of service plan does not work for them.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office No comment
Angie Conn, DOCS no comment
Matt Griffin, DOCS indicated to Mr. Finnemore that outdoor seating is an
integral part of all other restaurants in the Clay Terrace, and would strongly suggest
that Red Robin look to see if they can make this work
John Finnemore indicated that Red Robin is committed to the no outside seating.
Scott Brewer, DOGS, Urban Forester Due to the fact that the building
structure may have some changes in the way the building is situation on the site, Scott
will withhold his final approval and may contribute more comments at a later time.
Nick Redden, City of Carmel Engineering Still under review, will get back to
you as soon as possible.
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department discussion regarding type of sprinkler
and other fire department connections.
Shirley Hunter, Duke Energy requested a CAD drawing and load information.
Ryan Hartman, CRWTD this is not in the service area.
David Littlejohn, DOCS no commnet
Christine Barton Holmes, DOCS emphasized again that the Department feels
very strongly about outdoor seating. Every Clay Terrace eating establishment
offers patio dining. This is what makes Clay Terrace special. Christine stressed to
John Finnemore that the Plan Commission would be looking at this element also.
Christine also discussed the use of colors on the site, and that the color palette for
Clay Terrace must be used.
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10:30 Docket No. 07030008 ADLS Amend: Midwest ISO Security Fence
The applicant seeks approval for the construction of perimeter fencing and
additional landscaping related to the fence.
The site is located at 701 City Center Drive and is zoned M3 /Industrial Park.
Filed by Fred Simmons of Simmons Architects, LLC for Midwest ISO.
Fred Simmons spoke for the petitioner.
Overview: The purpose is for the ADLS amendment is twofold, both issues relate
to requests made by the Department of Homeland Security, since this is a sensitive
facility due to its use. The plan is to put a K8 rates fence around the area with
controlled gates at the two entrances. A K8 fence would accommodate a 15,000
lb vehicle 40 miles per hour and ramming in to it and not penetrating the fence.
The second issue relates to re- mounding the west side of the property on Circle
Center Drive to accommodate any sort of blast protection. Midwest ISO security
consultants recommended this design. The reason for this would with the
mounding the blast would deflect up and help secure the building. In 2002
landscaping was done, it is the intent that the landscape will be put back exactly as
it is.
We have received a letter from the County Surveyor's indicating some concerns
with drainage. We are investigating that. Received a letter from the engineering
consultant again with the same issue, this will be addressed.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office: We will re- review after
response to letter.
Matt Griffin, DOCS no comments. Matt did request a detailed drawing of the
gates
Fred responded that prior to special studies we will be submitting 3 different
options the most likely is that there won't be gates, but will be hydraulic driven
shafts.
Chuck Shuppard, Vectren no comments
Scott Brewer, DOGS, Urban Forester Did not receive a set of plans, please
send.
Nick Redden, City of Carmel Engineering Still reviewing and will get
comments to you as soon as we can.
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department no comment
Fred Simmons we will get with you at a later time on how to manage the gates.
Shirley Hunter, Duke Energy no opportunity to review plans yet. Will get
comments to you.
Ryan Hartman, CRWTD no comments
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David Littlejohn, DOCS no comments
Christine Barton Holmes, DOCS no comment
10:45 Docket No. 07030009 SP: Longridge Estates Section 4 Secondary Plat
The applicant seeks approval to plat 11 lots on 6.33 acres:
The site is located at 141 Street and Shelborne Road and is zoned S1 /Residential.
Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth Associates, Inc for Platinum
Properties, LLC.
Steve Broerman spoke for the Platinum Properties. Attending with him is Ed
Fleming of Stoeppelwerth and Associates.
Overview: This is Section IV the final section of Longridge estates. It consists of
11 lots on approximately 6.5 acres.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office: Sent comment letter. You
need to increase easement on south of open ditch, concerns regarding the flow
from swale, erosion issues. Need overall landscape plans.
Matt Griffin, DOCS: need to show monumentation either in legend or on plot.
Chuck Shuppard, Vectren: just follow previous section.
Scott Brewer, DOGS, Urban Forester indicated he had not received any plans.
Steve assured him he will receive them ASAP
Nick Redden, City of Carmel Engineering still reviewing and will get out a
comment letter as soon as we can.
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department The City Ordinance for fire hydrants has
changed. Stortz hydrants are now required. You may purchase an Stortz adapter
for current hydrants at about $160/hydrant. You may put the same hydrant as in
the other areas, but from now on Stortz will be required. These will be replaced
by attrition.
Shirley Hunter, Duke Energy Will come out of Section II. Would like to look
at the pole line on south side. Shirley will review this plan and contact Steve to
discuss later. She also requested a CAD drawing.
Ryan Hartman, CRWTD Did not receive any plans.
David Littlejohn, DOCS sent a letter asking to see the path on the southwest
corner and what does it connect to. Steve replied it does not connect. David
reviewed the need for the sidewalk to be 5ft sidewalk.
Discussion regarding the path and what would be needed to continue
This will be looked at further.
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Christine Barton Holmes, DOCS no comment
11:00 Docket No. 07030010 SP: Towne Oak Estates Secondary Plat
The applicant seeks approval to plat 16 lots on 18.75 acres:
The site is located on Towne Road south of 131 Street and is zoned
S1/Residential.
Filed by Eric Batt of Schneider Corporation for Towne East Development, LLC.
Eric Batt presented for the petitioner, with him, Mark Humphries, Rick Huffinan
from Towne East, LLC.
Overview: parcel of 19 acres will be subdivided into single- family lots, cul -de- sac
with no outlets. It will border on West Clay. Entrance will be on Towne Road.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office sent comment letter direct
discharge not allowed. Must go to storm ordinance Discussed issues relating to
direct discharge, the storm ordinance, etc. Show utilities on landscape plans
Matt Griffin, DOCS on plat you need two property monuments on the eastern
boundaries.
Chuck Shuppard, Vectren we extend main to south coordinate let us know
when you are ready.
Scott Brewer, DOGS, Urban Forester emailed comment would like to see
utility line and easement.
Should have tree preservation details on landscape plan.
Nick Redden, City of Carmel Engineering still under review will get
comments to you as soon as we can.
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department presented letter with new comment
Stortz will now be the required fire hydrant.
Ryan Hartman, CRWTD have been discussing using a lift station we do have
this on a docket for the meeting on March 26, 2007 Hopefully a decision will be
made at that time.
David Littlejohn, DOCS the cul -de -sac needs to have a multi use path that meets
the path on the adjacent property. Correct page 2 3 of your site plan, does not
show correct location of subdivision.
Matt Griffin, DOCS please re- submit showing the connection of the path
Christine Barton Holmes, DOCS no comments
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