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CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, MARCH 29, 2007
Members present: Wayne Haney, Kevin Heber, Madeleine Torres (late arrival,) Susan Westermeier
DOCS Staff: Matt Griffin, Christine Barton Holmes, Rachel Boone
The Special Studies Committee will meet to consider the following items:
Docket No. 07020005 ADLS Amend Building: Roselli's Pizzaria patio enclosure
The applicant seeks approval to enclose an existing patio.
The site is located at 4335 West 106 Street, and is zoned B3 within the US 421/Michigan
Road Overlay.
Filed by Kellie Malcolm of Peterson Architecture for Roselli's Pizzaria.
Kellie Malcolm, Peterson Architecture appeared before the Committee representing Roselli's
Pizzaria. Kellie presented the design shelter for the existing, exterior seating area.
Matt Griffin: The Department has no issues with the design—it is attractive and functional. The
Department supports the proposal.
Wayne Haney made formal motion to approve Docket No. 07020005 ADLS Amend Building:
Roselli's Pizzaria patio enclosure, seconded by Kevin Heber, APPROVED 3 -0.
2. Docket No. 07030027 ADLS Amend: Pearson Ford Signage
The applicant seeks approval for new wall signs.
the site is located at 10650 N. Michigan Rd. and is zoned B -3.
Filed by Dave Coots for Coots, Henke Wheeler.
Dave Coots, Coots Henke Wheeler appeared before the Commission representing Pearson
Ford. A booklet containing renderings of the multiple signs was submitted for consideration and
approval, subject to the Board of Zoning Appeals approval of number and size. At the BZA
hearing on Monday, March 26 the BZA declined to grant the additional signs for Cats and
Cummins Engines.
The petitioner is seeking approval to replace the "Truck Center" sign with the Auto Credit
Builders. Truck Center has moved to the north and will be replaced by Auto Credit Builders.
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Auto Credit Builders is a new, totally separate entity, of which Pearson Ford is a part. Pearson
Ford will sell used vehicles to credit risks. The size of the Auto Credit Builders sign was
approved by BZA; the letters are the same height as the other signs, just more letters.
The Pearson Ford sign on the south side of the Truck Center will be relocated to the north side
so that traffic headed south on 421 will see this sign. The Performance Collision Center sign will
have their logo added in red maroon. The petitioner is requesting approval of the appearance of
the logo.
Department Report, Matt Griffin: There are no issues with the proposed signage; what is
presented is a unified sign package. The Department would rather the Auto Credit Builders sign
color be blue.
DOCS, Rachel Boone commented that the logo requires a variance for the Performance Collision
Center sign.
Matt Griffin agreed to maroon red on the Performance Collision Center logo.
Madeleine Torres made formal motion to approve Docket No. 07030027 ADLS Amend,
Pearson Ford Signage as presented, seconded by Wayne Haney, Approved 4 -0.
3. Docket No. 07030008 ADLS Amend: Midwest ISO Security Fence
The applicant seeks approval for the construction of perimeter fencing and additional
landscaping related to the fence.
The site is located at 701 City Center Drive and is zoned M3 /Industrial Park.
Filed by Fred Simmons of Simmons Architects, LLC for Midwest ISO.
Fred Simmons, Simmons Architects appeared before the Committee representing Midwest ISO.
The Department of Homeland Security is requesting a security fence be installed at the Midwest
ISO facility in Carmel for the purpose of keeping people from entering the property and also
protecting the property from vehicles entering at a high rate of speed.
The security fence would not be a typical wrought iron fence; the fence would be 6 feet high, four
horizontal bars, a K -8 classification capable of withstanding a 4,000 pound vehicle crashing into it
with no penetration.
The gates would be sliding or hydraulic ballards —more aesthetically pleasing than a rolling gate
and offers higher security. The building is highly secure, manned and monitored 24 hours per day.
There would also be additional berming along Circle Center Drive. Homeland Security
recommended an extra secure fence to protect from bomb blast from a truck or car through the
mounding. Midwest ISO will re -grade and relocate planting materials on the property. Drainage
is being worked through with the Engineering Dept. The shape of the mounding may modify
depending on conversations with Engineering.
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Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The Department has no concerns, no issues. The proposal
is in response to a sensitive situation and a reality at this point.
Madeleine Torres made formal motion to approve Docket No. 070300087 ADLS Amend,
Midwest ISO Security Fence, seconded by Wayne Haney, Approved 4 -0.
4. Docket No. 07030017 ADLS Amend: Meridian Mark Plaza Signage
The applicant seeks approval to amend their sign package.
The site is located at 11711 N. Meridian St. and is zoned B -6.
Filed by Steve Granner for Bose McKinney Evans LLP.
Steve Granner, Zoning Consultant, Bose McKinney Evans, 300 Pennsylvania Parkway
appeared before the Committee representing Hewlitt Packard and Zeller Properties. A new wall
sign is being proposed for the building located at 11711 North Meridian Street.
The proposed wall sign is bronze anondized, and is within the size, lighting, and color guidelines
of the Ordinance. The logo is actually the sign and the BZA approved the variance for the logo
Monday evening.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The Department supports the petitioner's request; the sign
meets the sign package.
Madeleine Torres confirmed that the BZA hearing officer approved the variance.
Wayne Haney made formal motion to approve Docket No. 07030017 ADLS Amend, Meridian
Mark Plaza Signage, seconded by Madeleine Torres, APPROVED 4 -0.
5. Docket No. 07030026 ADLS Amend: Hamilton Beverage Signage
The applicant seeks approval for two new wall signs.
The site is located at 2290 E. 116 St. and is zoned B -8.
Filed by Mary Solada for Bingham McHale.
Matt Price, attorney, Bingham McHale appeared before the Committee representing the applicant.
Jay Wiser, Construction Superintendent was also in attendance.
The building located at 2290 East 116 Street, Carmel will be converted from a two -tenant
building to a one tenant building to be occupied solely by Hamilton Beverage. The conversion is
part of a remodeling project to provide more storage and increase wine selections. The exterior
changes will involve removing one set of entry doors and relocating the entry in the center of the
building. With the increased interior space, the inventory will no longer be stacked in the
windows.
The petitioner has filed a variance application with the Board of Zoning Appeals for the wall sign
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not facing a public right -of -way as well as the size of the signs. The variances were continued and
will be reviewed by the BZA on April 23, 2007.
The petitioner is working with the landlord for consent to the proposed changes in the exterior of
the building. At this time, the petitioner would like to undertake the remodeling aspect and
minim facade changes of the project under ADLS review and return to the Special Studies
Committee with a complete sign package after the BZA meeting on April 23r The proposal also
up -dates the sign package to conform to the United Package Liquors logo.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The Department has no issues with the building renovation
and with one unified space. The Department supports the proposed renovation and recommends
approval for the changes in facade. The Department is recommending that the sign text utilize
one color; the petitioner will return with a complete sign package for approval.
Madeleine Torres commented that there is clutter in the windows and every window has a sign.
Overall, it is very busy, a lot going on, and would look more presentable if the windows were
cleaned up. Madeleine Torres asked for a commitment from the petitioner to clear the windows.
The petitioner responded that the newspaper boxes are gone, the dumpster is being moved to the
west side of the property and will be enclosed with a fence, the coke machines have been reduced
in number to two.
Madeleine Torres made formal motion for approval of Docket No. 07030026 ADLS Amend,
Hamilton Beverage Signage conditioned upon the window signage and newspaper boxes being
removed, the vending machines being reduced in number to two, the relocation of the dumpster to
the west side (dumpster to be enclosed with a fence) and the remodeling and minimal changes
proposed in the facade. The petitioner will return for a complete sign package after review by the
BZA in April. The motion was seconded by Wayne Haney and Approved 4 -0.
6. Docket No. 07010009 DP /ADLS: Sunrise of Carmel
The applicant seeks to construct a 4- story, 150,802 square foot independent and assisted
living facility on 4.10 acres.
The site is located at the northeast corner of Old Meridian Street and US 31, and is zoned B6
within the US 31 Overlay.
Filed by Mary Solada of Bingham McHale LLP for Sunrise Development, Inc.
Docket No. 07020006 Zoning Waiver: Sunrise of Carmel
The applicant seeks a waiver to increase the Floor Area Ratio from 0.70 to 0.84, a 20%
increase, in the construction of a 4 -story continuing care facility with underground parking.
The site is located at the northeast corner of Old Meridian Street and US 31, and is zoned B6
within the US 31 Overlay.
Filed by Mary Solada of Bingham McHale LLP for Sunrise Development, Inc
Matt Price, attorney, Bingham McHale appeared before the Committee representing the applicant.
Also in attendance: Tim Hedges, Sunrise Development, Jack Scott, architect, Ashton Fritz and
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Gary Murray, Schneider Engineering.
Matt Price commented that the last committee meeting focused on presenting sketches of the US
31 elevation and the petitioner was asked to detail the elements of the facade that showed a more
urban character and a more suburban character. The petitioner was asked to return to this
meeting to show other elevations from the US 31 side and other elevations. Photographs of the
interior of the buildings were also presented. Landscaping and outdoor amenities were also
discussed; the petitioner was asked to add landscaping and to identify more outdoor amenities as a
part of this proposal.
Jack Scott addressed the Committee the elevations have been revised in response to comments
made by the Committee. Roofs: The massive portion —the highlighted ends —the slope has been
increased as well as the wall quality on the elevation for the creation of perception of height. The
buildings have greater depth in the gable faces; the center piece and ends are maximized and
varied.
Elements: There is real differentiation in color of brick--deeper and lighter —and matched with
pre -cast lentils at the top of the windows. Segmental arches have been added in the porch areas.
There is a Flemish bond patterning in the gabled area.
On the east side, there are variations using the same elements highlighting the center section, the
entry area. The tower element matches or balances the element with the open porches, using
deeper field of brick color with more pale/beige brick. The north and south elevations highlight
the assisted living area. The independent living has a more certain rhythm in mass and system; the
entry area is still highlighted.
Site: The area between the building and US 31 provides benches all around the walkway system
that extends around the building. There are four (4) stepts down to a terrace or patio area for
each resident. The Fire Marshall accepted sub -turf structure to allow an all -green area for
emergency access. The total environment inside and out has a continuous walking loop with
benches, sitting areas, trellis areas, bird feeders, and a vegetable garden. There are outdoor
balconies on the third and fourth floors. The Gazebo has been shifted closer to the walk/multi use
path.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The petitioner has made a lot of changes in small, detail
elements and has come a long way. On of the biggest changes is the standing seam metal roof as
opposed to shingles, and will blend and tie into the Old Meridian flavor. More texture and detail
are shown in the drawings; the materials are similar to the building. The retaining wall is two
three feet tall maximum and is not visible from US 31 because of the grade. At this time, the
Department definitely supports the project with the changes made to date.
Christine Barton Holmes: The south elevation shows dark areas under the windows— petitioner
states they are mechanical units. One tower on the south elevation is below the eaves, all other
above—petitioner will draw the tower up and even with the others. Regarding the site plan —the
wheelchair ramp should feed at 93 degree angle—it is much safer.
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Committee comments /questions:
Wayne Haney asked about the walk on the north end of the independent living—is it a ramp?
Petitioner responded that it is not a ramp per se, but rather is an exit stair with a walk to the first
floor level. How many elevators? Petitioner states there are two elevators, one inside, one
outside. How many parking spaces are provided; how many persons in the independent living
units —how many in the assisted living? Petitioner states there are 109 parking spaces; there are
62 independent living units and 78 assisted living units. The garage spaces number 36 or 38 and
are located underground. Wayne Haney asked about kitchen deliveries —into a garage and up an
elevator? Petitioner states that deliveries are made at ground level, onto a ramp, then to a service
elevator.
Madeleine Torres asked about the one -story kitchen connector, whether or not it could be dressed
up and if it is a necessity.
Jack Scott responded that the one story kitchen connector is a necessity and is an operational
issue —the commercial kitchen is housed there. The connector kitchen serves both buildings and
is the top of the garage as well. It is approximately 1,500 to 2,000 square feet and will not be
seen from the west elevation (from US 31) because of the berm.
Torres, how will trucks enter, and where is the kitchen delivery? What about the trash enclosure?
Jack Scott responded that the trucks will enter from the low grade parking area —the slope is on
the side. Ordinarily there is a trash compactor—it is collected inside —there is no outside trash
dumpster area.
Susan Westermeier asked about access for ambulances —Matt Griffin said he must rely on the
fires marshall if he has no issues and supports the layout, the Department would also support.
Kevin Heber asked about the multi -use path—it serves Old Meridian and should be ten (10) feet
wide. Kevin said he would like to see the path pulled in and a little grass between the curb and
the path. Matt Griffin said the City would pick up the path after leaving the northern terminus and
finish to the round about; the balance of the walk would be six feet wide, concrete construction.
Matt Griffin stated no issues with the zoning waivers.
Susan Westermeier asked about the outdoor garden area —how big and is it fenced. Jack Scott
said the outdoor garden area is centrally located along the north side with a four -foot high fence,
low profile area, gate on either side, controlled area with landscaping and benches.
Susan Westermeier also asked about outdoor balconies. Jack Scott said there are actually terraces
on the first floor and fourth floor for residents who cannot get out and walk by themselves. The
communal area has the terraces —not assisted living units.
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Matt Griffin reported that in regard to the lighting, the Department is at an impasse. There is a
string of lights around entry points and the Department does not feel strongly. If the lighting is
contained and downlit, it is OK. The photometric plan complies with the US 31 Overlay.
Susan Wetermeier noted that some people not on the committee had issues with the project and
wanted more detail, more pattern, better design, and wanted to prevent Alzheimer's people from
walking into the street.
Tim Hedges said the Alzheimer's is a secure, locked area on the fourth floor—it is unlikely
anyone would wander off.
Wayne Haney said he was comfortable with the interior of the facility as shown.
Madeleine Torres made formal motion to forward Docket No. 07010009 DP /ADLS, DP /ADLS,
Sunrise of Carmel, and Docket No. 07020006 Zoning Waiver, Sunrise of Carmel to the Plan
Commission with a favorable recommendation with the commitment of no outdoor dumpster area
and a 10 -foot wide path at the north end, seconded by Wayne Haney, Approved 4 -0.
7. Docket No. 07020012 Z: 1328 -1440 W. Main Street Rezone
The applicant seeks to create to rezone property from OM /SU and S2 within the US 31
Overlay to B6 within the US 31 Overlay.
The site is located at the NE corner of US 31 (Meridian) and W. Main Street and is zoned Old
Meridian Special Use (OMSU), S2, and is within the US 31 Overlay.
Filed by Eugene Valanzano of Baker and Daniels for Browning Real Estate Partners and the
City of Carmel
Jamie Browning, Browning Real Estate Partners appeared before the Committee representing
Browning Real Estate Partners and the City of Carmel. The subject site contains 20 acres located
at US 31 and Old Meridian, currently owned by St. Christopher's Church.
The petitioner is applying for a change in zoning from OM /SU and S -2 to B -6 Business within the
US 31 Overlay District. The B -6 zoning complies with the Carmel Comprehensive Plan.
Currently there are conflicting zones and does not allow for residential.
Jamie Browning distributed a preliminary site plan for the Committee. The proposal is for mixed
use with hotel, or small retail with offices above. There would be office -type uses or other, to be
determined. It is likely that some of the property will be conveyed to another party. Browning
Investments will probably put in the roads and drainage.
The petitioner has met with the TAC committee to discuss road and the drainage area has been
studied. The petitioner has talked with the County Surveyor and Engineering; the road aligns
with the new Grand Boulevard and Pennsylvania Street on 131S Street.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: At this stage, the request is a rezone only. The Department
is working with the applicanta lot of issues are still being worked out. In terms of straight
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rezone, the Department is in full support —the proposal complies with the Comprehensive Plan for
the City.
Madeleine Torres asked about the roads —the connectivity of US 31 —and future plans.
Matt Griffin responded that there was some discussion about what would happen with US 31 and
what INDOT will do in the future. In terms of Carmel streets, the City Engineer is comfortable in
continuing to work with the applicant. Whatever the City does, INDOT will do what needs to be
done at this intersectiona lot of it is
Mike Hollibaugh reported that at one point, a bridge was proposed over 31, the thoroughfare plan
amended and the extension eliminated. At a Plan Commission presentation, that information was
obsolete. Currently, there is no plan for a bridge of any kind; round abouts will suffice and
facilitate traffic.
Kevin Heber made formal motion to forward Docket No. 07020012 Z, 1328 -1440 West Main
Street Rezone to the full Plan Commission with a favorable recommendation, seconded by
Madeleine Torres, approved 4 -0.
There was no further business to come before the Committee and the meeting adjourned at 7:45
PM.
Susan Westermeier, Acting Chairperson
Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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