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City of Carmel
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
TUESDAY, MARCH 16, 2010
6 PM, City Hall Council Chambers
1 Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Brad Grabow, Judy Hagan, Heather Irizarry, Nick Kestner, Kevin
"Woody" Rider, Steve Stromquist, Madeleine Torres, Susan Westermeier
Leo Dierckman, Jay Dorman, Rick Ripma
DOCS Staff Present: Director Michael Hollibaugh, Angie Conn, Alexia Donahue -Wold, and
Legal Counsel John Molitor
Also Present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary
Note: In the absence of the President and Vice President, Brad Grabow chaired the meeting as
President pro -tem.
The Minutes of the February 16, 2010 meeting were approved as submitted
Legal Counsel Report, John Molitor: An update on the Johnson Acres garage situation is anticipated
next month. Also, the Carmel SmartCode was defeated at City Council last evening.
Department Announcements, Angie Conn: The Kroger Docket listed as an Old Business Item has been
Tabled until the April 20, 2010 meeting
H. Public Hearings
1. Docket No. 10010007 DP /ADLS: Legacy PUD The Livingstone Cottages
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for an adult family living/continuing care development.
The site is located at the northwest corner of Community Dr. and Cherry Creek Blvd. It is zoned
PUD /Planned Unit Development. Filed by Brandon Adomatis of Adult Family Living, Inc.
Present for Petitioner: Steve Hardin, attorney; Brett Huff, Stoeppelwerth Engineers
Overview:
Proposed project is first in a four -phase proposal for senior, residential housing
Proposed project is within the Legacy PUD Development
Most all information submitted with the informational packets
Request forwarding to Committee with provision for final approval of Committee
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No Public Remonstrance; Public Hearing Closed
Department Report, Angie Conn:
Forestry Dept has approved the revised landscape plan
Engineering Dept has approved the project subject to their approval of construction documents
Dept recommends sending this item to April first Subdivision Committee with full authority for final
vote
Commission Comments /Questions:
Request for more information
Steve Hardin:
Project is for senior, residential units for seniors suffering from dementia and Alzheimer's
Two buildings will comprise the first phase, 12 private rooms per building
Full time care givers on site
Summary of green elements of the project provided in informational packets
Garages on -site will be used for care givers /employees
Motion: Woody Rider "To grant Subdivision Committee full authority for final vote on Docket No. 10010007
DP /ADLS, Legacy PUD, The Livingstone Cottages." The motion was seconded by Sue Westermeier, approved
8 -0.
2. Docket No. 10010008 DP /ADLS: Meridian Pointe
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a 174 -unit multi family development. The site is
located at 12346 Old Meridian St. It is zoned OM /O Old Meridian District, Office. Filed by Anthony
Birkla of Anderson Birkla Investment Partners, LLC for Carmel Development I, LLC.
Present for Petitioner: Mary Solada, attorney; Anthony Birkla and Tim Hill, Anderson Birkla Investment
Partners.
Overview:
Property is 6.25 acres located south of 126thStreet at Old Meridian
Property is triangular and has dual frontage
Northern portion of property is under restriction with Meijer that it will never be developed— Meijer uses
the land for drainage
Property was previously approved for an office development but due to economics, was subsequently put
back on the market
Current proposal is for a 4 -story, 174 unit, luxury apartment building
Building sits relatively close to Old Meridian and Pennsylvania Street
Building is an urban design, primarily masonry, and close to LEED status
Variance is required for apartment use in current zoning district
Site will be heavily landscaped
Anthony Birkla, Comments:
Building is 4- stories, 174 units with elevator
Mid -rise, luxury residential development
Project is situated on round -about at Pennsylvania and Old Meridian
Site is surrounded by an array of mixed uses
Product geared to 25 to 35 year -old, renter by choice
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Anderson Birkla focuses on sustainable practices and will incorporate those standards
No Public Remonstrance; Public Hearing Closed
Dept Report, Angie Conn:
Outstanding items to be addressed at Committee: Tree Inventory, cut sheets on signage
Dept recommends this item be sent to Subdivision Committee with possible full authority for final vote
Commission Questions /Comments:
Location of path thru the project?
No sidewalks on either side?
Any indoor or underground parking?
Connectivity of paths along Pennsylvania Meridian Streets to front door of buildings?
Provision for indoor bike storage?
Request streetscape be distributed at Committee
Where different colors and materials will be placed would be helpful— please enlarge /clarify
Address any consideration to extending the bike path across the entire property so that other persons
could get from Old Meridian to Pennsylvania and beyond —a short cut path
Signage —need to know location, size, aesthetics
Tim Hill, Anderson Birkla Investments:
Location of structural supports would not allow construction of a sidewalk
Anticipating installing pavers rather than 10 foot sidewalk in front of entry
Secondary access on the west side
Approximately 10% of the units have attached garage parking
Indoor trash compactors and recycling stations
Anderson Birkla intends to be long -term owner of the apartment community
10 -foot bike path around entire site with connectivity
Internal bike lockers will be utilized
Awning rendering cornice signs shown— working on the details
Motion: Sue Westermeier "To delegate full authority to Subdivision Committee for a final vote on Docket No.
10010008 DP /ADLS, Meridian Pointe." The motion was seconded by Madeleine Torres, voted 7 in favor, one
opposed (Grabow) Motion approved 7 -1.
3. Docket No. 09090004 OA: SCO Ch 4: Definitions, Amend
The applicant seeks to amend Chapter 4: Definitions of the Subdivision Control Ordinance in order to
add definitions for Preliminary Plat and Final Plat. Filed by the Department of Community Services, on
behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission.
Present for Petitioner: Alexia Donahue -Wold, Department of Community Services, City of Carmel.
Overview:
Ordinance Amendment will adopt two, new Definitions to Subdivision Control Ordinance
Initially brought before Plan Commission last year and was put on hold pending additional amendments
Presently, no new Amendments —will proceed with current Amendment
Department Report, Angie Conn:
Recommend Plan Commission suspend its Rules of Procedure
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Recommend forwarding to City- Council this evening
No Public Remonstrance; Public Hearing Closed
Motion: Sue Westermeier "To suspend the Rules of Procedure." The motion was seconded by Madeleine
Torres, approved 8 -0.
Motion: Sue Westermeier "To forward Docket No. 09090004 OA, SCO Ch 4, Definitions, Amend to City
Council with a favorable recommendation." The motion was seconded by Woody Rider, Approved 8 -0.
4. Docket No. 10020015 Z: C -1 Rezone, Arby's /Party Time /Langston Properties
The applicant seeks to rezone 6 properties from B -3 /Business and I -1 /Industrial zoning, within the
Carmel Dr /Range Line Rd Overlay, to the C -1 /City Center zoning classification. The properties are
located at the northwest corner of Range Line Rd. and Carmel Dr. Filed by the Department of
Community Services, on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission.
Present for Petitioner: Michael Hollibaugh, Director, Department of Community Services, Carmel.
Overview:
Propose rezoning approximately 10 acres within City Center area to C -1 /City Center zone
Property located at northwest corner of Range Line Road and Carmel Drive
Proposal is to rezone 6 parcels from B -3 /Business and I -1 Industrial Zone to C -1 /City Center Arby's,
Party Time Rental, and 4 tracts owned by Langston Development
Proposal includes key infrastructure extending Executive Drive, enhancing Range Line and Executive
Drive intersection to bring Executive Drive into Veterans Way, and structured parking to help make up
the difference in elevation on Range Line Road, especially at the Party Time site.
At this time, there are no specific proposals or details other than a likely, multi -use building pulled up to
the street
Redevelopment will occur at some future point
No Public Remonstrance; Public Hearing Closed
Department Report, Angie Conn:
Request Suspension of Rules and forwarding to City Council
Motion: Sue Westermeier "To suspend the Rules of Procedure," seconded by Judy Hagan, approved 8 -0
Motion: Steve Stromquist "To forward Docket No. 10020015 Z, C -1 Rezone, Arby's /Party Time /Langston
Properties to the City Council with a favorable recommendation." The motion was seconded by Madeleine
Torres, approved 8 -0.
I. Old Business
1. TABLED TO APRIL 20: Docket No. 09100009 DP /ADLS: Long Branch Market w/ Kroger
(Altum's site). The site is located at 11335 North Michigan Road. It is zoned B-3/Business and
located partially within the US 421/Michigan Road Overlay. Filed by Robert Barker of Zinkan
Barker Development Co., LLC.
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2. Docket No. 09100011 DP /ADLS: CVS Pharmacy at Rangeline Rd.
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new retail building. The site is located at 1421 S.
Rangeline Rd. and is zoned B -8 /Business within the Carmel Dr. Range Line Rd. Overlay Zone. Filed
by Craig Forgey of Gershman Brown Crowley, Inc.
Present for Petitioner: Charlie Frankenberger, attorney, Nelson and Frankenberger; Tom Crowley, Gershman
Brown Crowley, and other members of the development team. Also present: Jon Dobosiewicz, Land Planner
with Nelson and Frankenberger.
Overview:
Site is located at northeast corner of Medical Drive and Range Line Road
Site is currently occupied by a CVS and Taco Bell
Proposal will replace CVS and Taco Bell with one, new CVS store
Current architecture and design of the building are not consistent with the desired character of the Range
Line Road corridor
The site is somewhat cramped and parking and site circulation are difficult
The proposal was referred to the Special Studies Committee for review and is now being referred back
to the Plan Commission with a unanimous, favorable recommendation
The BZA granted development standard variances on the site January 26, 2010
The building has been revised by continuing wrapping the kneeboard around the southwest corner and
by providing some variation to the east elevation of the building
As a condition of BZA approval for requested variances, petitioner agreed to no signage painted on or
affixed to the windows
City Engineer recommended removing the on- street parking
Special Studies Committee recommended getting two bids for cost of installation of on- street parking;
petitioner would then pay into the City's Thoroughfare Fund, the average of the two bids written into
the Findings of Fact as a condition of approval
Petitioner is requesting approval from the Plan Commission this evening
Department Report, Angie Conn:
Two remaining staff comments to be addressed prior to recommendation of approval:
Pedestrian crosswalk across drive
Location of stub in relation to parcel to the east
Jon Dobosiewicz, response to Staff Comments:
Site plan revisions were submitted illustrating striped crosswalk connection thru parking lot to access
remaining parking area
Site plan also shows connection to the property to the east
Revisions also cited elevations with building materials
Petitioner is providing turn -out to the property to the east (Ordinance requires it)
Committee Report, Woody Rider:
No outstanding issues from Special Studies
Committee voted unanimous 4 -0 to recommend approval
Commission Questions /Comments:
Businesses need to be seen —trees should not block signage
Windows —how far back is signage? Maintenance could be an issue
Any possibility of expanding Medical Drive at the intersection to allow for dedicated right turn lane?
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Response Comments, Michael Hollibaugh:
Some right -of -way will be dedicated at this intersection, but not a great deal of expansion proposed for this
intersection. City Engineer has considered the possibility of a roundabout as well —no right lane turn proposed.
Response Comments, Jon Dobosiewicz:
Sufficient right -of -way has been dedicated to provide for future construction of a right or left turn lane at this
intersection. This area was to have been on- street parking.
No graphics will be applied to the window; the picture behind the window will be coordinated with perhaps the
Carmel Clay Historical Society to provide photos that might be used for the back -drop. Local art work will also
be placed behind the window —not just a window but a bay area for easy maintenance.
Motion: Woody Rider "To approve Docket No. 09100011 DP /ADLS, CVS Pharmacy at Range Line Road, with
the addition that Urban Forestry work with the petitioner to do plantings in front of the building that will never
block their signage." The motion was seconded by Sue Westermeier, Approved 8 -0
J. New Business
1. Docket No. 10010006 ADLS: Cannel Science Tech Park, Blk 7, lot 1 Midwest ISO
The applicant seeks design approval for a building to expand its data center. The site is located at 701
City Center Dr. and is zoned M -3 /Manufacturing. Filed by Fred Simmons of Simmons Architects, LLC
for Midwest ISO.
Present for Petitioner: Fred Simmons, Simmons Architects, 305 East New York Street, Indianapolis.
Overview:
Proposal is for a free standing, un- occupied building that will more than double data center capacity
Possibility that only half of the expansion will be constructed this year and the balance when needed
Building is single -story, no roof -top equipment
Building materials will match existing building materials, colors, and patterns
Original headquarters building, 720 City Center Drive) was designed for a portion of the data center to be
located in the basement and mechanical equipment in the parking lot this never came about
Site has a parking ratio of 4 spaces per one thousand square feet; the Ordinance requires 3 per one
thousand square feet Midwest ISO is way over parked
Current parking calculations allow for expansion of the 720 building probably within the next few
years, by 35,000 square feet on three floors
Site plan shows a tree preservation area inventoried in 1999 when the 701 building was originally
designed
Petitioner has worked closely with the Urban Forester to mitigate the elimination of 35 trees to
accommodate the new facility
Petitioner has landscaped around the building as appropriate based on t he Ordinance
Wall- mounted light fixtures will be used
Department Report, Angie Conn:
All Department concerns have been addressed
Engineering Dept recommends that approval be conditioned upon Engineering Dept's approval of
construction documents
Recommend Plan Commission suspend its Rules
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0 Recommend approval
Motion: Woody Rider "To approve Docket No. 10010006 ADLS, Carmel Science Tech Park, Blk 7, lot 1,
Midwest ISO."
Commission Comments /Questions:
How many surplus spaces exist to back -fill the 79 space shortage?
Response, Angie Conn:
Taking both sites into account, there will be a surplus of 128 parking spaces
Further Questions from Commission:
How many persons working/occupying the new building? (Zero)
Is there a need for pedestrian crosswalk? (No— controlled environment)
Sue Westermeier seconded the motion made by Woody Rider; the motion was Approved 8 -0.
K. Adjournment at 7:15 PM.
Brad Gralfow, President Pro -Tem
mona coc ,Secretary
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