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INDIANA
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE
SEPTEMBER 7, 2010
Carmel City Hall
One Civic Square
Carmel IN 46032
6:00 PM
Members in attendance: Jay Dorman, Kevin "Woody" Rider, Steve Stromquist, Ephraim Wilfong
Note: Woody Rider divided his time between the Special Studies Committee and the City Council
meeting.
Members Absent: Susan Westermeier
DOCS Staff in attendance: Rachel Boone, Christine Barton- Holmes, and John Molitor, Legal Counsel.
Also present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary
Steve Stromquist was elected Committee Chairperson by Unanimous Consent
The Special Studies Committee considered the following items:
1. Docket No. 10080001 ADLS Amend: Parkwood Crossing, Building 6, Duke Realty Sign.
The applicant seeks approval to amend the color restrictions of the center to allow a new color
in their sign. The site is located at 600 E. 96th St. and is zoned B -6 /Business. Filed by Don
Miller of A Sign By Design on behalf of the owner.
Motion: Jay Dorman to re -order the Agenda and hear this Docket as the last item of business, since
this petitioner was not in attendance at the start of the meeting; seconded by Ephraim Wilfong,
approved 4 -0.
Present for Petitioner: Don Miller, A Sign By Design, 4725 W. 100 Street, Zionsville, on behalf of
Duke Realty.
Overview:
Proposed sign is for a multi level, multi -tenant office building
Proposed sign is 88 square feet and allowable under the Ordinance
Proposed sign is black during the day, white at night
Change only applies to Duke as owner of the property
The word "Realty" would be added in green for Duke
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Department, Rachel Boone:
Ordinance allows a 90 square foot sign —new sign is allowable
Dept is in support of adding "Realty" in green because Applicant owns the development and
agrees that they are the only ones to be allowed color in their sign (aside from 25% rule for
logos)
No other issues
Motion: Jay Dorman "To approve Docket No. 10080001 ADLS Amend, Parkwood Crossing, Building
6, Duke Realty Sign, as submitted to the Committee," seconded by Woody Rider, approved 4 -0.
2. Docket No. 10080002 ADLS Amend: Carmel Office Park Building 4, Sollenberger
Partners Signage. The applicant seeks approval for a new ground sign. The site is located at
1000 3` Ave. SW and is zoned I -1 /Industrial. Filed by Amy Rottman of Sign A Rama on
behalf of the owner.
Present for Petitioner: Amy Rottman, Sign A Rama, Indianapolis; Dale Sollenberger, Gradle Drive,
Carmel.
Overview:
Ground sign for newest building at request of leasing agent and tenants
Proposal now includes post only —no concrete block base
Landscaping at base of sign
Sign is 24 square feet, 70 inches high
Sign dimension is 6'4" X 46"
Department Report, Rachel Boone:
Tenant ID would be on the door
Sign would be non illuminated, address space for 4 tenants
Sign size allowable under sign ordinance
Petitioner to landscape around base of sign
Dept is in support of changing from concrete block base to posts
Exterior flood lighting of sign to be appropriate to size of sign
Color of sign trim matches building exterior
Motion: Jay Dorman "To approve Docket No. 10080002 ADLS Amend, Carmel Office Park, Building
4, Sollenberger Partners Signage conditioned upon the sign base being changed to posts rather than
concrete, and further conditioned upon final review and approval of the Dept of the landscaping and
lighting of the sign;" seconded by Ephraim Wilfong, approved 3 in favor, none opposed.
Docket No. 10080006 ADLS Amend: Jackson Hewitt Tax Service Signage
The applicant seeks approval to change the exterior color of the building and add a sign. The
site is located at 10602 N. College Ave. and is zoned B -2 /Business within the Home Place
Business District. Filed by Brenda Shipp of Bowling- Shipp, LLC d.b.a. Jackson Hewitt.
Present for Petitioner: Brenda Shipp 3596 Inverness Blvd., Carmel.
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Overview:
Propose one wall sign on south elevation
Sign is off -set to allow for additional tenant raceway color matches building exterior
Propose painting building exterior
Garage door will be painted to match building
Sign is 24.72 square feet, 78 feet in height
Department Report, Rachel Boone:
Business re- locating from across the street, current sign too big for new space
Dept in agreement with petitioner —in favor of individual letters
Dept concerns have been addressed
Garage not an issue, painting ok with Dept
Committee Questions /Comments:
Proposed color —blend with neighborhood? (Yes complements and coordinates with area
buildings)
Sign lighted? (Sign totally lit in daytime; on a light sensor subdued lighting at night)
Maybe paint rim of garage door to define? (Prefer no delineation of door for uniformity)
Committee OK with offset sign
Motion: Jay Dorman "To approve Docket No. 10080006 ADLS Amend, Jackson Hewitt Tax Service
Signage as presented to Committee;" seconded by Woody Rider, approved 4 -0.
4. Docket No. 10080012 ADLS Amend: Generations in Dentistry Signage
The applicant seeks approval to replace an existing ground sign with a new sign. The site is
located at 13331 Illinois St. and is zoned B -5 /Business. Filed by Jeff Gibbons of Pro Med Signs
and Doug Peet of Generations in Dentistry.
Present for Petitioner: Doug Peet, DDS, Generations in Dentistry, 13331 Illinois Street.
Overview:
Petitioner replacing existing monument sign
Proposed sign similar to existing, 2 year -old sign
Sign will be fully boxed, internally lit
Sign will have two lines of changeable copy
Department Report, Rachel Boone:
Petitioner entitled to changeable copy
Sign will be internally illuminated
Area surrounding sign will be seasonally landscaped, similar to existing
Pole cover base is aluminum with stucco texture
Sign contains 44 square feet, total height is 6 feet
Original concern with logo is that it was not presented clearly on sign rendering
New concern/question with new logo is how will it fit into the space provided on the sign
Department is in support of signage request
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Committee Questions /Comments:
Changeable copy a concern (petitioner says more difficult to remove less vandalism)
Changeable copy manual? (Yes)
Illuminated at night? (white faces will show darker and more pleasing; changeable copy will be
illuminated white letters on blue)
Prefer sign be completely wrapped in hard surface material
Motion: Jay Dorman "To approve Docket No. 10080012 ADLS Amend, Generations in Dentistry
Signage, conditioned upon the sign being wrapped in hard surface material as depicted in the
submission documents, and further conditioned upon the Committee abdicating to the Department of
Community Services any "tweaks" that need to be worked;" seconded by Woody Rider, approved 4 -0
5. Docket No. 10080014 ADLS Amend: Hazel Dell Corner, Lot 4 additional parking
The applicant seeks site plan approval to add 36 parking spaces. The site is located at 13185
Hazel Dell Pkwy and is zoned B -3 /Business. Filed by Eric Gleissner of Civil Site Group, Inc.
Present for Petitioner: Eric Gleissner, Civil Site Group, 643 Massachusetts Avenue, Indianapolis,
representing the owner.
Overview:
Propose addition of 36 parking spaces
Room for additional tenant parking would be really tight
Lot currently full and at maximum
Petitioner adding 8 trees and 83 shrubs to landscape plan to compensate for loss of greenspace
Currently unknown how lot 2 would be developed —did not want to restrict future
improvements
Dept Report, Christine Barton- Holmes:
Dept in support
Any approval should be conditioned upon approval of final construction documents by
Engineering Dept
Approval should also be conditioned upon installation of landscaping
Committee Questions, Comments:
Concern with traffic lights shining into back yard of residences to the west
Note: Petitioner states heavy tree line to the west provides very heavy screen for visual barrier
Motion: Woody Rider "To approve Docket No. 10080014 ADLS Amend, Hazel Dell Corner, Lot 4
additional parking, conditioned upon approval of final construction documents by Engineering and
installation of landscaping;" seconded by Jay Dorman, approved 4 -0.
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