HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 07-18-07CARMEL TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AGENDA
July 18, 2007
Department of Community Services Conference Room
3rd Floor Carmel City Hall
9:00 a.m. Docket No. 07050017 Z: 96th Street Crossing PUD TABLED
The applicant seeks approval to rezone 16.99 acres from S -2 /Residence to PUD /Planned
Unit Development for an office /retail /hotel development. The site is located at the northwest
corner of 96th St. and Spring Mill Rd.
Filed Charlie Frankenberger of Nelson& Frankenberger for Jennifer Burk of Duke Realty Limited
Partnership.
9:15 a.m. Docket No. 07070003 Z: 146th Gray Rezone (146th St Office
Complex)
The applicant seeks approval to rezone 11.6 acres from S -1 /Residence to B -1 /Business
for an office development. The site is located at the southeast corner of 146th St. and
Gray Rd. Filed by Kelli Lawrence of Hearthview Residential, LLC.
Docket No. 07070004 PP: 146th St Office Complex
The applicant seeks primary plat approval for 5 lots on 11.6 acres.
The site is located at the southeast corner of 146th St. and Gray Rd. and is zoned S1/
Residence, pending a B -1 /Business rezone. Filed by Kelli Lawrence of Hearthview
Residential, LLC.
Steve Borderet of Borderet Design presented. He was accompanied by Kellie Lawrence of
Hearthview Residential and Gene Valanzano of Baker and Daniels
Mr. Borderet reviewed the location of the parcel. The petitioner i will develop 7 acres of the 12
acre parcel. There will be 5 lots, 4 of which are professional /office, and one which will most likely
be a bank.
Drainage will be sent eastward. Sewer will be south of the property.
Nick Redden- Engineering We have no comment on the rezone and are still reviewing the
primary plat.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, no comment on the rezone. I have sent a
comment letter regarding the primary plat. The Surveyor's Office did get the release rates, there
will be a well on this site, we want to see the statutory easement of the Mitchner ditch shown,
move the tree buffer preservation area from within that easement because under drainage code
those trees could be removed. Will require some improvement to the Mitchner ditch and the
natural water course that comes from under Gray Road.
Steve Borderet asked about the course under Gray Rd. and that he understood it had recently
been improved, do you have any idea of what improvement you are looking for.
Greg Hoyes indicated they would be looking for more erosion improvement across the street.
Discussion on removal of trees from the southwest corner was held. Greg indicated they would
have to walk the land to have a more clear view of what will need to be done.
Angie Conn DOCS, sent a comment letter and has no further comments at this time.
Scott Brewer DOCS, indicated he has not sent a letter yet, but has reviewed the plans. Your
landscape plan, it should be covered under the perimeter buffer yard guidelines. It appeared to
be conceptual at best. It needs some more work, and Scott will be happy to provide more
comments in a letter at a later date. Scott will meet with Steve at a later time to walk the property
and discuss a more detailed landscape plan.
Davis Lucas, Hamilton County Highway emailed a copy of his comments to Jim Thomas
yesterday. Please notice #2 is the biggest comment on the list and that is no full access onto
146 street. We may consider a limited access depending upon the design.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, no problem with rezone.
Steve Borderet asked about easements Shirley indicated she did not know at this time. No
detailed engineering at this time.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department will you be having any fire alarm or sprinkler systems
at this site? Steve indicated that all building will be sprinkled.
Chris indicated that the buildings will need to be fitted with Knox boxes to allow fire department
access. The Carmel Fire Department also request that the fire department connections to the
sprinkler systems have Knox locking caps in place. This helps prevent tampering with the system
and helps reduce maintenance costs. Chris also updated the petitioner on a recent fire hydrant
specification changes that now will require STORTZ connections on the steamer caps on
hydrants. When you submit your plans, please submit a pdf file to the fire department.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, Sent a letter indicating the need for bicycle parking and on 146 street
ADA complian ramps.
Steve Borderet asked that since there is a 6 ft. path already in place is there still a requirement for
a 10 ft. path. David responded that the Thoroughfare Plan does require a 10 ft. plan however; it
may be possible to make a contribution to the City Thoroughfare Fund in lieu of rebuilding the
path.
END
9:25 a.m. Docket No. 07070005 DP /ADLS: Old Meridian Professional Village
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for 7 buildings on 6.25 acres.
The site is located at 12346 Old Meridian St. and is zoned OM /O Old Meridian
District, Office. Filed by Paul Reis of Bose McKinney Evans for ALTA Business
Communities, LLC.
Greg Snelling of Snelling Engineering presented for the petitioner. He was accompanied by
Andrew Tschopp of CSO Architects and Todd Riesor of Dublin Building Systems.
We have submitted an ADLS and will be following up with construction plans at a later date.
Nick Redden- Engineering We are still reviewing the plans and we will get our comments to
you as soon as we are able.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, sent a letter yesterday. We did have a
concern that the Old Meridian road project relocated the verdict drain and looks like there are
some trees that appear to be too close and we would like those to be moved. We are reviewing
the drainage calculations it appears that are complying with all the ordinances, but I will review to
make sure
Steve Borderet indicated that they are looking at a variance to be a little closer to the road with
the trees.
Angie Conn DOCS, Sent a review letter and has no further comments at this time
Scott Brewer DOCS, has not sent his review letter yet. Scott indicated that from the plans he
received he could tell where the easements were. A meeting will be set up to further discuss this
project.
David Lucus Hamilton County Highway, No comments.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, requests a full set of plans, and also an auto CAD file. She
asked if the building will be in stages. The petitioner indicated it would be. Shirley indicated a
service request should be made for the first building. Shawn South will be your contact.
There are old services there that will have to be removed. Please call the service number to have
the meters removed.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department asked if the petitioner will be using a sprinkler system
in any of the buildings. The petitioner indicated they will not. Chris indicated that when reviewing
the drawings he saw only 2 fire hydrants on the west end on the project. Will additional hydrants
be installed? The petitioner responded that Carmel Utilities is building a main and they have not
received the plans, although we assume they are building fire hydrants every 500 feet. Every
building should be within 250 ft. from a hydrant.
Chris indicated that they may need to meet to discuss hydrant locations. Chris informed the
petitioner that because the building is not sprinkled they will need to have a hydrant 400 ft. from
the most remote location of the building. Chris also clarified that when measuring a route, the 400
ft. must be measured using the route the fire department would use to get the building not a
straight line to the building.
The fire department also requests a CD /PDF file of the drawings. We also request Knox boxes in
any alarmed or sprinkled buildings.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, sent a letter. Please show the details showing the bicycle parking.
Please note that all the ramps are ADA compliant and connect the internal sidewalks as much as
possible and have a sidewalk connection on each side of the entrance.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comments at this time
END
9:35 a.m. Docket No. 07070006 DP /ADLS: Weston Park, Block A (L A Fitness)
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for 3 buildings on 10.14 acres.
The site is located southwest of 106th St. and Michigan Rd. and is zoned 1 -1 /Industrial
within the US 421 Overlay. Filed by John Turek of L A Fitness International, LLC.
John Turek presented for LA Fitness. He was accompanied by Mark Obergell of TLF Engineers
and Kristy Rexing of Architects Forum.
Mr. Turek reviewed the location and scope of the project. The LA Fitness building will have
about a 42,000 sq. ft. footprint, single story building with parking around it.
Nick Redden- Engineering this is outside of our jurisdiction.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, sent a letter. The Surveyor's office has
some concerns about the drainage calculations. You also need an application. We may have to
discuss some additional easements. He also requested to see some cross sections of the open
ditch and the parking lot butting up to it to see how that worked together.
Greg indicated he was aware of the emails between the petitioner and Bob Thomas. He
encouraged the petitioner to keep working with Mr. Thomas for resolution of the issues.
Angie Conn DOCS, has sent a comment letter and has no further comment at this time
Scott Brewer DOCS, had made some comments earlier to which you had responded, but I
have not had time to send additional comments. Scott originally sent his comments to Mark
Obergfell. Scott reviewed the Michigan Overlay which includes foundation plantings around the
buildings; your plan did not show any plantings at all. The petitioner indicated that his would be
part of the building plan submittal. Scott instructed the petitioner to note this on the plans. For
parking lot trees you are required to have 51 trees, it appears you have 36. This will need to
remedied. One of your species, the Hawthorne Bean, you have planted along the road, this
species does not take well to salt. So if the driveways, etc. are salted, these trees will not
survive. Scott will send a follow up letter outlining all of these concerns.
David Lucas, Hamilton County Highway Department, distributed a comment letter to the
petitioner. We are asking that landscaping, fences, etc. stay out of the right of way on 106
street. It appears that the improvements to 106 street and the entrance was installed during the
State project and if that is going to change with the entrance of the development, we may have
comments on that at a later time.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy out of our jurisdiction
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, it appears the building will be sprinkled. Chris
questioned, are you going to put the fire department connections where the water comes into the
building on the south side.
The petitioner indicated that this is what they would usually do, but were open to any suggestions.
Chris suggested that when the design plan is more complete, he could meet with the petitioner to
review locations. Chris also reiterated that Knox boxes and STORTZ caps are required.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, sent a comment letter asking that the petitioner make as many sidewalk
connections as possible. David indicated on a visual where these are needed.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, No comment at this time
END
9:45 a.m. Docket No. 07070007 DP Amend /ADLS: Weston Pointe Outlot 3
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a multi- tenant retail building.
The site is located at 11145 N Michigan Rd. and is zoned B -2 /Business within the US
421 Overlay. Filed by Darci Pellom of Civil Designs, LLP.
Darci Pellom presented. She reviewed the scope of project.
Nick Redden- Engineering, this is outside of our jurisdiction
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, sent a letter and outlet permit. We also
need drainage calculation.
Angie Conn DOCS, sent a review letter and has no additional comments at this time.
Scott Brewer DOCS sent an email last evening, need to look at the issue of the buffer yards.
Scott questioned if electrical lines are around the front and that has been planted he questioned
the species of plantings on the electrical line- Darci indicated that the plantings are a distance
from the lines and she feels there is no problem. Scott asked that Darci review the issues he
outlined in his email.
David Lucas, Hamilton County Highway, No comment
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, indicated that an application will be needed with address
numbers assigned. Shirley asked if a new transformer pad had been installed when the previous
buildings had been. Did they put the pad in for service to outlot 3 easement looks fine
Shirley also asked for an autocad file we need 5 feet in front of the meter that may not have
landscaping.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department please submit a CD /PDF file of your building plans.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, sent a letter. Make sure the bicycle parking is compliant and also to
make as many connections between sidewalks as possible. Discussion of the bike parking
location was discussed. David will look at the proposed location and let the petioner know if it is
acceptable David reviewed a visual and indicated where internal connections should be placed.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, indicated that variance requests should go out today. No
additional comments.
END
9:55 a.m. Docket No. 07070010 PP: Trillium
The applicant seeks primary plat approval for 57 residential lots on 32.447 acres.
The site is located at 2555 W 131 st St. and is zoned S -2 /Residence.
Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth Assoc, Inc.
Pete Adams of Adams and Marshall Homes presented. He was accompanied by
Mr. Adams reviewed the project. We hope to get started in the spring. These will be single story,
residential, detached, 2500 sq. ft., 2 car garage.
Nick Redden- Engineering, We are still reviewing the plans and we will get our comments to
you as soon as we are able.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office discussed drainage issues. He suggested
that the petitioner may be able to be work out these issues with Brenwick and Synder. No
primary plat concerns.
Angie Conn DOCS, sent a review letter, but has one additional comment regarding
connectivity to West Clay and she reviewed on a visual what the Department is looking for
regarding the road location.
Scott Brewer DOCS, asked how to contact Delphinium Design. Pete responded, please call
Stoeppelwerth office to get the info. Scott has not yet sent a review letter. Scott needs a tree
protection plan or details and there is a number of trees that need protection. He will have
comments on some species also.
David Lucus, Hamilton County Highway, no comment at this time.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, never to early to apply for service. This will be a 2 phase build
out. Please submit auto CAD file.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, There are no hydrants shown on plans, do you know
the location and distances please email to Chris.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, no comment
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comment at this time
END
10:05 a.m. Docket No. 07070013 SP: Cobblestone Commons Plat
The applicant seeks approval to plat 17 lots on 2.56 acres. The site is located at the
southwest corner of Smokey Row Rd. and 1 st Ave SW and is zoned PUD /Planned Unit
Development. Filed by Justin Moffett of Uptown Partners, LLC.
Justin Moffett of Uptown Partners presented. He was accompanied by his business partner
Jeff Hefton, Jim Shields of Wiehe Engineering. Justin reviewed the project. There have been
many, many changes since we were last at TAC. There now will be 17 lots on 2.56 acres. We
are still connecting to sanitary sewer at 1 St Avenue, water will come from the existing pipe on
Smokey Row. Storm water is back to the original proposal utilizing the drainage easement along
the back of the ridge to a proposed detention facility on a property south of that ridge. We will be
having a discussion with the Engineering Department and the Surveyor's Office. Based on
information, we feel we have the right to use this easement for our storm water drainage. We
may be doing some tweaking, but the overall conceptual layout is what we will propose.
Nick Redden- Engineering We are still reviewing the plans and we will get our comments to
you as soon as we are able.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, still reviewing the plans, will get a letter out
tomorrow.
Angie Conn DOCS, sent a review letter, no further comments at this time.
Scott Brewer DOCS, received an email the only thing he noted that had not been discussed
was on south at lot #1 is an existing tree, a maple, we talked about extending the curve past this
first parking space and saving the tree and these plans that has not been done.
Justin indicated that Uptown Partners will defer to their attorney. He indicated that the City
Council was very clear about parking; we need to make sure that this will not go back to City
Council. Scott would like to pursue this. He requested an engineered landscape plan.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department he indicated he had noticed grass pavers outline in the
plans and he also spoke about the break away bollards. He asked if this was for emergency
egress. Have you decided on the type of bollard? Justin did clarify that there will only be one
egress and that will be at the west entrance. Chris distributed his card and when bollard style is
determined, please give him a call. We will be having the H2O rated paver Chris indicated that
the fire truck weighs approximately 70,000 lbs., so make sure the pavers can handle this weight.
David Lucas, Hamilton County Highway Department, no comments at this time
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, asked if these were single family dwelling. She would like to
have an auto CAD file of the secondary site plan. Tried to look at existing poles on 136 street
and don't see any issue there. If we ever need to move the poles this will be an issue
Discussion on location of the poles was held.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, sent a letterjust recommending putting a sidewalk on both sides on
Second St. and continuing the sidewalk on the south side to lot 17. He also noted that before we
sign off on secondary plat, we will have to get approval from Parks Department for the trail head.
Justin indicated on a visual where the sidewalk would be crossing. Due to the tree preservation
plan can you put a connection on the N side of Second Street?
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comment at this time.
END
10:15 a.m. Docket No. 07070011 TAC: Wilson Office Plaza Building
The applicant seeks TAC approval for a previously approved building at the northwest
corner of the site. The site is located north at 937 Keystone Way and is zoned B-
8 /Business within the US 431 Overlay. Filed Steve Wilson of W W Properties, LLC.
Steve Wilson of W W Properties presented. He indicated that previously a restaurant was in
this location called Illusions, they left the complex and we now are a complete office complex.
We would now like to move forward with construction of the new building. The main floor will be
set up as an office, which I will occupy, it has 1543 sq. ft. with a two car garage, storage area.
Upstairs will be single apartment which will be about 1460 sq. ft.
Nick Redden- Engineering Please sent a set of plans.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, No comment
Angie Conn DOCS, No comment
Scott Brewer DOCS, distributed his card. He did not receive a copy of the recent plan
submittals, please submit a set plan.
David Lucas, Hamilton County Highway no comment.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, I was not here in 1996, and to the best of my knowledge all we
have available at this office is 3 phase power. Please make an application for service, we will
need addresses for each suite number. Also, primary feed to existing feed looks like it could go
directly underneath the new building, please be aware that my records show that it feeds from the
northwest side of the property and goes so this may be relocated.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, no plans received, once received I will get comments
back to you.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, no comment.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comment.
10:25 a.m. Docket No. 07070009 ADLS: Holiday Inn at Pro Med Ln
The applicant seeks design approval for a proposed full- service hotel.
The site is located at 136th Street and Pro Med Lane, and is zoned B6, within the US
31 /Meridian Street Overlay.
Filed by Dave Coots of Coots, Henke Wheeler for Midwest Hospitality Group, Inc.
Mike DeBoy of DeBoy Land Development Services presented in lieu of Dave Coots. He
reviewed the project. The hotel will have a full service restaurant,
It utilizes the existing detention facility location toward the south end of the property that was put
in place in the 1980's. It utilizes on the storm water quality end a mechanical structure, we do
have comments from Amanda Foley, and we are also using pervious pavers, brick pavers in part
of the area as well. We have submitted a revised landscape plan to Scott Brewer.
Nick Redden- Engineering, Nick indicated that Engineering had provided comments previously,
and asked has anything changed. The petitioner indicated that yes the site changed and they do
have his comment letter and are waiting to receive comments back from the client.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, Sent letter today and will wait for
comments.
Angie Conn DOCS, we have not done a review yet, we are still waiting for landscape, lighting
and more detailed architecture plans. Mike Deboy indicated that Angie has the most recent
current landscape plan. However the lighting and architecture detail is an issue we have with the
client. They are expected to provide the additional information needed.
Scott Brewer DOCS, requested to meet with the client, engineering and Deboy Land
Development. Mike indicated that this would be acceptable.
David Lucus, Hamilton County Highway, no comment.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy, no comment.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department requested a meeting to discuss issues. Gary Hoyt
had some issues with access on the east side of the building. Mike DeBoy indicated that he
believes that Justus Homes will be granting an easement to Midwest Hospitality for fire access
across their property. Chris indicated it would be best to set up a meeting in the next couple of
weeks to discuss the issue.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, sent a letter to Dave Coots, no additional comment.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comment.
END
10:35 a.m. Lubavitch of Indiana
The applicant seeks the following special use approval:
Docket No. 07070012 SU Chapter 5.02 Religious Uses in a Residential District
The site is located at 2640 West 96th Street and is zoned S1 /Residential.
Filed by E. Davis Coots of Coots Henke Wheeler, PC for Lubavitch of Indiana.
Dennis Lockwood presented for the petitioner. He was accompanied by Mark Swanson of
Swanson and Associates. Mr. Lockwood reviewed the project. We are seeking special
exception use for the site. It is zoned S1. The drawings are conceptual in nature and not as
detailed as the Committee may be accustomed This project did come through last year, and we
have made some modifications based on comments that were received last year. We did
conduct meetings with various County departments.
Nick Redden- Engineering, outside of our jurisdiction.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, sent a comment letter, not much information
available. There is a lot we need to see before this moves forward.
Angie Conn DOCS, no comment at this time.
Scott Brewer DOCS, I did receive landscape plans and they look good. However, I do not
have any utility information on the plans. I do need an engineered set of plans with utility
information on them. Scott asked about any plans on the property to the north. Mr. Lockwood
indicated that currently there are no plans for that property.
David Lucus, Hamilton County Highway distributed comment letter. You need a little bit of
work on the entrance geometry with the deceleration lane being lengthened and the deceleration
taper being shortened these are reversed. Cross sections for the interior street and
improvement along 96 street.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department, I reviewed the plans yesterday. I did not see any utility
site plans. Mr. Lockwood indicated that they do not have any plans at this time, we are still in the
conceptual stage. When plans are more detailed, we will need to have a meeting.
David Littlejohn -DOCS sent a letter regarding bicycle parking, and an 10 ft. asphalt path and all
sidewalks need to be ADA compliant and connecting all internal sidewalks.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, no comments at this time, but will be sending a comment
letter.
END
Docket No. 07070018 UV
801 Congressional Boulevard Midwest Academy
The applicant seeks the following use variance:
Appendix A Use Table Secondary School uses in the M3 District
The site is located at 801 Congressional Boulevard within the Carmel Science and Technology
Park and is zoned M3 /Industrial and Office Park.
Filed by Matt Skelton of Baker and Daniels, LLP for Technology Center Associates and Midwest
Academy.
Jesse Pohlman of Baker and Daniels presented for the petitioner. He was accompanied by
Jeremy Stephenson of REI.
Nick Redden- Engineering no comment.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, no comment
Angie Conn DOCS one question is about parking, please make sure you meet the parking
ordinance.
Scott Brewer DOCS, no comment.
Dave Lucas, Hamilton County Highway no comment.
Chris Ellison, Carmel Fire Department no comments at this time. We may have some after
plan review.
David Littlejohn -DOCS, no comments.
Christine Barton Holmes -DOCS, you will be receiving a copy of the Department report later
today, no further comments.
END