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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 12-17-03CARMEL CLAY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES December 17, 2003 REPRESENTING THE CITY OF CARMEL: Bill Akers, Carmel Clay Communications J im Blanchard, DOCS Scott Brewer, DOCS Urban Forester Angie Butler, Dept. of Community Services Steve Broermann, Hamilton Cnty Highwa John Dobosiewicz, DOCS Dick Hill, City Engineerin Greg Ho es, Hamilton County Surveyor's Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department Laurence Lilli DOCS Attachments: Andy Kern Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy Attachments: Teresa Magee John South, Hamilton County Soil Water Via e -mail: Andy Kern, Clay Township Regional Waste District Via e -mail: Teresa Magee, Panhandle Eastern Pipeline Co. Page 3. Page 4. Page 6. Page 8. Page 11 Page 12 Page 15 Page 17 Page 19 Freiburger- Mitchel Farms (Primary and Secondary Plats) Chateaux de Moulin (Primary Plat) Village of WestClay, Sec 9005 (Secondary Plat) Schaffer Subdivision (Primary Plat) Heather Knoll Replat (Primary Plat Replat) Carlson Corner (Minor) Subdivision (Primary Plat) Park Northwestern Lot 13A Starbucks (Development Plan Replat) Margaret Miller Living Trust (Rezone) Delta Faucet ADLS Amendment (Building Addition) TAC 12/17/03 1 Page 20. City Center Pedcore Office Building Phase II (Development Plan Amendment) Page 22. Woodland Golf Club, Sec. 4, lots 3,4 (Secondary Plat Replat) Page 23. Greyhound Commons, Phase II Abuelo's Restaurant (Development Plan) TAC 12/17/03 2 FREIBURGER MITCHEL FARMS (Primary and Secondary Plats) Filed by Allan Weihe at Weihe Engineers on behalf of J.R. Freiburger. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: J.R. Freiburger, JRF CONSTRUCTION.COM Dave Barns, WEIHE ENGINEERS Comes now Frieburger Mitchel Farms, Primary and Secondary Plats. The applicant seeks approval to plat 3 residential lots. The site is located at the southwest corner of 141st Street and Spring Mill Road. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence Very Low Intensity. HOYES: Sent letter. Does Lot One have a basement? Show Regulated Drain. No planting in Regulated Drain. HILL: Are you going to modify the existing drive? FREIBURGER: Yes. DOBOSIEWICZ: Will there be a single driveway cut? FREIBURGER: Yes. HILL: Is water connected presently? FREIBURGER Yes. HILL: Carmel Water will need Board of Works approval. DOBOSIEWICZ: Is there availability? HILL: Yes the fee is $1,010.00 an acre or $3,000.00 per family. FREIBURGER: Do we have to pay that now or when the house is built? HILL: When the house is built. DOBOSIEWICZ: Call Utilities on the Sanitary. FREIBURGER: I did. HILL: This is a Board of Works approval. SHUPPERD: No gas to that Lot but can get it there. FREIBURGER: Where? SHUPPERD: Lot 2. FREIBURGER: South side of 141 SHUPPERD: Yes. BREWER: Plan on keeping the trees? FREIBURGER: Yes. BREWER: I suggest you maintain the buffer around the Subdivision behind you. FREIBURGER: We are doing that. BLANCHARD: How many structures are out there? FREIBURGER: None. BLANCHARD: Well and septic? FREIBURGER: Connected to water. HOYT: No comments. AKERS: Lot One has an existing address. FREIBURGER: 580 West 141" Street, Lot 2 and 3? SOUTH: Basements are not recommended sub surface tiles for each lot. BUTLER: No additional. TAC 12/17/03 3 DOBOSIEWICZ: See the ten feet (10') asphalt path with the adjacent owner? Connect the asphalt path broken by the drive see asphalt between the path and the street pavement. BARNS: Concrete? DOBOSIEWICZ: No concrete. SOUTH: High water condition out there water filtration problem. KERN: The preliminary plans received by the District do not show any proposed sewers. Revised plans will need to be submitted to the District. Building permits should NOT be issued unless the District has issued connection permits. ...END... CHATEAUX DE MOULIN (Primary Plat) Filed by Joseph Calderon of Ice Miller for Campbell Development 2, LLC. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Joe Calderon, ICE MILLER DONODIO RYAN Scott Campbell, CAMPBELL DEVELOPMENT Lance E. Ferrell, BANNING ENGINEERING Mark Zukerman, MZA INCORPORATED Kim Colby, COLBY EQUIPEMENT Comes now Chateaux de Moulin, Primary Plat. The applicant seeks to plat a 6 -lot subdivision. The site is located west of 116th Street Spring Mill Road. The site is zoned S -2 /Residence. We have no zoning problems. The smallest lot is 1.04 acres. We have not rendered covenants and will have that in advance of the public hearing. We will meet all minimum requirements. The owners of the common areas have asked for consideration for private streets. We will work with the Highway Department for a gated community for the large estate -type homes. HOYES: Faxed a letter to you. This is a Regulated Drain Subdivision. You will need to meet those requirements. Contact down stream property owners to see if they are interested and provide us proof of that contact. We will need gate access to maintain drains. HILL: December 9, 2003 that right -of -way became the City of Carmel. DOBOSIEWICZ We need to see x -cell and d -cell and maybe a passing blister. Pull the improvements to the south. Get with a traffic engineer and have them present a recommendation. I would like to see the tapering lanes. HILL: You show no indication for a path. TAC 12/17/03 4 SHUPPERD: We have gas on the north side. Go ahead and contact J. Brigg to get on the waiting list. BREWER: I would like to see your tree preservation or open space plan. You will need to do buffer yard requirements. (Petitioner passes colored landscape rendering to Scott Brewer) DOBOSIEWICZ: FERRELL: DOBOSIEWICZ: FERRELL: DOBOSIEWICZ: BREWER: FERRELL: BLANCHARD: FERRELL: BLANCHARD: CALDERON: BLANCHARD: What is that structure in the front of the subdivision? A gatehouse. Provide more details on that wall and gatehouse as well as signage. You need a more detailed drawing? Yes. Are there two (2) gates? Yes. Any structures to be removed, wells or fuel tanks? No. One builder or more? Probably (2) two. No openings under the normal pool elevation and no openings below the 100 year -flood elevation. HOYT: I sent you a fax requesting a S.O.S type device for access. We request the S.O.S and Knox Switch Key. I will send you our turning radius. We will need to get a Ladder Truck back there. You may need to apply for a variance on the Cul -de -sac. We will need alot of room to get back out. AKERS: I sent names to County for approval. We will need access gate entry. We will need a code. I will get addresses out to you. SOUTH: Letter was sent. Construction plan will need to meet "Rule 5 I recommend limited soil disturbance on the site. Suggest you reconsider the location of the storm to Lot 5 and 6. Also limit woodland disturbance. Some way with pond, bring pond out of woodland area and make it more round than narrow. FERRELL: We are not finished with the pond. SOUTH: Maintain as a buffer and keep storm pipe there. FERRELL: We will walk that site. BROERMANN: 116 Street is now under City guidance. DOBOSIEWICZ: Add sidewalk to specs that is allowed in Thoroughfare Plan. BROERMANN: Twenty -eight feet (28') street? ZUKERMAN: We can meet your requirements. BROERMANN: We will inspect it. You will need a Variance from the Board of Commissioners for length. DOBOSIEWICZ: Do they need approval for the private street? TAC 12/17/03 5 BROERMANN: Yes, look to the City for advice. Call me and we will discuss it. DOBOSIEWICZ: I sent a letter to advise changes 28 feet back -to -back private ...END... VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY, Sec 9005 (Secondary Plat) Filed by Brandon Burke of The Schneider Corporation for Brenwick TND Communities, LLC. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Brandon Burke, SCHNEIDER CORP Kevin Kulik, BRENWICK Comes now Village of West Clay, Section 9005 Secondary Plat. The applicant seeks approval to plat 23 residential lots on 16 acres. The site is generally located at on the north side of 131 st Street Towne Road, 1 /2 mile east of Towne Rd. The site is zoned Planned Unit Development (PUD). Sanitary Sewers are being served by Clay Regional Waste and currently working. The Water Service is Carmel Utilities. HOYES: This will be a Regulated Subdivision. In 9006 you are clearing on the north side of Elliot Creek and on what you are proposing you will need clearing on the south side of Elliot Creek. Is that correct? TAC 12/17/03 6 sidewalk on one side. Do the Waiver. Regard to gatehouse a Variance of the setback mounding on Lot 1. Amenities in common area opposed to right -of -way. Cul -de -sac length one more Waiver. With issue to private streets look at those minutes from the Plan Commission about private streets like Treesdale Hamilton Place. Check out minutes from Copperwood concerning the gatehouse. I would suggest a separated plat of this showing flagpoles for the Lots. HOYT: How close is the right -of -way? FERRELL: 1000 feet to the centerline of Springmill. DOBOSIEWICZ: Do you pull any utilities? FERRELL: Let's get together on that. KERN: The preliminary plans received by the District do not include the plan and profile of the proposed sanitary sewers. Revised plans will need to be submitted to the District and its consulting engineer, CTE Engineers. An IDEM permit will be required and the submittal packet should be sent to the District for review. The District will submit the project to IDEM for permit approval. A preconstruction meeting will need to be held before the construction of the proposed sanitary sewers. Building permits should NOT be issued unless the District has issued connection permits. ...END... VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY, Sec 9005 (Secondary Plat) Filed by Brandon Burke of The Schneider Corporation for Brenwick TND Communities, LLC. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Brandon Burke, SCHNEIDER CORP Kevin Kulik, BRENWICK Comes now Village of West Clay, Section 9005 Secondary Plat. The applicant seeks approval to plat 23 residential lots on 16 acres. The site is generally located at on the north side of 131 st Street Towne Road, 1 /2 mile east of Towne Rd. The site is zoned Planned Unit Development (PUD). Sanitary Sewers are being served by Clay Regional Waste and currently working. The Water Service is Carmel Utilities. HOYES: This will be a Regulated Subdivision. In 9006 you are clearing on the north side of Elliot Creek and on what you are proposing you will need clearing on the south side of Elliot Creek. Is that correct? TAC 12/17/03 6 BURKE: I do not believe we have done anything outside the Surveyor's request. HOYTES: Do you control the pipes (inaudible) or is that still a private residence? BURKE: Private. HOYES: We are trying to regulate Elliot Creek all the way up as the development progresses. BURKE: We will mark that area as a Tree Preservation Zone. HOYES: Are you going to do a study on Elliot Creek at some point? BURKE: Based on the upstream watershed it does not warrant a full -blown study. HOYES: We need to do that. DOBOSIEWICZ: Did they and Towne Point get prior easements to cross portions of this undeveloped site of Elliot Creek? HOYES: Yes. HILL: I faxed comments. I have comments on the twenty -eight feet (28') street? Is that (interruption)? BROERMANN: I can fax you about 168 Variances approved. BURKE: We should sit down and run through this. HILL: Special street signs? DOBOSIEWICZ: Yes. Did you ask for digital "as builts HILL: No. DOBOSIEWICZ: Can we add that to the list to convey to Engineering on Laser Fiche? SHUPPERD: Jerry Brigg will be your contact person and we will just come out of Section 9006b and use standard procedure. BREWER: No plans. BURKE: We will have "Parks" follow up with you. BLANCHARD: When the committee meets for the Architectural Review that you let the Builders know on Lots 62 -66, and Lots 136 -139 that there are "no openings permitted below the minimum flood protection grade and on Lots 124 -133 no openings permitted below the 100 year elevation". HOYT: I faxed you letter dated the December 14, 2003. A couple of questions on the cul -de -sacs approaching Lots 90004 and 07 to provide us a turn around temporarily until the streets pan -out. Is there an amenity in this section? BURKE: No. HOYTE: Gated? BURKE: No. AKERS: Halifax Street is going to continue on to meet Fairmount. You need to change that. I sent your office an address list of this. SOUTH: I owe you a comment letter. I will pass you the new requirements for "Rule 5 You will have to upgrade and make those changes. BROERMANN: No comments. DOBOSIEWICZ: I would like to see that temporary cul -de -sac that G. Hoyt mentioned. Our office needs to know the number of Lots relative TAC 12/17/03 7 to (inaudible) and Brenwick commitments for roadway. Likewise in the future all (inaudible) to the Board of Public Works and the County Commissioners. KERN: The District's consulting engineer has distributed a comment letter regarding this project. Revised plans need to be submitted to CTE Engineers and the District. An IDEM permit will be required and the submittal packet should be sent to the District for review. The District will submit the project to IDEM for permit approval. A preconstruction meeting will need to be held before the construction of the proposed sanitary sewers. Building permits should NOT be issued unless the District has issued connection permits. ...END... SCHAFFER SUBDIVISION (Primary Plat) Filed by Insight Engineering, Inc. for Pittman Partners. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Steve Pittman, PITTMAN PARTNERS Neal Smith, PITTMAN PARTNERS Doug Elmore, PLATINUM PROPERTIES Don Fisher, INSIGHT ENGINEERING Comes now Schaffer Subdivision Primary Plat. The applicant seeks to plat a 54 -lot subdivision on 41.352 acres. The site is located at the northwest corner of West Road and west 131 Street. This is property is not yet named but going under the Schaffer Property. It is now in Carmel City limits. Right -of -way has been acquired and the Road has been approved. It ties into Boone County. Our west property line is the Boone County line next to the neighborhood known as Austin Oaks. We are proposing a custom neighborhood utilizing the Residential Open Space Ordinance (ROSO). The typical lot size will be 100 x 160. Our goal is to break ground in the spring. HOYES: I faxed a letter on December 12, 2003. This is going to be a Regulated Drain Subdivision. Build a berm and get a Variance from the Drainage Board. I did get a hold of Boone County it does not appear that they regulate Little Eagle Creek. We may carry regs to Little Eagle Creek. Will there be planned clearing in the wooded area? We have drainage concerns along the south side of 131 Street. HILL: We will get you our comments laying out our standard procedures. DOBOSIEWICZ: The County got this road into good shape and they pulled all the improvements to the north side. The County acquired in excess of the Thoroughfare right -of -way on the north side to provide improvements. Did you participate in any of that? PITTMAN: No but we are hoping with this subdivision it will help. TAC 12/17/03 8 SHUPPERD: We have gas on north side. BREWER: The Buffer Requirements need to get tied down. DOBOSIEWICZ: That needs to happen before the Plan Commission meets. BLANCHARD: Any structures? PITTMAN: Yes an old house and barn. BLANCHARD: Any abandoned wells, septic or fuel tanks? PITTMAN: Yes. BLANCHARD: You will need demo permits on file. Will this be open to one builder and what is the range? PITTMAN: No and the range is $500 -750. BLANCHARD: Will there be a model home? PITTMAN: Not anticipating one. HOYT: Will this be a gated community? PITTMAN: The intensions are not to make it private. HOYT: As I measured this. This is extremely long. I measured it and it is almost a mile. DOBOSIEWICZ: On that we have asked that they push the entrance to the east to reduce that cul -de -sac length which is labeled (inaudible) drive to make that public and also to take that entrance street due north and intersect it with the northern most loop street. HOYT: Is there an amity building? PITTMAN: No. AKERS: Need subdivision name and pick four (4) more street names. SOUTH: I have some concerns about the soil condition, the size of pond and watershed draining to it, whether it is sufficient enough. Existing wells and septics need to be abandoned properly. The northerly part of the site has a decent roll to it. Hope you can structure drainage and Lot to keep from moving earth to maintain the roll and existing soil conditions. I will pass down the new construction requirements for "Rule 5 BROERMANN: No comments. DOBOSIEWICZ: Can you detain on Lot 37 opposed to doing the work in the ravine? Perhaps put in a detention pond on Lot 37 and may not have to do all that clearing. I would rather see a detention pond on Lot 37 then natural drainage feature in the woods. SOUTH: I have seen where they have used natural sites and it has worked out very well as far as depending on the growth of the trees and if they are careful with their traffic patterns. DOBOSIEWICZ: It gets complicated. Although I prefer something more natural when you talk about State Safety Ledger it is not going to be natural any more. It becomes a pond in the woods. SOUTH: I will agree with you there. TAC 12/17/03 9 DOBOSIEWICZ: Additional comments regard to our letter. Five (5) feet sidewalks, ten (10) feet asphalt multi -use path. We need to label those existing street right -of -ways 50 feet half is required at a minimum along 131 Street. We are going to ask for additional right -of -way at the intersection ten (10) feet on either side. We talk about Lots 1, 21 54 by the Ordinance if they are not separated by open space or common area between West Road the houses need to be oriented to West Road. Scott Brewer will need to make that review prior to the Plan Commission meeting. If that does not happen before the meeting or the packet distribution we will recommend tabling of the item until February Public Hearing. The Roadway frontage pursuant to our Platting Requirement Specification along West Road while it is less than 131 spec line. 131 two twelve feet (12') lanes with curb cut pursuant to the County's made along that frontage. I do not know that we will ask for additional permits today along that frontage but your engineer will have to calculate the cost of producing the Thoroughfare Plan improvement which is two twelve feet (12') lanes with curb and gutter and offset the difference between what is existing and what that future improvement would be and make that in a way of a commitment for improvements either offsite or negotiate with the City Engineer or Department with this intersection here at West Road and 131 Street. Has this been striped yet? BROERMANN: Yes. DOBOSIEWICZ: One more thing about Roadway is x -cell and d -cell at a minimum on the entrance on 131 Street pulling those improvements to the north side. Make those revisions and get those back to us as soon as possible. PITTMAN: Are we working with you on water? HILL: Yes. KERN: The preliminary plans received by the District do not include the plan and profile of the proposed sanitary sewers. Revised plans will need to be submitted to the District and its consulting engineer, CTE Engineers. An IDEM permit will be required and the submittal packet should be sent to the District for review. The District will submit the project to IDEM for permit approval. A preconstruction meeting will need to be held before the construction of the proposed sanitary sewers. Building permits should NOT be issued unless the District has issued connection permits. ...END... TAC 12/17/03 10 Heather Knoll Replat (Primary Plat Replat) Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth Associates for Pittman Partners. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Steve Pittman, PITTMAN PARTNERS Neal Smith, PITTMAN PARTNERS Doug Elmore, PLATINUM PROPERTIES Don Fisher, INSIGHT ENGINEERING Comes now Heather Knoll Replat. The applicant seeks to add real estate to and Replat a 79 -lot subdivision on 39.5 acres. The site is located on the north side of 141 Street, one- half mile west of Towne Road. The site is zoned S -1 /Residence -Very Low Density. They are adding a seven (7) acre site, which gives us a connection off 146 Street. Carmel wants to get a road all the way up to 146 Street and we were encouraged to acquire these seven (7) acres, which we now have. We have an approved Primary Plat on this property Heather Knoll and wanting to amend it. Lot sizes 80' x 140'. The only change from the initial Primary Plat is looking for a variance on density. In order to build that road through we need the density to make it happen. HOYES: No comment. PITTMAN: What are you requiring to replat? HOYES: (inaudible) to replace the twelve -inch (12 drain. HILL: You are now in the City of Carmel. SHUPPERD: We are in the process of getting gas to the Ridge of Hayden Run so there will be gas out front. DOBOSIEWICZ: D. Hill can I get a letter from you regarding the Primary Plat and the Departments position on the importance of this Section connecting up. I want the Plan Commission to have the rational behind our support for Waiver on this request. Which will make us one -step closer to having a connection all the way down from the Middle School at 126 Street to 146 Street. BREWER: I think there will be some revisions to the Open Space Plan and in the landscape plans. BLANCHARD: No comments. HOYT: Will there be an amity building? OLMSTEAD: No. AKERS: I will need six (6) street names. Are the stub streets going for future development? PITMAN: Yes. SOUTH: Soils issues again. You have poor conditions. I recommend relocating home sites or extensive soil borings. I will pass to you the new requirements under "Rule 5" of construction plans. BROERMANN: Not a lot of comments on Primary Plan other than you need a permit from our office for the connection to 146 Street. DOBOSIEWICZ: 85 feet half? TAC 12/17/03 11 BROERMANN: I do not know. I will have to look at the plan in our office. We ...END... Carlson Corner (Minor) Subdivision (Primary Plat) Filed by Craig Carlson of The 4C Group REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Chris Badger, Craig Carlson, THE 4C GROUP Comes now Carlson Corner Minor Subdivision, Primary Plat. The applicant seeks to plat a 4 -lot subdivision. The site is located at the SE corner 141 st St/Towne Rd. The site is zoned S -I /Residence Estate. We have four (4) Lots. They range roughly at 1.5 acres. The Petitioner built his house on Lot -one, which is 3.96 acres. We are getting sewer from the east and bringing to the back of Lot -three and extending it to Lot -two. The water will come across 141 and be brought down between Lots three and four. Access at this time is going to be per -Lot and approved by the County. TAC 12/17/03 12 have a route specific for 146 Street. DOBOSIEWICZ: Do you want to see improvements to the north for a passing blister? BROERMANN: I do not know. DOBOSIEWICZ: If right -of -way is needed from the adjacent property owner or across the street for a passing blister Centex (inaudible) other approvals for road improvements for the purpose of acquiring right -of -way. Whether that is for reimbursement right -of -way or if you cannot come to terms (inaudible) we will set everything up with the County Commissioners. They can decide if they want to condemn right -of -way and if they do not it will not be made. I would have this landscaping issue resolved well before the Plan Commission meeting. The other comment is that you connect via path through your common area number "A" next to pond 2. A pathway that would extend from 146 Street down behind the Lots along pond 2 down to between Lots 42 46 and swinging 46 over to make it connect at the intersections. That could be a six feet (6') asphalt path in the common area. I would like to see is a pathway to this north side that would stub at the property line and provide an easement between these two lots that connect up so we get a circuit made for the use by the residents. OLMSTEAD: Then can we waive the sidewalk? DOBOSIEWICZ: Yes, go with either one. KERN: The District has not received any plans for this proposal. Building permits should NOT be issued unless the District has issued connection permits. ...END... Carlson Corner (Minor) Subdivision (Primary Plat) Filed by Craig Carlson of The 4C Group REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Chris Badger, Craig Carlson, THE 4C GROUP Comes now Carlson Corner Minor Subdivision, Primary Plat. The applicant seeks to plat a 4 -lot subdivision. The site is located at the SE corner 141 st St/Towne Rd. The site is zoned S -I /Residence Estate. We have four (4) Lots. They range roughly at 1.5 acres. The Petitioner built his house on Lot -one, which is 3.96 acres. We are getting sewer from the east and bringing to the back of Lot -three and extending it to Lot -two. The water will come across 141 and be brought down between Lots three and four. Access at this time is going to be per -Lot and approved by the County. TAC 12/17/03 12 HOYES: Hamilton County Drainage Board in the past has put something in affect with the Stultz- Almond that any development in the area will require the drainage be constructed. This drain does cross the south side of you property and you will be required to be reconstructed. Get with us on the upsizing of that pipe. It is currently a twelve inch (12') tile and will need a (inaudible). BADGER: We need to replace between our right -of -ways? HOYES: Yes. BADGER: Can you get us a current location map? HOYES: Yes. BADGER: Is there a way we can just contribute to the fund for replacing it? HOYES: Yes. HILL: No plans. This is in the City of Carmel. SHUPPERD: Your contact is Jerry Brigg. Once you start moving dirt you will want to get on the list. BADGER: It looks like we can feed each Lot from existing utilities. SHUPPERD: You have utilities on the north side and across the street going downtown. BREWER: No plans. There will be buffering requirements and tree preservation details. I need to see that in the plans. DOBOSIEWICZ: What is the buffer "A BREWER: Yes. DOBOSIEWICZ: You will want to pull the Landscape Buffer Requirements, Chapter 26.4 Show the landscape that you offer and then tie that in to commitments to each Lot. BLANCHARD: No plans. Are there any existing structures? BADGER: There is an existing barn in the backyard of Lot -one. BLANCHARD: Abandoned wells or fuel tank? CARLSON: Yes, but they will remain. HOYT: No plans. Is there water that comes down Towne Road? DOBOSIEWICZ: Yes at 141 Street. HOYT: I need hydrant locations send me a set of utility plans. AKERS: No updated plans. I need a set of updated plans that show the other lots. Most likely Lots 2, 3 and 4 will address off Towne Road. BUTLER: I sent a review letter. SOUTH: No plans. I recommend all Lots should have drainage access, sump pumps and the like. So there can be an access tile or pipe to Stulz Almond. BADGER: We talked about a side yard and rear yard along Lots 2, 3 4. Then tying it into the Legal HOYES: We do not allow blind taps. You will need a manhole. BADGER: Okay. TAC 12/17/03 13 SOUTH: A 4 -Lot subdivision is considered reduced requirements under "Rule 5 Post construction storm water requirements you do not have to follow for this size plan. BADGER: The erosion control typical for each home? SOUTH: Yes. BROERMANN: No comments. DOBOSIEWICZ: Our recommendation is for no more than two cuts into this site and one that could serve Lots 1 and 2. A driveway access that can split off and combined that for Lots 3 and 4. With one driveway cut on 141 Street and one on Towne Road. Pursuant to our adoption of the site we need a seventy -five (75') feet half right -of -way along Towne Road and a fifty feet (50') that is required along 141 Street. The fifty feet (50') corner cut at the intersection of Towne and 141 sl Street I believe will be a roundabout. With that in mind you may want to consider something in excess of forty feet (40'). CARLSON: The way the houses are set now coming all the way down Towne Road and coming around 141 match those house setbacks which are almost two hundred feet? DOBOSIEWICZ: If they do not have right -of -way dedication then you are probably at one hundred feet. CARSON: We want all the house setbacks to match the existing house. DOBOSIEWICZ: You might want to record that. I would like to see you enter into an agreement with the City to put money in Escrow or commit "x" dollars for the future. So we do not duplicate efforts during the improvements to Towne Road. The section along 141 Street is one we would want to see you make. The PSI indicator right -of- way along 141 Street and the driveway cut permit. When you develop Lot -1 we would like to see that connect to Westwood Estates. It is a twenty to thirty (20 -30) feet section of PSI ground. BADGER: When I went through the Thoroughfare Plan. It said to sixty feet (60'). We have increased it. DOBOSIEWICZ: Our Thoroughfare Plan calls out fifty feet (50') half. The County's call out seventy -five feet (75') and within 500 feet of the intersection. BADGER: You showed a wedge at the top. How far back? DOBOSIEWICZ: A fifty feet (50') corner. BADGER: We would put in at seventy -five feet (75') and then come back fifty feet (50'). BROERMAN: No the two right -of -way lines intersect fifty feet (50') each way. DOBOSIEWICZ: I would get a good sense of that issue with the Surveyor's office. KERN: The District has not received any plans for this proposal. Building permits should NOT be issued unless the District has issued connection permits. ...END... TAC 12/17/03 14 Park Northwestern Lot 13A Starbucks (Development Plan Replat) Filed by Trent Newport of Crossroad Engineers REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Trent Newport, CROSSROAD ENGINEERS George Small, DESIGN POINT Comes now Park Northwestern, Lot 13A, Starbucks. The applicant seeks to replat parts of lots 12 13 of Park Northwestern to create one lot and to construct a new commercial building. Replat of those two lots. This is located on the southwest corner of Northwestern Drive. With this parcel comes an ingress /egress easement. Drainage is through the Legal Drain. We show the Drainage and Pipeline easements. We want to replat these lots to make them one lot. Supplying plans for Starbucks and another tenant. Starbucks will be in the south end of the building with plans for a bank on the north end. DOBOSIEWICZ: Will you be able to meet the required parking spaces? NEWPORT: We think we have room but cannot yet tell. HOYES: Legal drain is (inaudible) drainage calcs? NEWPORT: Off a current survey for this project. HOYES: Need revised Drainage calcs (inaudible) hour storm. NEWPORT: We need to submit that the orifice is too small. It is likely to plug. HOYES: We can grant that change. HILL: No comment. SHUPPERD: We have gas there on Michigan and Northwestern Drive. Call in and get on the schedule for new service. We will probably come off Northwestern Drive with a double meter set. If the third one comes about we can add another meter. BREWER: You will need to add more landscaping in accordance with Section 26.4 and the US 421 Overlay Buffer Requirements. BREWER: It does not appear you have anything on the west and north sides. You will have requirements for that against the right -of -way. DOBOSIEWICZ: We do have any issue with the pipeline on the north side. We will need to find a way to offset that. BLANCHARD: Will there be a construction trailer? SMALL: Yes. BLANCHARD: You will need to file for a Temporary Use application. Then each required accessible means to egress shall be continuous to public way. All building exits shall be illuminated at all times the building space is occupied. Before scheduling a presubmittal meeting in our office with G. Stahl and building permits issued a copy of the requirements and commercial permitting procedures must be filled out, signed off and approved. Once that is accomplished permits will be complete within 10 days. HOYT: Just confirming your letter. The building will not be sprinkled. It is twenty -two feet (22') high, no basements. You will install a Knox TAC 12/17/03 15 Box on the building. The Fire Department does not have a problem with down sizing the back drive. As long as you do not go any more than twenty -four feet (24') because of the turning radius of the Ladder Truck. Is the canopy for both? NEWPORT: Both yes, your radius will be okay. DOBOSIEWICZ: Pull that curb on the south side NEWPORT: Is five (5) on setbacks for the parking both rear and side? DOBOSIEWICZ: Yes. NEWPORT: I will make a note that face -to -face curb no less than twenty -two (22). AKERS: I gave you the addresses but we have not discussed suite numbers. Starbucks would be 100 and the bank 110 and if you add another place 120 and so on. BUTLER: No comments. SOUTH: I owe you a review letter. Because you got your plan in on the 26 so you fall under the old Rule Five Regulations. You still need to file a NOI and an Erosion Control Plan. I will pass down the new requirements. Do you show anything on your plan of the invert elevation of that twin culvert pipe in front of your site? I was trying to match that up with your detention storage facility. NEWPORT: I will show that. It is higher than that invert. BROERMANN: Nothing to add. Has INDOT acquired all the necessary right -of- way they need for this parcel for US 421? NEWPORT: We have ordered plans and are picking those up this afternoon but yes. DOBOSIEWICZ: S. Broermann would there be any need for additional corner cut at the corner of Northwestern Drive and US 421? BROERMANN: Not without a signal. DOBOSIEWICZ: We have asked for several things in our review letter including installing the State Plans on your plans. I need to see pedestrian connection between that ten feet (10') path come across the greenbelt area and connect up (inaudible) and the sidewalk along Northwestern Drive five feet (5') concrete and the right -of -way across Northwestern Drive and your property frontage northwest. NEWPORT: Is that typical for an industrial park? DOBOSIEWICZ: Yes. NEWPORT: Is this to be placed anywhere or in the right -of -way? BROERMANN: Typically the sidewalk is at the back edge off the right -of -way. NEWPORT: Concrete or asphalt? DOBOSIEWICZ: Asphalt finish. Stripe it across your driveway. NEWPORT: Five feet (5') width on both the walks? DOBOSIEWICZ: Yes. In the greenbelt when you access the Lot to the south provide a radius there. You will need to provide a curb and radius all the way up to where the State makes its improvements. TAC 12/17/03 16 NEWPORT: The building setbacks on the Plat Review are they fifteen (15) and twenty (20)? DOBOSIEWICZ: Just on the building it is thirty (30). NEWPORT: What is our rear and side yard? DOBOSIEWICZ: (marking on plan) NEWPORT: The landscape strip here is still five (5)? DOBOSIEWICZ: Still five (5). MAGEE: Letter sent. KERN: The District's Project Specialist will distribute a comment letter regarding this project. Revised plans need to be submitted. Building permits should NOT be issued unless the District has issued connection permits. ...END... Margaret Miller Living Trust (Rezone) Filed by David Warshauer for Margaret Miller Living Trust REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: David Warshauer, BARNES THORNBURG Jerry Susan Alexander, REALTY GROUP Bob Duster, SCHNEIDER CORPORATION Comes now Margaret Miller Living Trust, Rezone. The applicant seeks to rezone a parcel form S -1 Residence to B -3 US 421 Overlay Zone. The site is located at 1411 North Michigan Road. Looking to convert existing residence to a Real Estate office, parking lot with a revised entry drive. HOYES: HILL: SHUPPERD: ALEXANDER: BREWER: ALEXANDER: DOBOSIEWICZ: BLANCHARD: ALEXANDER: HOYT: AKERS: BUTLER: SOUTH: DOSTER: No issue with Rezone. No comments. No comments. Does the existing structure have gas? Yes. No plans. I need a set of plans. Are you making changes to landscaping? Our intent is not to change the landscaping but will follow your guidelines. This will come back through TAC. ADA ramp? Yes. No comments. No comments. I sent a review letter to you. No further comments. I need a set of plans. Is the site over one (1) acre? Yes. TAC 12/17/03 17 SOUTH: According to the rules any commercial Lot over one (1) acre is considered one (1) acre disturbed. They have some minimum definitions they go by but not necessarily the actual disturbed area. DOSTER: Basically, we are paving a gravel Lot. DOBOSIEWICZ: We will see construction plans come back through TAC. SOUTH: I will send down a copy of the new Rule Five Requirements and N.O.I. and N.O.T. that apply. BROERMANN: No objections to the Rezone. Do you have frontage? WARSHUAER: No. DOBOSIEWICZ: Has the State required any additional right -of -way frontage? DOSTER: It has been put on hold and the plans are out of date. They plan to come back to reschedule and update the plans. There is a right -of- way dedication off the front. DOBOSIEWICZ: We do not want the State to come back and acquire additional need for right -of -way for some type of improvement. We need to find out what the future need for right -of -way will be. ALEXANDER: The State did recently moved transmission poles and staked off the right -of -way. That happened recently but we will verify. DOBOSIEWICZ: Along with that you will need a commercial driveway cut approval through the State. Through the Rezone process per any TAC issues and the Rezoned approval you will come back through for necessary variances or other submittals. WARSHAUER: Can we file for ADLS? DOBOSIEWICZ: Yes KERN: The preliminary plans received by the District do not include the plan and profile of the proposed sanitary sewers. Revised plans will need to be submitted to the District and its consulting engineer, CTE Engineers. An IDEM permit will be required and the submittal packet should be sent to the District for review. The District will submit the project to IDEM for permit approval. A preconstruction meeting will need to be held before the construction of the proposed sanitary sewers. Building permits should NOT be issued unless the District has issued connection permits. ...END... TAC 12/17/03 18 Delta Faucet ADLS Amendment (Building Addition) Filed by Michael Conley, AIA of Architura Corp for the Delta Faucet Co REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Michael Conly, AIA Comes now Delta Faucet, ADLS Amendment building addition. The applicant seeks approval of a building addition. The site is located at the southeast corner of E. 11 Ith St US 31, and the site is zoned B -5 /Business within the US 31 Overlay Zone. This project is a small addition to the east of the entrance of the building and renovation to the west side of the building to change the appearance of the building as well as some additional parking to comply with requirement ratio. HOYES: I need plans. There is a Regulated Drain in the area. Need Drainage study on the parking lot and drainage permits issued? HILL: Do you have any revise drainage calcs? CONLY: HILL: CONLY: SHUPPERD: No. It appears there is a building encroaching into the easement? No, it is at the edge and is a maintenance building. CONLY: BREWER: DOBOSIEWICZ: CONLY: DOBOSIEWICZ: These two areas will not affect the meter sets are you adding more equipment? No. General species notes and landscape notes I can get you a letter. You are adding parking places? Yes. You need to get an engineer to draw up a landscape plan and submit it to us for our review. You will need to distribute that prior to TAC. BLANCHARD: What are the total square feet? CONLY: 2,800 square feet. BLANCHARD: And is that interior? CONLY: That is handled under a different contract that is not our project. BLANCHARD: Will employees enter through the main entrance? CONLY: No, from the south entrance. BLANCHARD: Will there be a construction trailer? CONLY: Yes and a crane at the jobsite. The crane will be at the front entrance. BLANCHARD: Before scheduling a presubmittal meeting in our office with Gayle Stahl and building permits issued a copy of the requirements and commercial permitting procedures must be filled out, signed off and approved. Once that is accomplished permits will be complete within 10 days. HOYT: No comments. AKERS: No comments. BUTLER: No comments. SOUTH: I will get you a letter. Sending you changes to Rule Five Requirements. TAC 12/17/03 19 BROERMANN: No comments. DOBOSIEWICZ: Coordinate with Scott Brewer for the revised parking area landscape plan so you can complete your distribution. KERN: In reviewing the plans, it appears that the addition does not affect the sanitary sewers; therefore, the District has no comments on this project. ...END... City Center Pedcore Office Building Phase II (Development Plan Amendment) Filed by Bob Olson for Pedcore. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Bob Olson, CSD ARCHITECTS Comes now City Center Pedcore Office Building Phase II, Development Plan Amendment. The applicant seeks approval to construct an office building. The site is located at the southwest corner of City Center Drive and 3 rd Avenue SW. This is a CRC project. The packets are preliminary in nature because the commitment of the CRC to meet the deadline to submit the plans has passed. I will assure you the civil engineering plan and comments will be sent to you. HOYES OLSON HOYES HILL: SHUPPERD: OLSON: BREWER: BLANCHARD OLSON: BLANCHARD HOYT: OLSON All the additional run off will go into the underground storage? Yes. We will need a drainage report and an outlet permit. I sent you a letter. You will need to contact the Board of Works for sewer and water permits. We will bring gas up to Phase I and try to get it to Phase IL Do you know the meter placement? On the backside. I need landscape plans. I would like a set of construction plans as soon as possible. Will there be a construction trailer? Yes. Before scheduling a presubmittal meeting in our office with Gayle Stahl and building permits issued a copy of the requirements and commercial permitting procedures must be filled out, signed off and approved. Once that is accomplished permits will be complete within 10 days. I need to meet with you after the Holidays. We need to meet about hydrant issues. Any idea when Phase III is going in. Is it bigger than Phase II? Same size as Phase II. TAC 12/17/03 20 HOYT: That passing blister off City Center is that a new structure? OLSON: Existing structure that was back in the grass behind the sidewalk. I popped the lid off, put an inlet grade on it and lowered it to use it as an inlet. HOYT: Are we losing any lanes on City Center Drive? OLSON: No. BREWER: The curb line will change in the median? OLSON: Yes. BREWER: Do you know when? OLSON: We submitted the plans in mid November and received zero comments. We went back to the CRC and decided to add the Memorial site as well as 2 restrooms. Looking to bid in February OLSON: 2004. BREWER: We will have comments on moving trees. AKERS: Multi tenants. OLSON: One, the developer. BUTLER: No additional comments. SOUTH: No comments. I will wait for construction plans. I will pass down the new Rule 5 for construction. BROERMANN: No comments. LILLIG: On the south side of the building I noticed the arrangement has changed. There use to be a drop off these go down to the (interruption) OLSON: Yes they changed it. LILLIG: I am concerned about the traffic arrangement. The traffic has to maneuver around the curb cut cross over coming in verses the traffic coming out and across. On the construction plans will there be striping details? OLSON: Not sure. LILLIG: As far as the rest of the site the Department will defer comments until we see construction plans. On the architectural elevations the clock seemed odd to me. The clock is set directly into the brick. I would suggest that you consider a roll lock around it to hide the tin and maybe do the same treatment to light on the third floor. The garage doors on the south side will they be metal overhead? OLSON: Metal. LILLIG: What are the timetables for these bids? OLSON: February, March with construction in March or April. LILLIG: Just the building? OLSON: Yes. ...END... TAC 12/17/03 21 Woodland Golf Club, Sec. 4, lots 3,4 (Secondary Plat Replat) Filed by Mary Beth Gadus REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Mary Beth Gadus, PETITIONER Garrick Walton, CDG CONSULTING Stacy Anderson, CDG CONSULTING Comes now Woodland Golf Club, Section 4, Lot 3 4, Secondary Plat Replat. The applicant seeks to move a property line between 2 residential Lots. The site is located at 1800 East 110 Street. HOYES: Sent you a review letter no objections to the Replat. HILL: No comments. SHUPPERD: No comments. BREWER: No comments. BLANCHARD: No comments. HOYT: No comments. AKERS: No comments. BUTLER: I xeroxed a copy of an existing Replat for you and I tried to call Stacy Anderson this morning. According to the Covenants no Variance is needed. SOUTH: No comments. BROERMANN: I sent you a letter to show what is needed in the signature block to the Board of Commissioners. DOBOSIEWICZ: Is this serviced by Water and Sewer? WALTON: Both. DOBOSIEWICZ: You may have issue with the Utility Department directly. Our Department has no concerns. Once you make the corrections to comments get us a Mylar, Paper Copy and Signed Plat. We will route you through the County Commissions so once you (inaudible) WALTON: Is that a meeting? DOBOSIEWICZ: Yes. BROERMANN: I included a packet of information on what it takes it get through the County. DOBOSIEWICZ: Is the new home you are putting on one of the 2 Lots does that cross any existing property lines? WALTER: No. DOBOSIEWICZ: But it crosses the front setback so we will need the Recorded Plat done before you can commence with construction. ...END... TAC 12/17/03 22 Greyhound Commons, Phase II Abuelo's Restaurant (Development Plan) Filed by Paul G. Reis of Drewry Simmons, Pitts Vornehm for Kite Greyhound, LLC. REPRESENTING THE PETITIONERS: Eric Strickland, KITE Blaine Paul, Comes now Greyhound Commons, Phase II Abuelo's Restaurant Development Plan. The applicant seeks approval to construct a restaurant. The site is zoned PUD. The site is located at the southwest corner of Greyhound Pass and 146 Street. We are proposing four (4) Restaurants in this area. Right now you are looking at the entire Development Plan with the first to be constructed Abuelo's at the southwest corner of the site. The tension is being utilized in the ponds just south of the Lowe's parking lot. We have done calcs and have found no adverse impacts by this project. We are in a Planned Unit Development (PUD) and our landscaping is in compliance with the PUD. We are proposing a sanitary sewer for the four (4) out lots. HOYES: I sent a letter. This is in the City of Carmel and is a Regulated Drain on US 431 and US 31. This was once an Indiana Waterway Park and Wetland. So you will need to get approvals to encroach that parking lot from the DNR and the US Corp of Engineers. Once you have those approvals we will do a non enforcement of that area. According to the Arial Maps your parcel lines do not match. STRICKLAND: Yes I know. HILL: You will need Board of Works approval for the sewer and give us some calculations on what is out there. Does not appear to be any curb cuts. We will need Engineers estimate, Performance Guarantees. Do the plans reflect the way the new ramp is built? STRICKLAND: Not sure. HILL: I need a Legal description of this property. I do not believe this property was included with the Lowe's property for sewer and water availability. Looks like Sanitary Sewers are outside the easement. STRICKLAND: Okay. We will look at that. HILL: Show the phasing of this project. We did have comments on drainage calcs. I sent M. Monroe a letter and I will fax it to you too. SHUPPERD: We will extend our facility from Lowe's. Is this all going to be parking lot with the restaurant first? We need to look at flow sheets and make a decision. Are you going to just do enough parking to get back there? How will you phase? TAC 12/17/03 23 STRICKLAND: We want to work with you on the phasing and running service to HOYT: I faxed a letter to M. Monroe. Are you going to have a sprinkler system in this building? STRICKLAND: We passed that letter on to the tenants architect for them to address. HOYT: Is there a basement? STRICKLAND: No. HOYT: I will wait for the Architects response letter. AKERS: That will have an address off Lowe's Way. BUTLER: Sent a letter to Paul Reis. SOUTH: I will pass this letter to you. The bigger issue is how will you sequence this site? The new Rule indicates the additional restaurants when they come on line will not require a new Erosion Control Plan or new NOI but they have to comply with the Erosion Control Plan of the overall original site. Therefore the Erosion Control Plan for the original site should be detailed so as the new buildings come on line we have a plan prepared. PAUL: We tried to get into that now and were not sure of the phasing. SOUTH: Show the first phasing drawn out like this, "X" is going to be built. That way I can figure out if your plan is adequate. Then Phase II, this is going to be built and so on. If you can do that verbally fine or plan drawings. TAC 12/17/03 24 the pad. SHUPPERD: Do you have any idea of loads primarily or if you do it all at once? We should get together and figure out the phasing. BREWER: I need to review the PUD and get comments to you. On your east and west boundaries are you going to install those or are they going to be installed by the County Highway? PAUL: That is in our ADLS area. STRICKLAND: We will install the perimeter plantings. BLANCHARD: Is this a one story? STRICKLAND: Yes. BLANCHARD: What is the square footage? STRICKLAND: Just fewer than 7,500 square feet. BLANCHARD: All exits require walkway to a public way. Exits should be illuminated at all times. Will you have a construction trailer? STRICKLAND: Yes. BLANCHARD: You will need a Use Variance for that? Before scheduling a presubmittal meeting in our office with G. Stahl and building permits issued a copy of the requirements and commercial permitting procedures must be filled out, signed off and approved. Once that is accomplished permits will be complete within 10 days. HOYT: I faxed a letter to M. Monroe. Are you going to have a sprinkler system in this building? STRICKLAND: We passed that letter on to the tenants architect for them to address. HOYT: Is there a basement? STRICKLAND: No. HOYT: I will wait for the Architects response letter. AKERS: That will have an address off Lowe's Way. BUTLER: Sent a letter to Paul Reis. SOUTH: I will pass this letter to you. The bigger issue is how will you sequence this site? The new Rule indicates the additional restaurants when they come on line will not require a new Erosion Control Plan or new NOI but they have to comply with the Erosion Control Plan of the overall original site. Therefore the Erosion Control Plan for the original site should be detailed so as the new buildings come on line we have a plan prepared. PAUL: We tried to get into that now and were not sure of the phasing. SOUTH: Show the first phasing drawn out like this, "X" is going to be built. That way I can figure out if your plan is adequate. Then Phase II, this is going to be built and so on. If you can do that verbally fine or plan drawings. TAC 12/17/03 24 PAUL: I need that letter that you check off. SOUTH: I have one. You are also under the new Rules. I suggest you revise your storm water inlet protection practices. I see this site draining off site. Better inlet protection than the sandbags. On 2 sediment basins you show a profile through that basin. You might make it clearer of what you want there. BROERMANN STRICKLAND: BROERMANN: DOBOSIEWICZ: I have not finished my review. But the right -of -way that is shown for the ramp of the northbound ramp on US 31 we never received recorded copies of that dedication. We had a survey done on it. I will get you a letter. We do want to see updated conditions of the road. (inaudible) access from the sidewalk that would require you extending the sidewalk to the south and all four (4) buildings best suited and along that east end to the parking lot and along the 2 ponds to provide those connections. We need to get the building details. You need a ground sign detail as well. We need a diagram of the parking situation along with the planting requirements. ...END OF TRANSMISSION. TAC 12/17/03 25