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From: Bryan Stumpf [stumpfb @estridge.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:18 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Tim Mcmahon; Bryan Stumpf
Subject: FYI: Lincolnshire: Attached are the proposed written commitments
Attachments: LS Written Commitments Revised Draftl2- 13- 10.pdf
Angie,
Attached are the proposed written commitments we drafted after our meeting with the residents last
Thursday night. We shared the proposed commitments with the residents yesterday and they discussed
them at a resident meeting last night. In the email we received after their meeting the residents did not
propose any specific changes to the proposed commitments.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Bryan D. Stumpf, AICP, RLA
Director of Community Development
The Estridge Companies
14300 Clay Terrace Boulevard, Suite 244
Carmel, IN 46032
317.669.8557 direct line
317.582.2452 fax
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:37 AM
To: 'Bryan Stumpf'
Cc: tmcmahon @fischerhomes.com; Hollibaugh, Mike P
Subject: RE: Lincolnshire: Updated application
Attachments: RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE DESIGN STANDARDS VER 2.pdf
Bryan
Just an idea that Mike H had: would you be willing to add our Draft Residential Architectural Design Standards to the
commitments? They are attached.
-Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
From: Bryan Stumpf jmailto:stumpfbestridge.netl
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:19 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: tmcmahon0fischerhomes.com; Bryan Stumpf; Hollibaugh, Mike P
Subject: FYI: Lincolnshire: Updated application
Angie,
Attached is an updated application for the Lincolnshire commitment amendment. The only change has
been to the wording of Commitment Amendment #2 on Exhibit C. Per a discussion with Mike Hollibaugh,
he suggested we change the wording from the brand name "HardiePlank" to "fiber cement board" and to
add the phrase "or a mixture thereof" to identify that there can be a combination of the permitted
materials on the front elevation of the homes.
I will be sending the materials for the packets to you later today. Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Bryan D. Stumpf, AICP, RLA
Director of Community Development
The Estridge Companies
14300 Clay Terrace Boulevard, Suite 244
Carmel, IN 46032
317.669.8557 direct line
317.582.2452 fax
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:34 AM
To: 'rorigoldman @gotown.net'
Cc: Donahue -Wold, Alexia K
Subject: Lincolnshire
Attachments: LS Commitment Amendment Application 11- 19- 10.pdf; Commitments 5- 17- 2OO5.pdf;
4 -19 -2005 lincolnshire bldg elevations.pdf
Rori
Attached is the petitioner's application for a proposed amendment to the commitments. This petition will have a public
hearing at the Dec. 14 plan commission meeting which begins at 6pm.
Also attached are the existing commitments from 2005 and some of the proposed architectural building elevations from
2005.
The entire file from the original approval of Lincolnshire (formerly called Murphy Hall) can be found online at:
htto://cocdocs.ci.carmel.in.us/weblink/O/fol/86421/Rowtaspx and you can print documents to .pdf.
Have a great Thanksgiving weekend,
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
City of Carmel Planning Zoning Division
Dept. of Community Services
1 Civic Square, 3rd Fir.
Carmel, IN 46032
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From: John Molitor [{moiitor @prodigy.netj
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 10:59 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Hollibaugh, Mike P
Subject: Re: action requested: Lincolnshire: Attached is the request for administrative interpretation
Mike Mr. Stumpf makes a very persuasive case that these commitments should be modified in order to accommodate
homes that are substantially similar to the 700 series homes. But he does not make a persuasive case that the
commitments do not mean what they say Section 4 says, explicitly, "All homes to be constructed in the Subdivision shall
be The Estridge Companies 700 series homes...." It says "shall be There are no exceptions specified, or even hinted at,
anywhere in the document.
Moreover, there is no ambiguity as to how these commitments can be lawfully modified. The Department of Community
Services has no authority to approve a modification of these commitments only the Plan Commission has such power.
Section 5 says, "These commitments may be modified or terminated only by a decision of the Plan Commission after a
public hearing...."
Certainly, the Department has the ability to recommend a modification of the commitments, and even to facilitate prompt
consideration by the Plan Commission of a proposed modification say, by suggesting a special meeting of the
Commission or its executive committee to conduct the required public hearing. But I would not recommend that you issue
any determination, or agree to any "interpretation that would'purportedly allow anything other than the 700 series homes
to be constructed, unless the Plan Commission has first duly approved a commitment modification.
John
From "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn@carmeLin.gov>
To: John Molitor <imolitor(aprodigv.net>
Cc: "Hollibaugh, Mike P" <MHollibauah@carmel.in.gov>
Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 10:00:00 AM
Subject: RE: action requested: Lincolnshire: Attached is the request for administrative interpretation
And here are the commitments, attached.
-Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
From: Hollibaugh, Mike P
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:45 AM
To: 'John Molitor'; Conn, Angelina V
Subject: FW: action requested: Lincolnshire: Attached is the request for administrative interpretation
John, would you please review this letter from Estridge regarding the commitments for Lincolnshire, and email
me when you might have some time to discuss further. Thanks,
Mike
From: Bryan Stumpf fmailto:stumpfb @estridge.netl
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:29 AM
To: Hollibaugh, Mike P
Cc: Bryan Stumpf
Subject: action requested: Lincolnshire: Attached is the request for administrative interpretation
Mike,
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RE: Request for Administrative Interpretation of Lincolnshire Commitments
Dear Mike:
I am writing to request an administrative interpretation to clarify the written
commitments for the Lincolnshire community located at 141 Street and Towne Road.
The first sentence under Section 4 of the commitments states, "All homes to be
constructed in the Subdivision shall be The Estridge Companies 700 series homes and
the average square footage for these homes shall be 2800 square feet and all homes shall
have a basement." Specifically, I am seeking clarification of the phrase "The Estridge
Companies 700 series homes."
This phrase was not intended to be narrowly construed to mean only the 700 series
homes available at the time of the zoning approval. Customarily, we use language such
as "the homes shall be substantially similar to The Estridge Companies 700 series
homes..." This language helps set a standard that in conjunction with the architectural
requirements of the commitments establishes the quality of homes in the community
while allowing flexibility for the introduction of new home designs meeting these
standards. This has already been the case in the application of the Lincolnshire
commitments. The City has permitted and we have constructed several new home
designs that did not exist when the community was originally approved. The City
approved these new home plans because they met the architectural requirements of the
commitments.
It seems reasonable that homes which are substantially similar to The Estridge
Companies 700 series homes and that meet or exceed the architectural requirements in
the commitments would be permissible to build in Lincolnshire, even if they did not
contain the 700 series title. The intent of the 700 series standard and the letter of the
architectural requirements would be upheld.
The reason for the request is that another builder is interested in constructing homes
along side of us in Lincolnshire. The increase in construction activity would greatly
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benefit the neighborhood and the city. As written today, the commitments allow other
builders into Lincolnshire, but the commitments may be construed to say the other
builders must build Estridge 700 series homes. Our attempt to identify a standard for
the community has inadvertently created a possible barrier to the timely completion of
the neighborhood. It is worthy to note that Estridge still retains full HOA architectural
approval authority over all homes built in the neighborhood and that the proposed plans
meet the architectural requirements in the commitments.
Please let me know if you concur with the interpretation that homes which are
substantially similar to The Estridge Companies 700 series homes and that meet or
exceed the architectural requirements in the commitments would be permissible to build
in Lincolnshire. If you have any questions on the matter you can reach me at 317-669
8557 or at-stumpfb@estridge.net.
Sincerely,
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Bry D. Stumpf, AICP, RLA
Director of Community Development
Estridge Development Company
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