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Conn, Angelina V From: Tracy Hornbeak [THornbeak @designteam.net] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:21 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: June 7 Plan Commission committees I dept. reports Please remove us from this meeting... thank you. Thank you, Tracy Hornbeak Project Manager Design Team Sign Company, LLC 350 Pinhook Drive Savannah., TN 38 372 800 953 -3744 From: Conn, Angelina V [maiito:Aconn @carmel.in.govj Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:16 AM To: Dorman, Jay; Steve Stromquist; Susan Westermeier; Rider, Kevin D; brad.grabow +cpcCahgmail.com; Hagan, Judy; Kestner, Nick; ephraimwilfona @amail.com; indylawson @amail.com; jw57adams @att.net Cc: Angie Molt; Boone, Rachel M.; Donahue -Wold, Alexia K; Duncan, Gary R; Ellison, Christopher M; Hancock, Ramona B; Heck, Nancy S; Hollibaugh, Mike P; John Molitor; Keeling, Adrienne M; Linda Burdett Ham Co PC; Littlejohn, David W; Marilyn Anderson; Mark Zukerman; Randy Marra; webteam @heckweb.net; Rick Osborn; Ron Houck; Stewart, Lisa M; Tingley, Connie S; Worthley, Matthew D; mw9285 @aol.com; Hayes, Melanie; Martin, Candy; newsfromyou @indvstar.com; NKRental @aol.com; Jeffrey Cohen; marv.donlev @ahm- hotels.com; Judy Hagan; indianaacepnick @sbcglobal.net; iav @goweighless.com; Haney, Douglas C; Mindham, Daren; RIchreis @aol.com; Pohlman, Jesse M.; Driver, Roberta G.; SteveL@bagi.com; heather.gillers @indystar.com; Bruce Smith; Kevin. morganaindystar.com; iustinmoffett @aol.com; Brady Kuhn; Andrew Miller; jmarshall @midwestrealtyservices.net; raould @midwestrealtvservices.net; gsmall @desianpointarchitects.com; mharrisont&edmartin.com; Tracy Gamez; Larry Heid; Michael Belay; Dan Fields; Tony Padgett Subject: June 7 Plan Commission committees 1 dept. reports Good afternoon, Plan Commissioners: Attached in 2 file formats are the department reports for the Tuesday, June 7 Plan Commission Subdivision Committee meeting. Paper copies of this and any supplemental info will be mailed to you today. (Please note that the Special Studies Committee rrleetin`.. is cancelled since there are no iterns to review.) Electronic copies of the info packets can also be viewed online at: http: cocdocs. ci. carmel.in.us /weblink/0 /fol /101408/Rowl.aspx just refer to each docket no. to find them. Sincerely, Angie Conn, Planning Administrator City of Carmel Planning Zoning Division Dept. of Community Services 1 Civic Square, 3rd Fir. Carmel, IN 46032 0:317 -571 -24171 F: 317- 571 -2426 I E: aconn @carmel.in.gov 1 Boone, Rachel M. From: Tracy Gamez [tgamez ©designteam.net] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 2:47 PM To: Boone, Rachel M. Subject: RE: Applebee's of Carmel, IN He put the lights back on the wall as well. Thank You Tracy Hornbeak Project ?Manager. Design Team Sign Company 350 Pinhook Drive Savannah, TN 38372 800 953 -3744 From: Boone, Rachel M. [mailto:rboone @carmel.in.gov] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 1:46 PM To: Tracy Gamez Cc: Jaclyn Whitt; Conn, Angelina V; Terrence Howell Subject: RE: Applebee's of Carmel, IN Ok, thank you. 2a.dteL 3ooi ei Sign Permit Specialist City of Carmel Department of Community Services 317 -571 -2417 From: Tracy Gamez [mailto:tgamez©designteam.net] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 2:21 PM To: Boone, Rachel M. Cc: Jaclyn Whitt; Conn, Angelina V; Terrence Howell Subject: RE: Applebee's of Carmel, IN Sorry... my graphics person forgot to change it to match color of building. I will get it corrected. Thank You Tracy Hornheak Project Manager Design Team Sign Company 350 Pinhook Drive Savannah, TN 38372 800 953 -3744 1 Boone, Rachel M. From: Tracy Gamez [tgamez @designteam.net] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 2:21 PM To: Boone, Rachel M. Cc: Jaclyn Whitt; Conn, Angelina V; Terrence Howell Subject: RE: Applebee's of Carmel, IN Sorry... my graphics person forgot to change it to match color of building. I will get it corrected. Thank You Tracy Hornbeak Project Manager Design Team Sign Company 350 Pinhook Drive Savannah. TN 38372 800 953 -3744 From: Boone, Rachel M. [mailto:rboone @carmel.in.gov] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 1:16 PM To: Tracy Gamez Cc: Jaclyn Whitt; Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Applebee's of Carmel, IN Hi Tracy, Can you address the lighting questions below and the raceway issue? Thanks, Rachel R a ch,ei 3 oone' Sign Permit Specialist City of Carmel Department of Community Services 317 571 -2417 From: Tracy Gamez [mailto:tgamez @designteam.net] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:58 AM To: Boone, Rachel M. Cc: Jaclyn Whitt; Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Applebee's of Carmel, IN Attached is what I am sending with the ADLS amendment unless you see any other issues... Thank You Tracy Hornbeak Project Manager Design Team Sign Company 350 Pinhook Drive Savannah, TN 38372 800 953 -3744 From: Boone, Rachel M. [mailto:rboone ©carmel.in.gov] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:31 PM To: Tracy Gamez Cc: Jaclyn Whitt; Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Applebee's of Carmel, IN Hi Tracy, I'm sorry but we do not calculate different sign components separately. We also do not allow more than one wall sign on the same elevation. However, boxing in the square footage is a way we can allow multiple wall signs /messages on one elevation. But you have to meet the square footage requirements in order to do it. So sometimes it helps, and in your case it will the size will just need to be altered a bit. With the ground sign and the wall sign facing west, I do not see any hardship or reason why the south elevation cannot be reduced to meet the Sign Ordinance requirements. Thanks, Rachel Rac hei/Bo Sign Permit Specialist City of Carmel Department of Community Services 317 571 -2417 From: Tracy Gamez [mailto:tgamez ©designteam.net] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:21 PM To: Boone, Rachel M. Cc: Jaclyn Whitt; Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Applebee's of Carmel, IN Hi Rachel: Thanks for the quick response!! On the signs... can I separate the sq footage from the Apple and Applebee's.... In other words, are you allowed more than one sign on an elevation? Reason being, boxing it in has a lot of "dead" space, and I am seeing if there is a way (that is within the city ordinance) to get what the customer wants and meet your code. Thank You Tracy Hornbeak Project Manager Design .Team Sign Company 350 Pinhook Drive Savannah, TN 38372 2 800 953 -3744 From: Boone, Rachel M. [mailto:rboone @carmel.in.gov] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 3:31 PM To: Tracy Gamez Cc: Jaclyn Whitt; Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Applebee's of Carmel, IN Hi Tracy, You will need to submit an ADLS Amendment application for these changes. You will need to go to the Plan Commission Special Studies Committee for approval. Their next meeting is on Wednesday, May 4 Here is a link to their calendar. The application is due on April 15 The fee would be $541.40. This is for three signs and the awning changes. Here are my initial review comments: 1. South elevation: a. We measure square footage by drawing a box around the entire sign. So I will need new drawings showing from the top of the apple to the bottom of the Neighborhood Grill and Bar sign. My rough measurements show this whole sign at about 63 sq. ft. Only 40 sq. ft. is allowed for this elevation. I think the best fix will be to reduce the size of the apple. b. We are not in favor of raceways. We prefer signs be flush mounted to the building. If there must be a raceway, it must match the building color it is installed on. Perhaps you could have black letters during the day and white at night. That would help visibility during both the night and the day against the light colored sign band area. c. Please confirm that the Neighborhood Bar and Grill sign will appear like individual letters. Meanign only the white letters will light up at night, correct? d. The "welcome back" sign is not allowed. Please have this removed. e. The removal of the awning over the door and replacing it with the metal awning is a nice feature. The addition of lights and a speaker in this structure is also very nice. f. It appears that all of the lights on the building (between the windows) have been removed in the drawings. What will they be replaced with? If not, why are they being removed from the building? g. We are not in favor of the red aluminum covering for the roof of the entrance. This does not go with the rest of the building. It should remain as is. h. The new awning graphics are nice. We are in support of these changes. 2. West elevation a. The wall sign is shown at 42.69 sq. ft. Only 40 sq. ft. is allowed. Please reduce the size of the sign. b. Again, we are not in support of raceways or raceways that are not painted to match the building. Please show the raceway as beige to match the building or remove it altogether. Another option is to switch the color of the letters to a black during the day, white at night to help with visibility against the building. c. What lights will replace the ones that are shown removed from the building, if any? d. The ground sign is shown at 40.49 sq. ft. 42.65 sq. ft. was previously approved by a variance. So the size is ok. e. We are concerned about the design of the ground sign though. We understand the new look and like it, however we prefer individual letters wherever possible. Can you commit that only the white Applebee's letters and the apple will be illuminated? This way the sign will appear to have individual letters, even though it is a full cabinet sign. 3 f. Please confirm the height of the sign. Will it include the existing brick base? The maximum height allowed is 6'. g. Please confirm that plants will be coming up this spring or will be planted soon. Landscaping (not just mulch or grass) is required for a ground sign. h. Is it possible to not have the sign be so wide? Is 30" wide really necessary? It just seems very bulky. i. The replacement "Carside to Go" signs are fine. However, what are the additional signs installed underneath them? Only 3 sq. ft. per sign (post) is allowed. So these will need to be removed if their information is redundant or additional. Please confirm. 3. North elevation a. The awning color change on this elevation is fine. Why is no graphic proposed? b. Will the lights remain above the awning? 4. East Elevation a. The proposed awning changes are fine on this elevation. b. Again, please provide information on the lights that were on the building, but are now removed in your rendering. Please respond to the comments and requests. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Rachel Rachel Boone Sign Permit Specialist City of Carmel Department of Community Services 317 571 -2417 Original Message From: Tracy Gamez [mailto:tgamez @designteam.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:08 PM To: Boone, Rachel M. Cc: Jaclyn Whitt Subject: FW: Applebee's of Carmel, IN Please find attached the permit form and drawings for Applebee's of Carmel. I would like to send you a check with the formal application. Is there anything else you would like me to send? I could not find the building application online for the awnings. Thank You Tracy Hornbeak Project Manager Design Team Sign Company 350 Pinhook Drive Savannah, TN 38372 800 953 -3744 Original Message From: scanner @designtream.net mailto:scanner @designtream.net] 4 Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:58 AM To: Tracy Gamez Subject: CS 420i [00:c0:ee:7a:16:0d] 5