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Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals
Hearing Officer
July 25, 2011 Meeting
5:30 PM
Caucus Rooms, Carmel City Hall
Present: Kent Broach, Hearing Officer
Connie Tingley, Recording Secretary
Staff Members: Rachel Boone, Planning Administrator
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Legal Counsel: John Molitor
Public Hearing
1. (V) King of Glory Church Signage
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval:
Docket No. 11060008 V Ch.25.07.02 -07 E: Sign located in road right of way.
The site is located at 2201 E. 106 St. and is zoned S- 2/Residence within the Keystone
Parkway Overlay Zone. Filed by Kristen Kohl of Sign Craft Industries on behalf of King of
Glory Church.
Present for the Petitioner:
Kristin Kohn
New monument sign in right -of -way off new roundabout at 106 Keystone
Public Hearing closed
Department Report:
Rachel Boone
City acquired right -of -way for new roundabout interchange
Existing sign removed during construction
Needs to be in right -of -way for visibility
o Significant drop -off to Church property
o Placement approximately 20 feet into 40 -feet right -of -way
Replacing and upgrading previous signage
Department recommended positive consideration of the variance.
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Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals
Hearing Officer
July 25, 2011
Action: Mr. Broach APPROVED Docket No. 11060008 V, King of Glory Church signage for
sign located in road right -of -way.
2 -4. (V) Fidelity Keystone Signage
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approvals:
Docket No. 11070004 V Ch.25.07.02 -10 B Number of signs (6 proposed, 4 allowed)
Docket No. 11070005 V Ch.25.07.02 -10 B Sign not facing a public right -of -way:
west (1 proposed, 0 allowed)
Docket No. 11070006 V Ch.25.07.02 -10 C Three signs facing one public right -of-
way: east (3 proposed, 2 allowed)
The site is located at 650 E. Carmel Dr. and is zoned B -8 /Business. Filed by Joe Calderon of
Bose McKinney Evans on behalf of Equicor Development.
Present for the Petitioner:
Joe Calderon and Mark Zuckerman
Aerial photos shown
Currently no signage on west facade visible form Carmel Drive
Bank of Indianapolis has one sign on north facade facing Carmel Drive
Proposed new sign (3 balances east facade
Three signs require variances because of location
Tenant signage very important
Propose two new signs for building subject to ADLS Amend
Public Hearing closed
Department Report:
Rachel Boone
Three existing wall signs and one upgraded ground sign
This allows more tenants to be identified on outside of building
Sign Ordinance allows two signs for multi tenant, multi -level building in addition to ground
sign because of two public streets
Not uncommon request for additional signage for upper floors
Department recommended positive consideration of the variance.
Discussion
Signage design addressed at Special Studies committee
Signage will all be same color (gold)
Action: Mr. Broach APPROVED Docket Nos. 11070004 -06 V, Fidelity Keystone signage for
number of signs (6 proposed, 4 allowed); sign not facing public right -of -way, west (1 proposed, 0
allowed); three signs facing one public right -of -way, east (3proposed, 2 allowed).
5 -7. (SU, V) Lubavitch of Indiana Worship Center
The applicant seeks the following special use re- approval:
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Hearing Officer
July 25, 2011
Docket No. 11050019 SU Amend
Two development standards variances are
ZO Ch. 5.02 Religious Uses in SI District.
also requested:
Docket No. 11060016 V ZO Ch. 5.04.03.E minimum lot width, 200 feet
Docket No. 11060017 V ZO Ch. 26.02.08 25 -ft side yard setback for churches
The site is located at 2640 W 96 Street and is zoned S1 /Residence. Filed by E. Davis Coots
of Coots Henke Wheeler, PC for Lubavitch of Indiana.
Present for the Petitioner:
Dave Coots
Brandon Schreeg, Remenschneider; Dennis Lockwood, Lockwood Design; Greg Snelling,
Engineer
Renewal of Special Use approved October 2007
o One year extension received administratively
Landscape revisions
o To preserve mature trees
Efforts to minimize run -off and relocation of retention pond
o Change water retention area
Modifications made required variances for lot width and rear yard setback from 25 feet to 20
feet along west boundary
Changes were shown in packet with comparisons (Tab 4)
Landscape changes moved cul -de -sac configuration (Tab 5)
Revisions constitute improvements in overall design
o Reducing building area
o Reducing impervious paving area by more than 50 percent
o Reducing lot coverage
o Reducing exterior lighting from 46 to 21 light fixtures
o Reducing parking spaces from 36 to 31
o Improves retention of existing mature landscape material
o Adds considerable landscape material along west boundary
o Improves overall product
o Photos of existing conditions along west elevation with mature trees and landscaping
Specifics are shown in packet
Undeveloped site in rapidly growing area
Homeowners Association south of 96 Street did not anticipate any objections
Minor construction compared to project at College Park Church
Will not adversely affect surrounding property values
Complimentary use to residential uses
Low impact use contemplated by the Ordinance
Parking reduced because of reduction in overall size
o Parking re- oriented from east/west to circular parking oriented north/south
o Toward the east, away from Shelborne Greene subdivision to the west
Compatible with existing large church
All utilities are in place
96 Street still undergoing improvements
City Engineering office has approved accel /decel lane from entryway
o Ties in with accel /decel lane from College Park Church to the east
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Hearing Officer
July 25, 2011
Traffic flow will be accommodated by on -site parking and City improvements to 96 Street
Favorable:
Rabbi Avrohom Grossbaum represented supporters from the church
Small congregation
Vital facility for community for prayer, classes and fellowship
Unique to greater Carmel /Indianapolis Hasidic community
Classes are in the evening with Saturday as main day of worship
o Services Friday evenings and Saturday mornings
People are encouraged to walk to worship
Nice transition from mega church to small church to residential
Remonstrance:
David Kennedy, President, Shelborne Greene HOA, 3468 Muirfield Way
Familiar with situation in 2007
Residents along border primarily concerned with light, noise, hours of operation
Patios, yards, etc along berm
Had not seen new plans /revisions
Mr. Broach explained the Petitioner needed to return to the BZA because building had not been
started in the three -year approval time period.
Mr. Coots remarked the building height had reduced from 31 feet to 28 feet, making better elevations.
Remonstrance continued:
Steve Hantz, 9605 Cypress Way, adjacent to parcel
Opposed to granting lot width since beginning of project
o 200 feet regulation for safety and traffic issues
Had not seen new plan
His understanding that cul -de -sac helped meet 200 feet requirement
Driveway has moved toward Shelborne Greene properties
Does not agree with Findings of Fact:
o This request not suitable for property
o Felt property values would be affected
o Traffic would be affected by walkers; not safe to walk in street
Trees along border are bare during Fall and Winter
Steve Noone, 9653 Cypress Way
Previously submitted letter with objections
Primary objection is lot just not big enough for project
He understood variance was granted because of the cul -de -sac
Work was to begin fairly quickly after 2007 variance; nothing has started
Received letter from Mr. Coots in May, 2009 asking them to consent to a site change
o Essentially a straight road along west side of property
o Building was going to be flipped so that it faced the opposite way
o Did not sign the consent form
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Hearing Officer
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Year later trees and shrubs were cut down
o Rabbi Grossbaum wrote they really wanted to be good neighbors and good stewards of
the land
o There has not been good stewardship of the land in this five -year project
o No confidence in project being carried out in timely manner
Not good project for this site
Michele Anderson, 9609 Cypress Way, adjacent to parcel
Lots of changes; need new application
Removal of two -lane circular driveway on east side of property
o This moves 22 -feet driveway 6 feet from her back fence
o There is also 5 -feet walkway for pedestrians
Increase in gross building area by 1195 square feet (Tab 5)
Reduction in parking spaces from 35 to 31
o This is for addition of 8 bike spaces
o Will these spaces be bicycle and /or parking spaces?
o Does not see as reduction in parking
Not suitable use for 135 -feet wide property
She will be looking at the back of the building; not someone's home
o Any resident would police who is on the property
o Need security for all the hours the congregation is not on the property
Property value will decrease
o Two -lane driveway and walking path close to her property line
Does not fit Comprehensive Plan
o South Central Carmel plan requires protection of stable single- family neighborhoods
Through buffering, vegetation and distance
o West Carmel plan also strives to protect wooded lots and other natural resources
o Too close to residences
o Pictures show mature tress are bare and do not provide buffer or vegetation in
Fall and Winter
In the Fall, Rabbi Grossbaum wrote existing home had been abandoned many years and
could wait for demolish
Tab 3 aerial photo from 2007 does not show the current size of College Park church
o New aerial photo shows additions to College Park
18 -feet sanctuary
Jr. High Activity Center and Gym
12,000 square feet for Preschool, Elementary School and Nursery
62 percent increase in Adult Education space
8 more counseling and mediation rooms
Increased attendance 44 percent in last 18 months
This facility will be used throughout the week
o Can streets handle the traffic?
o College Park Church is buffered from Shelborne Greene by the vacant Lubavitch parcel
as well as vegetation along their border
2011 improved plan is not same plan submitted in 2007
o Lighting along driveway eliminated
Lights might be needed for safety for night -time services
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Hearing Officer
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o Improvements do not protect neighborhood's property values
Lot is too narrow and close to Shelborne Greene for a church
Andrew Osterholzer, 9643 Cypress Way, adjacent to parcel
Purchased home on Cypress Way in 2006
o Sought home on that side of street for woods and privacy provided
o City had no plans on file at that time
o Assured from various departments would only be developed as private residence due to
zoning and lot width restrictions
This seems to be trying to get around Zoning Ordinance
o Project was somewhat objected to at first
o Cul -de -sac solution for 200 feet frontage has been removed
o Not an extension or renewal; different proposal
Concerned about security when congregation not present; theft and vandalism
o Not patrolled regularly
o Out of sight from street
Buffer trees could be damaged during building process
Not safe for members to walk to site
Does not want contractors /service technicians viewing his children in backyard
Neighborhood children can cross through to parking lot and detention pond
Noise pollution from dumpster and cars
Light pollution from light poles in parking lot
During heavy rains, property becomes a swamp
o Parcel sets lower than property to east
o How will they manage extreme run -off?
Feels it will affect resale value
Over supply of commercial properties in area for church to locate
Small congregation will probably increase and outgrow this facility
Discussion by Mr. Broach:
Concerns about driveway
Landscape plan lacks evergreens; other churches have walls of evergreens to complete buffer
Remonstrators brought up new points that need to be addressed
Recommend petition be moved to full Board next month because of changes
Would not need another public notice; may send first class meeting notice
Packet of information was provided to Shelborne Greene HOA President
Encouraged Petitioner to meet with neighbors
Action: Mr. Broach TRANSFERRED Docket Nos. 11050019 SU Amend, and 11060016 -17 V,
945 Lubavitch of Indiana Worship Center to the full BZA Hearing, Monday, August 22, 2011,
6:00 pm.
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Hearing Officer
July 25, 2011
Adjournment
The Hearing Officer adjourned the meeting at 6:35 PM.
Approved this 2,7 day of 20 /I
Hearing Officer Kent Broach Secretary Co; ie /gley
File: 20110725 hearing officer.doc
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