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Home My WebLink AboutMinutes SpecStdy 07-05-11 _0 oft44 e F 4.�_ to l, I ill 4�,1� tea '4' q P Carmel Plan Commission SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE July 5, 2011 CAUCUS ROOMS, 2 FLR CARMEL CITY HALL ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, IN 46032 6:00 PM Members Present: Nick Kestner, Kevin "Woody" Rider, Steve Stromquist, Susan Westermeier DOCS Staff Present: Rachel Boone, Alexia Donahue -Wold; Legal Counsel John Molitor Also Present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary The Special Studies Committee considered the following items: 1. Docket No. 11040009 ADLS Amend: Applebee's (US 421) Signage. The applicant seeks approval for two new wall signs, one new ground, sign and new awnings. The site is located at 10325 N. Michigan Rd. and is zoned B -3/ Business within the US 421 Overlay Zone. Filed by Tracy Gamezof Design Team Sign Company. Present for Petitioner: Daniel Eisenbarger, General Manager of Applebee's at 10325 North Michigan Road. Overview: Seeking approval for 2 new signs, ground sign and new awnings Restaurant being remodeled O Awnings are red m Castleton Mall has same, new awning C o Ra i.1 All p propowd changes :m ibtiOridinanct a 2 stroet fron° Cicvnc kiw Signs have new fonts, new colors Dept is in support Committee Members Comments: o Awning structure interior illumination? o Drawing shows awning with tiny bulbs inside e Request petitioner take pictures of awning at night to show level of illumination of awning Motion: Woody Rider to approve, giving Rachel Boone final "picture approval;" seconded by Sue Westermeier, approved 4 -0. 1 S :/PlanCommission/ Minutes /SpecStudyCnntceMinutes/PC SS Cmttee Minutes 2011/SS -2011 ju105 2. Docket No. 11050011 ADLS Amend: Riley Specialists (Fidelity Plaza, tower 3) Signage. The applicant seeks approval for a new sign location on the north elevation of the building. The site is located at 11590 N. Meridian St. and is zoned S -2 B -6 within the US 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by Mary Solada of Bingham McHale on behalf of University Pediatrics Associates. Present for Petitioner: Greg Ewing, Land Planner, Bingham McHale (for Mary Solada) offices at Ten West Market Street, Indianapolis 46204 Overview: Signage for University Pediatrics Associates d/b /a Riley Specialists Riley Specialists occupies entire third floor sees 150 -160 patients per week BZA Hearing Officer approved variance for wall sign on June 27th Sign on north elevation of bldg, flush mounted Sign is internally illuminated with face -lit channel letters, dark bronze returns trim caps Dept Comments, Rachel Boone: Variance was granted for additional, 4 sign Proposal meets sign ordinance Dept recommend approval Motion: Woody Rider to approve, seconded by Nick Kestner. Approved 4 -0 3. Docket No. 11060007 ADLS Amend: Fidelity Keystone Building Signage. The applicant seeks approval to change an existing ground sign to allow for multiple tenants to be identified. The site is located at 650 E. Carmel Dr. and is zoned B -8. It is not located within any Overlay Zone. Filed by Mark Zukerman of Fidelity Keystone, LLC. Present for Petitioner: Mark Zuke z, 9410 North Meridian Street, .anapolis_ Overview: Changing monument sign from address marker to multi- tenant sign Tenant panels will be cut -out letters with illumination from behind Panels will change as tenants change Building is approx 34,000 square feet all local tenants Dept Comments, .Rache/ BMW: fit RIMS iS fai this bhig way and to identify entify t s More't ran 7 -tenants >inbldg Switching face panels only Signage should help in leasing of the bldg Committee Members Comments: If all tenants have one address, the street address should appear on the sign Possible to put address on the side of sign casing that faces street Street address would make it easier to locate Motion: Woody Rider to approve with addition of street address on the south side of sign (petitioner will submit drawing to Dept) seconded by Sue Westermeier, Approved 4 -0 2 S:/PlanCommission/ Minutes /SpecStudyCmtteeMinutes/PC SS Cmttee Minutes 2011 /SS -2011 ju105 4. Docket No. 11060015 ADLS Amend: TruWorth Auto Signage. The applicant seeks approval to add two new wall signs. The site is located at 3006 E. 96"' St. and is zoned B -3. It is not located within any Overlay Zone. Filed by Wes Shealey of ASI Signage Present for Petitioner: Wes Shealey, ASI Signage Overview: o Proposal is for remodel of existing Tom Wood Lexus facility o Proposal includes addition of two new wall signs for TruWorth o New Signs on south facade of building TruWorth is a new concept in automobile buying selling Dept Continents, Rachel Boone: o Petitioner is allowed two wall signs South facing sign is allowed up to 90 square feet o East facing sign can be up to 75 square feet Signs are internally illuminated, individual letters, blue color with small bit of orange Dept is in support of signs o Tag line is not typically seen, but is allowed (petitioner states tag line will help draw attention to new concept in selling) Motion: Woody Rider to approve, seconded by Nick Kestner, Approved 4 -0 5. Docket No. 11060011 ADLS Amend: Warren Phelps Addition, lot 23 Blue House Bridal Store Signage. The applicant seeks approval for a ground sign. The site is located at 31 S. Rangeline Rd. and is zoned C -2 /Old Town District. It is not located within any Overlay Zone. Filed by Norman Levine, property owner. Present for Petitioner: Valerie Dinsmore, owner, Blue House Bridal Store Overview: o Petitioner seeking approval for new ground sign o Currently no signage at this location Dept Comments, Rachel Boone: Sire kteated in Old Town District Pact and Sigh Pros i€ s meets all requirements i Sign will not'be tit ground lighting (up-Iighting) allowed Motion: Sue Westermeier to approve, seconded by Woody Rider; Approved 4 -0 6 -7. Docket No. 10110012 DP /ADLS: Legacy PUD Turkey Hill Minit Market. The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for an automobile fuel station, retail store, carwash and also seeks the following zoning waiver approval: Docket No. 10110013 ZW: Section 9.02, Legacy PUD ordinance Z- 501 -07, maximum 15-ft front yard building setback. The site is located at 7729 E. 146 St. (at River Rd.) and is zoned PUD/Planned Unit Development. Filed by Charlie Frankenberger of Nelson Frankenberger 3 S:/PlanCorontission/ Minutes /SpecStudyCmtteeMinutes/PC SS Cinttee Minutes 2011/SS -2011 jul05 Present for petitioner Jon Dobosiewicz, Land. Use Professional, Nelson and Frankenberger; Charlie Frankenberger, attorney, Nelson and Frankenberger Overview: Additional driveway from River Road to site was removed at request of Engineering Dept One point of ingress /egress to comer use block from River Road o One proposed driveway cut on 1 46 Street County Commissioner approval needed North elevation previously sign extended beyond the border area signage now fits within o South elevation is main entrance and faces fuel pump canopy parking area Ice merchandiser appears at bottom right of bldg on south elevation the merchandiser language will be removed Vent units were relocated into a "well" area and not visible Canopy details match the bldg All colors shown are identical with Carmel Drive Range Line Road Umbrellas will be all one color and NO signage Screen wall on north elevation has been excluded; screen wall extends the length of bldg, along the outdoor seating area to the dumpster There will be an enclosure with a wing wall that comes off the bldg, over to the sidewalk with a propane exchanger within the wall not visible from surrounding streets screen wall identical to wall surrounding dumpster enclosure Profile of gas canopy illustrated no signs on the canopy Tab 6 illustrates the light fixture bulb area extends below lamp and is not flush Committee to look at existing facility on Carmel Drive and Range Line Road option would be a goose- neck fixture Tab 8 shows the clearance bar Dept Comments, Alexia Donahue -Wold: Cannel Utilities Dept of Engineering will ensures high quality and level of protection a No bldg permit will be issued until all con6ents have been addressed Gas station is a permitted use with the PUD Forestry Dept has approved Iandscape plan Dept still working with petitioner on lighting North elevation facing 146 Street has fiber panels Dept would prefer real glass windows or spandrel or faux glass request committee consider o Dept recommends favorable consideration after all comments /concerns have been addressed C lee s C;_ all_ e. airmail-imam ex g o Fuel station only 1.9 acres on the 7 acre site Outside storage is not permitted Propane tanks pretty ugly No additional advertising panels necessary wording other than product Bike Parking? (in northeast corner of bldg adjacent to path Uncomfortable with project because of number of people /agencies who spoke against it at public hearing 9 Perhaps should not approve until City Engineer and head of Utilities have signed off Probably should not sign off until study completed No "red box" or outdoor merchandise all goes away Question was posed to City Engineer and head of Utilities if approved as is with no changes, would 4 S: /PlanCommission/ Minutes /SpecStudyCmtteeMinutes /PC SS Cmttee Minutes 201 1 /SS -201 I ju105 either have a problem with it? (Response: No) Important that this facility be done correctly none of this is within a one year time travel Experts in study answer to City Plan Commission, not petitioner irrelevant whether or not approval done before study or after important to get it done right Project can be killed by Utilities or City Engineer Mayor of community to the north would not have been part of remonstrance if he had known the fuel station was a permitted use Woody Rider in favor Any changes with design? (No) Remonstrance/Unfavorable: Matthew Klein, Exec. Director, Indpls Water Co. comments incorporated by reference, on file with Plan Commission Doug Zubanick, General Counsel, Greg Ewing Mr. Robinson, Church, Church, Hittrle Antrim representing Service Advisory Board opposed to this particular location and underground storage tanks and filling with petroleum products Committee Response Comments: Comments made by Indpls Water Co. are not appropriate Not within Plan Commission's purview to determine the use Current review is ADLS only use was ruled on 4 years ago Use will be determined by study and engineering utilities experts Plan Commission does not have capability to rule on points brought up by Indpls Water Motion: Kevin "Woody" Rider to send to Plan Commission with a positive recommendation motion died for lack of a second Motion: Sue Westerrneier to withhold decision until results of report are available motion died for lack of a second Motion re- stated: Kevin "Woody" Rider to send to Plan Commission with a positive recommendation, motion died for lack of a second. Motion: Kevin "Woody' Rider to return Turkey Hill to Plan Commission with No Recommendation, seconded by Nick Kestner. Motion approve 3 in favor, l oppos ed (Sue West ee Meeting adjourned at 7:10 pm .....ct........."— r Steve Strom ist, Chair erson mona Hancock, Secretary r 5 S:/PlanConunission/ Minutes /SpecStudyCmtteeMinutes/PC SS Cmttee Minutes 2011ISS -2011 ju105