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TAC 11/17/03
CARMEL CLAY
TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
November 19, 2003
REPRESENTING THE CITY OF CARMEL:
Bill Akers, Carmel Clay
Communications
Jim Blanchard, DOCS
Scott Brewer, DOCS Urban Forester
Angie Butler, Dept. of Community
Services
John Dobosiewicz, DOCS
Brooke Gajolonik, E911 Address
Coord.
Dick Hill, City Engineering
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County
Surveyor’s
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department
Mike McBride, City Engineering Attachments: Andy Kern
John South, Hamilton County Soil &
Water
Mark Westermeier, Carmel Clay Parks
Via e-mail: Andy Kern, Clay Township Regional Waste District
Page 3. Lakeside Park, Sec 1, Block A- Amenity Area
(Development Plan)
Page 4. Village of West Clay, Sections 10002 & 10003
(Secondary Plat and Construction Plans)
Page 6. Village of West Clay – Broccoli Bills Building
(Construction Plans)
Page 8. Lady Hamilton Estates, Lot 6-
Broad Horizons Montessori School
Page 9. Claybourne, Sec 2, Blk L- Amenity Area
(Development Plan)
Page 11. Carmel Science & Technology Park, Lots 11B & 11C:
Congressional Flex Space (Development Plan)
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Page 15. Tom Wood Subaru – Development Plan
Page 17. Briar Creek, Block 1, Lot 11: Aspen Prairie Homes
Page 18. Meridian Technology Center –
Corvasc Medical Office Bldg (Site Development Plan)
Page 21. Cherry Creek Estates, Section 3
(Secondary Plat and Construction Plans)
Page 23. Carey Addition, Lot 3 (Use Varinace)
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Carmel Science & Technology Park, Lots 11B & 11C:
Congressional Flex Space (Development Plan)
Filed by Mila Slepaya of Mid-States Engineering.
Representing the Petitioners:
John Hart, J.C. Hart Company
Todd May, J.C. Hart Company
Gary Nance, Nance Design
Lyndmila Slepaya, Mid-States
Chris Ried, Hoosier Contracting
Jeff Breeze,
Comes now Carmel Science and Technology Park. The applicant seeks to construct two
(2) buildings. The site is located at southwest 122nd Street and Congressional Boulevard.
The site is zoned M-3/Manufacturing.
HART: C. Ried has an office warehouse building off Carmel Drive and we are in
the 10401 building North Meridian. We are looking to build and relocated
our corporate headquarters and build some additional flex space.
NANCE: We are trying for this retro warehouse kind of look with a residential flare.
We are going for a different look for the north side.
HOYES: I sent a letter to Mila. I did not realize your storm water calcs are
preliminary. I would like to see a more extensive set. This falls in
Carmel’s jurisdiction.
WESTERMEIER: No comments.
BREWER: Is there any tree preservation on the site? You have some existing trees on
the north side and woods on the west.
HART: No, it is not part of the property. Just a very small part of the property is
on the fringe of the wooded area and the rest of that will remain the
ownership of Conseco.
BREWER: I noticed on the west side you did not list any plant material.
HART:That is due to the existing vegetation plant material.
BREWER: Are you going to take that out?
HART:Only what is in the development area.
BREWER: I will make a site visit. On your plant schedule you have listed twelve (12)
Ashes and there is a pest called the Emerald Ash Boer that is killing all
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species of Ash. I am advising people to plant other species. Locust is the
only other tree listed and you have twenty-two of those. I would like you
to break that up with another species. Our website has a list of
recommended street trees. Call out the planting details. The graphic
planting detail should read that the Root Flare should be planted at grade
level.
BLANCHARD: On building one (1), if you intend an access on the west end you
will need to add a walk way to the public way. Will there be any
elevators or basements?
HART: No.
BLANCHARD: Will you build both buildings at the same time?
HART: Yes.
BLANCHARD: Will you have a construction trailer?
HART: Yes.
BLANCHARD: You will need a Temporary Use application. Before a building
permit is issued a copy of the requirements and a copy of the
commercial permitting procedures will need to be filled out, signed
off and approved before scheduling a presubmittal meeting in our
office with G. Stahl.
HOYT: We would like to see a Knox Box on each building I sent Mila a letter to
that regard. I am assuming both buildings will be sprinkled?
HART:Yes.
HOYT: You need to set up a meeting to discuss the location of those hook-ups. We
will also ask that you purchase Knox Caps for the connections. What is
the height of the buildings?
BREEZE: Thirty-seven feet (37’) to the peek of the roof.
HOYT: Are they flat roofs?
BREEZE: No.
HOYT: Office portions are the 2-story open concept?
HART:Not yet determined. It will be case by case.
HOYT: We are going to ask you to supply two (2) more hydrants. One (1) to the
west of your entrance off 122nd Street and the grassy park curb island and
the other entrance off Congressional Boulevard. It looks like there is a
water line that runs along the bottom here to be placed in the northeast
corner of the grassy island. I do not think there is any water that runs
down Congressional. I guess you will have a fire alarm as well? If you
have a Grand Entrance that you use an Enunciator Panel for the other
buildings.
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HART:There are no common area entrances.
HOYT: Then we can go with the Fire Alarm Panel in the Fire Department Riser
Room. That being the case we would want an exterior entrance to the
Riser Room.
AKERS: How many tenants or suite numbers?
HART:Ten (10) or eleven (11) suites.
AKERS: Does each tenant have their own entrance into the building?
HART:Yes and there will be overhead doors and passage doors.
AKERS: Each building will have a significant address and each suite will have their
own numbers. How many suites in building two?
HART:A max of four (4) more likely one (1) or two (2).
HILL: Some general things, this job will require Board of Public Works approval
for curb cuts. Temporary construction entrance if it is different than a
permanent driveway location. Secondary plat will require Board of Public
Works approval if there is any right-of-way to be dedicated. We will be
looking for justification on three (3) entrances. Will you be looking for a
median break on City Center Drive?
HART:No.
HILL: So you are looking at right in and right out only on City Center?
HART:Yes.
HILL: We would like to see the City project included in the drawings.
MCBRIDE: You can contact our engineer for the road project and get an electronic file
and insert those into yours.
HILL: Would like to see right-of-way lines labeled. Sidewalk or pass one foot
(1’) inside the right-of-way line.
MILA: We think there is a utility conflict.
HILL: We would like to see flow elevations on the new swales. Need a multi-use
path specification of the drawings. We will provide that in our comment
letter.
BUTLER: No additional.
SOUTH: You need to show your construction limits. A couple of additions to your
construction sequence show inlet protection for the two existing inlets on
the site before construction starts. I recommend a silt fence around the
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entire site. I recommend the better inlet protection since you are
discharging offsite.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Just a follow up on the comment letter concerning some changes
that need to be made to the plan in terms of the half right-of-way
along City Center Drive, adjustments to the improvements to the
south as well as the provision of sidewalk and/or path along both
of those roadways. It would be good if a copy of the plans for the
City Center Drive as part of the development on approval process.
Dedication of right-of-way per the Thoroughfare Plan would be
required. It appears that the forty feet (40’) half along
Congressional is identified but there is a seventy feet (70’) half and
that parameter is going to require significant adjustments from the
south to the site plan. In addition to that, we need verification on
building height to calculate the building base landscape along the
front. Sidewalks are allowed to cut into that perpendicular to the
parking lot. Parallel sidewalk adjacent to the parking spaces would
not be allowed to encroach into that required front base landscape
area. The driveway to the south accessing the existing access road
I would like to see that cleaned up so it is design like a normal
driveway segment. Also like to see that northern edge of that
existing drive curb better traffic control along your site making
sure we do not have people dipping into that grass area off that
drive. You might also look at the southwest corner of the site again
to better define traffic control into the rear of the property.
Request was made for rear and side elevations as well as a cut
sheet for lighting fixtures with a 90-degree cut-off. Identify the
property lines and there is an area defined for a dumpster that
needs to be enclosed and we need the detail showing what it is
going to look like.
MCBRIDE: Just to interject, typically we do have and acquired right-of-way necessary
for the roadway project. With a road project we only acquire what is
necessary and consistent with the Thoroughfare Plan and Ordinance.
KERN: The District’s Project Specialist will distribute a comment letter regarding
this project. Revised plans need to be submitted. Building permits should
NOT be issued unless the District has issued connection permits.
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Tom Wood Subaru – Development Plan
Filed by Lawrence Lawhead of Barnes & Thornburg
Representing the Petitioners:
Michael Balay, BALAY ARCHITECTS
Mike Hoff, FALCON ENGINEERS
This particular item is incomplete due to technical difficulties.
Comes now Tom Wood Subaru - Development Plan. The applicant seeks to construct a
new auto sales building. The site is located at 3230 East 96th Street. The site is zoned
B-3/Business. We are moving it over to this lot and tearing down the existing but keeping
it a dealership.
HOYES: It is in the City of Carmel, no requirements.
BREWER: (Lost transmission)
BLANCHARD: (Lost transmission)
HILL / MCBRIDE: Sent comment letter. The City Engineer has not reviewed the
drawings or drainage calculations submitted for this project. We
reserve the right to provide additional comments upon review.
HOYT: Will the building have a fire suppression system installed? If so a meeting
would need to be set up to discuss the location of the fire department
connection.
BALAY: The building will be sprinklered and to contact Mike Balay of Balay
Architects to set up a meeting.
HOYT: We are requesting a Knox Box and Knox locking Fire Department
Connection Caps.
BALAY: A Knox Box will be installed. Please discuss the location with Mike
Balay.
HOYT: What is the height of the building and will the building have a basement?
BALAY: The building height is twenty-four feet (24’) and there is no basement.
HOYT: Will the building be equipped with a fire alarm system? If so, we are
requesting a remote enunciator be located at the main entrance of the
building.
BALAY: A fire alarm is scheduled. Please discuss the locations with Mike Balay.
AKERS: The same address will apply.
BALAY: Will we need to build a sidewalk/path?
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DOBOSIEWICZ: At a minimum you will need to build the approaches at your
entrance so the asphalt path to be constructed then you deal with
things in your department and put money into Escrow with them or
make a contribution.
BALAY: Should we go ahead and in that entrance drive to leave the curb
down…
DOBOSIEWICZ: Depress the curb so you do not have to tear out the curb later. But
that will be at the discretion of the City Engineer.
HILL: I notice you are putting in a new sign in the right-of-way. That will
require a permit from the City. We need storm pipe material length
and slope.
BALAY: Okay.
HILL: Show it on the plans. According to what you do, the curb cut will
be new construction to match the right-of-way pavement on 106th
Street? Go ahead and include the multi-use path.
MCBRIDE: No other comments.
BUTLER: No comments.
SOUTH: Revise the plans according to my comment letter.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Pursuant the approval of the Development Plan, the dedication of
additional right-of-way along 96th Street pursuant to the
Thoroughfare Plan is required. You will need to draw that up and
work through the Department of Engineering for dedication. I
believe it is a seventy-five feet (75’) half along 96th Street. That
fifty feet (50’) existing is identified. Respond with regard to that
issue of construction of the path I still want to see the depression at
the entrance. I do not have a detail of the ground sign.
BALAY: The General Manager has been on vacation.
DOBOSIEWICZ: If they have to have this number of signs to make this work then
they might want a site south of 96th Street because this will not be
acceptable to the Plan Commission or the Board of Zoning
Appeals. I would make a list of the signs that absolutely have to be
there. I told L. Lawhead the same thing. Is the owner to the east
the same owner as this parcel?
BALAY: Okay and yes.
DOBOSIEWICZ: There is a narrow distance between the new building edge and the
east property line. We do have control over what happens on the
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south side and I understand that is open to the asphalt area. I think
it would be appropriate if they could acquire an easement off the
property owner to the east to make sure they have adequate space
to access the rear property.
BALAY: Okay.
DOBOSIEWICZ: And a reminder to the property owner to the east they would
require to seek additional approvals when they remove or change
the signage from their existing dealership.
…END…
Briar Creek, Block 1, Lot 11: Aspen Prairie Homes
Filed by John Smeltzer of Bose McKinney & Evans LLP
Representing the Petitioners:
John Smeltzer, BOSE MCKINNEY & EVANS
Comes now Briar Creek, Block 1, Lot 11: Aspen Prairie Homes. The applicant seeks the
following Use Variance to operate an elder care home: V-113-03 #03110008 §6.1
permitted use. The site is located at 10495 Lakeshore Place. The site is zoned S-
2/Residential. There are no plans to be distributed. This is a residential home being used
for Elder Care. This home currently has four (4) individual within the home with two (2)
24-hour caregivers. There are no special needs concerning utilities. The caregivers park
their cars in the home. The individuals residing in the home range in age from 67-90
years of age.
HOYES: No comments.
BREWER: No comments.
BLANCHARD: No comments.
HOYT: No concerns.
AKERS: No comments.
HILL: No comments.
BUTLER: No additional.
SOUTH: No comments.
DOBOSIEWICZ: John you have been notified that although you have been
scheduled December 22, 2004 Plan Commission, it may be
cancelled or delay to January but you need to make the notice for
that December 22, hearing.
SMELTZER: I have sent notice out for the 22nd.
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Meridian Technology Center - Corvasc Medical Office Bldg
(Site Development Plan)
Filed by Mark Monroe of Drewry Simmons, Pitts & Vornehm for REI
Representing the Petitioners:
Mark Monroe, DREWRY SIMMONS PITTS & VORNEHM
Robert Doster, SCHNEIDER CORP
Toni Grimes, RATIO ARCHITECTS
David Young, RATIO ARCHITECTS
Comes now Meridian Technology Center – Corvasc Medical office building. The
applicant seeks approval to construct an office building. The site is located on the south
side of College Avenue, 1/8 mile east of Pennsylvania Street. The site is zoned B-
2/Business.
MONROE: The site itself contains four (4) acres of ground with building orientation
toward College Drive. It is a 3400 square feet two-story structure, no
basement and with parking to the west and south of the building. There is
a future expansion area to the north and east of the proposed building with
a parking expansion area southwest corner of the site. The building
elevations show mainly brick with some metal fascia.
HOYES: I sent a review letter November 12, 2003. Everything has been met except
the outlet permit.
BREWER: According to the Buffer Yard Requirements 26.4 you have only a third of
the trees you need. Also, I talked with R. Howe about species changes.
You have Ash on here and the Emerald Ash Borer is killing all Ash trees.
On the additional trees you need I recommend Native Oaks. On the
planting graphic detail the Root Flare is planted at grade level. Also there
are no planting notes or specifications, show those.
BLANCHARD: Is there an elevator?
GRIMES: Two (2).
BLANCHARD: You will need to contact Morris Hensley (317-571-2673) for a
Well permit. On future expansion all exits will require a walkway
to a public way. The office building discharge shall be illuminated
at all times. Will there be a construction trailer?
MONROE: More than likely.
BLANCHARD: That will require a Temporary Use application. Before a building
permit is issued a copy of the requirements and a copy of the
commercial permitting procedures will need to be filled out, signed
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off and approved before scheduling a presubmittal meeting in our
office with G. Stahl.
HOYT: I would like to sit down with you and discuss the placement of the
Fire Department connection. We request Knox Box and Knox
Equipment Caps. Will there be an alarm on the building?
MONROE: Yes, did you get my letter I faxed yesterday?
HOYT: No not yet. Is all this going in at the same time?
MONROE: All but the southwest corner.
AKERS: How many tenants on each floor?
MONROE: One (1) for the whole building.
HILL /
MCBRIDE: There is couple of bonding issues. Right-of-way bond for any work
done in the right-of-way. Like to see the right-of-way lines. We
would also like to see the Median and College Drive incorporated
and the opposing drive.
MONROE: It is there it just faded away.
HILL: Is there a Drainage Easement on this lot?
DOSTER: No, they have a Fiber Optic line that runs from the Conseco
campus over to building “K”. It runs about thirty (30) to forty (40)
feet into the property and across. It is just there. It is not in an
easement.
HILL: That off-site storm runs in that easement. Is that a dedicated
easement? Has it already been granted?
DOSTER: No, nothing has been granted. We could go through Americenter’s
property.
HILL: Assuming your own site is going to be private what about that
offsite?
DOSTER: I assume it will be Corvasc and ties into the IER office.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Can you provide verification that you have adequate offsite storm
capacity?
DOSTER: We did that in our storm calcs.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Assuming you have to have some type of approval granted by
them.
MONROE: We will look into that.
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HILL: Access in the southeast corner? That goes into a private drive I
assume, what is that?
MONROE: That is the connection to the parking lot for Conseco.
DOSTER: That is executed now? I assume you want a copy of the access
agreement?
HILL: The curb cut will require Board of Works approval. I would like
the locations of the sanitary sewer water mains and darken that
storm sewer data. Identify the storm pipe material and pipe and
describe where it is. Identify the dimension of the subsurface drain.
BUTLER: I will get you a review letter out this week.
SOUTH: The revisions you made will correct the problems.
DOBOSIEWICZ: I want to verify the setback of the proposed building from College
Drive right-of-way and that spec that we are asking for is a five (5)
feet asphalt path. That may have been concrete that was used
adjacent to the lot and I want to make sure it matches.
DOSTER: It is asphalt.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Provide a connection between the sidewalk or the asphalt path
along College Drive. At another sidewalk location the southeast
corner along the parking if you could take it out to the drive about
another thirty (30) feet but tie it in with the curb stopping at the
sidewalk. We need a detail for the dumpster enclosure. I suggest
that you prepare a current proposal for future expansion on your
landscape plan, proposed Phase I and proposed Phase II. Also, you
will need approval for the ground and the wall signs.
KERN: The District’s Project Specialist will distribute a comment letter
regarding this project. Revised plans need to be submitted.
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Cherry Creek Estates, Section 3
(Secondary Plat and Construction Plans)
Filed by William A. Bryant of Stoeppelwerth & Associates, Inc.
for Platinum Properties, LLC.
Representing the Petitioners:
Tim Walter, PLATINUM PROPERTIES
Christina Mowery, MITCHELL MARKETING GROUP
Bill Bryant, STOEPPLEWERTH
Comes now Cherry Creek Estates, Section 3 - Secondary Plat and Construction Plans.
The site is located on the east side of Hazel Dell Parkway north of Cherry Tree Road.
The site is zoned S-1/Residential – Low Intensity. This is Section 3, of Cherry Creek
Estates with thirty-eight (38) lots. The streets are a continuation from Section 1A and 1B.
HOYES: We have issue with the floodway. We will want to look at the construction
of the creek.
BRYANT: We have the Lowmar complete for Section 3.
BREWER: No landscape plans. I need plans.
HOYT: I sent a letter. Will there be an amenity building?
BRYANT: Not in this section, no.
HOYT: Would like to see additional hydrant location between lots 29 & 30 or 28
& 29.
AKERS: I will send you the addressing.
HILL /
MCBRIDE We need to get K. Weese’s final input.
BUTLER: No additional.
SOUTH: I sent a letter this morning. A couple of detail items. Is the floodway
Seeded?
WALTER: Yes, everything behind lots 164-167.
SOUTH: It looks like the construction entrance is out on existing Cherry Creek
Boulevard you should change that.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Is there common area north of Cherry Creek Boulevard?
WALTER: A twenty feet (20’) stripe of common area.
DOBOSIEWICZ: On the plat there is a small sliver is that…(interruption)
WALTER: We included that in Section 1A. Cinergy had to run their power.
DOBOSIEWICZ: So establish a twenty feet (20’) common area on the north side.
Monumentation the only place we need to see concrete is at the
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bearing change. On the Construction Plans how are the neck-
downs working out?
WALTER: The radius is large enough they can run their curb machine right
along Powder Drive.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Do we have one planned along Powder Drive? On the key map if
you could show the whole subdivision. Do you have a time
schedule on when we will see the other side of the creek?
WALTER: Spring.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Will the Lomar address any…(interruption)
WALTER: No, we put it in Section 2 earthwork.
DOBOSIEWICZ: But is it on the plans?
WALTER: Yes.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Did we get all of our answers on the proximity of the boulders at
the entryway?
WALTER: Yes.
HILL: I passed on the information.
DOBOSIEWICZ: Is the Lomar going to be approved?
WALTER: On the Primary Plat we talked about the connection with Spring
Creek entrance. Getting rid of that little bit of Cherry Tree Road. I
met with the homeowner and he is going to talk to an
appraiser/realtor for the value of his property.
DOBOSIEWICZ: If you cannot come to terms with him I would encourage the City
to get involved to make that happen. Set up a meeting with K.
Weese after you get further along with him and we can discuss the
paving plan.
WALTER: He will need to connect to the sewer because we will be taking out a third
(1/3) of his finger system.
HILL: I have comments on Section 2. Soil issues have we received any revisions
to that?
WALTER: You should get them early next week. W had to make changes due to
water table issues. Swale and grading comments are currently being
addressed.
BREWER: On the south side of Hazel Dell are you going to add that d-cell turn lane
is there any other timing on that?
WALTER: That was planned for Section 2, spring or early summer.
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BREWER: I just wanted to make sure I did not have to move those trees this fall.
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Carey Addition, Lot 3 (Use Variance)
Filed by Jan Long and Christina Mowery for Two Sisters, LLC
Representing the Petitioners:
Comes now Carey Addition, Lot 3. The applicant also seeks a Use Variance to allow an
office building. The site is located at 110 3rd Avenue North East. The site is zoned R-
2/Residential within the Old Town Overlay Zone, Character Sub-district. Proposal to
operate an office. The only home is the lodge right of us, the parking lot and a retail on
2nd Avenue. We would like to use the home as our marketing business. But now we want
to get a legal sign on the outside of the house.
HOYES: No comments.
HOYT: Is this the old Christy property?
PETITIONER: No.
HOYT: Is there a basement?
PETITIONER: Yes.
HOYT: This is subject to an inspection for fire extinguishers.
AKERS: No comment.
HILL: No additional. Do you have parking planned?
PETITIONER: We have a driveway with only three cars parking in it.
SOUTH: No comments.
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