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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 09-21-99CAR.~[EI. JCLAY PLAN COMIVIISSION SEPTE~IBER 21, 1999 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Carmel/Clay Plan Commission met at approximately 7:00 PM on September 21, 1999 in the Council Chambers of City Hall, One Civic Square, Carmel, Indiana. Members present were: Marilyn Anderson; Kent Broach; David Cremeans: Leo Dierckman; Madeline Fitzgerald; Ron Houck; Norms Meighen; Bob Modisen; James T. O~Neal, Sr.; Pat Rice; Rick Sharp; Paul Spranger; Chris White; and Tom Yedlick. Steve Engelking, Director; Michael Hollibaugh, Terry Jones, and Laurence Lillig were present representing the Department of Community Services. The minutes of the August meeting were approved as submitted. F. Legal Counsel Report John Molitor reported that the Ordinance containing a variety of technical corrections and updates was presented to the City Council earlier this month and no adverse comments. The Ordinance will have second reading at a future date. Also, the PUD proposal from Buckingham on Old Meridian was approved today by the City Council (unanimously.) G. Reports, Announcements, and Department Concerns Dave Cremeans reported that a letter had been sent to the Hamilton County Council over his signature and funding for the highway improvements in western Clay Township were approved as requested. Dave Cremeans announced that the Duke Rezone, 14-99Z, and the Thoroughfare Plan Amendment, Docket No. 84-98 CPA, have been TABLED to the October meeting. John South, Hamilton County Soil & Water Conservation, appeared ::efore the Commission and invited the members to a tour and discussion of a variety of conservation issues fi.om wellhead protection, new EPA regulations, erosion control, wetlands, and other items on October 14, 1999. Public l~Iearing: Note: Items Ih and 2j ~vere heard together. lh, Commission to consider Docket No. 70-99 DP/ADLS, Development ?tan and Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, & Signage applications for Park Place Centre, LLC. The petitioner seeks approval to construct 14 professional o~ce buildings s:'£1ancomm~Minutes\ 1999September I and condominium suites to be known as Park Place Centre on 7.393 acres. The site is located on the northeast corner of Adams Street and West Carmel Drive on Block 2 of the Carmel Science & Technology Park. The site is zoned M=3/Manufacmring. Filed by Adam DeHart of Keeler-Webb Associates. 2j. Commission to consider Docket No. 71-99 S.P., Secondary Plat application for Park Place Centre, LLC. The petitioner seeks approval to plat two lots to be known as Park Place Centre on 7.393 acres within the Carmel Science & Technology Park. The site is located on the northeast comer of Adams Street and West Carmel Drive. Th site is zoned M-3fManufacturing. Filed by Adam DeHart of Keeler-Webb Associates. Adam DeHart of Keeler-Webb Associates, Gradle Drive, Carmel appeared before the representing FCC Development Corp. Frank Cosmos and Steve Ponsler of Park Place Centre LLC were also in attendance. The project will consist of 14 individual structures designed and aligned so that the entire facility will be treated as a business park. There will be two different building design sizes; one size with 9600 square feet, containing up to 8 units, and 7200 square feet containing up to 6 units. The development is a commercial office project that falls under the Indiana Horizontal Property Regime, and will be owned as condominiums and operated by businessmen and women of the community. It is anticipated that medical related facilities will occupy these units. The individual units will consist of 1200 square feet and will average 3 to 4 tenants in each structure. Each unit is provided with common area access through hallways and stairwells and they are all two-story structures. The facilities, including signage, are oriented toward the interior of the project as well as tenant signage. Parking facilities are located within the interior. The covenants and restrictions go into great detail as to how the owners' association will function, the parking allowed for each one, and the restrictions on signage for each individual facility. A buffer and transition yard has been provided along the entire north perimeter abutting the Arbors. with interior canopy trees for the interior parking lot and additional landscaping along the streetscape. The additional landscaping functions as a visual buffer for the parking and gaps between the buildings that accommodate air conditioning equipmem and gas meters. The doorway entrances face toward the interior of the park rather than towards Adams Street and Carmel Drive. The drainage is completely self-contained within the site. There is access to storm sewers along Adams Street and Carmel Drive where the storm water is collected and deposited in those areas. Sanitary Sewers are provided by Clay Waste Regional District s 5Plancomm,3,1inmes\1999September 2 along Adams Street and Carmel Drive. Construction documents have been submitted to Clay Regional for final review and approval. It is intended to make two small sanitary sewer extensions imo the site to service the 14 buildings. Also, a water service main will be extended into the center pan of the site and fire hydrant locations are being provided within the landscape islands. The interior of the lot will be provided with lighting as submitted in the packets; the buildings will have coach lights at the entrance. The same coach light will be used as an entrance type light similar to some of the lights proposed to be installed with the Carmel Drive Streetscape on ten toot poles located at the end of the subdivision type entrance and adjacent to the mail box structure. The remainder of the site will have shoebox-type, pole lighting. The entry sign will consist of a four foot masonry sign on either side of the entrance, identifying "Park Place Centre." A ground-mounted sign is being provided at the comer of Carmel Drive and Adams Street that matches the masonry sign with stone face, name and logo of Park Place Centre. The buildings will have individual addresses in a stone set in the front facade of the structure over the central door. In addition, a small directory sign will be located in front of each structure in the foundation planting area. The pendant sign being proposed requires a variance. The pendant sign matches the architectural style of the building and also assists in flow of the traffic in and around the parking lot area so that visitors can readily locate the individual tenants, (one sign per tenant.) The petitioner is requesting Development Plan and .M)LS approval for the entire facility. The plat will include the floor plans and the facilities. The secondary plat will divide the site; lot 2 will consist of 4.9 of the 7.3 acres. The division of the site is being done in conjunction with the City Center Drive right-of-way. The remainder, lot 3, will not be platted until City Center Drive is installed and the petitioner will be appearing before the Commission for approval of the secondary re-plat. The petitioner is dedicating I0 feet of right-of-way along Carmel Drive for the use of the Streetscape and the bike path plan for the City. The petitioner is in the process of working out the alignment so as not to interfere with trees and utilities. A 5 foot concrete walk is being provided along the north side of Adams Street. ~ operational traffic analysis was provided.to the Department just today. The conclusions of the report related that this site will generate traffic in the neighborhood of I70 trips in a peak condition. The entrance has been located at the apex ora curve so that sight distance can be maximized both to Carmel Drive and to the east. The entrance has been designed to handle a large amount of traffic. Once the City Center Drive is installed, Adams Street will basically function as a local collector for both the Park Place Centre site and a shortcut for those persons who live in the Arbors, and those people who operate out of the Blockbuster facility and Lot 7. s:~PlancommkMinutes~,1999Septem be r 3 Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the proposed development; no one appeared and the public hearing was closed. Terry Jones reported that the Traffic Report was received today and the Department has not yet had an opportunity to review it. The Department is recommending that this item proceed to the Special Study Committee for review. Docket Nos. 70-99 DP/ADLS and 71-99 SP for Park Place Centre LLC was referred to the Special Study Committee that will meet October 5 in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall at 7:00 PM. 2h. Commission to consider Docket No. 72-99 DP/ADLS, Development Plan and Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, & Signage applications for Moench Engineering. The petitioner seeks approval to construct a retail oil lube service station on 1.39 acres known as Valvoline Oil Lube. The site is located at 10400 North Michigan Road on Lot 15 of the Park Northwestern Subdivision. The site is zoned I-l/Industrial and is located within the U.S. 421 (Michigan Road) Overlay Zone. Filed by Brian Moench of Moench Engineering. Nicholas Quintana of Sebree & Assoc., Architects, appeared before the Commission along with Brian Moench, Engineer, and Don Berger, owner. The petitioner is seeking approval to construct an oil lube service station at 10400 North Michigan Road within the U.S. 421 Overtay Zone. The lower level of the building will be brick and dryvit, the roof will be shingled with a high pitch; all colors will be similar to existing buildings in the immediate area such as Marsh and Donato's Pizza. There is no signage on the building. All parking is to the rear of the building as well as stacking for the service bays. The exit doors of the facility face Michigan Road. Most of the property contains a pipeline easement that restricts the amount of property for use. There are street trees along the front of the building. Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the proposed project; no one appeared and the public hearing was dosed. Terry Jones reported that this project did pose some interesting difficulties within the 421 Overlay requirements. It is recommended that the orientation of the building be reviewed further by the Committee. Rick Sharp asked about the landscap'ing and if there were any outstanding Technical Advisory Committee issues. Terry Jones responded that depending upon the placement of the building and the angle in relation to 42 I, screening the overhead doors could be an issue; landscaping is a possibility for screening the "front load" doors in reiafion to the 421 Ordinance. s:LPlanco minx.Minutes\ 1999September 4 Brian Moench of Moench Engineering reported that there is adequate stacking to the rear of the building that will accommodate 3 cars deep. The entire premise of the Oil Lube is to move cars quickly through the system and no large stacking requirement is anticipated. The proposal does meet the ordinance. Rick Sharp asked that the petitioner consider doing something decoratively with the overhead doors, especially the ones fronting 421, and also consider "beefing up" the landscaping on the south side of the property so as to screen the stacking area from north bound traffic. These two items will be discussed at the Special Study Committee. There was discussion as to whether or not parking would be allowed on the pipeline and if parking areas could be grassy areas or gravel rather than asphalt or concrete. According to the Ordinance, parking areas and drive areas within a project are requked to be not only paved but curbed, and a variance would be required. The ordinance does not allow "pavers" to offset a parking requirement without a variance. The parking of ears on grass is preferable to orienting the building in an undesirable location. The location of the trash container and appropriate screening was also a question. These points will be pursued at Committee. Docket No. 72-99 DP/ADLS, Valvoline Oil Lube, was referred to the Special Study Committee that will meet Tuesday, October 5, 1999 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall. NOTE: Items 3h and 4h were heard together. 3h. Commission to consider Docket No. 76-99 CA, Commitment Amendment application for Browning Investments, Inc. The petitioner is requesting to te,wninate the 1991 Commitments Concerning the Use and Development of Real Estate. The site is located in the 10900 block of North Pennsylvania Street. The site is zoned B-6/Business and is within the U.S. 31 (Meridian Street) Overlay Zone. Filed by Greg Snelling of Mid-States Engineering, LLC. 4h. Commission to consider Docket No. 77-99 DP/ADLS, Development Plan and .4zchitectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, & Signage applications for Browning Investmems, Inc. The petitioner seeks approval for two corporate office buildings totaling 108,200 square feet on 8.08 acres. The site is located in the 10900 block of North Pennsylvania Street. The site is zoned B-6/Business and is within the U.S. 31 (Meridian Street) Overlay Zone. Filed by Greg Shelling of Mid-States Engineering, LLC Jim Nelson. attorney, 3663 Bramley Way, Carmel. appeared before the Commission representing Browning Investments, Inc. Also present were .ramie Browning of Browning Investments and Oreg Snelling of Mid-States Engineering. s:~Plancomm .\[inutesx 1999September 5 The subject site is located south and east of the intersection U.S. 31, 111 Street, and the Delta Faucet Corporate headquarters. This parcel is zoned B-6/Business and lies partially within the U.S. 31 Overlay Zone. The Development Plan does include two office buildings; however, the current request is for a single office building on the northern half of the parcel. A set of plans has also been presented to the Greater Home Place Homeowners Association for their review. The adjacent uses: To the west is Pennsylvania Street and the Delta Faucet corporate headquarters; to the north is a facility occupied by the Indiana Developmental Training Center; to the east is the Pleasant Grove Methodist Church and a small park; to the south is the northern end of a residential subdivision accessible by I06~h Street. Existing Conditions: The real estate lies partially within the U.S. 31 Overlay Zone. The Indiana Pipeline dissects the real estate in a northeasterly/southeasterly direction. In the northwest comer of the property is a dry detention/retention area that serves both this parcel and the parcel to the north. The petitioner's plans provide for this becoming a lake for a retention area. There is a mature stand of trees that straddle the property line on both the east and south, providing a natural separation between the real estate and the homes to the south. Future conditions involve Pennsylvania Street and the City's plans to widen, extend and resurface Pennsylvania Street. History of the Real Estate: In 1987, this parcel together with the one to the north contained 20 acres, was zoned B-7, and it was owned by Browning Investments. In 1989, the northern 10 acre parcel was rezoned to B-6 by PIA Indianapolis, Inc. (Psychiatric Institute of America) for an 80 bed treatment facility. Since that time, this facility has been occupied by Charter and now by Indiana Developmental Training Center. In 1991, the parcel to the south was re-classified to B-6 at the request of PIA to provide for a 40 bed residential treatment center to serve as an expansion of their hospital at that time. The current Development Plan consists of two corporate office buildings, (constructed in v,vo phases), a parking lot and lake. The total square footage of the buildings computes to I08,200. There are 494 parking spaces being provided; 361 are required. The buildings will be three stories, 63 feet, 10 inches in height to the tower. The exterior materials consist of architectural precast panels and columns, clear aluminum anodized finish with PPG "solex" tinted glass. The headers are dark gray stone, the facade will be buff and warm gray. Ihe signage consists of one, precasv'orushed stainless steel, 40 square feet in size, 12 inches in height. The parking lot lighting consists of 27 pole fixtures, 30 feet in height. There is additional lighting on the building and pathway illumination for safety. A formal landscape plan has been submitted to the Department. sSPlancomm Minutes\ 1999Septeraber 6 Docket Nos. 76-99 CA and 77-99 DP/ADLS for Browning Investments, Inc. were referred to the Special Study Committee that will meet October 5 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall. I. Old Business: Ii. Docket No. 84-98 CPA, Thoroughfare Plan Amendment. TABLED 2i. Docket No. 14.99 ~ for DUke Realty Investments;'~ TABLED BY ~ PETITIONER 3i. Commission to consider Docket No. 57-99 DP/ADLS, a Development Plan and Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, & Signage application for Max & Erma's Restaurants, Inc. The petitioner seeks approval to construct a 7,744 square foot restaurant facility on 1.6 acres. The site is located near the southeast corner of East 126th Street and Meridian Street within the Hamilton Crossing East Complex. The site is zoned B-3/Business and is located within the U.S. 31 (Meridian Street) Overlay Zone. Filed by Philip A. Nicely of Bose McKinney & Evans LLP. Philip Nicely of Bose McKinney & Evans appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. Christopher Holgate of Max & Erma's was also in attendance. Approval is being requested to construct a restaurant facility in the Hamilton Crossing East Complex within the U.S. 31 Overlay Zone. This project has had public hearing and review by the Special Study Committee. There was much discussion at the Committee level concerning the size of the restaurant, the aesthetics, and the neon band at the top of the building. The petitioner stated that even though the building is 7,744 square feet, it appears as a much larger facility because of the height; however, the petitioner did agree to eliminate the green neon band at the top of the building. There was further discussion regarding the possibility of connecting the restaurant to the neighboring Hampton Inn. To require a connection with the hotel at this point would be a major undertaking, financially and from I/time standpoint, to revise the plans. The petitioner has had a conversation with Gary Schahet of the Hampton Inn--The Hampton Inn would not approve any type of connection between the two buildings..Mong that same line, Max & Erma's would also prefer not to be associates with the hotel and be thought of as serving "hotel food." The petitioner did a~ee to install paver blocks on the walkway between the restaurant and hotel as well as "beefing up" the landscaping adjacent to the walkway. The petitioner is also seeking three Developmental Standards Variances from the Board of Zoning Appeals. s:~lancomm,Minutcs\ 1999September 7 There was discussion regarding deferring voting on this Docket until afrer the Board of Zoning Appeals has ruled on the Variances. Rick Sharp referred to Duke's plans for 96th Street and Meridian to Springmill, and the proposal for 100% retail and two, free-standing restaurants, probably non-conforming in size to the US 31 Overlay. Rick was concerned that the Plan Commission's approval of Max & Erma's would be either establishing a precedent for the US 31 Overlay Zone or it would be used as an argument, assuming that the rezone goes through and the variances as to use, and minimum building size within the US 31 Overlay Zone are approved by the BZA. Also, a prior commitment was made to connect Meridian Corners fi.om Carmel Drive to 131= Street. To date, the construction of this link has not yet begun, and the status is in question. Phil Nicely responded that the plans on the connection have been prepared and will development will proceed rapidly, however, there is some question as to a commitment by the City to install a wall down Meridian Coruers, i.e. how it is to be constructed, and how it is to be funded. Phil Nicely stated that the proposed development is not seen as setting a precedent. The proposal was submitted as a total development--it is not an isolated building or situation. The proposal was submitted at the time 15% was 15% of the total development and not 15% ora building. The ordinance was passed subsequently. The petitioner has gone above and beyond to ensure a quality development and enhance the qualky and spirit of the U.S. 31 corridor Overlay Zone. Terry Jones reported that there had been a meeting with the residents of West Park and the City Engineer--the wall issue was brought up as well as the construction of the road. Apparently there is some confusion as to the timing of construction, etc. Terry undertook to get an answer to Rick Sharp. In response to questions from Pat Rice, Christopher Holgate stated that it was not desirable to provide a functional second story because of handicap access, wait staffup and down stairs, and the economics would not allow the installation of an elevator. Windows have been incorporated to give the building a second floor feel, but it is not a functional second story. Ron Houck moved for the approval of Docket No. 57-99 DP/ADLS, Max & Erma's Restaurant, subject to design changes presented this evening. There were comments fi'om Rick Sharp stating no objection with a Max & Erma's; the problem is with the Variances requested. If this product were anywhere other than the Overlay Zone, it would be perfect. There is a need for an amenity node, but somewhere other than fronting on the corridor. Mr. Sharp was adamant that this Docket should have been tabled until after a vote by the Board of Zoning Appeals. Docket No. 57-99 DP/ADLS, Max & Erma's Restaurant, was APPROVED 9 in favor, Marilyn Anderson, Dave Cremeans, Madetine Fitzgerald, Pat Rice, and Rick Sharp opposed. s:~lancomm~Minutes\1999September 8 $. New Business Ii. Commission to consider Docket No. 69-99 ADLS, Architectural Design, Landscaping Lighting, and Signage Amendment application for Knead Bread, LLC. The petitioner seeks approval to construct a patio on the aorth side of Panera Bread. The site is located at the north end of Merchants' Square, Building I, at 2476 East 1164 Street. The site is zoned B-8/Business. Filed by Phil O'Connell of Knead Bread, LLC. Peter Dubin, architect with Mann, Gin, Dubin & Frazier, 200 South Michigan Avenue, Chicago, Illinois appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. Also in attendance was Philip O'Connell of Knead Bread, owner of the franchisee, Panera Bread. Approval is being sought for a 900 square foot concrete patio located at the north end of the Panera Bread Bakery/Caf6 in Building I of Merchants Square. The landscaping around the patio is designed to harmonize with the existing landscaping in Merchants Square. Several Honey Locust trees, White Flowering Crabapple, and White Flowering Weeping Cherry Trees will surround the patio in conjunction with several species of small shrubs and ground cover. There is also a black, steel bar stock railing with stainless steel cables around the patio that visually allows the landscaping into the patio area. The patio will incorporate wrought iron tables with umbrellas and chairs that will further define the patio area. Terry Jones reported that the Department had no problem with the patio as presented. In response to questions from Madeline Fitzgerald, Mr. Dubin reported that the umbrellas are burgundy/maroon/khaki colors--corporate colors of Panera Bread. Small white lettering spells out the "Panera" name. Terry, Jones stated that if the lettering is under three square feet, it is an incidental sign and no permk is required. Phil O'Connetl commented that the patio area will seat 50 persons, and a maximum of 7 umbreallas for a touch of color. The petitioner installed additional asphalt to facilitate drainage of the patio area and worked with the Linder group for an upscale, added value to the complex. Pat Rice was opposed to the lettering on the umbrellas and stressed that the Commission must be consistent in its requests and requirements. Rick Sharp moved for the approval of Docket No. 69-99 ADLS, Panera Bread. Rick Sharp amended his motion for approval to prov/de that the umbrellas in the outer seating area will not contain lettering. APPROVED 14-0. s:~!ancomm,Minutes\ t 999Septcraber 9 Commission to consider Docket No. 78-99 ADLS Amend., Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, and Signage Amendment application for 12400 North Old Meridian Street LLC. The petitioner seeks approval to construct a one-story, multi-tenant, professional office building totaling 21,750 square feet on 2.43 acres within the Carmel Science & Technology Park. The site is located at 12401- 12415 Old Meridian Street. The site is zoned M-3/Manufacturing. Filed by Adam DeHart of Keeler-Webb Associates. Adam Del-lan of Keeler-Webb Associates, 486 Gradle Drive, Carmel, appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. A color rendering was distributed to each Commission member. The presence of a legal drain easement on the parcel reduces the useable area on the site by approximately one acre and creates a site with an angle both facing perpendicular and parallel to Old Meridian and angled facing away from it. The existing drainage ditch was installed to accommodate drainage under an old bridge structure underneath Old Meridian and serviced the mobile home/trailer park across the street that has since been vacated, and storm water drainage for the remainder of Carmel Science & Technology Park and the Meijer Shopping Center. The design of the site, including access and use, has taken into consideration the Old Meridian Corridor Task Force's recommendations. The petitioner has agreed to the installation of sidewalks along Old Meridian and interior walkways for use by the neighbors to the north and the persons in the proposed professional building in Block 17. The proposed development will have the "Old Tome" appeal with the buildings towards the front of the site and the majority of parking to the rear. The plan also provides for landscaping. The single row of parking to the front is landscaped along the perimeter and the interior of the lot with foundation plantings. The overall site design encourages open space pursuant to the recommendations of the Old Meridian Corridor Task Force. The drainage ditch and easement incorporates existing landscaping; the petitioner will also be increasing the landscaping in this area. At the request of the Hamilton County Surveyor's Office, the petitioner has committed to landscape the ditch area and it will be maintained by a partnership between the owners of the property and the petitioner. Also in attendance was Mr. J'effWorretl with Advantage Medical Terry Jones reported that petitioner appeared before the committee on the amendment issues. Initially, the building was two-story. Rick Sharp reported that the Committee had requested a more substantial presentation be made to the Commission as a whole. The proposed changes were substantial and it was deemed appropriate that the entire Commission look at the amendments. s:~Plancomm'_Minutes\ 1999September !0 Leo Dierckman recommended that the petitioner be sent back to the Special Study Committee for further review before a vote by the entire Commissioner. Kon Houck moved for the return of Docket No. 78-99 ADLS, Amend. to the Special Study Committee for further review~ Rick Sharp commented that there were really no huge issues with the exception of a lack of quality information. There was no detail and no color render/ng. What is presented this evening is consistent with what was previously approved. Rick Sharp did not feel that there was any benefit in returning this to Committee. Ron Houck then withdrew his motion to return this Docket to Committee. Rick Sharp moved for the approval of Docket No. 78-99 ADLS Amend., 12400 North Old Meridian Street LLC. APPROVED 13 in favor, Leo Dierckman opposed. Rick Sharp asked the Department about the holdup on the Meijer project. It was Mike Hollibaugh's feeling that there was no huge issue, it is just a matter of doing the same due diligence as is done on all other projects. Meijer has not been treated any differently. There were further comments by Steve Engelking; Meijer will have a review letter probably within one week. Nonna Meighen asked if any procedure had changed because the petitioners were not showing samples of building materials and paint palettes. Terry Jones stated that there was never really a requirement, but it was the petitioner's choice to put their best foot forward and bring in samples for informational purposes. If the Commission would like to see this type of submission, the Rules of Procedure should reflect that requirement. lohn Molitor made comments to the Commission regarding the Overlay Zone Ordinance and to what extent the Commission would be allowed to grant waivers of those standards. Under the ROSO, the Commission can waive numerical standards up to 35% when considering a ROSO project. The Max & Erma's project was almost a 50% waiver of our Developmental Standards for a 15,000 square foot building. The Council may not be comfortable allowing the Commission the authority to grant waivers of 50%. The petitioner also has the right to petition the BZA for a Variance from anything in the Ordinance. The Commission can ask that the BZA decision be given prior to the public hearing before the Plan Commission--this could be considered in a Rules of Procedure change. This could be discussed at the next Executive Committee. There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned at 9:45 PM. Ramona Hancock, Secretary David A. Cremeans, President s:kPIancomm~Minutes\ 1999September l I