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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 5-11-99CARMEL/CLAY PLAN COMMISSION UNOFFICIAL MINUTES SPECIAL STUDY COMMITTEE SPECIAL SESSION MAY 11, 1999 The Special Session of the Special Study Committee was called to order by Rick Sharp, Chairman, at approximately 7:00 PM in the City Court Room, City Hall, One Civic Square, Carmel, Indiana. Committee members present were: Madeline Fitzgerald; Kevin Kirby; Bob Modisett; James T. O'Neal, Sr.; Pat Rice; Rick Sharp; Paul Spranger; and Dave Cremeans, ex- officio. Steve Engelking, Director, and Mark Monroe were in attendance representing the Department of Community Services. Items 1 and 2, Dockets 24-99 DP/ADLS and 25-99 PP/SP for BK Partners, were tabled at the request of the petitioner. Item 3. Committee to consider Docket No. 30-99 DP/ADLS, Development Plan and Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, and Signage applications for the C&C Realty Company. The petitioner seeks approval to construct a 62,500 square foot office and warehouse complex on 5 acres. The site is located on the west side of Michigan Road, one-eighth mile north of 96 Street. The site is zoned I-I/Industrial and is located partially within the Michigan Road (US 421) Overlay Zone. (Petitioner may also be appearing before the Board of Zoning Appeals for consideration of Developmental Standards Variances.) Filed by Reed Carlson of the C&C Realty Company. Reed and Stephanie Carlson appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. The property was initially purchased in 1969--the development was updated in 1997-98 with Mansard roofs, storefront windows, new signage, etc. /he petitioner is seeking approval for the construction of I0,000 square feet of office/warehouse/retail to the front, and another 45,000 square feet of storage space to the rear. The petitioner has added a three foot berm structure with landscaping in order to screen the storage space from view. There are three curb cuts on the property. The exterior of the storage building is concrete block with metal, corrugated roof. Mark Monroe referred to a memo from the Department dated May 11th reciting eight items that are deficient in the proposed development, most of which can be addressed by either revised plans or by filing for a standards variance. There were questions from the committee in regard to the landscaping in the development. There is a requirement for the number of trees to be planted; landscaping is to be to the front of the building with perimeter plantings. The architectural style will be s:',committees~spst 1999may I 1 I Georgian with cedar shake shingles on the new buildings. The height of the buildings is an issue. Parking spaces are to be located to the inside of the facility. The Petitioner agreed to work closely with the Department in regard to landscaping. The petitioner will return to the June 1" committee meeting. Item 4. Glenwood, LLC. The petmoner seeks appro~o rezone less than one acre from R: 3/Residence to B-I/Business. This site is located at 10820 North College Avenue. The si~e~i~cu~en!Jy~ zoned R-3~esidence. Doug Floyd, attorney, 970 Logan Street, Noblesville, appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. The petitioner is operating a medical service laboratory in an area designated R-3fResidence. The Department stated that the proposed (or existing) business use does not meet the criteria of the Comprehensive Plan. There is not adequate buffering between the business and residential neighborhood; it is not near another community facility; there are no sidewalks or pedestrian facilities; the building fronts on College, a secondary arterial. There are a number of limitations to a business in this particular area. The existing businesses in the area have been approved by Variance through the Board of Zoning Appeals. Kevin Kirby brought up the possibility of applying Central Business Standards such as those in the Old Towne area. There are commercial properties in the area. Mr. Kirby commented that he would lean towards rezoning the property. At present, there is no sign on the building identifying it as a business. Mark Monroe responded that the businesses in Old Towne were rezoned from Main Street north, on both sides of the street. However, there are still residences in the area. Pat Rice commented that she was not in favor ofrezoning the property when there is no plan in place. Mark stated that it makes some sense, with proper control, to rezone all the properties on both sides of the street from 106th Street north on College Avenue, with proper access, drainage, buffering, etc. to probably 111th Street. Jim O2qeal stated that he would like to see sidewalks installed in the Home Place area. Dave Cremeans stated that the public service buildings, i.e. the fire department, the Government Center, the Clay West Library & Museum, do not change the character of the area to business--these are public service buildings and not commercial. Madeline Fitzgerald commented that she had a problem with "spot rezoning." s:\committees\spst 1999may 11 2 Jim O~eal moved to Table Docket No. 31-99 Z, rezone application for Glenwood, LLC until such time as the Plan Commission can study applying the Central Busine~ Standards and classifications to College Avenue fi.om 106 Street north to 111 Street and beyond. APPROV~I) 6-0. Mark Monroe reported that the Blockbuster facility does not conform to the existing businesses within Merchants Square--the awnings do not match. Pat R.ice asked if there were some guidance criteria in the standards of illumination. Jim O2q'eal asked if anything could be done regarding the vacant property north of the Cost Plus Maker and opposite the Old Navy Store; the property is very unkempt and is an eyesore to the rest of the area. The Department will write a letter requesting clean-up. Item 8. Committee to consider Docket No. 84-98 CPA, proposed amendments to the Carmel/Clay Comprehensive Plan, specifically Chapter 6, the Thoroughfare Plan. Filed by the Plan Commission. Dave Cremeans reported that he was getting some telephone calls regarding I40 feet of right-of-way fi.om some persons who have owned land for some time in Clay West where there is no right-of-way. In conversations with the Department and doing some personal computations, 100 feet of right-of-way will allow for a nice, four-lane road with a grassy median and a sidewalk on either side. Kevin Kirby commented that the "role of thumb" today is 120 feet for a four-lane road; this will sufficiently allow for utilities. Paul Spranger brought up turning radius for trucks at intersections. Currently the specifications allow for "WB 20." Paul Spranger proposed that the specifications for turning radius be reduced to WB 15 in all residential areas of the township unless there are commercial areas immediately adjacent to the intersections. These intersections are: 96* Street and Springmill north to 146th Street, and Springmill to Michigan Road. It was the consensus of the Committee that a formal letter should be sent to the Hamilton County Commissioners requesting the change in turning radius fi.om WB 20 to WB 15; this would be in the form ora resolution. The letter will be initiated by the Special Study Committee with the full support of the Plan Commission (at its meeting on Tuesday, May 18, 1999. Rick Sharp, Committee Chairman Ramona Hancock, Secretary s:\comminees\spst 1999may 11 3