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Special Meeting
Wednesday, October 13, 2004
The special meeting of the Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals met at 7:30 PM on Wednesday, October 13,
2004 in the Council Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana. The meeting opened with the Pledge of
Allegiance.
Members in attendance were Leo Dierckman, James Hawkins, Madeleine Torres and Charles Weinkauf,
thereby establishing a quorum. Jon Dobosiewicz and Mike Hollibaugh represented the Department of
Community Services. John Molitor, Legal Counsel, was also present.
Mr. Dobosiewicz gave the Department Report. He stated there was a Memo before the Board dated
October 13, 2004 from the Department of Community Services. There was a previous submittal
requesting the Board to suspend or amend their Rules of Procedure. That document is being replaced by
the proposal before the Board with regard to the conduct of the Public Hearing. The Department is asking
one change to the proposal before it is considered. Under Items 2 and 3, the Department would like that
one-hour time frame split in half, giving 30 minutes for each party.
Mr. Molitor gave the Legal Report. He had drafted an earlier Rule whic. h was lengthier. He was unable to
achieve consensus among the parties. He would recommend that the Board adopt the simplified Rule that
the Department has suggested for the Board, with the exception that under Item 6 to substitute that each
party shall proceed with cross examination of witnesses of the other parties immediately after the
conclusion of the examination of the party who have brought that witness. In addition, he would then
offer his assistance to the Board in extending the time if cross examination takes a significant amount of
time. He would suggest that cross examination time not be charged to the party who has brought that
witness to the hearing.
Mr. Hawkins moved to suspend Section 13, Rules 1-7 per the recommendation of the Department and as
amended by Mr. Molitor. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Torres.
Discussion followed regarding suspending Section 13, 1-7 of the Rules of Procedure as amended by Mr.
Molitor. As stated, it would be one hour per side, with one-half hour per person.
Mr. Dierckman moved to amend the motion to limit the time in Paragraphs 2 and 3 to 30 minutes per
party, with 15 minutes per person, two on each side. Mrs. Torres seconded the motion to amend.
Only witnesses brought in by one of the parties would be cross examined, not the parties involved.
The amendment was APPROVED 3-1, with Mr. Weinkauf casting the opposing vote.
The motion to suspend the roles as amended was APPROVED 3-1, with Mr. Weinkauf casting the
opposing vote.
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H. Public Hearing:
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Martin Marietta, Appeal to Director's Determination of
The applicant would like to appeal a Director determination that Martin Marietta's
operation is a legal, nonconforming use:
Docket No. 04070020 A Chapter 28.06 Existence of a Nonconforming Use
The site is located north of 106th Street and west of Hazel Dell Parkway. The site is zoned
S-1/Residence - Low Intensity. Filed by Tom Yedlick.
Present for the Petitioner' Tom Yedlick, 5053 St. Charles Place. This is significant to the City because
mining activity has been going on for over 30 years without regulation. The Zoning Ordinance does not
provide adequate guidance on granting Use Variances for mining. Mining is only a temporary use of the
land. After the mineral is exhausted, there needs to be a determination of how the land is to be used.
Carmel Sand operation is a nuisance to the neighbors and homeowners in Kingswood and Wood Creek
subdivisions. They have expectations and property rights when the minerals are exhausted and the
nuisance and Temporary Use go away. The Board is facing new applications that are expansions of
existing Non-Conforming Uses. The determination on expanding Non-Conforming Uses will set a
precedent for pending applications. He included for the record his December 16, 2003 complaint letter,
August 12, 2004 memorandum on points of authorities and the October 4, 2004 rebuttal to statements
made and contained in Mr. Weiss' letter of June 18, 2004.
Comments made off microphone by Mr. Weiss and acknowledged by Mr. Weinkauf.
Mr. Yedlick continued. There are two issues tonight. If the processing plant is considered as part of
mineral extraction, then that Use expires when there is no mineral extraction. The plant cannot be
converted to commercial processing of off-site material. On the other hand, if the processing plant is
considered a Use independent of mineral extraction, then the processing plat has never been a Permissible
Use at any time because it is a Manufacturing Use in a residential area. The only conclusion is that the
processing plant, regardless of how it got there, is currently operating as a Non-Conforming Use without a
permit. Therefore, it is a zoning violation which should be stopped. He discussed the transition of the
plant to a Non-Conforming Use. The Use determines the purpose of the processing plant. If the purpose is
to process minerals extracted from the Carmel Sand Quarry, then the Use is to process those minerals
only. Any change constitutes a change in the Non-Conforming Use and is impermissible without a permit.
If the processing plant is an Independent Use, that is another issue, and it can only be expanded with a
permit from this Board, because Uses that are Non-Conforming cannot be expanded or changed. Carmel
Sand is an Existing Non-Conforming Use because it has never conformed to any Ordinance of this City.
The Ordinance states that a Non-Conforming Use shall require a Special Use approval for any alternation
in change in Use, enlargement or extension. The change of Use has been from mineral extraction to
processing minerals not extracted on that property. The burden on changing a Use is on Martin Marietta.
State Code tends to interpret Non-Conforming Uses in strict terms. Essentially the objective is a policy of
Zoning Ordinances to secure the gradual or eventual elimination of Non-Conforming Uses and to restrict
or diminish rather than increase such Uses. Martin Marietta is attempting to expand that Non-Conforming
Use, rather than restrict it. He highlighted the information he had distributed to the Board regarding
definition of Non-Conforming Use. He stated that the Use expires when the minerals are no longer there.
The quarry operations have been going on since he was a resident in the area in 1993 and longer. Martin
Marietta has not applied for nor received any Special Uses for the Non-Conforming Uses on the property.
They have operated outside the Zoning Ordinance. The elements of quarry operation are extraction and
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processing. The quarry operations are self-contained and identified with the property. The minerals are
extracted and processed on-site. Once reserves are depleted, the basis for the quarry is over as a Non-
Conforming Use and the property should revert back to the original, underlying zoned Use. You can't
process what you don't extract. He had provided two cases on point, the Maxie case vs. BZA and a sand
and gravel operation in Massachusetts, that were both denied.
Mr. Phears cross examined Mr. Yedlick. He pointed out Mr. Yedlick's signature, as President of the
Kingswood Homeowners Association, on a document recognizing the Use established on the Martin
Marietta property constituting a legal Non-Conforming Use. Mr. Yedlick stated it was his signature, but
added that the Uses in place at that time were legal Non-Conforming Use, but the Uses have changed
since that time. Mr. Phears questioned Mr. Yedlick regarding the time the processing plant and mine had
been there. Mr. Yedlick agreed that they had been there when he moved to his home in 1993, but he did
not know how long they had been there. Mr. Phears asked if he knew if the processing activities on this
site predated the zoning authority of the City of Carmel. Mr. Yedlick did not know. Mr. Phears asked if he
had coordinated this process with Mr. Thrasher and Mr. Yedlick said that he had not. Mr. Phears asked
him that if there had been a plant there since before Carmel had zoning authority over it, would Mr.
Yedlick agree that it was legal. Mr. Yedlick stated that if the plant was there before Carmel zoning
authority, it is legal to the limited extent of the purpose and use of the plant at the time that it was there.
Mr. Phears asked if Mr. Yedlick had any expertise in zoning law or mining. Mr. Yedlick stated he did not
have expertise in zoning law, but has expertise in mining from his research. Mr. Phears asked if he had
visited any other mines and Mr. Yedlick stated that he had visited a Martin Marietta one in Noblesville.
Phil Thrasher, for various individual remonstrators. His associate distributed a book of documentary
evidence that he wanted introduced into evidence. Also present was his clerk, Laura Brook Conway, who
complied most of the evidence from public records. He paged through the book and asked Ms. Conway if
she prepared or gathered that evidence and kept it secure and not modified. Her affidavit was in the back
of the book. She stated in the affirmative for each item.
Mr. Phears asked who Mr. Thrasher represented.
Mr. Thrasher stated he represented interveners: William D. McEvoy, Gregory Palinka, Susan Becker, Rex
Weiper, Renee Cummingfeld and Donald K. Crabb individually. He stated that the Carmel Sand and
Gravel operation had been illegal from the beginning. It has never conformed to the S-1 Zoning
regulations of the City of Carmel. The Zoning Ordinance was in effect a long time before the digging
started. The letter of determination from Mr. Hollibaugh was not appropriately issued because it blanketly
said that everything that Martin Marietta is doing in Clay Township was and is a legal Non-Conforming
Use. It does not state what those Uses are or where those Uses are. The exhibits prove that Martin
Marietta has not been in an urban area since February 29, 1988. They were not in operation until two to
three years later. Therefore, they could never have been a Conforming Use and the urban area exception
would not have applied to them. So they could not generate a legal Non-Conforming Use. Martin Marietta
will argue that they have a 2002 binding agreement, maybe even a 1997 agreement on the City of Carmel
or on Kingswood Subdivision, that they are a legally Non-Conforming Use. That agreement has to be
ratified by this Board. Therefore, it is not binding for purposes of Zoning. To be a legal Non-Conforming
Use, it must conform to a predecessor Ordinance. It did not start until the 1990's and the area was already
S-1 by then. Pursuant to Indiana Code Section 36.7.4.919d and the cases cited here, the Board does have
the authority to do whatever it wants to do; reverse, affirm, modify, or rescind the letter, or you can start
over. He had proposed Findings of Fact and Conclusions, and a request for relief. They are requesting that
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the Board rescind the letter of June 24 and that a new letter of determination be issued. The Board can go
further and suggest that the stockpiling of materials is an Illegal Use and should be removed. If they fail to
conform, the Board can impose sanctions. He objected to not having adequate time to present his material
and for the Board to review it.
Mr. Phears cross examined Mr. Thrasher. He asked Mr. Thrasher when it became an urban area. Mr.
Thrasher replied, using Exhibit I, February 29, 1988. Mr. Phears asked if he did not agree that prior to that
time, the City nor the County had the authority to regulate it from a zoning standpoint. Mr. Thrasher
replied no, because the Zoning Ordinance was in effect from 1980. Mr. Phears stated that according to
State Law, if it is outside an urban area the City and County cannot regulate it. Mr. Thrasher stated that a
Plan Commission may not adopt an Ordinance restricting the complete use of mineral resources. Mr.
Phears asked if Mr. Thrasher would agree that prior to 1988, Martin Marietta was free to use the mine free
of the Carmel Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Thrasher agreed. Mr. Phears asked if Kingswood was paying Mr.
Thrasher's fees. Mr. Thrasher stated that none had been paid, but he was submitting his bills as instructed
by his client. None of his clients were residents of anywhere other than Kingswood.
Zeff Weiss, One American Square, attorney for Martin Marietta. The Petitioner is wrong on both the law
and the facts. He confirmed with the Board's lawyer, John Molitor, the following legal issues. The area in
question is zoned S-l, mineral extraction which includes processing is an integral part and is permitted as
a Special Use in S-1. There is no Scheduled Use that would allow a processing plant and it is not in the
M-1 district. Importation of sand and gravel to use at this sand plant is permitted under the Ordinance and
Indiana Law, as long as it does not change the character of the operation. Mr. Thrasher and others want to
read it differently and say that it was not intended that mining would be permitted in S-1. In the Schedule
of Uses, under Industrial Uses, mineral, sand, gravel extraction operations are permitted in the S-l, S-2,
R-1 districts. Mining took place in this area long before 1988 when the area became urban. He shared a
map of the area. The Marburger parcel was purchased by American Aggregates, the predecessor to Martin
Marietta, in 1964. In an affidavit from William Kams, who was with American Aggregates from 1959 to
1981, he states that American Aggregates acquired the property in 1964 and commenced mining in 1971.
There were pictures from each year to verify the mining. An affidavit from John Tiberi, with Martin
Marietta, stated that based on the review of the records, Martin Marietta continued to mine the property.
The processing is an integral part of mineral extraction and it started before 1981. The Founders Park area
was mined first, according to Mr. Kams, and it is contiguous to the Marburger parcel. American
Aggregates started in one area and continued on down. As a matter of Indiana Law, that is one mine.
Mr. Thrasher objected to affidavits submitted by non-live witnesses.
Mr. Weiss stated that both witnesses were present.
Mr. Weiss continued, stating that Mr. Yedlick and Mr. Thrasher changed what the Ordinance said. He
referred to Section 28.01.06 of the Ordinance which said that any existing Use is eligible for Special Use
approval, shall not be considered Legal Non-Conforming Uses, nor require Special Use approval for
continuance. If you are there before the Ordinance is applicable to you, you do not need to go through the
process of getting a Special Use approval, you just continue to operate. Martin Marietta can go from
Founders Park down to Mueller North pursuant to this particular Ordinance.
Mr. Phears showed aerials of the Founders Park area, which was the area of the processing plant in 1981
and earlier than that. Mr. Kams' affidavit states there has been a processing plant there since at least 1971
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and actually further back. The company documented the Use of the properties every year. There are
photos of operation from 1971 forward to 1984 of the Marburger property and Plant 512 which is the
Keller property, now known as Founders Park. In April 1964, Mr. Leroy New stated that the activities of
the business and the nature of mineral extraction would not be subject to the zoning authority of the Plan
Commission.
Mr. Thrasher objected to the photos because the live witness was not present.
Mr. Phears stated that Mr. Kams was present.
Mr. Thrasher questioned Mr. Kams regarding the photos.
William R. Kams, 1106 Fairbanks, Carmel resident since 1968. Mr. Kams stated he had provided the
pictures up to 1981, when he left the company. They were sent to the company headquarters in
Greenville, Ohio, to the President of American Aggregates (name inaudible). They discussed houses on
the Marburger property. He stated the plant was located north of 116th Street where Founders Park is
currently located. It started as Gradle Brothers Gravel in possibly the late 1940's and American
Aggregates acquired the property. That plant was tom down.
Mr. Weiss also questioned Mr. Kams regarding the photos. Mr. Kams stated the photos had been kept by
American Aggregates and he had reviewed the original files that contained the photos that were presented
today.
Mr. Thrasher questioned Mr. Tiberi regarding the photos from 1981 forward.
John Tiberi, 5306 Charles Court, Carmel, was sworn in. He stated that he joined Martin Marietta in July
2002. He had formerly been in Tampa, Florida. He did not know the exact date the Carmel Sand plant was
put in its current location. From his review of the records, it was approximately 1990-1992.
Mr. Yedlick asked the Board to look at page 3 of the Settlement Agreement, Item 8. It stated that the City
recognizes that the existing Non-Conforming Uses may not be substantially modified, expanded or added
to without a change in zoning classification or approval of a Special Use or Variance. This settlement was
also signed by Martin Marietta. On page 8, Item 6 states that Kingswood, Martin Marietta, Hughey and
the City recognize that this agreement is for the purpose of settlement of a lawsuit and is not binding on
the BZA, or the Plan Commission or the City Council in exercise of their responsibility of land use and
zoning. From that we can gather that it has no substance here, it has no beating on this Board.
Mr. Weiss and Mr. Phears made comments inaudible off microphone.
Mr. Phears stated that the reason it is relevant to this Board is because the folks appearing before this
Board are making statements contrary to what they agreed to in this document. If they disagreed in 2002,
they had an opportunity to appeal this matter and bring it before the Board or a Court of Law, which no
one has done.
Mr. Yedlick read from the Uses in the S-1 of the Carmel Zoning Ordinance that mineral extraction,
borrow pit, topsoil removal and storage were listed, but nothing about processing.
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Mr. Weiss stated that what Mr. Yedlick read were the Development Standards, the minimum area
requirements, not Uses. For Uses you need to go to the Schedule of Uses.
Mr. Yedlick disagreed. He wanted to know when Martin Marietta stopped extracting mineral from the
east side of Hazel Dell on the Carmel Sand and Gravel property. The dredge has been parked for two.
years.
Mr. Phears stated that they hadn't stopped.
Mr. Yedlick wanted to know when the piping was removed from the dredge and it was no longer in use.
Mr. Tiberi stated that he believed the last date was in 2003 to dredge and it is currently idle. Minerals are
being extracted with an excavator and backhoe.
Mr. Yedlick felt that was a change in Use from the original. With regard to the State Law, he asked if they
agreed that it reads that this Chapter does not authorize the action of Plan Commission that would prevent
outside areas complete use in relation to mineral resource. Is that your testimony that that constitutes
zoning status?
Mr. Molitor recommended to the Board that the parties continue to make their closing statements then the
discussion will turn to the Board and the Board could ask him legal questions.
Mr. Yedlick continued that one of the gentlemen had made the statement that importation is okay if it
doesn't change the character of the use of the plant. ·
Mr. Phears stated that Indiana Law is that the importation does not change the Use in the case sited
previously. He stated that Mr. Yedlick had concluded that any minor activity performed in connection
with the Use changes, then the Use changes. He felt Mr. Yedlick failed to separate the work that makes up
the Use from the Use. Uses are the categories in the Zoning Ordinance. The things that are done using an
excavator, dredge or processing plant are the ways the Use is carried out, they are not the Use.
Mr. Weiss felt it did no good to debate the law with Mr. Yedlick and that facts could be covered in cross
examination.
Mr. Weinkauf stated the cross examination would follow and questions could be handled at the end of
closing arguments.
Mr. Phears had questions for Mr. Tiberi concerning the dredge and the Marburger property.
Mr. Tiberi stated that the dredge is still operable and could still be operated in the future. He stated the
reserves on the Marburger property could be mined.
Mike Hollibaugh, Director of the Department of Community Services. He issued the letter on June 24,
2004. It was based on the 2002 agreement between Martin Marietta and Kingswood that established the
land uses at that time as Legal Non-Conforming Uses. The letter stated those Uses, as suggested by Mr.
Yedlick, were not expansions of the Uses.
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Mr. Yedlick asked what Uses Mr. Hollibaugh was identifying.
Mr. Hollibaugh stated all the Uses that existed on the property at the time. He stated that the Uses were
defined on page 3 of the May 2002 agreement' "the City recognizes the Uses now established on the
Martin Property, including but not limited to the Hughey Operations, constitute legal, non-conforming
uses." Part of his determination was that the importation of sand and gravel did not constitute a change
that altered the Use. The processing plant was processing sand and gravel.
It was requested that all documents and affidavits submitted this evening be admitted into the record.
A 5 minute recess was taken.
Mr. Molitor stated that the Special Rules adopted under Suspension of the Rules for tonight allowed for a
total of 15 minutes for statements or letters from non-parties and the public in regard to this appeal.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the appeal; no one appeared.
Mr. Molitor stated that the Special Rule that was adopted allowed for each party to make a brief rebuttal
or closing statement for a maximum of five minutes for each of the four parties.
Mr. Yedlick made a summation of what had been heard. The main extraction has stopped with only
incidental digging. He felt processing stopped at the end of 2002. Processing is tied to the quarry and to
extraction. He felt if there was no extraction then processing was not part of the process that had been
going on, therefore it was a change. Bringing in materials to process is going from extraction to industrial
use for processing. He felt Mr. Hollibaugh should not have used the settlement agreement for his letter of
determination, because it does not recognize any changes since 2002. Therefore, his determination is
invalid.
Mr. Thrasher also summarized. He felt they had established that the Carmel Sand Plant does not conform
to the S-1 zoning classification, because mineral extraction is not permitted in S-1. They had established
that a Special Use was needed and none had been obtained. They had established that the non-urban area
exemption applied before 1989; however, evidence indicates that the current Carmel Sand Plant was
erected sometime after 1990. The 2002 agreement does not have a role in these proceedings. The
interveners did not sign the agreement and it is not binding on the City with respect to zoning. The
settlement agreement did not create a right of appeal which was waived by people who did not know
anything about it. There was no Legal Non-Conforming Use created by the lifting of the non-urban area
exemption. It is a Non-Conforming Use that has always been illegal. Their argument that Sub-Section
28.01.06 would overturn the Carmel Zoning Ordinance is silly. He did not see a Carmel Sand Plant in any
of the old photographs that were introduced by Martin Marietta. The plant Mr. Kams referred to was
north of 116th Street and had been dismantled. Finally, DOCS did not have the information in the file to
make a reasoned decision that was necessary to generate the letter of determination. He urged that DOCS
be asked to rescind the letter and issue an appropriate letter with respect to suspending operation at the
Carmel Sand Plant.
Mr. Phears indicated that there were repeated references to the Carmel Sand Plant in the documents and
phOtographs since 1985. Mr. Kams' affidavit recites the facts about the Carmel Sand Plant. It is referred
to sometimes as Carmel Plant and sometimes as Plant//512. The Use that was established on this site has
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always had a processing use as sand and gravel plants do. The idea of importation being a Use is crazy.
Uses are the things listed in the Schedule of Uses; in this case it is mining and extraction operations. This
is widely interpreted as things typically a part of the mining process, which includes getting it from the
mine to a finished product. You do not want processing occurring ten miles away; you want it to be fairly
close to each other. It is not ongoing now because of the multiple disputes they are involved in. They
would like to move the plant east of Hazel Dell and then the area where the plant site is would be mined
out. The Case of Day vs. Ryan in Indiana Court of Appeals in 1990 states that the trading of livestock
raised elsewhere did not work a transformation of the basic agricultural nature of the Ryan's use of the
property. Founders Park and the Marburger property were all part of one mine. The Marburger property
was acquired in 1964 and the Founders Park area prior to that. The mine began in the Founders Park area
and progressed to the south to the current location. There are limited reserves left around the area where
the plant is which will be mined when they are allowed to move the plant to the east of Hazel Dell. He
addressed their Findings of Fact. The warranty deed showed the property was secured in 1964. Mining
commenced as early as 1971 as shown in the photographs. There was processing equipment in the area
per the photographs, their descriptions and Mr. Kams' affidavit. It was outside an urban area until
sometime in 1988. The two agreements, 2002 and 1997, are not irrelevant. Both agreements state the Uses
are lawful.
Mr. Hollibaugh wanted to clarify for the record that the 2002 agreement was not the only item used when
he measured the whole issue of importation of sand and gravel as an expansion of Non-Conforming Use.
Other things he looked at were the Zoning Ordinance, specifically Chapter 28, the Weiss letter dated June
18, the Yedlick letter of 2003, and the Yedlick white paper.
Mr. Molitor stated that, according to normal procedure, at this point the-Board members would ask any
questions. He suggested that the Board members had received a lot of information and they may want to
make a motion to take those materials under advisement and come back to the next meeting and ask the
questions.
Mr. Dierckman asked if there were Findings of Fact.
Mr. Yedlick's were attached to his appeal.
Mr. Hawkins asked if the Department had looked over the Findings of Fact or were they from Martin
Marietta.
Mr. Hollibaugh stated he had not had time to look at them.
Mr. Weiss suggested that the Board could vote and the Board's attorney or Department could draft the
Findings.
Mr. Weinkauf stated that the Board did not vote and then offer the opportunity for people to draft the
Findings.
Mr. Phears asked if the Board could legally close the evidence.
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Mr. Molitor stated that the BZA Hearing remains open until the Board is ready to vote. He did not know
if the Board would be willing to receive any new evidence unless one of the parties demonstrates there
has been new evidence discovered.
Mr. Dierckman moved to continue this Public Hearing to Old Business at the regularly scheduled BZA
Hearing on October 25, 2004. No statement will be made by either party. It will be the prerogative of the
Board to ask any questions at that time of either party or the public. The motion was seconded by Mr.
Hawkins and APPROVED 4-0.
I. Old Business
There was no Old Business.
J. New Business
There was no New Business.
K. Adiourn
Mr. Hawkins moved to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Torres and APPROVED 4-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:50 PM.
Connie Tingley, Secrjffary d/
Charles 'Weinkauf, Presid~
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