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MEETING AGENDA
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Place: Dept. of Community Services Conference Room, 3 Floor, Carmel City Hall.
Time: 9:00 a.m.
9:00a.m. Docket No. 12040018 ADLS Amend: Monon Main, Blocks 5 -7.
The applicant seeks approval modify a portion of the site plan and modify a few of the
architectural building elevations. The site is located northwest of the intersection of Main
St.& 3rd Avenue NW. It is zoned PUD /Planned Unit Development. Filed by Francois
Mercho for Big Monon Main, LLC, owners.
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Brian Cross with Civil Site Group and Hassan Mercho with Integra Builders
presented on behalf of the petitioner. Mr. Cross indicated the plan is being modified to
increase pervious area and decrease impervious area for the project. The number of
units will remain the same at 21, but the configuration of the site will be different. The
streetscape from the roundabout will also improve the view from the roundabout into the
development. Mr. Cross indicated they will be working with private utility companies on
relocation of existing services. Existing storm sewer structure and pipe sizes will not
change, although there may be some slight changes to some inlet casting elevations. All
utilities will be on site.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
-No comments.
Joanie Clark Vectren Energy
Indicated the gas line may have to be moved 30 feet, but as -built did not correspond with
proposed plans. Mr. Cross clarified that the west side of Building #5 was the area in question.
Ms. Clark asked how long until project would be started and Mr. Mercho responded they would
like to start foundation work in June, but indicated that Building #5 would not be involved in the
first phase of the project. Mr. Cross said the location of the gas line on the plan was based on the
markings from the 811 marking service. Ms. Clark said these markings are not always accurate
unless the requestor is planning to actually dig. She said she will have an accurate location in the
next two weeks.
Nick Redden Camel Engineering
Letter sent. Engineering department is waiting for petitioner's comments. Mr. Cross indicated
that the original plan was approved and added the developer would like this project to fall under
the previous master plan that was approved. He said the developer could potentially build what
was already approved without having to go through this process but they wanted to improve the
community and enhance the impervious area and landscape area. Mr. Cross asked what other
storm water conditions would need to be satisfied. Mr. Redden suggested Mr. Cross speak with
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John Thomas with Carmel Engineering.
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy
Indicated there would be a cost associated with relocation of service. Mr. Cross said he was
aware there would be a cost and asked the amount of revenue that would be created from this
building. Ms. Hunter said there would be no additional revenue from this since there is no
change in number of units. Ms. Hunter asked if the project will be solely residential units, to
which Mr. Cross indicated all units would be single family residential. Mr. Mercho asked how
much time would be required for relocation. Ms. Hunter said if there is relocation required, Duke
would require payment up front, and once they receive payment there would be 2 -3 weeks for
processing once they get the design completed. As for scheduling the work, it is usually 2 -3
weeks as well, so from start to finish the process is approximately 6 weeks.
Mr. Mercho asked about the cost associated with this relocation, and wanted to emphasize that if
the equipment is not moved, there would be no building from which Duke could collect revenue.
Ms. Hunter said when Duke creates infrastructure, the costs are added to the rate base of their
customers. These costs have already been accounted for. Therefore, Duke cannot go back to rate
payers and ask them to pay the cost to move this service. Mr. Mercho indicated the project may
not involve gas lines being moved.
Daren Mindham DOCS -Urban Forestry
Letter sent. Requested revised landscape plan showing tree preservation detail.
Bruce Knott Carmel Fire Department
-Based on plan CFD received, clarification was needed on street access from the west. Mr.
Mercho said the streets were shown on the plan but were not highlighted. Mr. Knott also
indicated that one fire hydrant may need to be moved. Mr. Cross said this would stay within the
same general area but need to be moved slightly one way or another. Mr. Knott asked if there
would be any parking issues, and said CFD has had several issues in the past of plans not
matching what was actually built. Mr. Cross indicated there is street parking in this area now,
and a possible solution would be to work with the Carmel Street Department to paint the area in
front of the hydrant as a no parking zone.
Mr. Knott asked if all townhomes would be built to residential building code. He said the last set
of townhomes contained commercial businesses below the residential and said CFD would need
to know when the project starts what codes should be applied during review. Mr. Cross said this
project would be completely residential. Ms. Hunter asked if the external walls will be
combustible or non combustible. Mr. Mercho said the walls will be a brick facade and will
comply with the new energy code.
Angie Conn DOCS- Planning and Zoning
Application will need to be submitted for re -plat. No further comments.
David Littlejohn DOCS Alternative Transportation Coordinator
Letter sent. Wanted to clarify the sidewalk along 3 Avenue would be located in the right -of-
way. Mr. Cross said the petitioner is proposing the sidewalk run along the back curb, but the
right -of -way line may only be 2 -3 feet off the back curb. Mr. Littlejohn indicated the sidewalk
would need to be 100 percent in the right -of -way, at least within the easement. Mr. Mercho
asked if there would need to be a sidewalk in this area, since there is already a sidewalk on the
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opposite side of the street. Mr. Littlejohn indicated that a sidewalk would be required on
both sides of the street, and they would each need to be at least 5 -feet wide.
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The applicant seeks sitc plan and design approval for a multitcnant building fuel canopy.
The site is located at 9800 N. Michigan Rd. and is zoned I 1 /Industrial, within the US 421/
Michigan Rd. Overlay Zone. Filed by Brad Walker of H H Restaurant Management.
9:15a.m. Carey Addition, Lot 3 Starting Line Preschool.
The applicant seeks the following special use approval:
Docket No. 12040004 SU ZO Chptr. 8.02 Special Use, preschool on residential site.
The site is located at 110 3rd Ave NE. It is zoned R -2 /Residence and lies with the Old
Town Overlay, Character Subarea. Filed by Diane Atkins.
Diane Atkins, owner of Starting Line Preschool, and Adam DeHart of Keeler -Webb
Associates presented on behalf of the petitioner. Drawings have been submitted to each
department. Mr. DeHart said there has been a discussion with Carmel Engineering
regarding traffic flow and also a response from Urban Forestry regarding the number of
bushes required, but other than those two departments, there have been no other issues
brought to his attention.
Greg Hoyes Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
-No comments.
Joanie Clark Vectren Energy
Informed petitioner to call prior to any digging on site.
Nick Redden Camel Engineering
No comments.
(Tabled to June 20)
(Withdrawn)
(Tabled to June 20)
Shirley Hunter Duke Energy
Informed petitioner if there would be no increase or change in electrical service, nothing further
would be required.
Daren Mindham DOCS -Urban Forestry
Asked petitioner for a revised landscape plan. No further comments.
David Littlejohn DOCS Alternative Transportation Coordinator
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Letter sent. No further comments.
Bruce Knott Carmel Fire Department
Asked if the project would be a daycare with occupancy classification "E Ms. Atkins clarified
the business is actually a preschool, not a daycare. Mr. Knott asked the age classifications and
total number of occupants who would be using this building. Ms. Atkins said there would be
three classrooms. Two -year -olds would have school two days a week from 9:00a.m. to 11:30a.m.
Three -year -olds would have school three days a week from 9:00a.m. to 11:30a.m. Four -year -olds
would have school Mondays through Thursdays from 9:00a.m. to 11:30a.m. There would also
the option for some of the children to stay until 2:OOp.m. Ms. Atkins said there would be 10
two year -olds, 12 three- year -olds, and 15 four year -olds.
Mr. Knott asked if the petitioner had received a new State of Indiana Construction Design
Release (CDR) that showed the project as "E" occupancy classification instead of `B Ms.
Atkins indicated the builder is working on changing this. Mr. Knott said there is a potential issue
with the exiting, specifically that an exit is not allowed into a kitchen. His interpretation is based
on this project being considered a daycare, so he will research the codes to see if a preschool has
different requirements.
Angie Conn DOCS- Planning and Zoning
No comments.
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