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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCorrespondenceJames Brainard Mayor Congauission er Wiliam Hamme President Carolyn E. Anker Vice President Jeff Worrel Secretary Bradley Meyer Commissioner David Bowers Commissioner Gregory Philips Commissioner Les Olds. KA Executive Directo_• 1/31/12 Ms. Boone: Sincerely, CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION Ms. Rachel Boone Sign Permit Specialist City of Carmel Department of Community Services 1 Civic Square, Carme, IN 46032 RE: Docket Nos, 11010002 4 V The Carmel Redevelopment Commission is in the process of finalizing all of the signage for the Center for the Performing Arts. With that said, the CRC would like to request a six month extension on our variance for Docket Nos. 11010002 4 V. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Les S. Olds, AIA Executive Director Carmel Redevelopment Commission I t5 1 3 0 X 012 o 000 itl 30 WEST MA IN SI REE1, SUITt. 220, CARMF!,, IN 46032 OFFICE 317.571.ARTS (2787) FAx 317.571.2789 Boone, Rachel M. From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Boone, Rachel M. Friday, December 10, 2010 3:39 PM 'Jim Redington' kevin flynn; Hollibaugh, Mike P FW: Sign design review comments Hi Jim, Below was my first email with comments regarding the September 9 sign package for both the Palladium and the Booth Tarkington and Studio theatres. My email today basically outlines all the signage 1 have seen so far for the whole Center for the Performing Arts Complex. I've calculated what is allowed per the Sign Ordinance and how much signage is proposed. There are some questions for you mixed within the numbers. I know the Mayor had not wanted any signage to need variances. But there are some signs that are too tall, too big, or not allowed at all by the Sign Ordinance. However, I have not been informed on how or if we will change the signs to make them meet the Sign Ordinance requireme -lts. So...happy reading! Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Rachel Here is a complete list of all the signs allowed by the Sign Ordinance for this site: Complex ID sign: 2 at 75 sq. ft. and 6' tall because of two frontages Directory signs: 4 at 20 sq. ft. and 5' tall because of two parking entrances Wall signs for tenants on Parcel 7C: (frontage is west, but front of building is north) Booth Tarkington: 1 sign at 75 sq. ft. Studio Theatre: 1 sign at 75 sq. ft. Office tenant (SEP 1 sign at 45 sq. ft. Wall signs for Palladium: North: 75 sq. ft. allowed West: 95 sq. ft. allowed Any signs less than 3 sq. ft. are considered exempt. Interior signs are not governed by the Sign Ordinance. Total square footage allowed: 595 sq. ft. Parcel 7A (Palladium) A -01 The Center for the Performing Arts ground sign north: 33.76 sq. ft. (75 sq. ft. allowed) B -11 Vehicular directional pole signs at 16.03 sq. ft. (exempt) C -03, C -09, C -17 3 Vehicular directional ground signs at 1.78 sq. ft. each 5.34 sq. ft. total (each Tess than 3 sq. ft. exempt) D -10, D -13, D -19, D -20 4 Pedestrian directional ground signs at 1.17 sq. ft. each 4.68 sq. ft. total (each less than 3 sq. ft. exempt) E Pedestrian directional ground sign at 6.39 sq. ft. (20 sq. ft. each and 5' tall allowed. Where will these signs be placed F -05, F -16, F -26 3 Electronic Media /Directory ground signs at 14.49 sq. ft. each 43.47 sq. ft. (electronic signs not allowed per the Sign Ordinance,+) G Dedication sign at 6 sq. ft. (Where is this sign being installed H -07 West Entry wall sign: 1.78 sq. ft. (exempt) H -25 East Entry wall sign: 1.26 sq. ft. (exempt) J -04 Box Office wall sign: 1.03 sq. ft. (exempt) J -04 West Lobby wall sign: 1.14 sq. ft. (exempt) J -12 South Entry wall signs: 0.81 x 3 2.43 sq. ft. (each less than 3 sq. ft. exempt) 1 J -24 Gift Shop wall sign: 0.94 sq. ft. (exempt) J -24 East Lobby wail sign: at 1.11 sq. ft. (exempt) 1 -24 Cafe wall sign: 0.44 sq. ft. (exempt) K -08, K -14, K -19, K -21 Pedestrian directory wall sign: 1.03 sq. ft. x 4 4.12 sq. ft. (each less than 3 sq. ft. exempt) L -06, -22, L -23 Box Office, Gift Shop, Cafe pedestrian wall signs: 2.31 sq. ft. each x 3 6.93 sq. ft. (each less than 3 sq. ft. exempt) Parcel 7A total: 33.76 sq. ft. (legal), 47.23 sq. ft. (exempt), 43.47 sq. ft. (illegal) 12.39 sq. ft. (unknown location) Parcel 7C (Theatres) Signs from October 27 packet: Center Green ID sign: 24.5 sq. ft. and 8'1.25" tall (75 sq. ft. and 6' tall allowed) Donor name for building complex main wall sign: 20.25 sq. ft. (75 sq. ft. allowed) Booth Tarkington Civic Theatre main wall sign: 27.5 sq. ft. (75 sq. ft. allowed) 4 Center Green Directory: 4.75 sq. ft. (exempt because each sign individually is less than 3 sq. ft.) 3 Center Green Directory: 4.75 sq. ft. (exempt because each sign individually is less than 3 sq. ft.) 4 East Center Green Directory: 4.92 sq. ft. (exempt because each sign individually is Tess than 3 sq. ft.) Studio Theatre secondary wall sign: 1.59 sq. ft. (Exempt. Will the area below this sign house graphic advertisements? Or is it meant for a text directory?) Booth Tarkington Civic Theatre secondary wall sign: 5 sq. ft. (Considered part of main wall sign and less than total square footage allowed. Will the area below this sign house graphic advertisements? Or is it meant for a text directory?) Booth Tarkington Civic Theatre corner wall sign: 16.77 sq. ft. (Can also consider this one part of the main wall sign square footage) Blade sign /banner: 39.38 sq. ft. overall x 2 75.76 sq. ft. total (not allowed by Sign Ordinance) Signs from September 9th packet not included in October packet (why SEP wall sign: possibly 12 sq. ft. (45 sq. ft. allowed) Civic Theatre corner sign: possibly 35 sq. ft. (Cannot have both this sign and the individual letters above the entrance) C -32 CPA pedestrian directional: 1.78 sq. ft. (exempt) C -40 CPA pedestrian directional: 1.78 sq. ft. (exempt) F -31 Electronic Media /directory: 14.49 sq. ft., 6'8.75" tall (Not allowed by Sign Ordinance) B -34 Vehicle directional light pole sign: 16.03 sq. ft. (exempt) 1 banner at possibly 10' x 12' 120 sq. ft. (None of the banners are allowed by the Sign Ordinance. What messages and /or images will these banners have on them 1 banner (W) at possibly 10' x 12' 120 sq. ft. 3 banners (W) at possibly 8' x 26' 208 sq. ft. each 624 sq. ft. total 1 banner (S) at possibly 8' x 32' 256 sq. ft. 3 banners (S) at possibly 8' x 18' 144 sq. ft. each 432 sq. ft. total Parcel 7C total: 106.02 sq. ft. (legal not including exempt signs), 35.60 sq. ft. (exempt), 1,677.21 sq. ft. (illegal) Totals for both parcels: 139.78 sq. ft. (Legal) 82.83 sq. ft. (exempt) 1720.68 sq. ft. (illegal) 12.39 sq. ft. (unknown location) Grand total 1955.68 sq. ft. of signage 2 The Center for the Performing Arts Sign Package The Palladium Identification:1 "The Center for the Performing Arts" ground sign north at 33.76 sq. ft. 1 "West Entry" wall at 1.78 sq. ft. 1 "East Entry" wall at 1.26 sq. ft. 1 "Box Office" wall sign at 1.03 sq. ft. 1 "West Lobby" wall sign at 1.14 sq. ft. 3 "South Entry" wall signs at 0.81 sq. ft. 0 1 "Gift Shop" wall sign at 0.94 sq. ft. 1 "East Lobby" wall sign at 1.11 sq. ft. (l� 1 "Cafe" wall sign at 0.44 sq. ft. UU Directional: 2 Vehicular directional pole signs at 16.03 sq. ft. each 32.06 sq. ft. total 5 Vehicular directional ground signs at 1.78 sq. ft. each 8.9 sq. ft. total 4 Pedestrian directional ground signs at 1.17 sq. ft. each 4.68 sq. ft. total Pedestrian directional ground sign at 6.39 sq. ft. Advertising: 4 Electronic Media/Directory ground signs at 14.49 sq. ft. each 57.96 sq. ft. 2 Box Office signs on top of electronic signs at 1.08 sq. ft. each 2.16 sq. ft. Dedication sign at 6 sq. ft. Total for Palladium: Without uncertain signs: 160.70 sq. ft. With uncertain signs: 173.09 Total Allowable square footage per Sign Ordinance: 170 sq. ft. Some directional signs may be considered for the 500 Seat 200 Seat Theaters 500 200 Seat Theatres North elevation: Identification: 1 SEP (main tenant) wall at possibly 12 sq. ft. 2 Donor /or Theater name wall at possibly 62 sq. ft. each 124 sq. ft. total 1 Civic Theatre corner sign at possibly 35 sq. ft. 2 Directory signs at possibly 12 sq. ft. each 24 sq. ft. total Blade: 2 banners at possibly 25 sq. ft. each 50 sq. ft. total Advertising: 1 banner at possibly 10' x 12' 120 sq. ft. West elevation: Advertising: 1 banner at possibly 10' x 12' 120 sq. ft. 3 banners at possibly 8' x 26' 208 sq. ft. each 624 sq. ft. total South elevation: Advertising: 1 banner at possibly 8' x 32' 256 sq. ft. 3 banners at possibly 8' x 18' 144 sq. ft. each 432 sq. ft. total East elevation: No signs shown Totals for 500 200 Seat Theaters: (sizes are estimates because names are currently unknown) Identification: 245 sq. ft. Advertising banners: 1,552 sq. ft. Grand total: 1,797 sq. ft. Total Allowable square footage per Sign Ordinance: 75 for west elevation If all sides of building were public streets: 210 sq. ft. allowed by Sign Ordinance Square footage over allowable: 1,587 Project: The Center for the Performing Arts Location: Carmel Redevelopment Commission Office By: Matt Worthley, reviewed by Les Olds Meeting Date: December 8, 2010 Participants: Cheri Dick Bob Sorbera Les Olds Matt Worthley Summary: The purpose of this meeting was to review and discuss the "7C Sign Package." 1. Civic requested two additional banner signs on the north facade of the Office DOCS Building. CRC will investigate the feasibility of adding these banner signs ctgot 1 its+ 2. Civic requested that the "no weapons allowed" stickers be removed from the 1 glass entry way into the office building -h vu ty (JO C S toot v i Uk3 3. In reference to page G1.4, Civic requested that Booth Tarkington Civic Theatre and Studio Theater be switched to appear above SEP /Civic Theatre Offices 4 V\A V2Y OQ s 4. Signage needs to be added to identify Jr. Civic (also known as "Civic Support Space a. Jr. Civic should be used on all renderings and depictions unless otherwise notified by Mrs. Dick, Mr. Sorbera or Mr. Olds i. The Building Directory 1)0 C5 ii. Entrance from the Garage (all levels into the space iii. Signage in the garage 5. Signage needs to be added to direct people to the Civic Office Space k- a. Office space is on the 2 and 3r floor of the Main Stage Theater 6. G1.17 use Option B and allow for Option A to be added at a later date (with a possible naming sponsor) 0 IL 7. G1.18 use Option B and allow for Option A to be added at a later date (with a possible naming sponsor) 0 (L...