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CARMEL TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Place: Dept. of Community Services Conference Room, 3` Floor, Cannel City Hall.
Time: 9:00 a.m.
Note: The Department of Public Utilities of the City of Indianapolis d /b /aitizens Water
(CW) has reviewed the below listed TAC agenda topics. CW's response for each topic is
stated in the Bold Blue Text below each topic description.
9:00 a.m. St. Mary St. Mark Coptic Orthodox Church.
The applicant seeks the following special use development standards variance approvals:
Docket No. 11100013 SU ZO Ch. 5.02: Special Uses, religious use.
Docket No. 11100014 V ZO Ch. 5.04.01: Max. building height exceeds 35 -ft.
The site is located at 12174 Shelborne Rd. It is zoned S -1 /Residence. Filed by Don
Highlander of Connecting Spaces, LLC.
CW has no objection to the above described request. This site is not served by CW.
The site is within the Carmel Utilities Service Territory, currently serving this vicinity.
9:10 a.m. Carey Addition, Lot 3 Starting Line Preschool.
The applicant seeks the following special use approval:
Docket No. 11100019 SU ZO Ch. 8.02: Special Uses, preschool.
The site is located at 110 3` Ave NE. It is zoned R -2 /Residence and lies with the Old Town
Overlay Character Subarea. Filed by Diane Atkins.
CW has no objection to the above described request. This site is not served by CW.
The site is within the Carmel Utilities Service Territory, currently serving this vicinity.
9:20 a.m. Tabled indefinitely: Merchants' Square, nterprise Rent -A -Car former Hardee's site).
The applicant seeks the following use variance approva or an auto leasing business:
Docket No. 11100006 UV ZO Ch. 19.01: Permitted Uses. The site is located at
350 E. 116 St. It is zoned B -8 /Business. Filed by Jeff Gowdy of Enterprise.
CW has no objection to the above described request. This site is not served by CW.
The site is within the Carmel Utilities Service Territory, currently serving this vicinity.
9:30 a.m. Docket No. 11100022 DP /ADLS: Gramercy PUD (Mohawk Hills Redevelopment)
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a multifamily apartments infill and
rehabilitation project on 116.4 acres. The site is located at approximately 751 E. 126 Street,
at the southwest corner of 126 St. and Keystone Pkwy. The site is zoned PUD/Planned Unit
Development. Filed by Matthew Griffin of Buckingham Companies:
CW has no objection to the above described request. This site is not served by CW.
The site is within the Carmel Utilities Service Territory, currently serving this vicinity.
File: TAC201 I 1116.doc
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ONE CIVIC SQ. CARMEL. IN 46032 (317) 571 -2417
Conn, Angelina V
From: Gowdy, Jeffrey S [Jeffrey.S.Gowdy ehi.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:46 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Gowdy, Jeffrey S
Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
Sorry, Were not prepared at this point to move forward on TAC items either. We'll have to come back to that after we get
consistent Owner participation.
Thanks, Jeff
From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn @carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:43 AM
To: Gowdy, Jeffrey S
Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
Ok January BZA... Did you still want to show up at the Nov. 16 TAC meeting, just to keep things flowing? Attached is
the agenda. Your part would only last for about 5 -10 minutes.
Thanks,
-Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
From: Gowdy, Jeffrey S [mailto:Jeffrey.S.Gowdy @ehi.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:41 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Gowdy, Jeffrey S
Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
Angie,
Sorry, but we've had a snag with the Owner. They aren't comfortable signing the affidavit until we are closer to a signed
lease. That said, we are shooting for the December deadline to present at the January meeting.
Thanks, Jeff
From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn @carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:03 AM
To: Gowdy, Jeffrey S
Subject: FW: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
Hi Jeff I did not see your public notice in the IndyStar classifieds online. Does this mean that you are not moving
forward with the use variance, to be heard at the Nov. 28 BZA meeting?
-Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:20 PM
To: Boone, Rachel M.; Blanchard, Jim E; Donahue -Wold, Alexia K; Hancock, Ramona B; Hollibaugh, Mike P; Keeling,
Adrienne M; Littlejohn, David W; Martin, Candy; Mindham, Daren; Stewart, Lisa M; Tingley, Connie S; Mishler, Nicholas F;
Duncan, Gary R; Maki, Sue; 'GARY DOXTATER'
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Cc: 'Gowdy, Jeffrey St
Subject: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
I have updated the file. I have contacted the petitioner and issued the necessary Docket Number for (UV) Enterprise
Rent -A -Car. It will be the following:
(UV) Merchants' Square, Enterprise Rent -A -Car (former Hardee's site).
The applicant seeks the following use variance approval for an auto leasing business:
Docket No. 11100006 UV ZO Ch. 19.01 Permitted Uses
The site is located at 2350 E. 116` St. It is zoned B -8 /Business. Filed by Jeff Gowdy of Enterprise.
Jeff can be contacted at 317 710 -8177.
Filing Fees: Docket No. 11100006 UV
Total Fee:
$1,517.00
$1,517.00
Use Variance
Petitioner, please note the following:
1. This Item will be on the Nov. 25 agenda of the Technical Advisory Committee. If not done so already, the petitioner
must submit plans and review materials to all TAC members ASAP via email and /or mail. The updated TAC members
list is online at: http: /www.carmel.in.gov/ Modules /ShowDocument.aspx ?documentlD =708. (The TAC meeting
agenda will be sent out 10 days prior to this meeting.)
2. Mailed and Published Public Notice needs to occur no later than Nov. 3. Published notice is required within the
Indianapolis Star. Note: the placement of a public hearing sign on the property is also required by the BZA Rules
of Procedure, Article VI, Section 6 (see application). Make sure the public notice meeting time to the newspaper
and neighbors reads 6 PM and the location reads City Hall Council Chambers. It is suggested to send the notice to
the Indianapolis Star newspaper by Noon, two days prior to the printing deadline (317- 444 -7163 or email:
publicnotices @indystar.com).
3. The Proof of Notice will need to be received by this Department no later than noon, Friday, Nov. 25. Failure to
submit Proof of Notice by this time will result in the tabling of the petition.
4. The Filing Fee and Nine (9) Informational Packets must be delivered to BZA Secretary Connie Tingley no later than
NOON. Friday, Nov. 18. Failure to submit Informational Packets by this time will result in the automatic tabling of
the petition.
5. This Item will appear on the Nov. 28 agenda of the Board of Zoning Appeals Regular Meeting under Public
Hearings.
6. The petitioner will need to provide a fully filled -out Findings -of -Fact sheet for each petition the night of the meeting
for the Board's use (Sheet 8). On Ballot sheets, only fill out docket number, petitioner, and date (Sheet 7). Ballot
sheets must be collated.
7. Either the Petitioner or someone representing the Petitioner must be present at the meetings for the item to be
heard. If no one appears, it will be tabled.
8. Please refer to your instruction sheet for more details.
Department's Review Comments; petitioner, please complete the following:
a) Make sure the public notice meeting time to the newspaper and neighbors reads 6:00 PM. It is suggested to send
the notice to the Indianapolis Star newspaper by Noon, two days prior to the printing deadline (317- 444 -7163 or
email: publicnoticesPindvstar.com).
b) Please make checks payable to the City of Carmel.
c) Please provide filled out and notarized placement of public notice sign affidavit.
d) Please provide proof of notice from the Indy Star.
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Duncan, Gary R
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:54 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V; Boone, Rachel M.; Blanchard, Jim E; Donahue -Wold, Alexia K; Hancock,
Ramona B; Hollibaugh, Mike P; Keeling, Adrienne M; Littlejohn, David W; Martin, Candy;
Mindham, Daren; Stewart, Lisa M; Tingley, Connie S; Mishler, Nicholas F; Maki, Sue; 'GARY
DOXTATER'
Cc: 'Gowdy, Jeffrey S'; Thomas, John G; Redden, Nick; Barnes, David R
Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
Good morning all. Engineering will need to review any proposed site changes associated with this change in use. I would
assume that the existing drainage and other infrastructure would be utilized?
Mr. Gowdy, do you have data that identifies the traffic for an auto leasing business compared to a fast food restaurant?
I suggest a meeting with Engineering prior to the TAC meeting so we can understand better what is proposed and get
out in front of any issues that might affect the filing.
Thanks so much,
Gary
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 4:20 PM
To: Boone, Rachel M.; Blanchard, Jim E; Donahue -Wold, Alexia K; Hancock, Ramona B; Hollibaugh, Mike P; Keeling,
Adrienne M; Littlejohn, David W; Martin, Candy; Mindham, Daren; Stewart, Lisa M; Tingley, Connie S; Mishler, Nicholas F;
Duncan, Gary R; Maki, Sue; 'GARY DOXTATER'
Cc: 'Gowdy, Jeffrey S'
Subject: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
I have updated the file. I have contacted the petitioner and issued the necessary Docket Number for (UV) Enterprise
Rent -A -Car. It will be the following:
(UV) Merchants' Square, Enterprise Rent -A -Car (former Hardee's site).
The applicant seeks the following use variance approval for an auto leasing business:
Docket No. 11100006 UV ZO Ch. 19.01 Permitted Uses
The site is located at 2350 E. 116 St. it is zoned B -8 /Business. Filed by Jeff Gowdy of Enterprise.
Jeff can be contacted at 317 710 -8177.
Filing Fees: Docket No. 11100006 UV $1,517.00 Use Variance
Total Fee: $1,517.00
Petitioner, please note the following:
1. This Item will be on the Nov. 25 agenda of the Technical Advisory Committee. If not done so already, the petitioner
must submit plans and review materials to all TAC members ASAP via email and /or mail. The updated TAC members
list is online at: http: /www.carmel.in.gov/ Modules /ShowDocument.aspx ?documentlD =708 (The TAC meeting
agenda will be sent out 10 days prior to this meeting.)
2. Mailed and Published Public Notice needs to occur no later than Nov. 3. Published notice is required within the
Indianapolis Star. Note: the placement of a public hearing sign on the property is also required by the BZA Rules
of Procedure, Article VI, Section 6 (see application). Make sure the public notice meeting time to the newspaper
and neighbors reads 6 PM and the location reads City Hall Council Chambers. It is suggested to send the notice to
Conn, Angelina V
From:
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To:
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Hi, Jeff
To answer your questions:
1. The carmel ZO is online at: http: www. carmel.in.gov /index.aspx ?page =41 &parent =198
2. We can look and see if there are any variances associated with this site, but you would have to see if any
covenants or restrictions are recorded for this site or development as a whole. you might be able to check with
the Hamilton county recorder's office: http: www. hamiltoncounty .in.gov /departments.asp ?id =2320
3. Yes, the Notice of Public Hearing page within the use variance application can serve as a template for what you
put in the paper. That application is online at:
http: /www.carmel.in.gov/ modules /showdocument.aspx ?documentid =1492 (see page 7 of this .pdf)
4. Sure, here are a few website links to some already filled out findings of fact:
http: /cocdocs.ci. carmel .in.us /Weblink /DocView.aspx ?id 588666 &dbid =0 and
http: /cocdocs.ci. carmel .in.us /Weblink /DocView.aspx ?id 453180 &dbid =0
And yes, you can file the application a few days late, after the BZA filing deadline. But after that you will definitely need
to submit your plans and applications to us all TAC members ASAP. Also, if you could just send me something in
form on the 17 then I can issue the docket no. and get the process started for you.
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
City of Carmel Planning Zoning Division
Dept. of Community Services
1 Civic Square, 3rd Fir.
Carmel, IN 46032
0: 317 571 -2417 1 F: 317 571 -2426 1 E: aconn @carmel.in.gov
W: www.carmeldocs.com
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From: Gowdy, Jeffrey S [mailto:Jeffrey.S.Gowdy @ehi.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:57 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Gowdy, Jeffrey S
Subject: RE: old Hardee's site (use variance for Enterprise Rent -A -Car)
Angie,
Conn, Angelina V
Monday, October 10, 2011 11:53 AM
'Gowdy, Jeffrey S'
RE: old Hardee's site (use variance for Enterprise Rent -A -Car)
I'm in the process of filling out the application and have a few questions...
Thanks, Jeff
1. Where can I find a copy of the Carmel /Clay Zoning Ordinance?
2. #14 s there a resource to verify that informaton?
3. s the verb on t e otice of Public Hearing. the exact anguage that should appear in the newspaper?
4. The "F nd ngs of Fac page...can you give me an examp e o what I need to put here?
aware that the deadl ne to e is the 14th is it poss b e to get a extension? We should be able to complete our
scuss'ons w th the Owne and file by 10/21. Please et me know you think that would be acceptable.
From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn @carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:48 PM
To: Gowdy, Jeffrey S
Cc: Donahue -Wold, Alexia K
Subject: old Hardee's site (use variance for Enterprise Rent -A -Car)
Hi, Jeff attached is the landscape plan that is associated with the old Hardee's site at 2350 E 116 St. The City Forester,
Daren Mindham, was able to dig this up.
If you can submit your filled out use variance application soon (we just need the first 2 pages for now, along with any
photos, site plans, etc.), then we can issue a docket no. and get you on the Oct. 24 BZA meeting agenda, assuming you
could make the Sept. 29 public notice requirements with the certified mailings, legal ad in the newspaper, and sign
posted on site. You should probably contact the county auditor's office very soon, to get the official list of adjacent
property owners.
Then, we can also have you appear at the Oct. 19 TAC (Technical Advisory Committee) meeting, if you can send the
application and any pertinent info to the TAC members ASAP. The TAC members list is online at:
http: /www.carmel.in.gov/ Modules /ShowDocument.aspx ?documentID =708, and you can send them all a mass ema at
first explaining the project and attaching any .pdf's you might have, and also in the email ask if anyone needs paper
copies.
Thanks,
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
City of Carmel Planning Zoning Division
Dept. of Community Services
1 Civic Square, 3rd Fir.
Carmel, IN 46032
0: 317-571-2417 1 F: 317 571 -2426 1 E: aconnPcarmeLin.00v
W: www.carmeldocs.corrl
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Tuesday, January 03 2012 1:21 PM
To: 'Gowdy, Jeffrey S'
Cc: Kusz, Jeffrey D
Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
Okay. we will keep this on hold for a few more months...
-Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
From: Gowdy, Jeffrey S [mailto:Jeffrey.S.Gowdy @ehi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:21 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Kusz, Jeffrey D; Gowdy, Jeffrey S
Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
Angie,
Thanks for staying in touch.
Negotiations with the Owner aren't going anywhere right now so please pull us off the docket for the immediate future.
Thanks, Jeff
ENTERP R ISEHOLDINGS.
Jeff Gowdy, CFM
Operations Supervisor
Indiana Group
317 757 -7125 office
317 710 -8177 cell
866 417 -3464 fax
ieffrey.s.rrowdv @ehr com
7111 W Washington St
Building A
Indianapolis, IN 46241
enterpnseholdinos.com
From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:AButlerOcarmel.in.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:58 PM
To: Gowdy, Jeffrey S
Subject: FW: Docket No. Assignment: (UV) Enterprise Rent -A -Car #11100006 UV)
Happy New Year, Jeff!
are you thinking of moving forward with this petition this month? The TAC Technical Advisory Committee meeting
would be on the 18 and the BZA Board of Zoning Appeals- meeting would be on the 24th, if you made public notice
in time.... if not the next TAC meeting is Feb. 15 and the next BZA meeting is Feb. 27...
Please let me know your intentions. Thanks!
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
City of Carmel Planning Zoning Division
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