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Docket No. 04080042 DP Amend]ADLS:
Kentucky Fried Chicken/Long John Silver's
Filed by Ryan Oyster of the GPD Group.
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City of Carmel
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
October 19, 2004
Minutes
The regularly schedule meeting of the: Carmel Plan comrmssion met in the Council Chambers at
7:00 PM on October 19. 2004. The n.~eeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance.
Mme bers present'. Jerry Chomanczuk; i~ eo Dierckman; Wayne Haney; Dianna Knoll. Mark
Rattermann' Rick Rinma; Steve Stromaulqt; Madeleine Torres: Susan Westerme~er. thereby
establishing a quorum.
The minutes from the regular meeting of Septemi;er 21, 2004 and the Special Meeting of October 5,
2004 were approved as submitted.
Jon Dobosiewicz announced that items llh and 13h ,.re Tabled for this evening. Item 2h--the
petitioner would like to address the Commission this evening prior to formally Withdrawing this
item.
Jon Dobosiewicz asked the Commission to consider altemtlte meeting dates for December due to
conflicts with Hanukkah, Christmas. and School Break.
Dianna Knoll made formal motion to reschedule the December committee meetings to November 30,
2004 at 7:00 PM and the full Plan Commission meeting to Dece~.~ber 14, 2004, seconded by Mark
Rattermann and Approved 9-0.
Ih. Docket No. 04080042 DP Amend/ADLS:
Kentucky Fried Chicken/Long JohnSilver's
The applicant proposes to construct a fast food restaurant building. The site is
located at 1331 S. Range Line Road. The site is zoned B-8/Business.
Filed by Ryan Oyster of the GPD Group.
Ryan Oyster, GPD Group, engineering architecture firm appeared before the Commission
representin.g, the applicant. The current plans are to design a quick-service restaurant, KFC/Long
J0~ Silver s, to replace the existing KFC on Range Line Road. The petitioner has been working
closely with the Department in order to bring an acceptable plan before the Comrmssmn. The
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architecture is being up-dated so that it is consistent with Carmel Standards. The new building will
be shifted more towards the right-of-way as opposed to the old KFC building so that it will become
a more pedestrian friendly area,
There will be two access drives: one
from the drive-thru lane. i
however, '
split-face brick block at the
)f the brands, KFC and Long John
s. the facilities.
A materials board was displayed and questions invited.
Members of the public were invited to Speak in favor of or opposition to this petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. The Department has requested that the applicant revise the
building height and provide some minor changes to the proposed signage; these issues can be
reviewed by the Co~ttee on November 4. 2004.
Docket No. 04080042 DP Amend/ADLS, Kentucky Fried Chicken/Long John Silver's was
referred to the Special Study committee for further review on Thursday, November 4. 2004 at 7:00
PM in the caucus Rooms of City Hall.
2h.
Docket No. 04080055 PP: Brigl~
The applicant seeks to plat a resk
is located at 14407 Sh¢lbome Ro
Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Sto~
addressed first on the Agend~
mf Subdivision - Primary Plat
~tial subdivision of 64 lots on 40 acres. The site
· The site is zoned Si/Residence,
)elWerth and Associates for Pittman Parmers.
this evening.
before the Commission representing Pittman
the petitioner.
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Chomanczuk requested that the traffic report be made a part of the record.
followed Comnfittee discussion, comments, and consensus·
practice and auto repair shop in
then move the tenants in and tear
one building ~s a major re-skin! The
t at one time. The roof
the petitioner has
and consent to allow
the median back at
vithout having to go
;tate to remove the
n, but the appeal process will
gh.
The petitioner has done a traffic report; Jerry Chomanczuk asked that the traffic report be made a
part of the file.
The last major concern is the buffer/fence between the North Augusta neighborhood and the
proposed de~el°Pment. The fence is box and batten, and aesthetically pleasing on bo~ sides
~he heighbor s v~w is of a nice fence too: landscaping will be at the fence on petitioner s side, in
a planting bed with flowering trees.
Public comment:
Amb~ r Carson-Crane, 97th Street, N~
thous md times better than the exist
renan s, deemed most undesirable. ,t
they ~.eciduous trees? Also what wil
what ill the backside of the develop
fl0wi' [ through the residential neight
rth Augusta, stated that the proposed development is "a
~g facility. There was a question regarding one of the
th e
re there evergreens m the buffer along 97 Street, or ar
the developt~ent look like from the neighboring homes--
aent Iook like? Again, traffic is a major concern as far as
>rhood.
bay garage doors, but what the · As required by the Urban
preferred as a tenant, not a fast food restaurant·
3. Docket No. 0408004.2 DP Amend/ADL.S.:
Kentucky Fried Chicken/LOng John Silver's
The applicant proposed to constrUct a fast food restaurant building. The site is located at
1331 South Range Line ~d. The site is zoned B-8/Busienss.
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appeared before the Committee
multi-brand restaurant. New elevations were
spaces with a drive-through Stack of 3 to 5.
to2¼
that request.
portion
Filed
be
side columns and the center
is that the signage s~ze would be 3X6. A
uare feet. The Department would suggest
3X6 as opposed
~ etc --all on the rooftop. The facility has a
and the menu board are at the back of the building.
rare a variance from the BZA and the Department would support
The proposed facility is a
is 9-10 feet--the upper
: DP AmentFADLS,
a favorable
buildings. The site is
The site is zoned B-2.
sign contractor:
year.
should be pursuant to the Thoroughfare Plan--a 70 foot
16th Street and a 45 ~'o0t one-half on Guilford.
or retail--an
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races:
buffer yard requirements
30-ft g~eenbelt
~ number of signs & type
menu board a~ea, height & number
~etback
~ setback
Rd. The site is zoned B-8/Business.
plans
zero and
e larger than the
board would be installed until
~ expedite the
; request to move the building
s~gns will be visible.
Members of
n favor or opposition to the petition: no one appeared.
Mrs. Conn gave the Department Report. The Petitioner has worked hard with the Department and the
Plan Co~ssion in regards to the site layout and building design to comply with th~ proposed Carmel
Drive Range Line/Roac] Overlay. The DeVelopment Plan and th~ ADLS were approve~l b3 the Plan
Commission. The Department recommends positive consideration of all Dockets.
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part of the t
something that is not certain. If Long John
uests are not needed,
variances Sll
Mr. Weinkauf was more concerned about the
sign
motion.
n was
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lED CHICKEN/LONG JOHN SILVERS
PENDING
ght affect the Issuance of this permit,
1:48 AM
ntucky Fried Chicken/Long John Silvers
.,lira E; Hoyt, Gary
I, Jeff A; Duncan, Gary R; Akers, William P; Conn,
;iewicz, Jon C; Hill, Dick B; Dolan,
sion
3hicken/Long John Silvers
fire department is Jnder the impression that the building
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n P; Conn, Angetina V; Ullard, Sarah N; Blanchard, :Jim E; Hoyt, Gary