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City of Carmel
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
March 15, 2005
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Carmel Plan Commission met at 7:00 PM on Tuesday, March
15, 2005 in the Council Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana. The meeting opened with the
Pledge of Allegiance.
Members in attendance: Jerry Chomanczuk, Leo Dierckman, Dan Dutcher, Wayne Haney, Jerry L.
Heniser, Dianna Knoll, Rick Ripma, Madeleine Torres, Sue Westermeier. A quorum was established.
The Department of Community Services staff in attendance: Mike Hollibaugh, Director; Jon Dobosiewicz,
and Adrienne Keeling. John Molitor, legal counsel was also present.
The minutes of the February 15, 2005 meeting were approved as submitted.
Jerry L. Heniser, Mayoral Appointment to the Carmel Plan Commission was sworn in by John
Molitor.
F.Legal Counsel Report
: John Molitor reported on two Bills currently before the State
Legislature that would affect the local Planning and Zoning Statute—one is probably not any
concern and involves the application of Ordinances to forestry operations. There is a Bill that
would re-define “Blighted Areas” so that areas that need redevelopment are no longer
stigmatized as “blighted areas.” The “blighted areas” Bill will probably pass; John Molitor
will keep the Commission posted.
G. Reports, Announcements & Dept. Concerns
: Jon Dobosiewicz reported that public notice
on item 2h, Specialty Risk Internal was made in the newspaper 4 days late, and one day late by
certified mail. The Department requests that the Commission move forward with this item—
suspension of the Rules of Procedure would be required to hear this item tonight.
Jerry Chomanczuk made formal motion to suspend the Rules of Procedure in order to hear Docket
No. 05010042 DP/ADLS, Specialty Risk International, seconded by Dan Dutcher, Approved 9-0.
H. Public Hearings:
1h. Docket No. 05010043 DP/ADLS: Shoppes at Providence
The petitioner proposes two new 3-story commercial/residential buildings and related
parking, signage, and landscaping. The site is located at 12700 Old Meridian Street
and is zoned OM/V - Old Meridian/Village Zone.
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Filed by Dave Leazenby for Providence Commercial Properties, LLC.
Jim Shinaver, attorney with Nelson & Frankenberger appeared before the Commission representing
the applicant. Also in attendance: David Leazenby, Providence Commercial Properties, LLC, and
Gary Murray, Engineer, Mid-States Engineering.
The proposed construction at 12700 Old Meridian Street will consist of two, three-story commercial
buildings that will have apartment units on the second and third floor of each building. The site will
also include parking and related signage and landscaping.
By way of background, the overall Providence project began in 2000. The first phase was residential
apartment units; the second phase was residential townehomes. The ADLS/DP application represents
the third phase of the project that is the development of commercial shops with second and third
story residential apartments above the commercial shops. The vision behind the Providence project
was to provide a mix of residential and commercial uses in this area.
The commercial buildings will contain a total of approximately 65,844 square feet. Included in the
total square footage of each building is approximately 21,948 square feet of commercial space or
10,974 square feet of commercial per individual building. It is anticipated that these two buildings
will house approximately 5 commercial tenants in each building. Again, the second and third floor
will have residential apartments; each building will contain 24 residential apartments for a total of 48
residential apartments between the two buildings. Pursuant to the Old Meridian Village Overlay,
these buildings are positioned adjacent to Old Meridian and the commercial entrances for these
buildings can be accessed from the west side of the building and on the east side of the building.
However, for the residential units, the apartments can only be accessed from the east side of the
building. Ample parking has been provided on the east side of the site as well as sidewalk space
adjacent to Old Meridian to provide for and accommodate outdoor seating areas.
There are substantial plantings along the perimeter of the site as well as internal to the site and
internal to the parking lot area. Scott Brewer, the City Urban Forester has reviewed the landscape
plans and there are apparently no major issues that are outstanding.
The buildings were designed in light of the architectural requirements set forth in the Old Meridian
Village zone. The building elevations will complement not only the existing Providence project but
will also be consistent and compatible with the architecture in the immediate area.
Signage: There are two project monument signs proposed adjacent to Old Meridian. Two tenant-
identification signs are proposed slightly east of the buildings on the site, and in the middle of the two
buildings is a proposed, tenant directory sign. Renderings were shown of the building elevations that
depict the location of the proposed wall signage. Lighting cut-sheets were included in the
informational packets.
David Leazenby, Buckingham Companies addressed the Commission. Providence was initially
approved 5 years ago—a mix of uses on 28 acres. Meridian Music has opened their building and
doing well; this third phase of live/work units will add a different element, but was envisioned in the
beginning—residential uses above retail. Both buildings will include an elevator. All residential units
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will be one-bedroom apartments—7 different configurations—from approximately 700 square feet
up to 925 square feet. All of the residential units have balconies and are more a loft-type living
environment.
The retail spaces are designed to accommodate primarily breakfast and lunch uses, and any other
office or retail use; a lot of restaurant use is expected. The roofline above the third floor was raised
on the Old Meridian Street elevation to hide the rooftop equipment. The buildings are constructed
primarily of brick.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Department Comments—Jon Dobosiewicz said the petitioner had addressed a couple of the items
noted in the Department Report, except for the wall signage. The petitioner should be prepared to
provide additional information to the Committee regarding the wall signage. Based on the review of
other petitions, the Commission would probably want to see the design of tables, chairs, and
umbrella material that would front the right-of-way and be most visible to the public.
Commission Comments/Questions
Jerry Chomanczuk asked if this phase had been approved 5 years ago.
Jon Dobosiewicz responded that the proposed plans are consistent with the PUD rezone that came
through prior to the adoption of the Old Meridian Zone. In the Ordinance, there is an exception for
signage that allows this development to conform to the plans that were approved by the Plan
Commission and City Council as part of the PUD. Otherwise it is apparent through the building
elevations and other things that this proposal is consistent with the PUD as well as the underlying
Village zoning within the Old Meridian district.
Wayne Haney asked about the window signage and the proposed blade signs.
David Leazenby responded that there is a variety of signage allowed in the original Ordinance for
Providence, and that has been identified on the elevations as to where that could be. The window
signage is in addition to the signage called out above the doors. The signage is meant more for
pedestrians than automobile traffic passing by.
Dan Dutcher: Consistent with the Urban Design Initiative, the building is pretty tight against the
right-of-way—but it looks as if a lot of outdoor seating, sidewalks, trees, etc. would be sacrificed if
and when Old Meridian is expanded.
Jon Dobosiewicz commented that the petitioner’s proposal actually accommodates the intended
improvements. In addition, after the City improves Old Meridian, the on-street parking can be
accommodated within the thoroughfare prescribed right-of-way and it will dovetail.
Note:
The petitioner should come to Committee prepared to address signage—sign types, height of
blade signs, and examples of signage.
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Docket No. 05010043 DP/ADLS Shoppes at Providence
was forwarded to the Special Study
Committee for further review at 7:00 PM on Thursday, March 31, 2005 in the Caucus Rooms of
City Hall, Carmel, Indiana.
2h. Docket No. 05010042 DP/ADLS: Specialty Risk International
The petitioner proposes a new office building and related parking, signage, and
landscaping. The site is located immediately west of 501 Congressional Blvd and is
zoned B6/Business.
Filed by Elizabeth Hobbs of Krieg DeVault for Specialty Risk International.
Elizabeth Hobbs, attorney with Krieg, Devault appeared before the Commission representing the
applicant. Also in attendance: Drew White, Access Architecture.
Specialty Risk International proposes to relocate their corporate headquarters within the Meridian
Technology Center. The proposed office building and related parking facility will be located on two
combined parcels that total 6.6 acres.
The petitioner is proposing a two-story, 42,000 square foot building. The front entrance would be
oriented toward Congressional Boulevard. The front elevation is comprised of two different brick
materials—a dark brick and a light brick. The dark brick starts at the front entrance and wraps to the
northeast side of the building. The light color brick wraps around to the west and northwest corner
of the building to the staircase.
There is a significant glass feature on the south side of the building. The glass is a combination of
light-color glass and significant metal coping (dark and light gray) incorporated into the glass feature.
The canopy will be frosted with a curved feature.
Drew White explained the light and dark brick features, that it represents the only texture for the
mechanical screening, dryvit, and will match the lighter brick color. There are three glass colors:
clear, evergreen, and green to create interest. The sandblasted glazing would be the cover on the top
of the canopy. There are two metallic colors—a light, clear anodized for the window frames, and a
darker color for the beams and coping.
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In lieu of installing a sidewalk along 116 Street, the petitioner is looking at a trade-out for
connectivity from the proposed site to Pennsylvania Street along Congressional. Landscape issues
were due to landscaping within the drainage easement, and this has been moved outside the
easement. The petitioner is in the process of pursuing a Variance for the setback issue.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Department Comments: Jon Dobosiewicz reported that the issues of sidewalk/walking path and the
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right-of-way required along 116 Street would probably be resolved prior to the Committee meeting
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on March 31. The petitioner is to provide the Department with a diagram illustrating the location of
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roof-top equipment and the proposal for screening from view.
Note:
The petitioner was asked to bring full elevations to Committee for review, including colors, in
order to get a better perspective. The petitioner offered to bring a three-dimensional model to the
Committee meeting.
Jerry Chomanczuk was interested in the distribution of parking ratio for 501 Congressional
Boulevard as well as the proposed building.
Elizabeth Hobbs explained that the petitioner had closed on the property last month and a parking
easement agreement was executed with 501 Congressional at that time. Ms Hobbs offered to submit
a copy of the parking easement agreement.
Jerry Chomanczuk then asked if there were any further issues and referred to a statement made
approximately 5 years ago that additional buildings to the park would require an additional lift station
(sanitary as opposed to storm.)
Jon Dobosiewicz said the Department would look into it and report at the Committee Level.
Jerry Chomanczuk asked if this proposal had been reviewed and approved by the Meridian
Technology Park and if it complied with their covenants.
Elizabeth Hobbs responded that Julie Christiansen of REI had given approval approximately 30 days
ago and evidence could be provided.
Docket No. 05010042 DP/ADLS, Specialty Risk InternationalSpecial Study
was referred to the
Committee
for further review at 7:00 PM on Thursday, March 31, 2005 in the Caucus Rooms of
City Hall.
h. Docket No. 05010045 DP: Traditions on the Monon
The petitioner proposes 135 townhomes and related parking, signage, and
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landscaping. The site is located at the northwest corner of 136 Street and Range
Line Road and is zoned PUD.
Filed by Sean Sullivan for Centex Homes.
Jim Shinaver, attorney with Nelson & Frankenberger appeared before the Commission representing
the applicant. Also in attendance: Sean Sullivan, land acquisition and project manager, Centex
Homes, and Rich Kelly, EMHT Engineering, Dave Klauba of Land Focus, landscape designers, and
David Leazenby, Buckingham Companies.
The site was the subject of a rezone request in 2004. At that time, the petitioner was the
Buckingham Companies as developer. This same real estate was requested to a PUD rezone,
Traditions on the Monon, and was to be a townehome project The Plan Commission unanimously
recommended approval of the rezone to a PUD, and final approval granted by the City Council. For
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purposes of the rezone, Buckingham Properties was the developer; Centex Homes is to be the actual
builder for the townehomes on this site.
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The site is approximately 12.2 acres in size, located on the northwest corner of 136 Street and
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Range Line Road. The real estate is north of 136 Street, east of the Monon, and west of Range
Line Road. The petitioner has spent considerable time meeting with the Carmel Redevelopment
Commission and the DOCS Staff regarding the design and layout for this site.
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Ingress and egress have been provided adjacent to 136 Street; there is also an egress drive that
feeds into Range Line Road. An internal round-about has been incorporated into the site that
provides traffic flow throughout the site as well as two, long, large courtyard areas that will provide
a pleasing sight-line as well as a nice amenity area for the residents of this development.
The petitioner has reviewed this plan in detail with representatives of the Transportation Department
for the School and with the Carmel Fire Department. The School supports the internal site layout
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and the buses would enter along 136 Street, proceed north, pick up any schoolchildren in the
townehomes, and proceed around the round-about and exit the site at the egress drive onto Range
Line Road.
The petitioner has also had meetings with the Fire Department and discussed how their vehicles
would access the site. The Fire Department is also in support of this layout. The Fire Department
did ask that grass pavers be provided in the northwestern portion of the site and this has been done.
The grass pavers would allow for connection between the dead-end drives. Thus, in the event
emergency vehicles would have to access the back of the site, they would be able to travel through
the grass pavers to exit the project and fire/emergency vehicles would not have to reverse to exit.
The site plan now addresses the concerns and needs of the DOCS Staff, the CRC, the School
Transportation Dept., and emergency service vehicles.
The landscape plan provides for plantings along the perimeter, the internal courtyard areas, and the
internal drive areas. Base building landscaping has also been provided. It is the petitioner’s
understanding that no landscape issues exist and the plans have been reviewed by Scott Brewer,
Urban Forester for the City.
The building elevations for the project will be brick, excluding the windows and the gables. The
proposed lighting for the site was reviewed during the rezone process.
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The entry wall treatment adjacent to 136 Street was shown. The wall is constructed of brick, and
consists of a limestone cap.
Seas Sullivan distributed to the Commission a copy of a letter and commitments that were made as a
part of the rezone process at the Council level. The petitioner has agreed to dedicate land to the City
at no charge so the City can construct the Cool Creek North Trail extension. The petitioner has also
committed to provide the City $8,000 in funds towards the construction of the trail. The Department
of Engineering and representatives of the Parks Department had advised the petitioner in 2004 that
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they were not certain that the Cool Creek Trail extension would actually occur on the petitioner’s
property or just to the north. Even though there were some unresolved issues regarding the location
of the trail, nonetheless, the petitioner agreed to dedicate the land to accommodate, if on the
petitioner’s site, and also agreed to donate funds for the construction of the trail. It should be clear,
however, that it is the City’s obligation and responsibility to actually construct the trail.
In summary, the petitioner is seeking ADLS/DP approval for this site, previously rezoned to a PUD.
The petitioner believes he is in compliance with the terms of the approved PUD, and looks forward
to attending the Special Studies Committee on March 31, 2005.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to this petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Department Comments: Jon Dobosiewicz called attention to a letter that was included with the
information packets—a letter from Ann Brooke, Smokey Row Road, dated March 3, 2005 regarding
drainage. At the Committee level, the Department would like to walk the Plan Commission through
the drainage concerns/questions. Written agreement regarding the Cool Creek North Trail should be
provided by the applicant as well as the design of the internal drives in the northwest portion of the
site.
Ann Brooke, Smokey Row Road, addressed the Commission and stated the petitioner had spent a lot
of time with her working through the drainage and that the petitioner is doing the best he can.
The Department had requested a sidewalk connection between First Avenue drive and internal to
their site. The petitioner has indicated that this will be done. There was a remaining issue regarding
access to this site and that has subsequently been resolved.
Wayne Haney asked that the parking be further clarified at the Committee level.
Docket No. 05010045 DP, Traditions on the MononSubdivision Committee
was referred to the
for further review on Thursday, Mary 31, 2005 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
4h. Docket No. 05010036 PP: Bentley Subdivision - Primary Plat
The applicant seeks to plat a residential subdivision of 1 lot on 1 acre. The site is
located at 11550 Towne Road and is zoned S1/Residential.
Filed by Stanley Bentley.
Stanley Bentley, 5830 Brobeck Lane, Indianapolis appeared before the Commission representing the
applicant. A one-lot residential subdivision is planned for construction at the southwest corner of
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116 and Town Road and the applicant is seeking formal approval. A one-acre lot is being carved
out of an eight-acre tract owned by Mr. Brobeck’s daughter.
The applicant appeared before the Technical Advisory Committee and the only real comment was a
question relative to how the sewage would be handled. The design is on going and the petitioner is
in contact with the Clay Township Regional Waste District. Benchmark Engineering will be doing
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the engineering work and the plan is to tie into one of the interceptors either along 116 Street or the
Huntington Chase Subdivision.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to the petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Department Comments: Jon Dobosiewicz said there is one issue outstanding in regard to the
rendering that was submitted. There is a small corner of the site that falls within the 70-foot one-half
right-of-way of Towne Road and this would need to be dedicated. The Secondary Plat would need
to be revised to reflect the dedication of public right-of-way. If the Committee feels it is appropriate,
the Department requests consideration of suspending the Rules of Procedure and approving the
Primary Plat this evening.
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Jerry Chomanczuk asked whether or not this property falls within the 116 Street Overlay and
whether or not there would be an easement for driveway access.
Mr. Bentley said the driveway situation was discussed with the County Highway Department. When
Towne Road was re-located 4 or 5 years ago and moved perhaps 300 feet to the west to join up with
the north extension of Towne Road that goes by the Village of WestClay, the “Old Towne Road”
was left intact and adjoins the subject property. The intention is to make the driveway entrance onto
Old Towne Road that already has an existing cut into the “new” Towne Road. The petitioner will
not cross his daughter’s property.
Dianna Knoll made formal motion to suspend the Rules of Procedure, seconded by Jerry
Chomanczuk and Approved 9-0.
Docket No. 05010036 PP, Bentley Subdivision, Primary
Dianna Knoll moved for approval of
Plat,, APPROVED
seconded by Jerry Chomanczuk 9-0.
5h. Docket Nos. 05010022 OA & 05010023 Z: Amendment, 116th Street Overlay
The applicant seeks to create Chapter 23G: 116th Street Overlay of the Carmel/Clay
Zoning Ordinance. The applicant also seeks to rezone multiple parcels from S-
1/Residence and S-2/Residence District Classifications to the S-1/Residence- 116th
Street Overlay, and S-2/Residence- 116th Street Overlay District Classifications.
Filed by the Carmel Department of Community Services.
Jon Dobosiewicz appeared before the Plan Commission representing the applicant. This particular
petition originated with discussion at the Council level. The properties included on the map are
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contiguous with 116 Street and run from Spring Mill Road west to the County Line; those parcels
would be adopted as part of an Overlay. Each individual property owner as well as those that meet
the notice requirements within the Ordinance for a rezone have received certified mail notice letters
with regard to this request.
The Overlay boundary would establish very few additional standards and those would include a
modification to require a minimum of a three-acre lot size and a prohibition against the adjacent
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parcels to be platted as prescribed in Chapter 7 of the Subdivision Control Ordinance—the ROSO
plat requirements.
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The Plan Commission was given two transmittal letters this evening. One letter from 116 & Towne
Road Partners represents University High School and asks that a portion of their property be
excluded along the south end of their site, and the Department has no objection to this request. The
Department has proposed certain modifications to the Overlay that would exclude properties or
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portions of parcels that are greater than 990 feet away from 116 Street, exactly 3/16 of a mile.
The Department is recommending that this item be forwarded to the Committee if there are
additional questions; if not, the recommendation is to forward this item on to the City Council this
evening.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to this petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Rick Ripma asked how this proposal affects sites that are not three acres.
Jon Dobosiewicz responded that any parcel existing today would conform to the Ordinance and
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would not be restricted. Long Branch Subdivision along 116 Street and other existing subdivisions
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along 116 Street would not be affected by this Overlay requirement.
What the ROSO provision allows for is a reduction in the lot size based on the provision of open
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space. It runs counter to a goal of seeing larger, estate lot sizes within the 116 Street corridor. The
restriction in providing ROSO Subdivisions in essence is that it would require those parcels to be
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developed under the existing zoning. For lots that would not abut 116 Street, the existing zoning is
a minimum of 15,000 square foot lot size. Under ROSO, a smaller lot size would be permitted, but
the Overlay would prohibit development under the provisions and actually require a minimum of
three-acre tract sizes for those parcels. The intent is to NOT allow development of subdivisions of
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small lot sizes against 116 Street but rather to maintain some of the existing larger lot sizes along
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116 Street.
Madeleine Torres moved to suspend the Rules of Procedure, seconded by Dan Dutcher, Approved 8
in favor one opposed (Wayne Haney.)
Dan Dutcher made formal motion to: 1) amend the proposal on Docket No. 05010022 OA and
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05010023 Z Amendment, 116 Street Overlay; 2) to NOT encumber parcels 990 feet plus away
from the building line as recommended by the Department; and 3) forward the proposal to the City
Council with a positive recommendation, seconded by Rick Ripma, APPROVED 9-0.
6h. Docket No. 05020023 OA: Amendment, C-1 and C-2 Zoning Districts
The applicant seeks to Amend Chapters 20E: C-1 City Center and 20F: C-2 Old
Town, in order to modify the development standards.
Filed by the Carmel Department of Community Services.
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Jon Dobosiewicz appeared before the Commission representing the Department of Community
Services. There are parcels within the C-1 designation that currently are limited under the Ordinance
by maximum building height size. The Department would like to modify the Ordinance.
The modification would exist within section 20E 04.01 illustrating a maximum height for properties
within the C-1 District adjacent to residential uses—currently the maximum height limitation is 45
feet. From a practical matter, there are not parcels within the C-1 that are adjacent to residential
uses that are undeveloped. The proposed language would apply to undeveloped parcels within the
C-1 District that primarily exist today, namely the southwest corner of Range Line Road and City
Center Drive. The height limitation would change from 45 feet to 150 feet and where the parcels are
adjacent to other uses such as commercial or industrial, it would allow an increase in height from 55
feet to 150 feet, measured from street grade.
The other section is relative to Section 20E. 04.02 regarding commercial and Civic uses, again
modifying the height limitation from 45 feet and 85 feet respectively to 150 feet without a
modification relative to the adjacent zoning. The Ordinance would allow commercial and civic uses
and residential buildings. We will no longer draw a distinction whether it is a residential building or a
commercial building. We basically are looking at a modification from 85 feet to 150 feet.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of or opposition to this petition; no one
appeared and the public hearing was closed.
Jerry Chomanczuk asked if 150 feet translated into a 15-story building—the response was negative.
Jon Dobosiewicz thought there were 2 or 3 single family residences between Carmel Drive and City
Center Drive to the north, along the east side of Range Line Road. The Department has met with
Les Olds, Redevelopment Director, and asked him what he thought the zone should provide for—
Les Olds suggested the number 150 feet. Upon reviewing this proposal, the Council could amend
the proposal and allow a reduction in height or a maximum number of occupiable floors.
Jerry Chomanczuk commented that he would prefer more discussion at the Committee level—it
would be interesting to see an elevation of some sort; Leo Dierckman concurred.
Docket No. 05020023 OA Amendment, C-1 and C-2 Zoning Districts
, was referred to the
Subdivision Committee
for further review on Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 7:00 PM in the Caucus
Rooms of City Hall.
Note:
The Commission requested that Les Olds be available at the Committee level to elaborate on
the C-1 and C-2 City Center Zoning Districts.
I. Old Business:
1i. Docket No. 04120019 DP Amend/ADLS:
West Carmel Center Block C - Medford Place
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The petitioner proposes a new commercial structure, parking, and signage. The site is
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located at the southeast corner of 106 Street and Michigan Road. The site is zoned
B3/Business and is within the US 421 Corridor Overlay.
Filed by Craig May for PR Block C, LLC.
Allen Fetahagie, American Consulting Engineers appeared before the Plan Commission representing
the applicant. The petitioner proposes a commercial structure, parking, and signage at the southeast
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corner of 106 Street and Michigan Road.
The petitioner appeared before the Special Study Committee for review and was given a positive
recommendation.
Jerry Chomanczuk reported for the committee. This particular building is straight-forward, it is an
attractive buiding and is in harmony with other buildings in the area. The Committee voted 4-0
positive recommendation.
Department Comments, Jon Dobosiewicz said the Department is recommending approval of the
DP/Amend/ADLS, subject to the two conditions listed in the Department report.
Jerry Chomanczuk moved for approval of Docket No. 04120019 DP Amend/ADLS, West Carmel
Center Block C, Medford Place, conditioned upon provisions identified by the Department regarding
the signage, seconded by Dianna Knoll, APPROVED 9-0.
2i. Docket No. 05010030 CA: 116th/Keystone Retail Shops
The petitioner proposes revised commitment amendment text. The site is located at
the northeast corner of 116th St. and Keystone Ave. The site is zoned B-3 within the
US 431 Overlay Zone.
Filed by Matt Skelton of Bingham McHale for Eclipse Real Estate.
Steve Hardin, attorney, Bingham, McHale, 970 Logan Street, Noblesville appeared before the
Commission representing Eclipse Real Estate. Also in attendance: Brian Chandler and Drew
Warner, Eclipse Realty.
The petitioner appeared before the Special Study Committee requesting an amendment to the
Commitment to enable Starbucks to have one, after-hours delivery to the Center. This is a re-
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development project located at the northeast corner of 116 and Keystone Avenue.
Mr. Hardin stated that the petitioner has worked with the Department Staff and the Commission/
Committee and respectfully requests approval at this time.
Jerry Chomanczuk reported for the Committee. The crux of the issue revolves around the delivery
time for Starbuck’s that would be between 10:00 PM and 6:00 AM, but could not be pinpointed.
There were remonstrators who did a considerable amount of homework to survey the other
Starbuck’s as far as time frames, etc. There was discussion/requests for additional landscaping and
fencing. The Committee voted 4-0 favorable recommendation for approval.
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Jerry Chomanczuk requested that the petitioner be somewhat sympathetic for the families that are
near to the development. There was still concern that any delivery would be disruptive in the
evening hours, however, the Committee felt that the petitioner had made all possible efforts to
accommodate.
Department Comments, Jon Dobosieiwciz said the Department is recommending approval of the
Commitment Amendments based on the report from the Committee.
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Docket No. 05010030 CA, 116/Keystone Retail Shops,
Jerry Chomanczuk moved for approval of
APPROVED
seconded by Madeleine Torres, 9-0.
3i. Proposed Amendments to Rules of Procedure
-Changes regarding meeting time and agenda order to be considered
Leo Dierckman reported that the Executive Committee had recommended approval of the change in
time for the start of the Plan Commission meetings from 7:00 to 6:00 PM. Plan Commission public
hearings would begin at 6:00 PM on April 19, 2005, Committee meetings would begin at 6:00 on
May 3, 2005.
Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. The Department is recommending that the Plan Commission
adopt the rule change to begin the meetings at 6:00 PM rather than 7:00 PM. Once adopted, the
new Rules of Procedure would be distributed at the April meeting.
Dianna Knoll moved to approve the amendment to the Rules of Procedure to start the meetings at
, APPROVED
6:00 PM rather than 7:00 PM, seconded by Jerry Chomanczuk 9-0.
J. New Business
1j. Docket No. 05030001 DP/ADLS Amend: Carmax Auto Superstore
The applicant seeks to modify five existing signs. The site is located at 9750 Gray
Road and is zoned B3-Business.
Filed by E. Davis Coots for Carmax Auto Superstores.
Dave Coots, attorney, Coots, Henke & Wheeler, 255 East Carmel Drive appeared before the
Commission representing the Carmax Auto Superstores.
Carmax was initially approved by the Plan Commission in 2002. The Special Study Committee
approved blue lettering for the signage; however, when illuminated at night, the letters are very
difficult to read. The proposed amendment allows for the blue lettering and blue box to remain as is.
Hopefully, at night, the light will shine through the blue face and the letters will be readable.
Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. The item before the Commission is an ADLS Amendment.
Typically this item would be sent to Committee, however, because of the petitioner’s advance filing
and their ability to get a report, the Department felt it was appropriate to bring this item before the
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full Commission this evening. It does not require that the Commission send this to Committee if they
feel comfortable voting on this item this evening. Clarification: The sign is being changed from
individual channel letter faces from illuminating blue to illuminating white.
At this time, Dave Coots presented a visual of the proposed signage so there was absolutely no
question as to what it would look like.
Docket No. 05030001 DP/ADLS Amend, Carmax Auto
Dan Dutcher moved for approval of
Superstore,APPROVED
seconded by Rick Ripma, 9-0.
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned at 8:25
PM.
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Leo Dierckman, President
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Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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