HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes SpecStdy 06-27-12City of Carmel
Carmel Plan Commission
SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 Meeting
Members Present: John Adams, Steve Lawson, Alan Potasnik, Kevin "Woody" Rider, Steve Stromquist
DOCS Staff: Sign Specialist Rachel Boone; Planning Administrator Alexia Donahue -Wold; Legal Counsel
John Molitor
Also Present: Ramona Hancock, Plan Commission Secretary
The Special Studies Committee considered the following items:
1. Docket No. 12060004 ADLS Amend: Auburn Woods Park - Signage. (Formerly known as Majestic Corner
Plaza.) The applicant seeks approval for a new sign package for this office park. It includes wall, ground, directory,
and directional signs. The site is located at 9640, 9650, 9660 N. Augusta Dr. and is zoned B -5 /Business. It is located
within the US 421 Overlay Zone. Filed by Don Miller of A Sign By Design on behalf of the owner.
Present for Petitioner Don Miller, A Sign By Design, Zionsville.
Overview:
• New Sign Package for Autumn Woods Office Park
• Re- facing Entrance Monument Sign - not changing square footage
• Proposal includes one directional sign, 5 X 4 sq ft directory sign at the front of each of the 3 bldgs with tenants
listed;
• Directional, Directory, & Entrance Signs are not illuminated
• Signage will consist of two per bldg, one per street frontage
• Signs facing east, away from residential, will be illuminated - goose -neck lighting
Dept Comments, Rachel Boone:
• Comprehensive Sign Package nicely done
• Sign sizes are allowable within the Sign Ordinance
• Concern was illumination facing north towards residents
• Petitioner agrees that 3 bldg directory signs, one directional and entrance monument re- facing will be non -
illuminated
• Sign pkg includes two future tenant bldg wall signs per bldg plus one per street frontage -- illuminated
• Dept supports the proposed sign package
Motion: Woody Rider to approve Docket No. 12060004 ADLS Amend, Auburn Woods Park Signage, seconded by
John Adams, Approved 5 -0.
Docket No. 12050018 ADLS Amend: (Hamilton Crossing West) Little Star Center - Signage.
The applicant seeks approval to place one new wall sign on the east elevation of the building. The site is located at
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12726 Hamilton Crossing Blvd. (Building 1) and is zoned B -5 /Business. It is located within the US 31 Overlay
Zone. Filed by Steve Granner of Bose McKinney & Evans, on behalf of Little Star Center.
Present for Petitioner: Steve Granner, Zoning Consultant, Bose, McKinney & Evans LLP, 111 Monument Circle, Suite
2700, Indianapolis; Dewayne McCoy, Little Star Center; Mary Rosserrman, Executive Director of Little Star Center
Overview:
• Petitioner has previous Special Use Approval for use
• Granted Variance Monday eve by BZA to move current sign to east facade
• Request for One new wall sign on east elevation
• Site is Bldg 1 at Hamilton Crossing Blvd
• Signage is for a pre- school
Dept Report, Rachel Boone:
• Petitioner received approval for sign facing private street rather than public
• Proposed Sign meets the Ordinance for size & placement
• Dept is in support & recommends favorable consideration
Motion: Woody Rider to approve Docket No. 12050018 ADLS Amend, Little Star Center Signage, seconded by Alan
Potasnik, Approved 5 -0
3. Docket No. 12040023 ADLS Amend: Franciscan St. Francis Health — Signage.
The applicant seeks approval to reface an existing ground sign at the north entrance and add a new identical ground
sign at the south entrance. The site is located at 12188 N Meridian St. and is zoned B -6 /Business within the US 31
Overlay. Filed by Steve Granner of Bose McKinney & Evans for HCRI Carmel Building A. Medical Facility, LLC
and HCRI Carmel Building B. Medical Facility, LLC.
Present for Petitioner: Steve Granner, Bose McKinney & Evans, 111 Monument Circle, Indianapolis, Indiana.
Overview:
• Two Buildings, same address
• Confusion for public with bldg A & bldg B
• Platted as Lot 1 for Bldg B; Bldg A is Lot 2
• Need Way - finding signs
• New Directory & 4 directional signs
• New Wall sign
• Tenant panels would be same height, size & materials as existing bldg
Dept Comments, Rachel Boone:
• Larger "A" & "B" is a good option
• Height Variance was approved at BZA
• Orientation of sign facing Illinois is OK
• Two items for approval this evening: ADLS Amend; Commitment Amendment for height & number of panels
• New design is consistent & attractive
• Petitioner must return for directional signs taller than 3 sq feet
• Wall sign will also need a variance as well
• Dept is in support of all ADLS Amendment items conditioned upon Variance approvals as necessary
• Dept is in support of 8 foot height for Commitment Amendment
• Dept is not in support of 8 tenant panels
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Open discussion by Committee members regarding tenant signs and traffic flow, aesthetics of the signs and necessity.
Motion: Woody Rider to approve Docket No. 12040023 ADLS Amend, Franciscan St. Francis Health Center, as
presented to Committee in hand -outs at Committee this evening, conditioned upon BZA approval of the variances,
seconded by Steve Lawson, Approved 5 -0.
4. Docket No. 12040020 CA: Franciscan St. Francis Health, North Meridian Medical Pavilion. The applicant
seeks approval to amend prior commitments regarding signage. The site is located at 12188 N. Meridian St. and is
zoned B -6 /Business within the US 31 Corridor Overlay Zone. Filed by Steve Granner of Bose McKinney & Evans
for HCRI Carmel Building A Medical Facility, LLC and HCRI Carmel Building B. Medical Facility, LL C.
Present for Petitioner: Steve Granner, Bose McKinney & Evans, LLP, 111 Monument Circle, Indianapolis, Indiana
Overview:
• Commitments were amended in 2008 to allow the north sign to go in at 8 feet
• Amendment will allow the same height of sign to go on the south bldg, (8 feet)
• Petitioner agrees to limit both signs to 4 panels
• All other Commitments would remain intact
Dept Comments, Rachel Boone:
• Committee has final voting authority for Commitment Amendment
• Petitioner is withdrawing request for 8 panels
• Petitioner `s request remains for 8 foot height
• Dept is in support of Commitment Amendment
Motion: Woody Rider to approve Docket No. 12040020 CA Franciscan St. Francis Health, North Meridian Medical
Pavilion, as submitted this evening; seconded by Alan Potasnik, Approved 5 -0.
5. TABLED TO AUG. 7: Docket No. 12030010 DP Amend /ADLS: The Centre, Part B -- Southeast Corner
Retail Building.
6. Docket No. 11120027 Z: Highpointe on Meridian PUD.
The applicant seeks approval to rezone 27 acres to PUD /Planned Unit Development for commercial, office, and
residential uses. The site is located at the southwest corner of 136th St. & Illinois St. It is zoned B -5 /Business within
the US 31 Corridor Overlay Zone. Filed by Paul Reis of Krieg Devault for Frank Regan, owner.
Present for Petitioner: Paul Reis, Krieg Devault, 12800 N. Meridian Street, Carmel; representing JC Hart Co., Spectrum
Retirement Co. , Opus Group, and Frank Regan, property owner.
Overview:
• Petitioner has had numerous meetings to discuss issues final meeting today with Urban Forester re landscaping
provisions in the PUD
• Red -line of proposed PUD was gone over & changes highlighted following previous discussions: 1) Permitted
uses - CCRC as defined by Carmel Zoning Ordinance 2) Definitions 3) Architectural Design Requirements &
roof lines
• Proposed PUD classification would permit multi - family land uses not currently permitted in the Overlay Zone.
• Signage - changes made as requested, maximum sign area in compliance with Carmel Ordinance
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• Signs facing multi- family cannot be illuminated
Dept Report, Alexia Donahue -Wold:
• Some changes made to PUD
• Would like petitioner to be in compliance with current Ordinance, A, B, C, E, H of Dept Report
• Bike Parking: Public Bike Parking should meet current zoning ordinance for multi - family housing
• Request clarification -- Foundation plantings facing Illinois Street excluded
• Petitioner not committing to some items in concept plan
• Dept recommends possible consideration and return to Plan Commission
Members of Public in attendance:
• Mary Hogan, Bentley Oaks, submitted written statement signed by 22 of 49 property owners adjacent to the
parcel for development - -all stating concerns
• Brad Cisco, President, Parks at Springmill OA, concern with bldg height, traffic & density
• Debbie Hennessey, 271 Pokagon, Carmel. Traffic flow is a major concern
• Margaret Abbott, 3012 Thistlewood: Apartments change entire atmosphere of property from purchase; multi-
family not needed
• Jim Sanchez„ Bentley Oaks: Proposal ignores requirements of privacy, security & safety. No plan seen for
fencing.
• Noel TenEyk: Plans were not formed & addressed before returning to Plan Commission.
Commission Members' Comments:
• Northing seen in the proposal to enhance quality of life
• Apartments proposed in an area not designated for this type of use & density
• Not appropriate use for thes parcel & mis -use of the PUD
• Not Comfortable supporting this proposal
• Too many different types of use in small space
Dept Additional Comments:
Buffers, ponds, eight and scale of mass, addition of more greensapce, all have been addressed. Height of bldg reduced
for senior living adjacent to multi - family
Much discussion regarding use of the site, adjacent neighborhoods, and transitional use.
Motion: Alan Potasnik to forward Docket No. 11120027 Z, Highpointe on Meridian PUD, to Plan Commission with a
positive recommendation, seconded by Woody Rider, One in favor, Four opposed, (Potasnik, Adams, Lawson,
Stromquist)
7. Docket No. 11090004 OA: Sign Ordinance Update.
The applicant seeks approval to amend Chapter 25.07: Sign Ordinance of the Zoning Ordinance in order to update
and revise the regulations for signage, as well as amend/update Chapter 3: Definitions, Chapter 19: B- /Business
District, Chapter 20E:C -1 /City Center District, Chapter 20F:C -2 /OId Town District, Chapter 20G: OM /Old
Meridian District, Chapter 23B: US Highway 31 Corridor Overlay Zone, Chapter 23C: US Highway 421 Michigan
Road Corridor Overlay Zone, Chapter 23D: Old Town District Overlay Zone, Chapter 23E: Home Place District
Overlay Zone; Chapter 23F: Carmel Drive Range Line Road Overlay Zone, Chapter 23H: Monon Greenway Overlay
Zone, Chapter 24: Development Plan and Architectural Design, Exterior Lighting, Landscaping & Signage
Regulations, Chapter 25. Additional Use Regulations, and Chapter 29: Administration. Filed by the Carmel
Department of Community Services on behalf of the Carmel Plan Commission.
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Present for Petitioner: Rachel Boone, Dept of Community Services
Committee Discussion regarding New Definition, Application Process /directions on website, and other
miscellaneous items.
Sign Ordinance was continued to the July 6, 2012 Committee meeting.
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Ramona Hancock, Secretary
Steve Stromq - ist, Chairperson
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