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City of'Carmel
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
November 16, 2004
Minutes
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Cannel Plan Commission met November 16, 2004 at 7:00 PM
in the Council Chambers of City Hall. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance.
Members Present were Jerry Chomanczuk; Leo Dierckman; Dan Dutcher; Wayne Haney; Dianna
, ,Knoll; Mark Rattermann; Rick Ripma; Madeleine Torres; Susan Westenneier
The Depart~ent of Community Services was represented by Mike Hollibaugh, Director; Jon ,
Dob<;>siewicz; Adrienne Keeling. John Molitor, Legal Counsel was also in attendance.'
The minutes of the October 19, 2004 meeting were approved as submitted.
G. Reports.. Announcements.. & Department Concerns, Jon Dobosiewicz. There are three
items on, the Agenda-4, 5, arid 6h-all dealing with North Meridian Medical Pavilion, and the
Department suggests that the hearing, <?n those three items be held simultaneously.
H. Public Hearings:
lh. Docket No. 04080056 PP: Villas at Morgan's Creek - Primary Plat
The applicant seeks to plat a .residential subdivision of 11 lots on 6.39 acres. The
petitioner also seeks the following subdivision waivers:
Docket No. 04080057 SW: ,SCO,6.03.07....: Street Layout & Design Standards
Docket No. 04080058 SW: seo 7.05.07 - Woodlands
The site'is located at 14309 Gray Road. The site is zoned S l/Residence.
Filed by Adam DeHart of Keeler Webb Associates ,for Covenant'Gro,up, LLC.
Adam DeHart, Keeler Webb Associates, and Jerry Corbier, Corbier Traditions, custom homebuilder
were present representing the applicant. The open space schedule has been updated as well as the
primary plat/landscaping. The petitione.~ is requesting primary plat approval of a 12-10t subdivision
together with two S,ubdivision W aviers:' one for street layout and design, the other for clearing of
woodlands/scrub trees being removed from the site.
The subject property has the following boundaries: Gray Road on the west; low-density residential
on the north; Northeast by a wooded area designated as a wildlife preserve and owned by a private
individual; Woo'dfield 8ubdivis,ion on the east and south; West, and across Gray Road is the
Oakbrool( Subdivision. The subj ect site and all surrounding properties are zoned 8-1.
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Dianna Knoll mqved for appro,val of Docket No. '04080042 DP/Amend/ADLS, Kentucky Fried
ChickenlLongJohn Silver's, with the inclusions of the 45 foot one-half right-of-way
dedication, seconded by Madeleine Torres, APPROVED 9-0.
, 5i.' Docket No. 04080060 DP/ADLS: l16th Street eentre
The applicant proposes to construct two mixed-use office/retail buildings. The site is
located at the northwest-comer ofl1pth St and Guilford Road. The site is zoned B-2.
Filed by Joe Calderon of Ice Miller for Equicor Development, Inc.
Joe Calderon,attomey with Ice, Miller appeared before the Commission representing the applicant.
The subject site has been tmough the rezone process and has been reviewed by the Special Study
Committee. The prop~rty is at the northwest comer of 116th and Gililford Road.
The petitioner has agreed to dedicate a 40-foot one-halfrigllt-of-way along Guilford Road. The
petitioner has' also agreed to limit the colors on signage. Logos can be treated differently and have
more thaIl two colors (for instance, Starbucks). Logos will be limited to 25% of the sign square
footage. T~lere some 'signs that are tenant identification signs at the ~ear of the buildings; these signs
will be kept consistent and the colors will be limited and the lettering will also be consistent. The
dumpster enclosure will have the same bri'ck materials as the building, and the two "swing" doors
were made a little taller.
The petitioner has agreed to provide access to the property to the west, provided that the adjoining
property owner and'the petitioner can agree to reasonable terms. The petitioner has also agreed to
work with the Department of Engineering in respect to any lighting fixture that may be on the right-
of-way.
Finally, the revised landscape plan was submitted to the Urban Forester. The Urban Forester
requested tllat Hawthomes be replaced, and those have been replaced with Serviceberry trees.
There was discussion regarding window treatment, and the petitioner agreed to no decals,on the
windows and there would be a consistent, interior shade for ,all tenants to effect consistency from
the street view. The glass ,in the windows is clear, insulated glass.
The last issue concerned a wall in the W oodpark Neighborhood that would buffer their residential
neighborllood from the proposed project and aiso help mitigate the effects of the 116th Street
expaIlsion project. Currently, there is an entry wall along 116th Street in the Woodpark
Subdivision. The residents of W oodpark desired to extend the height 0 the wall in W oodpark.
Upon examining the existing wall, the petitioner felt it would be difficult to extend, engineering
wise. The petitioner proposed landscaping or contrib'-ltion of a sum of money to whatever type of
buffer W oodpark deems suitable.'
Jerry Chomanczuk reported that the Special Study Committee' had reviewed this proposal and had
voted a 3-0 favorable recommendation. The favorable recommendation was conditioned upon the
following: Dedication of right-of-way along Guilford Road, and acceptance of efforts made by the
petitioner to address the buffer concerns of the residents in'W oodpark on the south side of 116th
Street. . The residents would like an 8.;. foot fence; the Committee was not certain what an appropriate
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height would be but a six-foot fence was discussed.
Department Report, Jon Dobosiewicz. Item Number 1 in the Department Report should recite
dedication of a 40-foot one-half right-of-way along the full extent of Guilford Road rather than
45 feet. The Department is recommending approval of the DP/ADLS as amended by the applicant's
response this evening.
Mark RattenTIann moved for approval of Docket No. 04080060 DP/ADLS, 116th Street Centre,
seconded by Madeleine Torres, APPROVED 9-0.
6i. Docket No. 04070034 Z: Traditions on the Monon PUD
The applicant seeks to rezone approximately 11 acres fr'om R-I/Residence and B-
2/Business Classifications to PUD/Planned Unit Development. The site is located
~orthwest of 136th Street and Range Line Road. ,
Filed by Jim Shinaver of Nelson & Frankenberger for Buckingham Properties, Inc.
Jim Shinaver, attorney with Nelson & Frankenberger appeared before the Commission representing
the applicant. Also in attendance: David Leazenby, Buckingham Properties; Sean Sullivan, Centex
Homes; Gary Murray and Chad Karum, Mid-States Engineering.
The real estate is approximately 12.2 acres, bordered on the west by the Monon Trail, on tIle south
by 136th Street, and on the east by Range Line Road. The current use of the real estate is B-2
Business with a small amount zoned R-l Residence'. The proposed development received a
favorable recommendation from the Subdivision'Committee.
David Leazenby then addressed the Commission. Additional r~al estate has been added since the
initial filing to bring the development to a total of 12.2'acres. The site plan has also changed and
integrates more with the street network of Old Town. Parking spaces have been: added, now 95-up
from 66 guest spaces.' Land-bank parking spaces have also been created for future use.
Lighting has been added 'at some of the intersections of tIle project. Also, the applicant has met with
Ron Farrand of the Carmel Schools regarding the school buses navigating the project area, and the
school is satisfied with the proposal.
Landscaping has been sigIiificantly up'-graded, and Scott Brewer, the City Urban Forester has given
his approval to the plan. The applicant has met with the Carmel Clay Parks Board regarding the
trail extension. A portion of the land will be utilized for the trail extension and a park as well.
Jim Shinaver summarized by saying the proposed development provides an appropriate and
reasonable transition from more intense commercial uses to the north and east, and residential uses
from the south and west. At this time, the petitioner is seeking rezone approval only, not DP/ADLS
approval. If the rezone is granted, the petitioner will return with a Development Plan and ADLS for
approval at a later date.
Dan Dutcher reported for the Subdivision Committee who felt that this proposal is an appropriate
use and supported the c~ncept behind the change in zoning, obviously noting that more details will
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