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Conn, Angelina V
From: Brewer, Scott I
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:16 PM
To: 'Kenneth Simpson'; Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: RE: Carmel Clay Historical Society
Dear Ken:
I have received the plans.
My first suggestion was to move the proposed structure slightly to the north to avoid the largest two of the four
trees and try to preserve them. Obviously you have not chosen to do that.
My second suggestion was made to try and consider the tree mass that is there now, which you are removing to
construct a building connected to a Carmel Park, and to mitigate that loss in fairness to your clients and the public
patrons of the Monon, the neighbors, and the City's interests. I did not think of this as the Carmel Historical
Society having to fight "City Hall", but rather wanting to be a good example in development for public access.
I would hope that you would think the Planning and Zoning Department would do the same for any developer in
Carmel, and expect us to oversee the balance of development and preservation for all the City's benefit.
Scott Brewer, City Forester
Environmemntal Planner, DOCS
City of Carmel,
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
PH: 317-571-2478
FAX: 317-571-2426
From.' Kenneth Simpson [mailto:klsimpson@insightbb.com]
Sent-' Friday, September 23, 2005 2:23 PH
To'- Brewer, Scott I
Cc.' Hike Balay
Subject.' Carmel Clay Historical Society
Scott,
Here is a revised drawing that shows 5 new trees, as you have suggested. If you look at the site, we already have 2
each 24" trees and 3. ea 27" trees, among others, that exist in the area where we are placing the small addition. I
feel adding these 5 trees will make the area very congested. A good portion of the land shown is not our property and
we can not place trees on land that is not owned by the museum. You can see the property lines on the drawngs.
One of the 5 trees was added on the north side of the existing museum to thin out the congestion.
We feel we have no choice but to accept your decision as we are not set up to fight "City Hall". No one is upset with
you, it is only that we feel that there is just not enough room for 5 more trees. We would appreciate your quick
response as we have a meeting with the City on Monday night and hope to obtain approval.
Thank you.
Ken
Kenneth Leo Simpson, P.E.
9/26/2005
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Brewer, Scott I
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:54 PM
To: 'Kenneth Simpson'
Cc: Conn, Angelina V; Schmiesing, Rebecca; Snyder, M Todd
Subject: RE: Carmel Clay Historical Society
Dear Ken:
I thought you had said I would be getting updated plans? I now have a copy of the Plan Commissio'n submittal
from Angie Conn. I now have a demolition plan as well. I was unaware that to build this structure, they will have
to remove 4 mature trees, one of which is 18" in diameter. If these are the same trees you sent me a picture of
the last time, they are substantial. The neighbors to the west of this parcel have already contacted me about
wanting to plant more large maturing shade trees on this site, before they were aware of the building addition and
the removal of landscaping.
My first suggestion would be to move this structure to the north, and at least preserve the largest two trees. I can
provide you with tree preservation BMP's if you need them.
My next suggestion is that if the building must be built exactly where it is planned now, you come back with a
much more substantial landscape plan, that shows the planting of at least 5 large maturing shade trees (of at
least 3 species) such as oak Quercus (not pin oak), tulip tree Liriodendron, Kentucky coffeetree Gymnoclanus
dioica, or Yellowwood Cladrastis kentukea.
The Carmel Parks Department Maintenance staff (Todd Synder or Becky Schmiesing) might also has suggestions
on landscaping the entrance to the path from the Monon Trail. This path or sidewalk should appear as an
integrated connection to the trail.
Please reply to these comments in writing and by amended plan.
Scott Brewer, City Forester
Environmental Planner, DOCS
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
PH: 317-571-2478
FAX 317-571-2426
From: Kenneth Simpson [mailto:klsimpson@insightbb.com]
Sent-' Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:06 AM
To-' Brewer, Scott I
Subject-' Carmel Clay Historical Society
Good morning Scott,
Have you had a chance to review this site? It's pretty simple and a small one at that.
Please advise.
Thank you.
Ken
9/22/2005
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Kenneth Leo Simpson, P.E.
ENGINEER ASSOCIATES, Inc.
.1.05.~4 Chestnut Hill Circle
Fishers, IN 46037 (new zip code!!)
317.84.~-3:t13 (phone)
317-84~-9300 (fax)
317-507-:1.509 (cell)
klsimpson@insightbb.com
9/22/2005
Conn, Angelina V
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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:38 AM
Conn, Angelina V
RE: Carmel clay historical society & 10' strip of land east of them
I would expect the property to remain with the City, with an easement or encroachment agreement allowing the Historical
Society to be there.
Douglas Haney
WARNIN(i~ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTIiCE
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From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:49 PM
To: Haney, Douglas C
Cc: Hollibaugh, Mike P
Subject: Carmel clay historical society & 10' strip of land east of them
Good Afternoon, Doug:
I am working on reviewing the BZA use variance petition for this property at 211 First street sw, just west of the Monon
trail, can you please fill me in on the details of the type of agreement the City will have with the Historical Society,
regarding the 10-ft strip of land just east of their lot? will the City still own the land, but allow the proposed structure to
be placed on City land? or will the 10-ft strip of land somehow be deeded over to the Carmel Clay Historical Society?
thanks for your help!
Sincerely,
Angie Conn
Planning Administrator
Division of Planning & Zoning
Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN46032 p317.571.2417 f 317. 571. 2426
www.carmel.in.gov
aconn@carmel.in.gov
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August 16, 2005
Carmel/Clay Historic Society
ATTN: Tom Rumer
211 First Street SW
Carmel, IN 46032
RE' Carmel/Clay Historic Society
Dear Mr. Rumer:
We have reviewed the submittal to the Hamilton County Surveyor's Office on August 2,
2005 for this project and have the following comments:
1. This proposed project falls within the incorporated area of the City of Carmel.
2. The proposed project DOES fall in a Carmel Well Head Protection Zone.
3. The proposed project falls within the Follett Morrow Regulated Drain Watershed.
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In previous review of this site, it was discovered the Follett Morrow Regulated Drain
would only be 3.5 feet from the drain. The last information is our file says that the
building needs to be at least 10 feet from the drain. It looks like the options were to
move the drain or move the building.
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The HCSO will require a non-enforcement agreement for the encroachment into the
regulated drain easement. The application is available on our website at
http://www.co.hamilton.in.us, go to Departments, Surveyor, and Forms.
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The HCSO will waive the detention requirements for this project because the increase
in impervious area is very minimal.
7. Please note the additional comments may be warranted at a later date.
Should you have any questions, I can be reached at 317-776-8495.
Sincerely,
Greg Hoyes
Plan Reviewer
CC:
Matt Griffin- Carmel DOCD
John South- HCSWCD
Dick Hill - Carmel Engineering
Mike McBride- HCHD
Crossroads Engineering
Conn, Angelina V
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Conn, Angelina V
Friday, August 19, 2005 9:12 AM
Tingley, Connie S; 'richart@ameritech.net'; 'Jim Hawkins'; 'Kent Broach'; 'Leo Dierckman ';
'John Molitor'; 'Earlene Plavchak'
Griffin, Matt L; Morrissey, Phyllis G; Littlejohn, David W; Benyola, Linda; Hollibaugh, Mike P;
Haney, Douglas C
Aug 22 - FULL BZA MEETING CANCELLED
Everyone:
the one item on the full BZA agenda for August 22 has been tabled, leading us to cancel the Full BZA meeting for
august 22.
I will also call each board member.
there will still be a BZA Hearing Officer meeting august 22 at 530 pm.
have a great weekend,
angie
Richard, please post the revised agenda for the full BZA meeting ~ aug. 22 on the website and update the Carmel
website calendar for that evening.
20050822.rtl
Phyllis- please repost this agenda on the bulletin board.
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Conn, Angelina V
From' Carmel Clay Historical Society [cchistory@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:36 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: Re' for Tom Rumer- BZA question
Angie'
Have return from out of state but have talked to you on the phone last Thursday, before I got your e-mail
(below) about moving our BZA date to September. We'll shoot for the September meeting, our architect
is working on complete plans for us. As for the questions below, the forester got plans, he and I talked
about them the day after he got them. As for the city engineer and others, I will drop off copies of what
we have now at your office on Monday (have all day conference on Friday and Saturday and must leave
before you office opens). The engineer suggested by our architect has viewed the property and project
and has some comments--I'll drop off a copy of his letter of earlier this week. As for the Drainage
Department's objection, if you send me some details I will have it addressed Monday of next week.
Thanks again. Tom Rumer
"Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn~_~cartnel. in.gov> wrote'
HI, Tom:
I have a quick question:
did you want to remain on the August 22 BZA agenda and present that night? or would you like us to
table your item to the September 26 agenda?
also, comments made at the TAC meeting will be forwarded to you soon. (some departments did not
receive plans .... such as the engineering dept and the urban forester.
the Drainage Dept had an issue with locating near a drain pipe. )
Sincerely,
Angie Conn
Planning Administrator
Division of Planning & Zoning
Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032 p317.571.2417 f317.571.2426
www.carmel.in.gov
aconn@carmel.in.gov
8/19/2005
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August 1, 2005
Dear Carmel/Clay Technical Advisory Committee Member:
Enclosed are plans for a new secure archival structure to be built on the grounds of the Society's
Monon Depot Museum. Complete plans, including all required sets (architecture, engineering,
landscaping, et. al.) will be ready by the August 22nd meeting of the Board of Zoning Appeals.
We hope the complete plans can be ready for the August 17th meeting of the TAC also. We
greatly appreciate that the director and staff of the DOCS are working with the Society to
expedite the appeals process. There have been long delays due to matters on which the Carmel
City Attorney and the DOCS staff are giving the Society considerable consideration.
On the new sets of plans, one change will be made' the location of the planned structure will be
moved closer to the existing structure shown, in order to provide the required distance from a
legal drain running north and south between the planned structure and the eastern boundary of
the Society's property.
Also, the matter of a clear title to the 10 foot strip of ground running north and south at the
eastern edge of the Society' s property, the primary reason for the long delay in the Society's
appeals process, is presently being clarified by Carmel City Attorney Doug Haney along with
counsel for the Society.
Thank you for your consideration.
The Carmel Clay Historical Society
Visit Us At 211 First Street, S.W., Carmel, Indiana 46032
(317) 846-7117
CARMEL CLAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY
WEDNESDAY, July 27
9 A.M.
ANGLE:
HERE ARE THE COMPLETED RELEVANT PAGES OF OUR APPLICATIONS FOR
YOUR CRITIQUE, SUGGESTIONS, ETC. (BEFORE I PREPARE THE PACKETS
FOR THE BZA MEMBERS).
I'LL DROP OFF THE OTHER PAGES AS SOON AS I GET THE MAILINGS OUT
TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP.
TOM RUMER ~
cchi sto~ S B C global, net
www. carmelclayhi story, org
Conn, Angelina V
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Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:37 AM
Anderson, Nathan K; Brewer, Scott I; Conn, Angelina V; Griffin, Matt L; Hollibaugh, Mike P;
Keeling, Adrienne M; Littlejohn, David W; Mindham, Daren
New Submittal
Rec'd this morning:
Archival and Conservation Center
I have given the file to Angie
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Carmel Clay Historical Society [cchistory@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:49 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: RE: for Tom Rumer
Angie'
Re' Carmel Clay Historical Society, petitions for variances, etc.required before placement on August
agenda of BZA:
Although copies of our letter to adjacent property owners have been prepared, the list of adjacent
property owners required from county auditor can not be provided the CCHS until later this week--after
the deadline for notifying property owners. CCHS public notice in Indy Star could be submitted and
printed by the deadline, but I assume that should be coordinated with the mailed notices to property
owners. So, since the complete applications can not be filled out before that notification deadline,
we are now going for the September BZA agenda.
Many thanks to you and Mike for all your help and understanding in expediting the matter. Since we
met last week, our counsel has contacted Doug Haney, our architect is preparing new plans, and I have
notified the city forester about removing building site trees and replacing them elsewhere on the
grounds.
The Society is very thankful to be renewing our building plans; we can look forward to many new local
history projects that have been dependent on our having much more storage space.
I will submit the two applications I picked up at your office yesterday a.m. as soon as I can. Thanks
again. Tom Rumer, CCHS Historian
"Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn~armeLin.gov> wrote:
Hi Tom:
first of all, you need to submit your applications to us, so we can issue the docket numbers, there might
be a way around the parking variance, if you can provide documentation that there are allotted parking
spaces for you at the Monon trail head. if not, you will need to seek the parking variance, also.
also, you need to get the official list of adjoining properties from the Hamilton county auditor's office in
downtown Noblesville.
the public notice deadline is July 28th (Thursday) for the august 22 meeting, you will have to get your
public notice ad to the paper by tomorrow ( Tuesday, noon). But, you will need docket numbers from
our department for each petition, also, the certified mailings to the neighbors must be done by July 28
also, or they hand be hand delivered, but each owner must sign off on the application.
I will have the DSV and the Use variance applications ready for you to pickup today, third floor of city
hall.
see you soon,
angle
7/26/2005
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Conn, Angelina V
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Monday, July 25, 2005 12:58 PM
'Carmel Clay Historical Society'
Hollibaugh, Mike P
Subject: RE: for Tom Rumer- BZA Docket numbers
Tom:
I am going to go ahead and give you the docket numbers, that way you will be able to make public notice
tomorrow, noon, to have the public notice published in the indystar by this Thursday, which is the deadline for the
BZA. I will expect the applications soon.
Docket NO. 05070022 UV
Docket NO. 05070023 V
Docket NO. 05070024 V
Chapter 8.01
Chapter 23D.03.C.3.b
Chapter 27.05
permitted uses
side yard setback
# parking spaces
Sincerely,
Angie Conn
Planning Administrator
Division of Planning & Zoning
Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032 p317.571,2417
www.carmel.in.gov
aconn@carmel.in.gov
f 317.571.2426
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From: Carmel Clay Historical Society [mailto:cchistory@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:57 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: Re: for Tom Rumer
Angie:
Thanks for your message from yesterday. We will make a run for the August 22nd BZA meeting.
If we don't make it, we will have everything in place for the September agenda. But some prelim.
questions:
(1) Does the Indy Star publish the requisite public notice only on Fridays (assuming we can get
docket numbers also by then). And if so, if we get the notice to the Indy Star by Wednes. of next
week, does that count in your time table?
(2) If you leave the variance app. forms for me at the front desk of the DOCS office, I'll pick them
up later this afternoon or Monday morning.
(3) About the parking variance: when the new archival building is built we won't have room for
more than one parking space on that site, but when the parking lot was planned across the Monon
Trail from us, we were told that a few more spaces had been planned to make up for the spaces we
lost when the Second St. SW trailhead was constructed. (Mike spoke earlier about getting a cut
made in mid (our) property for an entry into the grounds here. We are interested in following that
up as well.) That may not change anything as far as the variance needed, but it is background
information in case that didn't make it into our files there at DOCS.
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(4) Am I correct in assuming that the notice to the adjoining property owners of our building plans
must also be delivered to their address by the 28th? If so, that can be done also (I think).
Thanks for your help. I will be out of the office some today, but I will check e-mail during the
day. Tom Rumer
Tom:
Use Variance petitions cannot be heard before a Hearing officer of the BZA; it will have to be
heard in front of the whole board.
the timeline for this and the other variances (setback and parking) will be:
Public notice by July 28 to make the August 22 BZA agenda
OR
public notice by September 1 to make the September 26 BZA agenda.
if you would like to meet the former, you will need to submit the applications to DOCS soon, to
that you can be issued docket numbers (for the public notice).
The official list of adjacent properties can be found at the Hamilton County Auditor's office in
downtown Noblesville.
Usually you have to submit your public notice to the IndyStart the Wednesday before the Friday
publishing date.
p.s. the ground sign will need a sign permit, also. I cannot find a record of it.
Sincerely,
Angie Conn
Planning Administrator
Division of Planning & Zoning
Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032 p317.571.2417 f317,571.2426
www,¢armel.in.gov
aconn@¢armel,in.gov
7/25/2005
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From: Carmel Clay Historical Society [mailto:cchistory@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:57 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: Re: for Tom Rumer
Angie:
Thanks for your message from yesterday. We will make a run for the August 22nd BZA
meeting. If we don't make it, we will have everything in place for the September agenda.
But some prelim, questions:
(1) Does the Indy Star publish the requisite public notice only on Fridays (assuming we
can get docket numbers also by then). And if so, if we get the notice to the Indy Star by
Wednes. of next week, does that count in your time table?
(2) If you leave the variance app. forms for me at the front desk of the DOCS office, I'll
pick them up later this afternoon or Monday morning.
(3) About the parking variance: when the new archival building is built we won't have
room for more than one parking space on that site, but when the parking lot was planned
across the Monon Trail from us, we were told that a few more spaces had been planned to
make up for the spaces we lost when the Second St. SW trailhead was constructed. (Mike
spoke earlier about getting a cut made in mid (our) property for an entry into the grounds
here. We are interested in following that up as well.) That may not change anything as far
as the variance needed, but it is background information in case that didn't make it into our
files there at DOCS.
(4) Am I correct in assuming that the notice to the adjoining property owners of our
building plans must also be delivered to their address by the 28th? If so, that can be done
also (I think).
Thanks for your help. I will be out of the office some today, but I will check e-mail
during the day. Tom Rumer
Tom:
Use Variance petitions cannot be heard before a Hearing officer of the BZA; it will have to
be heard in front of the whole board.
the timeline for this and the other variances (setback and parking) will be:
Public notice by July 28 to make the August 22 BZA agenda
OR
public notice by September 1 to make the September 26 BZA agenda.
if you would like to meet the former, you will need to submit the applications to DOCS
soon, to that you can be issued docket numbers (for the public notice).
The official list of adjacent properties can be found at the Hamilton County Auditor's office
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in downtown Noblesville.
Usually you have to submit your public notice to the IndyStart the Wednesday before the
Friday publishing date.
p.s. the ground sign will need a sign permit, also. I cannot find a record of it.
Sincerely,
Angie Conn
Planning Administrator
Division of Planning & Zoning
Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, TN 46032 p317.571.2417 f317.571.2426
www.¢armel.in.gov
a¢onn@carmel.in.gov
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