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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Sub 11-14-00 At this time,Ron Houck announced that the Greater Home Place Area Task Force will meet on October 10t in the Hensel Center, 10701 North College Avenue at 7:00 PM. CARMEL/CLAY PLAN COMMISSION SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE November 14,2000 2. Docket No. 108-00 PP; Long Branch Estates Petitioner requests approval to plat 150 lots on 119.6+-acres. The site is located on the northwest corner of West 116th Street and Shelborne Road. The site is zoned S-1/residence and is being developed as a Qualifying Subdivision under Chapter 7 of the Subdivision Control Ordinance(ROSO). The petitioner also seeks approval of the following Subdivision Waivers: 108-00a SW SCO 6.3.3 to forego a stub street connection to adjoining property 108-00b SW SCO 6.3.7 to plat a cul-de-sac greater than 600 feet in length 108-OOc SW SCO 7.7(D)(6)to clear more than 30%of young woodlands on site 108-OOd SW SCO 7.7(D)(8)to clear more than 15%of steep slopes on site Note: This item has been returned to the Subdivision Committee from the October 17, 2000, Plan Commission meeting. Filed by Richard J.Kelly of Paul I. Cripe. For Pulte Homes Tim Ochs, attorney with Ice,Miller,Donadio&Ryan,Indianapolis,appeared before the Committee representing the petitioner. Mr. Ochs reported that since the October Plan Commission meeting,the petitioner has met with staff. Mr. Ochs referred to page 3 of a draft prepared subsequent to that meeting regarding section 4. Scott Brewer,Urban Forester,has requested and the petitioner has made some minor changes involving the cutting or clearing of trees, earth-moving/grading. In paragraph two there is a deletion of the word"dying." By way of explanation,the petitioner said this project was previously passed back to the Plan Commission with a 7-0 vote. There have been discussions with staff following the Plan Commission hearing in October. Mr. Houck and Marilyn Anderson both expressed concern about the traffic study, and the inconsistency with county studies on 116th and 121'Streets. Mr.Houck read from a handout presented this evening regarding traffic. The committee feels there are deficiencies. The study does not include the intersection at Shelborne Road at 116th and 121St. The petitioner said he did not feel the impact of this subdivision will be that great, and acknowledged he did not look at a lot of scenarios. There was some discussion about exiting the subdivision on either 116th or 121"Streets heading toward either Michigan Road or Shelborne Road. Ms. Anderson acknowledged that perhaps a level C will be achieved once 116th and Shelbome Road is improved,but the question is when will that happen? Steve Fehribach said there are options,and several scenarios were analyzed to see what was the best design. Acceptable is Level of Service C in Carmel,however,the County is acceptable at Level of Service D. There are options,and they ended up dedicating enough ground for a roundabout, in case the City annexes this area,or so the county can improve the intersection. The petitioner is also willing to escrow funds for roadway improvements. Ms.Anderson wants something in writing addressing 121"Street. Mr.Houck said his understanding was that 116th and 121"Streets at Shelbome Road were to be addressed in the Traffic Analysis. Ron Houck suggested incorporating the findings of the county study,thus giving the committee more detail on the anticipated levels of service. There are 150 lots proposed, and there is concern about persons exiting the subdivision onto 121St Street to head toward Michigan Road. CARMEL/CLAY PLAN COMMISSION SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE November 14, 2000 Members in attendance: Norma Meighen; Dave Cremeans; Marilyn Anderson; Nick Kestner; John Sharpe; Wayne Haney; Kent Broach; and Ron Houck, Committee Chairperson. Laurence Lillig was present representing the Department of Community Services. Docket No. 68-00 PP Amend, John A. Phelps’ Addition, Lots 12 & 13 1. Currently Tabled Docket No. 108-00 PP; Long Branch Estates 2. Petitioner requests approval to plat 150 lots on 119.6+- acres. The site is located th on the northwest corner of West 116 Street and Shelborne Road. The site is zoned S-1/residence and is being developed as a Qualifying Subdivision under Chapter 7 of the Subdivision Control Ordinance (ROSO). The petitioner also seeks approval of the following Subdivision Waivers: 108-00a SW SCO 6.3.3 to forego a stub street connection to adjoining property 108-00b SW SCO 6.3.7 to plat a cul-de-sac greater than 600 feet in length 108-00c SW SCO 7.7(D)(6)to clear more than 30% of young woodlands on site 108-00d SW SCO 7.7(D)(8)to clear more than 15% of steep slopes on site Note: This item has been returned to the Subdivision Committee from the October 17, 2000, Plan Commission meeting. Filed by Richard J. Kelly of Paul I. Cripe. For Pulte Homes Tim Ochs, attorney with Ice, Miller, Donadio & Ryan, Indianapolis, appeared before the Committee representing the petitioner. Mr. Ochs reported that since the October Plan Commission meeting, the petitioner has met with staff. Mr. Ochs referred to page 3 of a draft prepared subsequent to that meeting regarding section 4. Scott Brewer, Urban Forester, has requested and the petitioner has made some minor changes involving the cutting or clearing of trees, earth-moving/grading. In paragraph two there is a deletion of the word “dying.” By way of explanation, the petitioner said this project was previously passed back to the Plan Commission with a 7-0 vote. There have been discussions with staff following the Plan Commission hearing in October. Mr. Houck and Marilyn Anderson both expressed concern about the traffic study, and the thst inconsistency with county studies on 116 and 121 Streets. Mr. Houck read from a handout presented this evening regarding traffic. The committee feels there are deficiencies.The study does not include the intersection at Shelborne Road s:\\PlanCommission\\Minutes\\SubdivisionCommitteeMinutes\\Subdivision2000nov 1 thst at 116 and 121. The petitioner said he did not feel the impact of this subdivision will be that great, and acknowledged he did not look at a lot of scenarios. There was some thst discussion about exiting the subdivision on either 116 or 121 Streets heading toward either Michigan Road or Shelborne Road. Ms. Anderson acknowledged that perhaps a th level C will be achieved once 116 and Shelborne Road is improved, but the question is when will that happen? Steve Fehribach said there are options, and several scenarios were analyzed to see what was the best design. Acceptable is Level of Service C in Carmel, however, the County is acceptable at Level of Service D. There are options, and they ended up dedicating enough ground for a roundabout, in case the City annexes this area, or so the county can improve the intersection. The petitioner is also willing to escrow funds for roadway improvements. st Ms. Anderson wants something in writing addressing 121 Street. Mr. Houck said his thst understanding was that 116 and 121 Streets at Shelborne Road were to be addressed in the Traffic Analysis. Ron Houck suggested incorporating the findings of the county study, thus giving the committee more detail on the anticipated levels of service. There are 150 lots proposed, and there is concern about persons exiting the subdivision st onto 121 Street to head toward Michigan Road. Mr. Houck summarized that the committee had no objections to the subdivision waivers at the last meeting, and in considering the primary plat, it came down to the traffic issue, still unresolved. The petitioner undertook to get the Traffic Analysis to the Commission members prior to the full meeting. Docket No. 108-00, PP, Long Branch John Sharpe moved to recommend approval of Estates . Following a second by Norma Meighen, the motion was approved 7-0. 3. Docket No. 109-00PP; Guilford Park Subdivision Petitioner seeks approval to plat 110 lots on 36.7 acres. The site is located th southeast of the intersection of East 116 Street and South Guilford Road. The site is zoned R-1/residence and is being developed as a Qualifying Subdivision under Chapter 7 of the Subdivision Control Ordinance (ROSO). Note: This item has been returned to the Subdivision Committee from the October 17, 2000, Plan Commission meeting. Filed by Paul G. Reis of the Reis Law Firm for Kosene & Kosene. Mr. Houck reviewed the outstanding items from the last meeting; namely, the covenants and restrictions and a review by City Forester. Mark Monroe, Land Use Planner with the Reis Law Firm spoke for the petitioner. He is accompanied by Tadd Miller of Kosene and Kosene and Gary Weaver, Land Planner. Since full Plan Commission review, the petitioner has made minor changes to the plans. The petitioner believes all pertinent issues have been addressed, and revisions have been s:\\PlanCommission\\Minutes\\SubdivisionCommitteeMinutes\\Subdivision2000nov 2