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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 12-19-01 Carmel/Clay Technical Advisory Committee Minutes December 19, 2001 9:00 a.m. Members present: Jon Dobosiewicz – Carmel DOCS John South –Ham. Co. Soil & Water Chuck Shupperd – Vectren Energy Scott Brewer – Carmel Urban Forester Gary Hoyt – Carmel Fire Department Steve Cash – Ham. Co. Surveyors Jeff Kendall – Carmel Bldg. Com. Mike McBride – Carmel Engineering Dick Hill – Carmel Engineering Bill Akers – Carmel Communications Steve Broermann – Ham. Co. Highway 140 First Street NW (Land Use Variance) The applicant seeks approval to convert an existing residence into a Beauty Salon. The site is located at 140 First Street NW. The site is zoned R-4. Filed by Richard Sanders. Richard Sanders owns the above-mentioned property which is zoned residential. He distributed plans of his proposed project and explained his request. The home is located on First Street at the Monon Greenway. Mr. Sanders is requesting a use variance for a beauty salon. Donna Resser, wants to use this building for her salon. She has an existing business with clientele. The house has just been renovated. There was a fire in the building. Due to the changing characteristics of the neighborhood, Mr. Sanders believes “use” as a salon would be appropriate. He said the neighbors support his request. Tom Ordway, Cinergy PSI, attended TAC for the first time. He will not comment on this project. Mr. Ordway’s area of concern is the affect landscaping might have on the overland lines. Chuck Shupperd can supply gas if needed. Scott Brewer suggested a meeting later to discuss buffering guidelines. Mr. Brewer is not sure if all of the guidelines will stand, but there needs to be some landscaping. Dick Hill and Mike McBride are seeing this request for the first time. Mr. Sanders is not certain if he will be required to pave the parking area. Mr. Hill stated there might be drainage issues and additional sewer and water fees. Dick Hill and Mike McBride will review this project with the City Engineer. Steve Cash stated the Follett Morrow Drain is in the area. He will work closely with the Engineer’s office and defer to them if there is a parking issue. Regarding draining, Mr. s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 1 Cash said the site sheets to the east and there is an inlet on the adjoining property. Paving the parking area will create more drainage. Jeff Kendall stated this project would require state review. A local permit will be issued by Carmel based on fulfillment of any requirement of any other entity. The petitioner may ask the Building Department for help with application to the state. Indiana requires a floor plan showing the location of the salon seats. The state will review and issue a state release. Bill Akers stated the property has an address. Gary Hoyt typically will request a Knox Box. He will send the petitioner a letter. ADA requirement calls for a ramp. Mr. Sanders indicated a ramp would be installed. There is a finished room on the second story, but the rest of the floor is not complete. Storage needed. Once that is decided, more details will be required on the plans. Storage would be a concern for the Fire Department. Jon Dobosiewicz understands Mr. Sanders is working with Laurence Lillig on the issues of development standards for the site. The sign dimensions and location is needed. Once a determination for parking is made, the Department will know if a variance is needed. Shapiro’s at City Center (Construction Plans) The site is located at approximately 920 South Range Line Road. The site is zoned C-1 (City Center). File by Christopher S. McComas of Roland Design, Inc. for Brian Shapiro. The project was described by Chris McComas. Mr. Shapiro proposes to construct an 11,000 square foot building with 9, 000 square feet on the first floor with a 2,000 square foot mezzanine on the southeast corner of the parcel. It will be situated as close to the street as possible to meet C-1 zoning standards and requirements of the Carmel Redevelopment Commission. The petitioner has had a preliminary meeting with the architectural review committee for the exterior. The City Engineer has agreed to help with erosion control and storm water retention issues. The petitioner’s civil engineer is working to mitigate issues regarding storm water. All utility connections will be underground. The transformer is on a pad located adjacent to the building. It will be enclosed within a utility yard once phase II and III buildings are constructed. The sewer connection is to the rear of the site. They propose to build a new city water main at the north edge of the site. Road improvements include widening the fire road. This is a one- way drive for the police and fire departments. Shapiro’s wants this to be an access lane for the restaurant. The petitioner has met with all parties prior to this meeting and believes issues are resolved. Tom Ordway stated his position with Cinergy deals with vegetation management issues. As utilities will be underground, he has no issues. But, the pad landscaping must be a s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 2 certain distance from the transformer. Mr. McComas will maintain clearance requirements. If the overhead is not resolved, Mr. Ordway will require a landscape plan. Mr. McComas asked about the power line on Range Line Road. Rick McClain will handle these issues. Their Redevelopment Commission will allow them to do site preparation for the building pad prior to obtaining an improvement permit. John South will review erosion control plan. He has spoken with Dick Hill. This is a simple site. He would like a few modifications and will work with Dick Hill. Mr. McComas stated some of these may affect the storm water management system. Mr. South will need more detail of construction sequence. Dick Hoover is the civil engineer for this project. The off-site and on-site work will be done by the same contractor. An exception might depend on how the storm water retention line is connected to some outlet pipe. Mr. Hoover said they cannot build that. Someone else will have to construct it. But there will be only one set of construction plans. Chuck Shupperd understands gas service will be requested for the site. He suggested another meeting with Chris McComas to discuss details. The current service needs to be retired. Mr. McComas agreed. A new business application needs to be completed for load sheet, size of meter, etc. The building demolition is being done under separate contract. The two existing telephone poles are the only utilities running through the site. The general contractor, Gillette Construction, will contact all utility companies. Scott Brewer faxed a letter to Roland Design last night. Landscape plans are needed for review. Chapter 20.e City Center Guidelines must be followed. Chris McComas stated the architectural review committee approved the landscape plans last week. Luci Snyder voiced concern about continuity of plans for future development. Mike McBride said Dick Hoover spoke with Kate Weese regarding underground detention on the site. He will defer drainage comments until they receive more plans. Sewer and water availability fees will be assessed. Board of Public Works approval is required. Mr. McBride needs to know the number of seats within the restaurant. He also wants to see additional detail on the proposed street widening. New streets, if dedicated, will require curb cuts. On the demolition plan, more detail is required especially in regard to the widening of the road to the Fire Department. Engineering needs saw cuts, locations, and pavement details. Mr. McComas understands they must match the pavement section. Dick Hoover suggested more conversation. Steve Cash stated this site falls within the watershed of the Hawkins Regulated Drain. The County will need an outlet permit for this project. The allowable discharge rate is .25 cfs per acre. This is for a 100-year storm and includes the additional impervious area. It might not be a big issue on the site. Permits can be down loaded on the County’s web site. Jeff Kendall will issue the building permit and help with any code related issues. He asked them to follow closely Carmel’s request for development of the site. Mr. Kendall invited the petitioner to call if help is needed. s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 3 Bill Akers understands Shapiro’s will occupy the entire Phase I building. Mr. McComas requested the address of 918 Range Line Road if possible. The entrances to the building will be on Range Line Road and from the parking lot to the back. Gary Hoyt and Chief Calahan were in attendance. Since the building will be sprinkled, Mr. Hoyt would like an exterior door to the riser room. A separate meeting was requested to determine where the Fire Department connection will be. Mr. McComas agreed to locate it wherever the Fire Department desires. A Knox Box will be included. Mr. Hoyt requested a fire hydrant near the dumpster area. Using the other surrounding hydrants will block equipment traffic. Mr. Shapiro is very concerned about public safety; they will cooperate fully with the Fire Department. There will be another construction entrance. The fire road will not be used for that. John Lester has not received plans. He needs to see how this relates to the Monon Greenway. He probably has no concerns. Ron Houck stated this project does not in any way relate to the Monon Greenway. Jon Dobosiewicz asked that landscape plans be submitted to Scott Brewer. On sheet 2, the dimension of island should be widened. Chris McComas said it is not going to be planted. It will contain a sidewalk to avoid walking on the driveway. The dumpster location will be near the three small buildings on the first sheet. The location must be on the plans. Ron Houck said there would be a mitigation structure in the area. CRC will do the construction. Jon Dobosiewicz wants this coordinated. The location of the signage on the building is needed. Mr. Dobosiewicz said Shapiro’s is entitled to one sign on Range Line Road. Kelli Hahn needs signage details, the lighting plan, and any other updates. The new plans must be submitted before the hearing on January 2, 2002 at 9:00 a.m. in the Caucus Rooms. Fire Chief Calahan needs to turn equipment off the westside of the building. Occasionally, they may exit on the emergency entrance. Preemption signals are needed to activate green lights as they near intersections. He is worried about the two signals that are close to each other. Luci Synder stated the City must work with CRC. She believes they are working it out with the Mayor. Activity must be synchronized just right. Dan Young Chevrolet (ADLS Amendment) th The site is located northeast of East 96 Street and Keystone Avenue. The site is zoned B-3/business and is located partially within the SR 431/Keystone Avenue Overlay Zone. Filed by Charles D. Frankenberger of Nelson & Frankenberger for Duke Realty Corporation. Charlie Frankenberger presented the case and introduced Darryl Phillips, Weihe Engineering, and Chuck Kotterman, Architura Architects. Special Use and ADLS s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 4 th approvals were obtained earlier this year for Dan Young Chevy at 96 Street and Keystone. The dealership is now named “Penske”. Two buildings will be slightly th modified. One is the building closest to 96 Street. The original building was demolished and essentially replaced. The other building is farther to the north of the site. th The petitioner has decided to slightly enlarge the building closest to 96 Street and not install the approved addition to the building closest to the Keystone Office Park, that is to the north. The architecture of the buildings and their revised design is essentially the same, but ADLS Amend and Special Use Amend were needed. The minor changes affect landscaping, lighting, and signage. Although changes do not raise TAC issues, the petitioner wanted to error on the side of being conservative. John Lester had no comments. He wanted a 10-foot path to the north, but understands this is not an issue now. John South has very little concern about this project. Any existing storm inlets should be protected prior to construction. A note needs to be on the plans for the contractor. Chuck Shupperd had no comments. Scott Brewer gave the petitioners a copy of his letter. Keith Baughman, Lawn Pride, Inc., also received the letter. Mr. Brewer offered to meet on site. Mr. Frankenberger believes the landscape plan is good. The yews should prove to be hardy, but need proper drainage. The new plans will change one of the comments in Mr. Brewer’s letter. Dick Hill stated Engineering’s original involvement was right of way issues and dedication of right of way. He does not think this change will affect plans. There is th nothing to “curb cut” on 96 Street. Jon Dobosiewicz asked for clarification of the issue th of construction of a 10-foot path on 96 Street. Mr. Frankenberger stated there is a big th ditch on 96 Street. Engineering issues that will prevent this. Jon Dobosiewicz wants to make certain the property owner has no obligation thru the special use amendment. Charlie Frankenberger will consider the matter. Mr. Dobosiewicz stated there should be a crosswalk for Keystone Avenue. John Lester did not pursue this because they could not get to Keystone unless the State Highway Department does something there. Charlie Frankenberger might come back with a request to replace the ditch with a pipe, cover it, and then perhaps install a path. Charlie stated Laurence Lillig is waiting for commitment that there is no liability to the City if the monument sign ever has to be moved. This might occur because of widening of the asphalt. Charlie Frankenberger said this is so stated in the consent to encroach. Jon Dobosiewicz will check into this. Dick Hill commented this is typical language in the consent to encroach. Steve Cash stated this does not affect any county drain. He had no other comments. Jeff Kendall questioned whether a building permit was issued for the main building. The State design release is okay, but the petitioner never got the permit. Jeff Kendall asked them to pick up their unneeded blueprints. s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 5 Bill Akers had no comments. Gary Hoyt inquired whether the reduction in the size of the building would affect if it is sprinkled. Mr. Kotterman will check and wondered how it will be classified. It will be used as a service shop. Mr. Hoyt thinks the building will be a “mixed occupancy” with some H’s and B’s. He will need to determine if area separations are needed. The other building will be used for sales and a show room. Mr. Hoyt will send a letter. Jon Dobosiewicz has the amended information for filing. He will issue a docket number during the first week of January. He has told Dawn Pattyn, because permits have been applied for, that copy alone is not an issue. They can change to Penske. Charlie Frankenberger stated the lighting would be the same. They have enclosed the canopy area. Jon Dobosiewicz suggested bringing existing and proposed west elevations of the building to the January Plan Commission meeting. It might be possible to get approval that evening. Mr. Frankenberger believes these changes fall within the purview of the original approval. This will be an ADLS amendment. A letter from Scott Brewer stating approval of landscaping is needed. Charlie Frankenberger wants this heard on January th 15. Parkwood Crossing East (College Hills PUD) th The site is located northwest of East 96 Street and North College Avenue. The site is zoned PUD/Planned Unit Development. Filed by Charles D. Frankenberger of Nelson & Frankenberger for Duke Realty Corporation. Charlie Frankenberger discussed the 20 acres on the northeast corner College Avenue and th 96 Street. The parcel is directly south of I-465 and west of the Five Seasons Sport Club. Earlier this year approval was obtained for development of the site for office use. That included a change in zoning, annexation, and plat vacation. Per the terms of the PUD ordinance, the petitioner is proceeding for ALDS approval on January 15, 2002. The final development plan has been submitted to Jon Dobosiewicz for review. Mr. Frankenberger offered to answer any questions TAC members had regarding this project. th John Lester stated the Ordinance called for a 10-foot asphalt path along 96 Street. This is not on the plans. Blair Carmosino said it was slated to be included with the TIF improvements. The eight-foot sidewalk/path will connected at the termination point of the Five Seasons, to the back of the retail area, and maybe to the corner. John Lester stated the current Ordinance calls for 10-foot wide path. Blair Carmosino agreed to that width. Mr. Lester would like a connection and upgrade of the sidewalk. Mr. Carmosino would like to replace the concrete path on Five Seasons if funds are available. There is a fitness center in Six Parkwood that is heavily used. Mr. Lester is pleased with this proposed improvement. Mr. Carmosino said Duke wants it also; it is dependent on the TIF. s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 6 John South has reviewed the plans and made comments to Greg Snelling, CSO. Mr. South has not thoroughly reviewed the revision, but has a few comments. The demolition has not really addressed sequence. Part of the erosion control needs to be installed prior to or with the demolition. Blair Carmosino agreed. The temporary sediment basin is a prime part of the plan. The basin must be staked. Mr. South needs elevations, temporary outlet pipe, etc. He is not sure what kind of inlet is needed to the west. The silt fence might be eliminated along the west line if the topsoil was installed early in the project. It might be easier and cheaper to provide some inlet protection on the adjacent property. Along the front, a topsoil berm might replace the silt fence. Mr. South added that the berms should be seeded and stabilized immediately after construction. Blair Carmosino stated Duke is the owner, but residents may remain in the houses until January 31, 2002. Duke has possession of four houses. They had hoped to start the demolition process in January. This does not look like a possibility now. Carmel Fire Department might want to conduct a practice burn. Duke would do the demolition plan, but they do not know what plan is to be followed. Notices have been posted on the doors of these homes that wells will be abandoned and underground storage tanks removed. In the first or second week of January, Duke will conduct another meeting with government agencies and utilities to facilitate the demolition process and inventory their activity. The City of Carmel has approved the vacation of the plat. Duke hopes to record it this week. John South does not have a problem with burning as long as large amounts of grass are maintained. But, sometimes a bull dozer is used. Blair Carmosino wants to maintain the road as long as possible. Greg Snelling said the temporary basin could be constructed soon. Chuck Shupperd stated it is possible to kill service per house or by the main. Four houses have had their service turned off. Greg Snelling stated no gas lines are marked along the street. Scot Brewer did not get a set of revised landscape plans but does not think there are too many changes. Blair Carmosino will get plans to him soon. They spoke previously about the reforestation plan. Tree preservation fencing should be installed before demolition begins. Dick Hill understands that vacation of plat will vacate Carrolton Avenue and Guilford thth Avenue. It will not eliminate the 96 Street right of way. It exempted that portion of 96 Street that was established with the plat originally. Additional right of way will be granted as a result of the project. There is one non-platted residence on the extreme east th end that goes out to the center of 96 Street. Dick Hill does not want to have that deleted. Mike McBride’s comments stem from his meeting with Greg Snelling. The City will have drainage comments once they receive the calcs. Details on the entrance th alignment with the south side of 96 Street are needed. Blair Carmosino said that information would be with future development plans. Steve Fehribach has been commissioned to provide the details. Mike McBride has not received the drainage details. CSO will have further details on the down stream. Board of Public Works approval is required for the curb cuts, if constructed as part of road project. The proposed right of way needs to be clearly labeled on the plans along with the path. s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 7 Steve Cash commented that the site has been annexed into the City. He inquired whether th the 96 Street right of way is still under the County Jurisdiction. Blair Carmosino th answered that the annexation boundary goes to the center line of 96 Street. He th understands that the annexation is to the City. However, there is a little void in 96 Street in front of the Village Pantry that is still County. He will check to see if they are th contiguous. Mr. Frankenberger said they annexed to the center line of 96 Street, only th for that segment of 96 Street that is directly south of their land. Blair Carmosino will check. Steve Cash stated no permits are needed. He would like to know whose culvert is in front of the Village Pantry. Mr. Case will defer the onsite to the City Engineer. Jeff Kendall stated, based on John South’s comments, the erosion control needs to be in place before demolition begins. There will be another meeting the first or second week of January; Jeff Kendall will be invited to it. Mr. Kendall wondered if it is too early to start applying for permits. The land is becoming one parcel. Possibly there will be one permit with multiple buildings. Blair Carmosino will do whatever is necessary but would prefer the most simple approach. He would like to begin the application process. Professional Service Industry will pull the demolition permits. Mr. Kendall said there are five entities that must coordinate activity. They are : Carmel, the County Soil and Water Department, Morse Hensley, Hamilton County Health Department, and Duke. Another meeting is needed. Bill Akers has assigned addresses and will write a letter. He wants to see the addresses displayed on each building. Because this project is five stories tall, Mr. Akers will assign suite numbers. He also wants the addresses on the front signs. He suggested the plans be labeled Parkwood Crossing East. Blair Carmosino does not know if this is possible. Alan Tucker believes the name must remain Parkwood East Crossing. Gary Hoyt did not write letter yet. The buildings will be sprinkled. A meeting is needed to determine where the hook ups will be located. Mr. Hoyt requested a Knox Box for each building. The number of fire hydrant locations might change. Indianapolis Water will have final say. Mr. Hoyt suggested a meeting. An outside entrance is needed to the riser rooms. Gary Hoyt wants to be included in this meeting. The state will issue a permit to do a burn. Jeff Kendall believes burning needs a demo permit. Mr. Carmosino wants to keep the sanitary and water mains near Guilford Avenue throughout the construction process. Jon Dobosiewicz talked at one time about access across the Lauth property to site. He is still concerned about safety. One more option of access for emergency purposes would be to install a paver system. He asked Blair Carmosino to contact Lauth regarding this need. They are adjacent to the Lauth parking lot. Blair Carmosino spoke of a cut through Alliance Day Care Center. Jon Dobosiewicz is very concerned about emergency access. On the drawing, the north bound lane of College appears to be closed. Blair Carmosino stated this is incorrect. The Department needs a document of Commitment th that no Certificates of Occupancy will be supplied until the improvements to 96 Street are completed. The final development plan drawings do not show those improvements. s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 8 Mr. Dobosiewicz wants an amended set. There should be some language about th sequencing. The 96 Street improvements must be done first. Charlie Frankenberger will check the size and height of the identification sign along I-465. rd 200 West 103 Street – Parking lot modifications rd The site is located at 200 West 103 Street – The site is zoned B-3 (Business). Filed by Rich Kelly of EHMT . Rich Kelly presented the plans and introduced Kurt Faulkner of Kite Construction, the rd developer. Plans consist of the renovation of an office building at 103 and Illinois Street. Lilly Industries previously owned and used the building. There is a need to increase the parking capacity due to the changing use within the building to medical offices. The expansion of the parking lot will increase to 260 cars from 94 cars. The existing infrastructure will continue to service the building. Also, the existing drainage system will serve the parking lot expansion. John South did not bring his comments. He asked Rich Kelly to contact him if he has questions. Chuck Shupperd had no comments. Scott Brewer did not receive landscape plans. They should show existing and proposed vegetation. A total of 42 trees will have to be moved or removed. That number should be maintained for no net loss. Mr. Brewer suggested the construction stay out of the green belt. If this is not possible, any trees that are impacted by construction should be replaced. Nearby residents are concerned about this change. Rich Kelly intends to stay out of the buffer and will relocate any trees affected. Kurt Faulkner has a landscape architect under contract. Mike McBride said his comments are limited. They did not receive detailed drainage calcs. There is some question of the ability of the detention pond to handle the additional flow of the increased parking area. Mr. McBride needs to see calcs, pipe flows for the 10 and 100-year floods for additional flow, and detail on the retention pond itself. Steve Cash’s office might have that information. The Engineering Department will require addition right of way on Illinois Street. The existing half right of way is not 60 feet. Carmel will require dedication and perhaps a ten-foot path on Illinois Street. The Department will have additional comments when the drainage calcs are received. Mr. Dobosiewicz responded that at a minimum the development must design with 60-foot half right of way. Mr. McBride said it appears to be a 40 to 45 half right of way. Jon Dobosiewicz stated zoning approval is not required, but Kite must meet standards with this improvement. There is a total of 11 feet from the existing right of way to the Illinois Street pavement. Rich Kelly commented that parking spaces would be 10.5 to 11.5 feet in size. The dimension off the centerline for parking must be 65 feet. There may be a loss of three spaces. Kite must design the setback of the proposed right of way. Jon Dobosiewicz will investigate their path question. s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 9 Steve Cash stated no permits are required from his office. This area has been annexed into the City of Carmel. He will defer his comments to the City Engineer’s office. Mr. Cash will attempt to get the old drainage information to Rich Kelly. The property was under County jurisdiction when the detention pond was constructed. Jeff Kendall understands Lilly has moved out of the building. Kite is purchasing the building and will lease it for a medical office/out patient surgery use. Plans for the interior modifications are under way now. Work will probably commence in March. An interior modification permit will be required. Bill Akers had no comments Gary Hoyt distributed a letter. He had no comments but needs a key to their existing Knox Box. Jon Dobosiewicz will follow up on the sidewalk issue. John Snelling will meet with him later this week to discuss the potential of an additional building on the site. At the time that might come through, the Department would address additional right of way dedication and significant landscape changes. Lilly received a variance to reduce the number of parking spaces. He will need a revised set of plans. The remainder of the process will be administrative. There is no permit for exclusive site work. Once all approvals are obtained, Community Services will issue a letter of compliance. Village of WestClay, Apartments, 182 units (Construction Plans) The site is located within the Village of West Clay. The site is zoned PUD/Planned Unite Development. Filed by Rich Kelly of EHMT for the Spanos Corporation. Rich Kelly presented the case. He introduced Jim Kourafas and Jay DeMoss of A.G. Spanos Corporation, Terry Hebor, Brenwick Development, Inc. and Keith Lash, The Schneider Corporation. The multi-family development project is on two identical 2.5 acres parcel located in the Village of WestClay. A total of 182 apartment units are proposed. Off-street parking will be provided behind buildings in addition to on-street parking, John South sent a comment letter. He needs an upgrade of construction sequence for the erosion control plan. It is productive to place stone on the drive. The construction plan needs this detail. Construction on all the buildings will start at the same time. Slabs will be in place four to six weeks after site work starts. Mr. South wants a temporary stabilization of the land around buildings. Too often crews tear up a site and do not worry about stabilization during construction. Jay DeMoss said, generally, their buildings are sequential. He made a commitment to keep the roads clean. The time period between site pads is about ten days. Foundation work will be four to six weeks for s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 10 all of the buildings. The framing takes about 90 days. Then, the outside work will start. Jim Kourafas stated there is not a great amount of site work. It is one city block. Chuck Shupperd understands gas service is not required. Scott Brewer faxed a comment letter. Basically, his comments deal with technical aspects of plant schedules, specie comments, and additional trees in the parking lot. He suggested a mix of shade trees with ornamentals. Rich Kelly inquired about the use of evergreens too. Mr. Brewer suggested planting spruces. They do better than pines. The developer wants the year-round appeal of evergreens. Scott Brewer suggested some soil amendments and special fertilization treatments. The street trees are not planted yet. Brenwick will supply the trees; Spanos will only install them. Steve Broermann has not finished his review. Earlier, they spoke of additional street parking. Rich Kelly said it has been eliminated. There are curb cuts on each end of the site. Those cuts are in the wrong spots for this development. They will have to also change some center islands. Steve Broermann wants the corners squared when they do the cuts. Steve Cash believes the site will have one owner. Spanos Corporation presently owns the project. It will be sold some time in the future. However, it will not be platted and split. It will be a one-owner property. They may become condos in the future. The lots will not be subdivided beyond what they are today. Jon Dobosiewicz identified the parcel as a single block. They must plat as a single block. Both blocks are recorded. They do exist as recorded tracts. An outlet permit will be recorded. If the project is split up as townhouses, Mr. Cash request storm sewers become part of the regulated drain. This is not a requirement at this time. Rich Kelly is making provisions for conversion to condos. Common areas are still owned by the association. Jeff Kendall understands a two-hour wall will be utilized. This project is considered multi-family. Common walls must be from foundation to roof. The units will be reviewed as multi family. Bill Akers has spoken to Rich Kelly about this project and has assigned 20 addresses for the 16 buildings. The units cannot be reached internally through a central hall. They will be addressed off the streets they face. The mail boxes will be in the mail centers, such as Building 5 and 16. The postal carrier must be able to locate the boxes easily. Mike McBride will defer the County. Gary Hoyt distributed his letter. He has met with Keith Lash and thinks all issues are resolved. There are no trees in the emergency access drives. Only pavers and grass are allowed in the emergency access area. Rich Kelly will use a three-inch chair back curb, not a roll curb. A knock down type of fence might be allowed. s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 11 Jon Dobosiewicz requested an inventory of on street parking. No additional zoning approvals are required. He also wants review letters from agencies before the project is released for permits. The meeting adjourned at 12:00. s:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac2001dec 12