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Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals
Hearing Officer
Monday, November 25, 2013 Meeting
5:15 p.m.
Caucus Rooms, Carmel City Hall
Present: James Hawkins, Hearing Officer
Connie Tingley, Recording Secretary
Staff Members: Alexia Donahue-Wold, Planning Administrator
Legal Counsel: John Molitor
Legal Counsel Report:
John Molitor
• Public Notice for Dockets Nos. 13110001-13110003 V,Walgreens Signage, stated Tuesday,
November 25, 2013 instead of Monday,November 25, 2013
Discussion:
• Paul Reis confirmed the Public Notice and cover letter to adjoining property owners stated
Tuesday, November 25
o One call confirming day and date
o No one objected to notice
• Hearing Officer cannot suspend the rules
o Could call Special meeting with ten days' notice
o Could not roll over to regular BZA meeting without notice
• Decision could be appealed five days after decision
• Alexia Donahue-Wold agreed to watch for any neighbors to appear for meeting on Tuesday,
November 26, 2013
Public Hearing:
1-3. (V)Walgreens Signage, Rangeline Crossing.
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval for signs at a new
Walgreens:
Docket No. 13110001 V ZO CH: 25.07.02-03 b)1. Number of Signs (3 requested,2
allowed)
Docket No. 13110002 V ZO CH: 25.07.02-03 b)1. Wall sign not facing street
frontage,north facade
Docket No. 13110003 V ZO CH: 25.07.02-03 c)4.a Wall sign height: 70% of spandrel
panel height,about 97% requested
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The site is located at 1430 S Range Line Road. The site is zoned B-3/Business within the Carmel
Drive—Range Line Road Overlay. Filed by Paul Reis of Krieg DeVault on behalf of KRG
Centre,LLC &Kite Realty Group.
Present for Petitioner:
Paul Reis, Krieg DeVault, and Joy Skidmore, Kite Project Manager
• Number of signs; requesting three, two allowed
o Walgreens sign on east façade facing Rangeline Road
o "W" above north canopy
o Walgreens sign on south façade facing 116th Street
• Wall sign not facing street frontage, north facade
o "W" on north façade does not face public street
• Very visible for southbound traffic on Rangeline Road
• Wall height signage for east and south façades in excess of 70% spandrel panel
o Normally spandrel area would be area above windows and below cornice element
o For adequate identification/visibility, sign has been moved to side of spandrel area
with increased height of letters
Questions from Public:
Jane Price:
• How does Walgreen sign size compare to CVS sign on Rangeline?
Rebuttal:
Joy Skidmore
o Did not measure CVS canopy sign; not a wall sign
Discussion:
Alexia Donahue-Wold:
• Did not know size of CVS letters
o Signs in place before new Sign Ordinance
o Signs calculated differently for two frontages
o Canopy sign counts as wall sign
Paul Reis:
• Walgreens sign is 4 feet 8 inches in height
o 83 square feet
Jim Hawkins:
• Sign in spandrel would be 3 feet in height
Public Hearing closed.
Department Report:
Alexia Donahue-Wold
• Petitioner has reduced signage from original proposal
• One extra sign will not face street frontage
o Minor in size
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o Limited to "W"
• Based on building design, not able to make sign fit within spandrel area
o Would not be as visible
Department recommended approval of all three variances.
Discussion:
• Second floor of building will be leased by Walgreens
o No future signage for another tenant
Action: Mr. Hawkins APPROVED Docket Nos. 13110001 V through 13110003 V,
Walgreens Signage, Rangeline Crossing, for number of signs (3 requested, 2 allowed); wall
sign not facing street frontage (north façade) and wall sign height(70% of spandrel panel height
allowed, about 97% requested).
4. (V)Hall Home Addition,Crooked Stick Estates Sec.4 Lot 65.
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval for a building
addition:
Docket No. 13110004 V ZO CH: 5.04.03.D: Min rear yard setback 20 ft, 15 ft
requested
The site is located at 1514 Prestwick Circle. The site is zoned S-1/Residential. Filed by Richard
and Tamara Hall, owners.
Present for Petitioner:
Tamara Hall, owner
• Requesting to go into building setback for 10 by 12 feet addition onto house
• Yard is large, but strange-shaped
• No neighbors will be able to see addition
Public Hearing closed.
Department Report:
Alexia Donahue-Wold
• Minimum rear yard setback is 20 feet
o Encroaching about five feet
• Twenty-five feet platted rear yard setback and drainage easement
o Have gained approval from Homeowners Association to encroach into platted
setback
o Have gained approval form Engineering Department and Board of Public Works
to encroach into drainage easement
• Addition on rear of home abuts golf course
o No negative affect on surrounding properties
Department recommended approval.
Discussion:
• One-story sunroom; no second story
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Action: Mr. Hawkins APPROVED Docket No. 13110004 V, Hall Home Addition, Crooked
Stick Estates Sec. 4,Lot 65,for minimum rear yard setback (20 feet required, 15 feet
requested).
5. (V) Dairy Queen - Michigan Road.
The applicant seeks the following variance approval for a drive-thru at a new Dairy Queen:
Docket No. 13100016 V ZO CH: 23C.11.G Drive-thru stacking location and Min
No. spaces
The site is located at 9800 Michigan Road. The site is zoned I-1/Industrial within the Michigan
Road Overlay. Filed by Brad Walker of H &H Restaurant Management.
Present for Petitioner:
Steve Granner, Bose McKinney &Evans and Brad Walker, H & H Restaurant Management
• Dairy Queen in northern portion of building
• Variance will allow stacking on side of building (
o Similar variance approved for Dunkin Donuts in larger building
• Will be one short on required number of stacking spaces; plenty for Dairy Queen
Public Hearing closed.
Department Report:
Alexia Donahue-Wold
• Michigan Road Overlay requires stacking for drive-thru to be at rear of building
o Reduces visibility of cars in drive-thru
o Due to site layout and size of building, cannot get all cars behind building
o Pick-up window in rear
o Do not anticipate one car short in stacking will have negative effect
o Existing landscaping and building to north will help block view of cars
Department recommended approval.
Discussion:
• Two ingress/egress go in and out?
o Approved with original Development Plan/ADLS
o One may only be right in/right out
Action: Mr. Hawkins APPROVED Docket No. 13100016 V,Dairy Queen,Michigan Road,
for drive-thru stacking location (not all spaces in rear of building) and minimum number of
spaces (one less than required).
6. (V) Camferdam Garage, 11011 Ditch Road.
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval for a new garage:
Docket No. 13100028 V ZO CH: 25.01.01.B.3.a.i Min front yd for a garage,25 ft
behind front of building,0 ft requested
The site is located at 11011 Ditch Road. The site is zoned S-1/Residential. Filed by Paul Owen
of Wedgewood Building Company, on behalf of the owners.
Present for Petitioner:
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Paul Owen, Wedgewood Building Company
• Detached garage approximately 20 feet from property line
o Will set back a few feet from front of home
• Approximately two or three feet
• Will be approximately 90 feet from main body of existing home
• No need to eliminate mature trees
Public Hearing closed.
Department Report:
Alexia Donahue-Wold
• Accessory structures need to be set back 25 feet behind front line of building to maintain
residential character of property
o Large site with home setback over 300 feet from street
o Architecture will tie in with home
o Meets all other zoning requirements
Department recommended approval.
Discussion:
• Second level is storage loft
o Unfinished with no plumbing
o Will not be used for guest quarters
o Will meet height requirements of accessory structure
Action: Mr. Hawkins APPROVED Docket No13100028 V, Camferdam Garage, 11011
Ditch Road, for minimum front yard for a garage (25 feet behind front of building required, zero
feet requested).
Adjournment
The Hearing Officer adjourned the meeting at 5:48 p.m..
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H: ing Officer—James Hawkins Secretary—Cc nie Yngley
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