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Memo from Wes Bucker re: meeting with Joann Green 5/22/90 City of Carmel Wesley G. Bucher DIRECTOR-DEPT.OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT May 22, 1990 MEMORANDUM TO: Rick Dave Terry FROM: WES RE: MEETING WITH JOANN GREEN Please plan to meet with Joann Green and myself on Wednesday at 12:30. A copy of the HNTB commets letter are attached. NOTE: Two things stand out: 1) not part of contract 2) Staff could correct easily. 1 CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL,INDIANA 46032 317/571-2400 FAX 317/844-3498 Ar_xuA t_.Ei.:UF'I ER 295 : 5-15-90. 1 :39 PM; elite(e-,_,,,J8163339011 + 6330505 ' MAY 15 '90 12:38 HNTB Kan 816-333-9011 P,I • 1985 COMP. PLAN UPDATE 1990 AMENDMENT HNTB COMMENTS ON DOCD COBS PAGE PGP COMMENT TOC Page numbers are not appropriate for first review drafts, these numbers will change as text is inserted and removed 2 5 Error from 1985 Update, not an HNTB error. Staff could correct easily 4 1 Why? It is a qualifier added by HNTB to clarify that investigations were not made into all areas of the Comp Plan as part of the 1990 Amendment as per priorities determined by steering committee at start of project 4 5 ptwrrError from scanning process. Staff could correct easily 4 6 AlkrError from scanning process. Staff could correct easily 5 1&2 7110440M0 This was not part of HNTB contract. Y Q.. C 6 1 This was not part of HNTB contract. 6 3 ? This was not part of HNTB contract. 9 2 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct easily 9 4 411411, Error from scanning process. Staff could correct easily. 9 4 ? This was not part of HNTB contract. 10 2 411tr widievalliaper not part of HNTB contract. 13 Tables Scanning error. HNTB was not contracted to reformat data tables unless new figures were derived based on contracted work for the 1990 Amendment 14 3,4,5 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct easily 14 5 #11i17 40010114004000141010not part of HNTB contract. xEKUX TELECOPIER 295 ; 5-15-90; 1 :40 PM; eee (ealuJ8163339011 + 6330505 ; 4 MAY 15 '90 12:38 HNTB KCCS 816-333-9011 P. 15 1 . 1990 Amendment land use distribution and density was consistent with 1985 Update 20 2 /. Error from scanning process. Staff could correct easily 21 2 401t1% Error from scanning process. Staff could correct easily 21 2 Doing a new Plate #1: Subdivision Activity was not part of HNTB Contract. HNTB work priorities established by steering committee to focus on an • amended land use plan and an amended thoroughfare plan. 28 "MDR" HNTB error, "S-2" should be under "LDR" classification. 29 1 Noted above 29 3 HNTB error, correction will be made 29 1-130 Thic list was obtained from DOCD Staff over one year ago in the data collection phase of contracted work. If staff feels more information should be included, then they should come forward with it. How about some assistance from Staff? 30 last "Market Demand" is a reference to normal real estate market forces 31 1-3 The committee discussed these areas of concern at 6/13/89 meeting - see minutes 31 last Why does this seem incomplete? 32 1 These ratios were first presented at 6/13/89 meeting and are based on HNTB observations on similar land use planning projects in Texas, Virginia, Missouri, and Wisconsin as well as Urban Land Institute project reports 32 4 HNTB error. Work effort included an evaluation of existing transportation system and text in 1985 Update should have been modified to reflect new information. 34 1 This was not (� part of HNTB contract. 35 1 i1L Error from scanning process. Staff could correct ��t easily XEROX TELECOPIER 295 ; 5-15-90: 1 :41 PM; eee mem 8163339011 4 6330505 ; * 4 MIRY 15 '90 12:29 HNTB KCC3 815-333-9011 R.4 36 item 1 Depends on who you consult. Opinion provided to Steering Committee by development community would indicate otherwise. 37 1 ` '+t) Refer to rounds of draft HNTB Scope of Services, +V specifically Task 8 from draft dated 2/28/89 as compared with 3/14/89 Task 7. 39 2&3 ,,yty HNTB error. Work effort included an evaluation of ����� " existing transportation system and text in 1985 Update should have been modified to reflect new information. 41 1i'ik Error from scanning process. Staff could correct easily 42 1 Me. A detailed review of utility systems was not part Cof HNTB contract. 43 2 4.40 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct easily 43 3 1� 1' This was N not part of HNTB contract. 45 lower No edits were made to utilities chapter as no major work was done, Staff could correct easily 46 3 Same comment as above 47 1 Projections for 1990 Land Use Plan used same assumptions from 1985 Update. Actual number of platted-unbuilt lots from county records with staff updates for 1989 was never accepted by steering committee 47 3 assistance from Staff? This was not part of HNTB contract. 49 1 ati4b Staff could correct easily. This was not part of HNTB contract. 49 2 MOE 411,0100400Werassistance from Staff? This was not part of HNTB contract. 49 4 Got Error from scanning process. Staff could correct easily. How about some assistance from Staff for the schools? This was not part of HNTB contract. 49 5 Ott 4014001644004001Passistance from Staff? This was not part of HNTB contract. 50 page /a How about some assistance from Staff? This was not -- - - '- --• �„ aws u r -.0..O I OJJJE7V 1 1 y 0:330505 ; a 5 .` MAY 15 '90 12:40 HNTB KCCS 916-333-9011 P.5 part of HNTB contract. 51 pageStaff? This was not latiliprOrritertoractiaagre. 1101114 52 page u Staff? This was not part of HNTB con ract. 53 &54 0 Staff? This was not part of HNTB contract. 55 - 61 � p Staff? This was not rt of HNTB contract. 61 3 � Staff? This was not part of HNTB contract. 62 1 Staff could correct easily. This was not part of HNTB contract. 62 3 k\ Staff could correct easily. This was not part of HNTB contract. 63 3 Staff could correct easily. 64 2 ,\ Staff could correct easily. This was not part of HNTB contract. 65 6 A Staff could correct easily. This was not part of HNTB contract. 66 1 1. Staff could correct easily. This was not part of HNTB contract. 66 4 tN Staff could correct easily. This was not part of HNTB contract. 67 2 \\ Staff could correct easily. This was not part of HNTB contract. 68 3 47410 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct easily b8-72 40JWM should check to see if counts for Rangeline, 116th, Main, Carmel, and 126th are included in text, if these were investigated as part of his efforts. 71 2 Na JWM should verify and correct text to reflect new findings. 73 2 ` "1' What is JWM's opinion on this statement? 76 2 Error from scanning process. Staff could correct 001 . easily MAY 15 '90 12:41 HNTB KCCS 816-323-9811 0 76 3 �� Error from scanning process. Staf�.f could correct easily 77 ? Could not read comment on faxed copy. 78 1 \XII JWM? 78 4 WO JWM please review and change as appropriate. g 79 1 \k JWM? 79 2 11 JWM? 80 2 \3 JWM? 81 3 * Discussion needed by Steering Committee. HNTB's V opinion is that is should be utilized for some public purpose in the future as stated in Amendment text. 82 3 , Needs to be checked by JWM 854 4 lt JWM should check and make appropriate change 88 2Od0 404100001161101111assistance from Staff? Staff could easily make the change. 88 3 ])\ Investigations of the CBD and the Original Downtown Plan was not part of HNTB contract. We support the idea of a special committee/study effort for this due to the unique nature and specific needs of this area. 94 4 040b This is HNTB' s recommendation and should be . discussed by the Steering Committee. This is HNTB' s ; recommendation to achieve what the steering committee has been talking about in terms of concerns about public spaces behind private lots. 107 1 Nt What would be the best way to qualify the term "overall"? 108 hilik0 .The text does read residential for both west and east of Spring Mill. As per consensus at the November Steering Committee meeting, densities are to be generally lower to the west and more moderate to the east. 108 Eas - 41 Agreed. The fourth bullet item from "Western Section Consensus Items" should be repeated under the "Eastern Section" . 108 Rationale This issue of an appropriate planning horizon was MAY 15 'S0 12:42 HNT3 <CS 815-332-9011 P.7 first discussed at the May and July Steering Committee meetings. ETTB understood that the committee wanted to plan for a time when the community had no more vacant land for development so that infrastructure and road rights-of-way could be sized appropriately now, to protect for future needs. 118 A. At 441Abig604114opeoassistance from Staff? In general, assumptions and description from the 1985 Update remain the same. If you compare the actual plans, they are virtually the same with the addition of item (i) - networks of open spaces and the elimination of the "Transition Zone" designation. Overall, the distribution of land uses and densities remain the same. (See graphs on summary poster comparing land use distribution between 1985 Plan and 1990 Plan) . Accordingly, information originally presented in Item 4; "Supportable Population Growth" remains valid. There have been no investigations of historic population growth and trends as part of the 1990 Amendment. 122 1&2 `� Actually, HNTB recommends deleting paragraph 1 as indicated by strike outs. What is wrong with suggested edits to paragraph 2? 123 3 Agreed. The "Land Use and Circulation Plan" refers to the exhibit where the two plans are combined. This is found on the Executive Summary Poster. In the past document, this combined plan was the "Official" plan and represents the legal instrument which is what is being referenced in this paragraph. 125 3 4,412 Apip HNTB will correct typographical error. 125 2 Implementation technique questions for S-i, S-2 are valid. Densities were agreed to at January Steering Committee. 125 5 Paragraph does refer to buffering between "LDR" and more intense residential such as "HDR" as well as commercial areas. At no time did the committee indicate that "LDR" should be buffered from Moderate Density Residential ("MDR") . Is this Staff's idea? Does the Committee support this? 126 2 Yes, by density definition. (Where there enough question marks after this comment?) 126 6 4J. HNTB will correct typographical error. 127 5 Perhaps "HDR" and "LDR" should be included. Perhaps language should be revised to read that commercial/ MAY 15 '90 12:43 HyTB KCCS 916-333-9011 R.9 • office areas are "buffered" from all, types of residential uses. 128 2 Is staff suggesting the use a blue asterisk to indicate combined facilities? 128 4 What is the correct reference? 134 5 HNTB was not under contract to amend the 1985 Housing Plan. Accordingly, no changes were made to text under Section C: Housing Plan, pages 134 through 136. 135 5 See comment above. 136-170 JWM should check these items. 171 Agree. This item needs to be discussed by committee.