4-18-22 CC Meeting Minutes1
COMMON COUNCIL
MEETING MINUTES
MONDAY, APRIL 18, 2022 – 6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS/CITY HALL/ONE CIVIC SQUARE
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER
Council President Kevin D. Rider; Council Members: Laura Campbell, Sue Finkam, Adam Aasen,
Anthony Green, Timothy Hannon, Miles Nelson, Jeff Worrell and Deputy Clerk Jacob Quinn were
present.
Councilor H. Bruce Kimball were not present.
Council President Rider called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
AGENDA APPROVAL
The agenda was approved unanimously.
INVOCATION
Pastor Matt Siewert, Northview Church, delivered the Invocation
Councilor Hannon led the Pledge of Allegiance.
RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS
Council President Rider led the swearing-in of new Carmel Police officers
- Officer Abishai Schoenbein - Officer Liam Taylor
- Officer John Heckman - Officer Lance Wesner
The City Council and Sewa International recognized Presidential Volunteer Service Award
Winners. Sewa International also presented on the mission and the accomplishments of the
organization.
RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
Allison Brown spoke in opposition to Z-676-22, Flora PUD, because the project will largely cut down the
trees in the area and replace them with townhomes in a neighborhood that is single family homes.
Dee Fox spoke in opposition to Z-676-22, Flora PUD, because the proposal is not close to compliant with
the zoning and comprehensive plan intent.
COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS
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Councilor Finkam encouraged residents to give feedback on Resolution CC-04-18-22-01, the
Comprehensive Plan.
CONSENT AGENDA
Councilor Finkam moved to approve the consent agenda. Councilor Nelson seconded. There was no
Council discussion. Council President Rider called for the vote. The motion was approved 8-0.
a. Approval of Minutes
1. March 21, 2022 Regular Meeting
2. March 31, 2022 Special Meeting
b. Claims
1. General Claims $3,678,628.57
2. Wire Transfers $3,109,422.04
ACTION ON MAYORAL VETOES
There were none.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Councilor Worrell reported that the Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee had not met.
Councilor Campbell reported that the Land Use and Special Studies Committee had discussed Z-676-22
and it is returning with a favorable recommendation.
OTHER REPORTS – (at the first meeting of the month specified below):
Henry Mestetsky, Executive Director of the Carmel Redevelopment Commission, gave the monthly
Redevelopment Commission report.
Henry Mestetsky reported that the Redevelopment Authority had not met.
Mark Dollase, Indiana Landmarks, gave the quarterly Carmel Historic Preservation Commission report.
OLD BUSINESS
Council President Rider announced the Eighth Reading of Ordinance Z-670-21; An Ordinance of the
Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending the WestClay Village Planned Unit
Development District Ordinance; Sponsor: Councilor Rider. Remains in the Land Use and Special Studies
Committee.
Council President Rider announced the Second Reading of Ordinance Z-676-22; An Ordinance of the
Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Establishing the Flora Planned Unit Development
District. Councilor Campbell reported that the item is returning from the Land Use and Special Studies
Committee with a positive 4-0 recommendation. Jon Dobosiewicz, Nelson and Frankenberger, answered
Council questions. Alexia Lopez, Department of Community Services, also answered Council questions.
Councilor Campbell moved to amend Ordinance Z-676-22 on page 17, line 5 by adding native in front of
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trees. Councilor Aasen seconded. There was no Council discussion. Council President Rider called for the
vote. The motion to amend was approved 8-0. Councilor Campbell moved to amend Ordinance Z-676-22
As Amended. Councilor Aasen seconded. There was no Council discussion. Council President Rider
called for the vote. Ordinance Z-676-22 As Amended was approved 5-3 (Nelson, Hannon and Green
opposed).
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Council President Rider announced Resolution CC-04-18-22-01: A Resolution of the Common Council
of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Adopting the Carmel Comprehensive Plan. Councilor Worrell moved to
introduce the item into business. Councilor Nelson seconded. Adrienne Keeling, Department of
Community Services, presented the item to Council. Council President Rider opened the public hearing at
7:13:45 p.m.
Ron Houck stated important safeguards have been omitted that serve to protect sensitive residential areas.
The current C-3 plan has language limiting the building heights on the East side of Illinois Street to thee
stories, but that language doesn’t exist in the new Comprehensive Plan. He proposed an additional
objective that states: protect single family neighborhoods from dissimilar adjacent uses with respect to
scale of building, building materials, lighting, noise and other incompatible impacts. He used the Zotec
building as an example because nothing prevents that type of building from being built along Illinois
Street. He also stated that nothing in the current plan addresses night and weekend lighting of buildings.
Allison Brown stated that they had been instructed to put their comments in the comprehensive plan
website. She also stated that increasing the density and cutting down trees through development will
increase the environmental footprint felt from Indianapolis by decreasing oxygen and increasing carbon
dioxide.
Dee Fox stated that a lot of residents spent a lot of time and effort at Plan Commission providing feedback
and it didn’t feel like there was much change. You can’t expect people to do that much feedback again for
Council. There is a lot of dissatisfaction in the 84 letters submitted to Plan Commission and some were
addressed, and some were not even discussed while many concerns remain. Once you lose the large single
lot residential areas to more intense development, you can never get that back. Most of the Plan is odds
with the zoning.
Gus Navarra stated that the Comprehensive Plan should ensure positive change with managed growth to
maintain the appeal of Carmel’s neighborhoods. Please be sure that Carmel residents in our existing
neighborhoods have fair representation in the Plan as developer plans are submitted in the spirit of
growth.
Cindy Babcock stated that what is still troubling about the plan is the concept of 6 story buildings that are
encroaching on single family, ranch homes.
Jill Meisenheimer stated that she appreciates the collection of information, but a lot of the feedback given
has been ignored. Single family homeowners have not really been valued in this document and
encourages more intense development. This plan does not provide significant buffers and transitions for
single family homes.
Judy Hagan stated that light pollution is a growing problem in Carmel and should be added as an
objective on page 21. On page 34, it should be clarified where along the White River the building heights
apply. On page 91, that change to 6 stories needs to be revisited. Under healthful living, the document
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recognizes the importance of parks, how do we plan for parks at the level we enjoy with the population
increase.
Todd Stein expressed concern with the Pure development and that it could be the start of 6 stories looking
over every neighborhood that goes West up Midtown. Residents in the area just don’t want their privacy
totally invaded.
Dave Gagliano asked Council to consider what we want to be moving forward? Do we want to be like
Indianapolis with lots od density or do we want to maintain the charm? We need a signal fom City
Council about what type of city we want to be.
Seeing no one else wished to address Council, Council President Rider closed the public hearing at
7:44:50 p.m. Council President Rider referred the item to the Land Use and Special Studies Committee.
Council President Rider announced the First Reading of Ordinance D-2620-22; An Ordinance of the
Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Vacating Right-of-Way Located 2nd Street SE (Supply
Street), East of 1st Avenue SE. Councilor Campbell moved to introduce the item into business. Councilor
Nelson seconded. Kathleen Boaz, Church Church Hittle & Antrim, presented the item to Council. Council
President Rider opened the public hearing at 7:48 p.m.
Seeing no one who wished to address Council, Council President Rider closed the public hearing at
7:48:15 p.m. Councilor Worrell moved to suspend the rules and act on this tonight. Councilor Aasen
seconded. There was no Council discussion. Council President Rider called for the vote. The motion was
approved 8-0. Councilor Worrell moved to approve Ordinance D-2620-22. Councilor Aasen seconded.
There was no Council discussion. Council President Rider called for the vote. Ordinance D-2620-22 was
approved 8-0.
NEW BUSINESS
Council President Rider announced Resolution CC-04-18-22-02: A Resolution of the Common Council
of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving a Transfer of Funds Within the ARP Coronavirus Local Fiscal
Recovery Fund (#176). Councilor Nelson moved to introduce the item into business. Councilor Green
seconded. Jon Oberlander, Corporation Counsel, presented the item to Council. Councilor Aasen moved
to approve Resolution CC-04-18-22-02. Councilor Green seconded. There was no Council discussion.
Council President Rider called for the vote. Resolution CC-04-18-22-02 was approved 8-0.
Council President Rider announced the First Reading of Ordinance D-2622-22; An Ordinance of the
Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing the Issuance of Economic Development
Tax Increment Revenue Bonds to Support the Redevelopment of a Former AT&T Site, and Authorizing
and Approving Other Actions in Respect. Councilor Worrell moved to introduce the item into business.
Councilor Nelson seconded. Henry Mestetsky introduced the 4 projects to Council and gave background
on developer backed bonds. Adam Seger, Pure Development, presented Ordinance D-2622-22 to Council.
Council President Rider referred the item to Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee.
Council President Rider announced the First Reading of Ordinance D-2623-22; An Ordinance of the
Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing the Issuance of Economic Development
Tax Increment Revenue Bonds to Support the ERS Old Meridian and Main Project, and Authorizing and
Approving Other Actions in Respect Thereto. Councilor Worrell moved to introduce the item into
business. Councilor Aasen seconded. Steve Hardin, Faegre Drinker, introduced the item to Council. Mike
Gorman, Edward Rose and Sons, presented the item to Council. Council President Rider referred the item
to Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee
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Council President Rider announced the First Reading of Ordinance D-2624-22; An Ordinance of the
Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing the Issuance of Economic Development
Tax Increment Revenue Bonds to Support the Concourse Project, and Authorizing and Approving Other
Actions in Respect Thereto. Councilor Worrell moved to introduce the item into business. Councilor
Nelson seconded. Bruce Cordingley, Pedcor Companies, presented the item to Council. Council President
Rider referred the item to Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee
Council President Rider announced the First Reading of Ordinance D-2625-22; An Ordinance of the
Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing the Issuance of Economic Development
Tax Increment Revenue Bonds to Support the Old Meridian Apartments Project, and Authorizing and
Approving Other Actions in Respect Thereto. Councilor Worrell moved to introduce the item into
business. Councilor Nelson seconded. Josh Allen, Cross Development, presented the item to Council.
Council President Rider referred the item to Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee
Council President Rider announced Resolution CC-04-18-22-03: A Resolution of the Common Council
of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving Certain Matters in Connection with the Old Town Economic
Development Area (Smokey & Monon Allocation Area). Councilor Worrell moved to introduce the item
into business. Councilor Finkam seconded. Henry Mestetsky presented the item to Council. Councilor
Worrell moved to approve Resolution CC-04-18-22-03. Councilor Aasen seconded. There was no
Council discussion. Council President Rider called for the vote. Resolution CC-04-18-22-03 was
approved 8-0.
Council President Rider announced Resolution CC-04-18-22-04: A Resolution of the Common Council
of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving Certain Matters in Connection with the Old Town Economic
Development Area (Smokey & Monon Phase II Allocation Area). Councilor Worrell moved to introduce
the item into business. Councilor Finkam seconded. Henry Mestetsky presented the item to Council.
Councilor Aasen moved to approve Resolution CC-04-18-22-04. Councilor Worrell seconded. There was
no Council discussion. Council President Rider called for the vote. Resolution CC-04-18-22-04 was
approved 8-0.
Council President Rider announced Resolution CC-04-18-22-05: A Resolution of the Common Council
of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving Certain Matters in Connection with the City Center
Redevelopment Area (Studio M Allocation Area); Councilor Worrell moved to introduce the item into
business. Councilor Nelson seconded. Henry Mestetsky presented the item to Council. Councilor Aasen
moved to approve Resolution CC-04-18-22-05. Councilor Worrell seconded. There was no Council
discussion. Council President Rider called for the vote. Resolution CC-04-18-22-05 was approved 8-0.
Council President Rider announced Resolution CC-04-18-22-06: A Resolution of the Common Council
of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving Certain Matters in Connection with the City Center
Redevelopment Area (Firehouse East Allocation Area). Councilor Worrell moved to introduce the item
into business. Councilor Nelson seconded. Henry Mestetsky presented the item to Council. Councilor
Aasen moved to approve Resolution CC-04-18-22-06. Councilor Nelson seconded. There was no Council
discussion. Council President Rider called for the vote. Resolution CC-04-18-22-06 was approved 8-0.
Council President Rider announced Resolution CC-04-18-22-07: A Resolution of the Common Council
of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving Certain Matters in Connection with the Old Meridian
Economic Development Area (Old Meridian Apartments Allocation Area). Councilor Worrell moved to
introduce the item into business. Councilor Nelson seconded. Council President Rider referred the item to
Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee
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Council President Rider announced First Reading of Ordinance D-2626-22; An Ordinance of the
Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 8, Article 3, Sections 8-1, 8-18, 8-
19, 8-20, 8-21, 8-22, 8-23, 8-24, 8-26, and 8-27, and Chapter 8, Article 5, Sections 8-45, 8-47, and 8-48 of
the Carmel City Code. Councilor Worrell moved to introduce the item into business. Councilor Nelson
seconded. Councilor Worrell introduced the item to Council. Benjamin Legge, City Attorney, presented
the item to Council. Councilor Worrell moved to suspend the rules and act on this tonight. Councilor
Aasen seconded. There was no Council discussion. Council President Rider called for the vote. The
motion was approved 8-0. Councilor Worrell moved to approve Ordinance D-2626-22. Councilor Aasen
seconded. There was no Council discussion. Council President Rider called for the vote. Ordinance D-
2626-22 was approved 8-0.
AGENDA ADD-ON ITEMS
OTHER BUSINESS
City Council Appointments
Carmel Audit Committee (Term Expires 1/1/24, two-year term); One appointment. No appointment was
made
Carmel Cable and Telecommunications Commission (Term expires 3/31/24, two-year term); One
appointment. Councilor Finkam moved to re-appoint Shannon Minnaar to the Commission. Councilor
Green seconded. Councilor Campbell moved to close nominations. Councilor Green seconded. Shannon
Minnaar was re-appointed unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
Council President Rider adjourned the meeting at 8:53 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Sue Wolfgang, Clerk
Approved,
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Kevin Rider, Council President
ATTEST:
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Sue Wolfgang, Clerk
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